[eratia]

So what you are saying is Nate should say I'm sorry I scheduled the teams I have scheduled and should give back the wins? You are crazy man, winning breeds success, okay let's play really tough competition every single game and go 3-7 and 4-6 but that is better for us because it will help us in the playoffs? Don't think so buddy, also the score of LCA Fairview in the regional was 23-12 and that was on a late TD from LCA was a heck of game. The main difference between Raceland and other schools is they give NO ONE credit for growing their program. Fairview is now doing things right because of a good administration, good coaches, and good kids that are working hard. Like I have said before I know Nate and he tried to schedule a couple of good teams like Russell and Lawrence but it didn't work out so they play who he can get. Not many people wanna play a good solid single A team and that is what he ran into from what I was told. While I agree with you on the facts, how is it their fault those teams aren't very good. I'm pretty much done on this topic because people are going to say what they wanna say, but it's a dead horse. HAve a good day sir

I hope I said this early on, I'm not looking to argue. I'm only answering the question in my opinion that started the thread. I know Nate as well, and don't think bad of him at all. They're doing a great job in selling the Fairview program and bringing new kids into the district that might otherwise never been there. It's my sincere hope that all the area schools will be powerhouses!

Please don't take offense, I just think the next step for Fairview is to find out where they are. As someone who kinda understands the mindset of the football player, if you aren't playing a team because of what you're afraid will happen, your kids will know that and all the hype in the world won't convince them otherwise. That's why if I were the coach, Raceland and Fairview would play Beechwood, and Lawrence Co, Boyd Co, Greenup Co, and Ashland would all play Bell Co., Russell would play the more dominant teams in their class and so forth, as a measuring stick. It makes you work harder to know you aren't the best yet until you beat them, and when you do your self esteem really grows. That goes back to what I said before, it's important to build a program, not a profile.

I hope nobody thinks I have anything bad to say about any school. I think this will be an excellent year for football across the region. I love spirited debate, too. Nothing vicious, but spirited, so if I come across as insulting or rude, tell me, I'll apologize. I am keeping my commentary in the spirit of debate and not poor sportsmanship.

[russellpride]

I hope I said this early on, I'm not looking to argue. I'm only answering the question in my opinion that started the thread. I know Nate as well, and don't think bad of him at all. They're doing a great job in selling the Fairview program and bringing new kids into the district that might otherwise never been there. It's my sincere hope that all the area schools will be powerhouses!

Please don't take offense, I just think the next step for Fairview is to find out where they are. As someone who kinda understands the mindset of the football player, if you aren't playing a team because of what you're afraid will happen, your kids will know that and all the hype in the world won't convince them otherwise. That's why if I were the coach, Raceland and Fairview would play Beechwood, and Lawrence Co, Boyd Co, Greenup Co, and Ashland would all play Bell Co., Russell would play the more dominant teams in their class and so forth, as a measuring stick. It makes you work harder to know you aren't the best yet until you beat them, and when you do your self esteem really grows. That goes back to what I said before, it's important to build a program, not a profile.

I hope nobody thinks I have anything bad to say about any school. I think this will be an excellent year for football across the region. I love spirited debate, too. Nothing vicious, but spirited, so if I come across as insulting or rude, tell me, I'll apologize. I am keeping my commentary in the spirit of debate and not poor sportsmanship.

All valid points and I understand but building a program instead of profile I disagree with you about that. The more successful your program is more kids want to be a part of it. The number one goal that coaches fight nowadays is numbers. Kids don't wanna work that hard as it is required for football especially. Lots of weightlifting, hot practices, etc. If your program plays top of the line every single game and loses all the time then your not building anything. I can see your point of playing really good teams sometimes but not every game. You want good competitive games to get you ready for district play. In my opinion Fairview is building a program not a profile, not their fault some of those bigger schools fell on hard times. And as I stated before not many teams will play a good single A team. Not trying to argue with you just saying that people don't give credit where credit is due. That is frustrating to people and to people that are trying to build a program. Thanks for insight though

[peterpan]

Why would such a die hard Fairview supporter, have the name "RussellPride"?

When Fairview is getting so many new kids each year, it's not difficult to win and to beat up on some of the bigger schools. Yes, Fairview is a small school, but not every school has the luxury of receiving so many transfers that Fairview has received over the past several years. It's easy to win games when you can restock your rosters each year with new players.

Question: How many starters on this year's Regional Final team were 1st year players? I'd say several.

