[vundy33]

The reason I voted for obama in 2008 and the main reason I'm
Going to vote for him in 2012 is Medicare this is there plan for*
Medicare if you are 55 and older your Medicare will not change
If you are 55 and younger it will be changed why not change it for*
Everybody because the 55 and older group usually vote repbulican
But if you are 55 and younger this is what they WILL DO when you
Become eligible for Medicare they are going to give you a COUPON
Then you must go out and find some insurance company who will
Sell it to you GOOD LUCK

Another reason the tax code is not fair
Me and my wife are in the 28% fedreral tax bracket
While Mitt Romney made 25 million and paid 14% federal *tax rate
These tax cuts don't create jobs

Maybe we could respond to your posts more often if you would make the damn things readable man...

[vector]

You would probably fall in to this group


This kind of ignorance is why we have the government that we have.
Quote:
How Dumb Are We?

NEWSWEEK gave 1,000 Americans the U.S. Citizenship Test--38 percent failed. The country's future is imperiled by our ignorance.

They’re the sort of scores that drive high-school history teachers to drink. When NEWSWEEK recently asked 1,000 U.S. citizens to take America’s official citizenship test, 29 percent couldn’t name the vice president. Seventy-three percent couldn’t correctly say why we fought the Cold War. Forty-four percent were unable to define the Bill of Rights. And 6 percent couldn’t even circle Independence Day on a calendar. rest of the story

[vundy33]

Seriously? After writing a paragraph like the one I quoted, you're going to call someone else dumb? Hahaha...

[vector]

To vundy33 what part of it you don't understand

[vundy33]

Hmm...ok then. Dur dur dur. Let me fix that for you. "What part of it do you not/don't you understand?" There ya go, derp.

Gotta quote this one more time for the lols...

The reason I voted for obama in 2008 and the main reason I'm
Going to vote for him in 2012 is Medicare this is there plan for*
Medicare if you are 55 and older your Medicare will not change
If you are 55 and younger it will be changed why not change it for*
Everybody because the 55 and older group usually vote repbulican
But if you are 55 and younger this is what they WILL DO when you
Become eligible for Medicare they are going to give you a COUPON
Then you must go out and find some insurance company who will
Sell it to you GOOD LUCK

[vector]

Well what part of it you do not understand DA

[vundy33]

Dumbass?? I resent comment that do I!

[vundy33]

And LOL! You still can't get the sentence right! What the hell???

Perfect example of America's education level right here folks...

[vector]

What part don't you understand

[vundy33]

There ya go..I'm proud of you, Vector.

[WideRight05]

And LOL! You still can't get the sentence right! What the hell???

Perfect example of America's education level right here folks...

So sad...

But yet, so true.

[TheRealVille]

What part don't you understand

Vector, no insult intended, but if you can't put a coherent sentence together, you aren't helping the liberals here. Really, all you are doing is giving this crowd more fodder.

[vundy33]

^^Shhhhhh!!!

Haha

[RunItUpTheGut]

Its okay to vote for Obama becuase hes black.
Its not okay to not vote for him because hes black.
Kind of a double edge sword aint it?

And before Realville calls me a nazi racist again, no i didnt vote for him the first time, even before i knew he was a retard, so not voting for him this time doesnt mean i am.

[Hoot Gibson]

Its okay to vote for Obama becuase hes black.
Its not okay to not vote for him because hes black.
Kind of a double edge sword aint it?

And before Realville calls me a nazi racist again, no i didnt vote for him the first time, even before i knew he was a retard, so not voting for him this time doesnt mean i am.

Even if you had voted for Obama, if you dare to criticize his policies, you must have been a racist who just voted for him out of your white guilt over slavery in 2008. Don't blame RV, the race card is about all that is left for them.

[LWC]

^Don't underestimate its power though.

[Hoot Gibson]

^Don't underestimate its power though.

As with the boy who cried wolf one too many times, bogus cries of racism from the far left are rapidly losing their effectiveness.

[LWC]

Sadly, we'll see what happens.

In October the gas prices will come down, a few more soldiers will come home, and his numbers will rise.

