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11-06-2010, 02:17 PM
I maintain theres 3 great teams every year in Ky. A second tier of usually 3 or 4 respectable teams. 10 or so mediocre teams. The rest are really bad. Johnson falls in the 10 or so mediocre category this season. Last year I thought they fell in the second group of 3 or 4 teams. Shouldn't be hard to figure the 3 great teams. That hasn't changed very often. Maybe this year it's Ryle instead of Lou. X.
11-06-2010, 02:26 PM
Wideleft01 Wrote:I maintain theres 3 great teams every year in Ky. A second tier of usually 3 or 4 respectable teams. 10 or so mediocre teams. The rest are really bad. Johnson falls in the 10 or so mediocre category this season. Last year I thought they fell in the second group of 3 or 4 teams. Shouldn't be hard to figure the 3 great teams. That hasn't changed very often. Maybe this year it's Ryle instead of Lou. X.Highlands struggled with CovCath. They would struggle with Bell and Boyle. Massey agrees with me and ranks both of them above Ryle.
The arrogance on the part of a handful of NKY posters every year at this time never ceases to amaze me. Whether Highlands wins another title this year or not, they are not the team that they were a year ago.
11-06-2010, 02:36 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Highlands struggled with CovCath. They would struggle with Bell and Boyle. Massey agrees with me and ranks both of them above Ryle.
The arrogance on the part of a handful of NKY posters every year at this time never ceases to amaze me. Whether Highlands wins another title this year or not, they are not the team that they were a year ago.
I do not know who would not agree with you about Highlands not being the what they were a year ago. They also have been hit hard by the injury bug, so no, they are not as good as last year, but pretty darn good still. So you are saying even if they win a title this year, we should be disappointed because they are not as good as last year? I think you and everyone else is going go to find out how much CC has improved. The lost some games, but played a brutal schedule. Not saying JC can't beat them, but it is going to be a tough game. Ryle would beat Bell and Boyle, lets be serious. And yes Neerfan, they are going to beat SK agian too.
11-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Highlands struggled with CovCath. They would struggle with Bell and Boyle. Massey agrees with me and ranks both of them above Ryle.
The arrogance on the part of a handful of NKY posters every year at this time never ceases to amaze me. Whether Highlands wins another title this year or not, they are not the team that they were a year ago.
I would not say HHS struggled with CC. They dominated the first half and seemed to pack their bags thinking the game was over. Cov Cath did not quit and scored some lateTD's. If injuries do not kill us, I think Highlands wins by 21 in a rematch.
11-06-2010, 02:44 PM
I really believe Covcath will beat Johnson Central convincingly. Unfortunately for Johnson they have a turf field. Johnson won't be able to be like some other teams have done and hose the field down.
11-06-2010, 02:48 PM
man how do you sleep at night, I'LL bet you weresome little snotty nosed kid thats never seen a football field
11-06-2010, 02:48 PM
Wideleft01 Wrote:I really believe Covcath will beat Johnson Central convincingly. Unfortunately for Johnson they have a turf field. Johnson won't be able to be like some other teams have done and hose the field down.CovCath may wish that JC hosed down the field after chasing Jude and Hall awhile. I recall lots of your NKY neighbors predicting that CovCath would dominate JC last season too. Not only did it not happen, JC dominated the Colonels, who scored a few times in the second half to keep the final margin respectable. The same thing happened the previous season in the playoffs. Eventually, CovCath will beat JC in another playoff game. Who knows? Maybe this is their season. If you keep predicting it will happen, eventually it will happen.
11-06-2010, 02:50 PM
I thought Johnson had a really tough team last year. I knew they'd beat a real bad Covcath 09 team. Covcath is better. Johnson is not as good. Thus, I think Covcath wins. Just an opinion. I could be wrong. It wouldnt be the first time.
11-06-2010, 02:51 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:CovCath may wish that JC hosed down the field after chasing Jude and Hall awhile. I recall lots of your NKY neighbors predicting that CovCath would dominate JC last season too. Not only did it not happen, JC dominated the Colonels, who scored a few times in the second half to keep the final margin respectable. The same thing happened the previous season in the playoffs. Eventually, CovCath will beat JC in another playoff game. Who knows? Maybe this is their season. If you keep predicting it will happen, eventually it will happen.
Who was predicting that last year? CC was a mess last year, it was no secret.