On another note, Yes, Fairview has won some road playoff games and had some success in the playoffs recently, but a lot of that has been attributed to the fact that they haven't had to go play Beechwood, Bellevue, or Newport Central Catholic in the 1st two rounds like years past. The mountain division that your district is paired with now is a much easier road in the playoffs than going to Northern Kentucky every year. So, yes, one would expect you to have a little more success in the playoffs. Williamsburg, Campbellsville, and Lynn Camp are all respectable programs, but no where near the caliber of teams in Northern Kentucky that Fairview, Raceland, and LCA used to have to face in the first three rounds.

Are you building a good program? Yes. Are you winning? Yes. Have you won some playoff games? Yes.

Are you winning with just Fairview kids? No. Are you playing a tough schedule? No. Is your playoff games as difficult now than when you had to go to Northern Ky? No.

I don't think anyone is denying that the coaching staff is doing a good job. But to get on here and blow Coach Mcpeek up the way you do is a little overboard. Not everybody has to drop what they're doing and take notice at what's going on in Westwood, as you so whole heartedly suggest for everyone to do. Build a program. Stay humble. Win with Fairview kids. Schedule a few more better teams and keep your ego in check and then everyone will respect and start to notice the good job that's being done.

[eratia]

totally understand. I came from a small school and I remember the constant fight to gain any respect among all the larger schools around us. Fairview is fighting the same fight, now. Wins do inspire kids to want to play and stay out, so that's awesome.
Man, I can't wait for football season!

[LClion4life]

I'm from Lewis County and with russellpride on some points. When trying to build a program and increase numbers, you schedule down. That's the case with us this year, we have a nice group of seniors, good numbers, but after that, the numbers drop. So Coach Hughes has developed somewhat of an "easier" schedule hoping for more wins, and more enthusiasm and excitement being brought back to the program like their was in the 70s and 80s. But I think that boat has sailed for Fairview. They have proven that they can beat the local bigger, but mediocre at the same time, football programs. Arguing that it's not Fairview's fault that East Carter, West Carter, and Lewis County are bad(which West Carter wasn't this past year) is an excuse, and a lame one at that IMHO. LC, WC, and EC have never had outstanding football programs. East has had a couple of winning seasons here and there but have never been able to maintain stability and consistency in the program. This year was West Carter's first winning season since 1986. Lewis County hasn't had a winning season since 1988. Neither WC, or LC have ever won a playoff game. I understand saying that Fairview is playing bigger schools, but play the bigger, and better schools such as Mason County, Lawrence County, Ashland, Russell, Rowan County. All of these would be great games to show how Fairview measures up and all of these schools are at least 2 class sizes bigger than Fairview. Just like West Carter, Lewis County, and East Carter.

[russellpride]

As I stated before Peter pan they are building a program I've said that and I don't really understand your comments about fairview kids? Russell gets kids, Raceland gets kids, Ashland gets kid, why not name other schools? Proves you don't know much about the game but that's ok

[peterpan]

As I stated before Peter pan they are building a program I've said that and I don't really understand your comments about fairview kids? Russell gets kids, Raceland gets kids, Ashland gets kid, why not name other schools? Proves you don't know much about the game but that's ok

Out of all the points I made in my post this is the one you got stuck on? Sad. It's obvious you don't know much about the game if that is the only thing in my message that stuck out to you, "but that's ok".

Sure Raceland gets kids, but I don't see them going to Huntington to get them. Everybody gets kids. Fairview just seems to head to Huntington quite often to get them. Unlike Lewis Co. and some of the other schools that have been on Fairview's schedule, they don't start the year out with a bunch of brand new 1st year names on the roster like the Eagles seem to do.

What about strengthening your schedule up? What about keeping your nose to the grindstone and focusing on winning and building a program rather than continuing to tell us about the exploits of the Head Coach and how we should take notice to what he's doing and how great Fairview football is? Most solid programs that win and win often don't need to be told how good they are nor do they need to brag about their exploits against a sub-par schedule. Like I said before, You are winning, the coaching staff is doing a good job, interest is high, but posters like you don't need to get on here and blow smoke about how good the program and coach is. If you want to be acknowledged and congratulated for what has been done at Fairview, you are going about it entirely the wrong way. Do you feel that insecure about your program? If so, you have a long way to go to get toward a program like Raceland.

And again, why not change your name to FairviewPride, because your posts are directed to 95% of Fairview topics? Why would anyone in Russell care so much about what's happening in Fairview? :dontthink

[russellpride]

Yes sir Peter pan

[Statmaster]

Maybe Fairview doesn't schedule Ashland because Ashland will only play the small schools at Ashland. If I was raceland,I'd drop Ashland until they agreed to play at least once every 3 years at Raceland. It's not right that raceland goes to Ashland EVERY year.

[NEWARKCATHOLICFAN]

^Grove City Christian? Where are they from? Are they a pee wee team?