I honestly believe the Mitt Romney has no chance unless he can convince poor-average Joe that he identifies and cares about them. Right now, to me, he comes off as another rich politician.

For the record, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA, but I will not enjoy or take pride in voting for Mitt Romney.

[Hoot Gibson]

Sadly, we'll see what happens.

In October the gas prices will come down, a few more soldiers will come home, and his numbers will rise.

I honestly believe the Mitt Romney has no chance unless he can convince poor-average Joe that he identifies and cares about them. Right now, to me, he comes off as another rich politician.

For the record, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA, but I will not enjoy or take pride in voting for Mitt Romney.

LWC, have you ever read or listened much to Milton Friedman, the late great economist? Or Thomas Sowell? I strongly encourage you to spend some time considering their arguments against social welfare spending by the federal government. I think that if you listen to those two men with an open mind (which you seem to have), you might reconsider your position as a fiscal liberal.

There really is not much of a case to make for the social safety hammock that has been built in in this country. These programs have destroyed millions of poor black (and poor white, yellow, and red) families, which the late liberal Senator from New York, Patrick Daniel Moynihan, warned us would happen decades ago.

If you are interested, I could post a series of Youtube links to some classic debates involving Drs. Friedman and Sowell. If you are not familiar with Dr. Sowell, he grew up poor in Harlem, attended a segregated school, and eventually became one of the most respected fiscal and social conservatives in the country. Unfortunately, although Sowell is still very active, he is in his early 80s and rarely makes media appearances. I was introduced to him when he occasionally guest hosted the Rush Limbaugh show back in the 90s.

[TheRealThing]

When I voted in 2008 I was in the phase of switching from liberal to conservative. I did not vote for obama, but I know a lot of the people I went to school with at the time did. He pulled a lot of people in with his enthusiasm and his "change" gimmick. A lot of the people I know did not have a clue what that "change" was. They just knew his slogan and took to his enthusiasm. Most probably thought "change" because they were unhappy with Bush and the change would be getting somebody younger and more energetic in there. They didn't know much about what he wanted to change or what he stood for. I don't know if that's why people voted for him in general, but that would have to be my guess, other than it being because of his race.

I ended up voting McCain that year. I saw through everything obama was doing, and quite frankly I knew he would have a long, rough presidency by making the promises he did. A lot of my professors at the time were pushing students at school to vote for obama. Given that I was one of the few college students that was making the switch from liberal to conservative, they tried everything they could to persuade me to vote for him, one of who tried to threaten to fail me in a class (And take note, I have not made below a B in my life. College GPA was 3.7 while working two jobs). I know that black people were all for him because he was black, but I wonder what the percentage of college students were that voted for him, because I bet it was pretty high. And anybody who thinks McCain would have been "another Bush" needs to go back and look at his voting record on the issues. Would have been a lot different from Bush. I was not a McCain fan, but he came across to me as the lesser of the two evils.

Every politician makes promises and doesn't keep them. But when obama talks about turning around this big mess in such a short period of time...there's just no way of doing that, not even Chuck Norris could do that. And if something isn't done soon, this hole will become so deep there will be no way of getting out. I remember growing up watching the first Bush, Clinton, and the second Bush, and I have never seen a president try to make so many excuses or blame his failures on his predecessor so much. He has had three years. I wouldn't expect anyone to turn this around in such a short time, but at least right now there should be some positive signs about the coming years. Unfortunately, it's only looking worse.

WideRight, your're really starting to earn my respect. I'd like to thank you for verifying one of my pet peeves. I have argued for years that the public schools of our nation, along with our colleges and universities, are turning out liberals like factories. The liberal has learned the lessons of communism well and recognized they have a window of opportunity ranging somewhere between 12 and 18 years with which to indoctinate the youth of our nation. That window, of course, is the time during which our young are educated. A captive audience for up to 18 years. It isn't rocket science and yet, the concept, though simple, delivers profund results. I'm not surprised you were threatened by a liberal prof for not changing you're political views. That is the true face of liberalism.

You are one who started thinking for yourself early, and I would like to congratulate you and welcome you to lucid land. Turning away from the drumbeat of the liberal propaganda message makes you one that got away.

Now, with regard to your "deep hole" concerns. If one reads the newspaper he will see among the legal notices a list of those who have gone bankrupt. There comes a point when living outside of ones's means creates a total debt consisting of things like credit, interest and living expenses which make it financially impossible to repay one's debts. That time comes when the total of our spending exceeds the total of our income. We have to pay the car payment and the house payment, the utility bills and the health insurance but, we absolutely have to eat too. Normally people stretch their financial envelope to it's thinnest at that point as they turn to house re-fi's and small loans for an influx of cash to tide them over. But, alas, at some point, the re-fi's and small loans are no longer available and, with no where else to turn, one is forced to admit he owes far more than he could ever hope to repay. Neccessitating a legal default known as bankruptcy. Anybody that tells you that we as a nation can get by with this type of behavior, any more than an individual can, is blowing the mother of all smoke clouds up your pants. At some point China et-al will back up, and America will default. And, although the powers that be claim we would sort just reorganize our national financial structure and our country would then be able to soldier on, all pesonal wealth would completely disappear. What would happen to older folks with balances due of their homes is anybody's guess. Personally, owing to the attitude of the liberal of our day, if they are pushing for the acceptance of euthanasia, I would think the spector of the elderly walking the streets might be acceptable collateral damage.

To throw gasoline on the fire, the liberal lawmakers of our land insist on expanding and extending entitlements to more and more people. Even to the point of raiding our defense budget so that we may distribute those funds to the so called needy of this land. While the able bodied non working folks get free food, health care, housing, cell phones, birth control and abortion services etc. The elderly of this land, on whose backs were burdened the resposibiltiy of building and financing this countrie's infrastructure, and, fighting and winning the last great war. Have been targeted as a drain on the American economy because they are drawing the life long promised social security and medicare. In other words, they financed and built the America we all know, defended it in time of war, and, in return for their sacrifices, our federal government promised them they'd be cared for when they retired. Payment for a job well done. To me it is nothing short of a national shame for politicians to label these great Americans as leeches while, extending a life of leisure to the physically verile.

[TheRealThing]

Sadly, we'll see what happens.

In October the gas prices will come down, a few more soldiers will come home, and his numbers will rise.

I honestly believe the Mitt Romney has no chance unless he can convince poor-average Joe that he identifies and cares about them. Right now, to me, he comes off as another rich politician.

For the record, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA, but I will not enjoy or take pride in voting for Mitt Romney.

I would think a pastor would be able to vote for any candidate who is openly anti-abortion with clear conscience.

[Truth]

When the republicans get out of the business of denying equals rights socially to every American as far as their lifestyle goes, they will gain a ton of voters back. Get out of the religious bed, and keep government separate, and they will get tons more votes. Until then, they will have to deal with Obama types.

I'll have to agree that the above post illustrates well the difference between those who believe in traditional Judeo-Christian tenets and those who follow a somewhat "different" approach. Your boy, Barry, definitely falls into the latter group with you.

[TheRealVille]

I would think a pastor would be able to vote for any candidate who is openly anti-abortion with clear conscience.

One day he's pro-choice, one day he's pro-life. Today he might say he is, what about tomorrow? The pro-lifers don't seem to trust him.