Grove City Christian is a small D-6 school located in Grove City,Ohio.

Last season they struggled after losing some players who went back to their orginal school, when those schools got their sports program back.

This year they should be a lot better and have a good chance to make the playoffs this season.

Four players to watch out for are
1-[SIZE=3]WR/DB/KR Wally Brewer (6'1", 175, Sr.), [/SIZE]
2-QB/DB Ben Whitaker (6'2", 180, Sr.),
3-OL/DL Blair Thompson (6'2", 250, Jr),
4-OL/DL Jordan Edwards (6'2", 290, Jr.)


With upgrading their schedule as much as they did one must believe they are starting a upward trend where they want the regualr season to prepare their players for the playoffs.

[LClion4life]

Maybe Fairview doesn't schedule Ashland because Ashland will only play the small schools at Ashland. If I was raceland,I'd drop Ashland until they agreed to play at least once every 3 years at Raceland. It's not right that raceland goes to Ashland EVERY year.

All the Ashland fans couldn't fit on that picnic table you guys call a visitors side.

[NEWARKCATHOLICFAN]

A little more info on G.C.C.
They have 3 players (Zack Casparro, Wally Brewer, and Jordan Edwards) that are being recruited by D1 schools. They have 2 All-Ohio players (Casparro and Tony Roark) returning. Depth is the major question, but 16 starters return. If the talented freshmen class steps up, this team could be a force.

[that's right]

Ashland pays Raceland $5,000 to play Raceland at home and I think it's good for both programs, Raceland did win three years in a row! and got paid., A win, win for Raceland and both fan bases! Raceland does get other players now and then but not big inpack players! fairview is getting to be a joke around here and they know it! it's a shame how they ditch thier players. Bill Music and the boys walk around like they have built something, if not for outsiders they wouldn't have a program at all. For the new field, haven't seen nothing new yet. i think they should put the money in that run down school that is falling apart. wake up fairview join russell or ashland and stop all the big taxes that feed the big salaries!

[russellpride]

Ashland pays Raceland $5,000 to play Raceland at home and I think it's good for both programs, Raceland did win three years in a row! and got paid., A win, win for Raceland and both fan bases! Raceland does get other players now and then but not big inpack players! fairview is getting to be a joke around here and they know it! it's a shame how they ditch thier players. Bill Music and the boys walk around like they have built something, if not for outsiders they wouldn't have a program at all. For the new field, haven't seen nothing new yet. i think they should put the money in that run down school that is falling apart. wake up fairview join russell or ashland and stop all the big taxes that feed the big salaries!

This statement deserves no response it's that dumb geez and yes all you raceland fans jump on me like always but truth is you don't like fairview and your mad kids wanna go there Russell gets kids just like others schools as well as Raceland your not very football smart to say they aren't building something

[thecoacher]

I think how Fairview is perceived or regarded in this area was obvious at last years EKC voting. Fairview was EKC champs but Coach McPeek wasn't close to beating Kevin Brown from West Carter for coach of the year. Coach McPeek nominated an assistant (his defensive coordinator I believe) for assistant coach of the year and he got 1 vote. I know you will say that the EKC is just political but if any other school was 9-1 at the meeting, I guarantee you their coach would have been coach of the year. Also, I don't believe they had any players win any of the "major awards" except for Zegina (not sure if that is spelled right).

Before you ask, no I was not at the meeting but I believe my source to be credible. My source was in no way anti-Fairview, he was just shocked at how they were treated in the voting.

[russellpride]

Ekc is a joke I'm surprised raceland and fairview have stayed in it to be honest.

[thecoacher]

Ekc is a joke I'm surprised raceland and fairview have stayed in it to be honest.

I knew that would be someones response. The EKC is the oldest conference in the state. Fact is they can leave anytime they choose, no one makes them stay in. I am not saying everything is perfect in it, but just that if they feel it is "a joke" they should get out.

[russellpride]

Agreed

[that's right]

russellpride, you have no idea how to build a program by all your statements! I think if russell changed the youth program maybe the last 4-5 years you would have been in the win stats more! fairview deserve more than they get. Nate is building his resume and thats all!

[russellpride]

Building his resume?

[LClion4life]

Building his resume for something bigger.

[sstack]

So what you are saying is Nate should say I'm sorry I scheduled the teams I have scheduled and should give back the wins? You are crazy man, winning breeds success, okay let's play really tough competition every single game and go 3-7 and 4-6 but that is better for us because it will help us in the playoffs? Don't think so buddy, also the score of LCA Fairview in the regional was 23-12 and that was on a late TD from LCA was a heck of game. The main difference between Raceland and other schools is they give NO ONE credit for growing their program. Fairview is now doing things right because of a good administration, good coaches, and good kids that are working hard. Like I have said before I know Nate and he tried to schedule a couple of good teams like Russell and Lawrence but it didn't work out so they play who he can get. Not many people wanna play a good solid single A team and that is what he ran into from what I was told. While I agree with you on the facts, how is it their fault those teams aren't very good. I'm pretty much done on this topic because people are going to say what they wanna say, but it's a dead horse. HAve a good day sir

Have you seen what Central has done the last couple of years? They schedule one of the toughest schedules in the state (most teams much larger than them) and go into the playoffs with losing or 500 records and have brought home 2 state championships. You can try every excuse you want, but playing better competition will make you better come playoff time. I do not think you need to schedule like Central, but I do think you need 1 or 2 big challenges to prepare your team. If you want to continue with the current level of play keep up what you are doing now. If you want to step the program up another notch, the strength of schedule is a good start. Look at what a A team like Beechwood does, they play Cov Cath, Highlands, NCC, Simon Kenton, Boone Co., Ryle, and Campbell Co. Yes, they take their lumps, but they are prepared for the A playoffs. Once agian, as a fan of the program, just constructive criticism on how they can continue to improve to even bigger things.

[sstack]

As I stated before Peter pan they are building a program I've said that and I don't really understand your comments about fairview kids? Russell gets kids, Raceland gets kids, Ashland gets kid, why not name other schools? Proves you don't know much about the game but that's ok

I have to agree with you russellpride! I get tired of other schools complaining about schools with "questionable" kids if the program is better than theirs, or has a good couple of years. If the schools were not following the rules, the KHSAA would come after them quickly.

[I Am The Genius]

Fairview shouldn't miss a beat this year. McPeek knows his stuff, and combining that with an excellent recruiting class (although not so far east this time) and they'll be back in contention once again!

I AM THE GENIUS

[I Am The Genius]

Building his resume?

Russellpride, you should warn Coach McPeek and his crew that the KHSAA is watching them very closely. It is my understanding that they have had a visit recently from the KHSAA. They may want to be careful about the number of transfer application forms they fill out this year. At least one player has played varsity football at a neighboring school that has not been released by that school. Isn't it true that one of Fairview's varsity athletes lives out of state and still plays at Fairview?

Anybody can be a good poker player if they cheat. There is already a group of disgruntled Fairview parents that is fed up with the local boys being knocked out of their positions by the transfers.

It is my opinion that the true quality of a coaching staff can be determined by developing their own talent and not recruiting. If recruiting is going to be tolerated at one school, let's allow all the schools to recruit.

I AM THE GENIUS

[russellpride]

I am the genius? Yeah right do you understand football Khsaa could care less about eastern Kentucky everybody knows that lol are you also aware that almost half of fairview enrollment is out of district kids. School wouldn't be open without those what you call recruits or transfers. That school gives kids academic and athletic chances they wouldn't get from another school like Ashland or Huntington high etc.

I am smart

[I Am The Genius]

I am the genius? Yeah right do you understand football Khsaa could care less about eastern Kentucky everybody knows that lol are you also aware that almost half of fairview enrollment is out of district kids. School wouldn't be open without those what you call recruits or transfers. That school gives kids academic and athletic chances they wouldn't get from another school like Ashland or Huntington high etc.I am smart

That's a weak response (notice you didn't cover even half my post) and if you think the KHSAA don't care about EKY sports, first off, they certainly didn't hesitate to lay the books down on Rose Hill's basketball program, and second, if they didn't care, why are they investigating Fairview's football program? Who else have they laid the books down on like Rose Hill? If programs think they are above the law, then it's just a matter of time before that catches up with them.

The bolded is an absolutely stupid comment. Are you saying these schools don't have good academics and athletics? Those schools (Russell, Ashland, etc.) have way better academic programs. Are you saying that your school recruits these students so they can keep their doors open?

Why would someone with the name "russellpride" be defending Fairivew so much, anyway?

I AM THE GENIUS

[that's right]

russellpride is a nate guy. I like Nate and he is a great guy, he knows football and treats the kids well; that being said, wrong , is wrong!

[russellpride]

Why don't you guys just go talk to them since you got all the right answers lol give me a break good luck this season

[I Am The Genius]

Why don't you guys just go talk to them since you got all the right answers lol give me a break good luck this season

Best of luck to you as well, whoever your team is, whether it is Russell, Ashland, Huntington High, Rock Hill, Coal Grove, Green Valley, Boyd, etc. Actually, I guess it won't matter if I guess your school wrong because your team has players from every school. You have more players from different schools than an all-star game.

I AM THE GENIUS