As a "Pro-family" Republican Candidate: by his undeniable record fully documented below, Mitt Romney:
- created RomneyCare which is terribly similar to ObamaCare but even worse for it openly funds abortion
- put Planned Parenthood on the so-called "independent" board he created that offers $50 co-pay abortions
- thereby instituted tax-funded abortion on demand two years after his orchestrated "pro-life" conversion
- as late as summer 2011 continues to defend aborting tens of thousands of kids (denying their God-given right to life)
- supported destructive embryonic research after his false 2004 pro-life conversion
- put a pro-abortion Democratic judge on the bench after Romney had claimed a pro-life conversion
- fabricates a claim that a court ordered him to institute same-sex marriage, a travesty he committed did on his own
- single-handedly instituted same-sex marriage and later fabricated a claim that a court ordered him to do so
- bragged that he would continue to defend abortion "rights" after he claimed a pro-life conversion
- denies responsibility for the 10-member board that funds abortion even though his executive branch filled 7 seats
- pro-choice in '94; pro-life in '01; choice '02; pro-life '04; choice '05; life in '06; then funded abortion in '06
Pro-life Profiles predicted with the publication of this profile that even though Romney enjoyed support in 2008 from many pro-family groups, hopefully that with his recent and aggressive pro-abortion record now fully documented, he will not regain their endorsements. For if God's people lead, the leaders will follow.
Change of Heart? Preparing to begin his bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2005, Mitt Romney orchestrated a demonstrably false 2004 pro-life conversion. Romney must have expected that leading conservative media outlets, groups, authors, and talk show hosts (like Sean Hannity and Hugh Hewitt) would ignore, deny, or even defend his subsequent pro-abortion efforts that prove his "conversion" is a political deceive to steal pro-life votes. So putting Planned Parenthood on the state board that he created which authorized even late-term tax-funded abortion on demand, a crime against humanity far beyond anything the Clintons or Barack Obama have been able to accomplish, is brushed aside by untrustworthy "pro-life" conservative leaders.
Authorizing Tax-Funded Abortion: On April 12, 2006 Romney signed Massachusetts' government health care plan that from the start has provided taxpayer funds even for what are called "elective" abortions, killing unborn children without even the facade of the typical though invalid medical excuses common in tax-funded abortion laws. Romney's government-run health care plan5 predated Barack Obama's health care reform and according to the government of Massachusetts, "All Commonwealth Care health plans include… abortion."
Tax-Payers Forced to Fund Abortion: Unlike the countless "liberals" and moderates who are "pro-choice" but oppose tax-funded abortion, "RomneyCare" goes beyond being merely "pro-choice" and is radically pro-abortion by overtly paying abortionists to perform any and all types of abortions with tax dollars.

http://prolifeprofiles.com/mitt-romney-abortion

[TheRealVille]

I could vote for Romney with a clear conscience though. Why, because he's a democrat. Everything he does, speaks democrat. I don't think he will try to hurt the unions.

[TheRealVille]

Its okay to vote for Obama becuase hes black.
Its not okay to not vote for him because hes black.
Kind of a double edge sword aint it?

And before Realville calls me a nazi racist again, no i didnt vote for him the first time, even before i knew he was a retard, so not voting for him this time doesnt mean i am.

I have never called anybody a nazi. Are you going for "effect" here?

[TheRealVille]

Picking which republican to vote for in this election, is like "wondering which STD you would rather have today".

[Truth]

Picking which republican to vote for in this election, is like "wondering which STD you would rather have today".

True. But literally anything is preferable to Barry.

[SKINNYPIG]

I firmly believe a line has been drawn in the sand in this country. A line with socialism and a bigger more intrusive government on one side...On the other side, a smaller government that promotes liberty, capitalism and free markets.

I will no longer place blame of our national debt, raising taxes, wasteful earmarks, federal government mandates, attacks upon the constitution, frivolous spending or anything else that's a detriment to this republic on the media, Obama, Bush, democrats, republicans or politicians of any sort.

This country has stood this long on the will of "We the People." If "we" continue to elect the likes of the fools we have in office now, we are doomed as a free society. It will be us that is to blame.

"We" are the fools that keep electing the fools. Divided we shall surely fall. I am 51, and I can't recall us being so divided across the board. We are divided by that line in the sand. Which way will we go? We find out in 2012.

We simply cannot continue on the path we are on. Let's start weeding them out. Sending Obama and any other politician you can think of the hell out of Washington in the very next elections will be a good start. Give someone else a shot.

We all want term limits don't we? They are built in folks. They can only serve as long as we want them to.

[TidesHoss32]

Picking which republican to vote for in this election, is like "wondering which STD you would rather have today".

LOL!!! :Clap:

[vundy33]

I have argued for years that the public schools of our nation, along with our colleges and universities, are turning out liberals like factories.

100% correct on that for sure man..