11-06-2010, 02:54 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:CovCath may wish that JC hosed down the field after chasing Jude and Hall awhile. I recall lots of your NKY neighbors predicting that CovCath would dominate JC last season too. Not only did it not happen, JC dominated the Colonels, who scored a few times in the second half to keep the final margin respectable. The same thing happened the previous season in the playoffs. Eventually, CovCath will beat JC in another playoff game. Who knows? Maybe this is their season. If you keep predicting it will happen, eventually it will happen.
Hoot, there sure was no one in NKY thinking that Cov Cath had any chance last year. Last year, we were surprised that the Colonels had not dropped football by the fifth game of the season.
11-06-2010, 02:55 PM
Just look at the numbers. It's easy to run your chops but the numbers are the numbers. In addition if you review the JC schedule you will find 5 teams with KY State Championships. Just the facts.
11-06-2010, 02:58 PM
I'm looking forward to being a "Blue Colonel" fan next week.
11-06-2010, 03:09 PM
Stardust Wrote:Hoot, there sure was no one in NKY thinking that Cov Cath had any chance last year. Last year, we were surprised that the Colonels had not dropped football by the fifth game of the season.I thought they had a chance.hh:But then again I have a "Spirit that will no die :rockon:
:Clap:
11-06-2010, 03:11 PM
Wideleft01 Wrote:I'm looking forward to being a "Blue Colonel" fan next week.Beats being a "Little Red" Colonel from down the highway fan
11-06-2010, 03:11 PM
Wideleft01 Wrote:I'm looking forward to being a "Blue Colonel" fan next week.
And your a Highlands fan? You must REALLY hate EKY teams.
11-06-2010, 03:13 PM
Eagle84 Wrote:Just look at the numbers. It's easy to run your chops but the numbers are the numbers. In addition if you review the JC schedule you will find 5 teams with KY State Championships. Just the facts.
You mean from the beginning of time?
And didn't Scott and Cov Cath play last years "National High School Champion"
11-06-2010, 03:13 PM
I don't hate the E. Ky teams at all. If Covcath wins, I can walk to the game on November 19th. If they lose I have to drive and spend money. Who would you root for. I don't fear either team.
11-06-2010, 03:14 PM
If Johnson Central happens to get past Highlands. I will root for them to win the title. I like the running offense too btw.
11-06-2010, 03:15 PM
Wideleft01 Wrote:I don't hate the E. Ky teams at all. If Covcath wins, I can walk to the game on November 19th. If they lose I have to drive and spend money. Who would you root for. I don't fear either team.
Then I stand corrected, makes sense to me.
11-06-2010, 03:27 PM
Stardust Wrote:Hoot, there sure was no one in NKY thinking that Cov Cath had any chance last year. Last year, we were surprised that the Colonels had not dropped football by the fifth game of the season.That may be how you remember things but that is not how it was. Among those who predicted an easy CovCath win over JC last season were sstack, kywldcat01, Can you dig it?, and whackem'n'stackem'. To your own credit, you did pick Johnson Central to win the game. Look it up. I expect to see the same kind of wild predictions of a CovCath rout of JC this year by the usual suspects. :biggrin:
Johnson Central beat Ashland on the road with the district title on the line. Anything can happen, but I expect that it will be very difficult for CovCath to make a 3-1/2 hour bus drive to Paintsville and beat the Golden Eagles on their home field. IMO, both CovCath and Johnson Central are better than they were a year ago but Johnson Central was much better than the Colonels last season.
11-06-2010, 05:32 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:That may be how you remember things but that is not how it was. Among those who predicted an easy CovCath win over JC last season were sstack, kywldcat01, Can you dig it?, and whackem'n'stackem'. To your own credit, you did pick Johnson Central to win the game. Look it up. I expect to see the same kind of wild predictions of a CovCath rout of JC this year by the usual suspects. :biggrin:
Johnson Central beat Ashland on the road with the district title on the line. Anything can happen, but I expect that it will be very difficult for CovCath to make a 3-1/2 hour bus drive to Paintsville and beat the Golden Eagles on their home field. IMO, both CovCath and Johnson Central are better than they were a year ago but Johnson Central was much better than the Colonels last season.
I never predicted an easy win by COV CATH over JC last year. Like I said before, the team was a mess last year. And as for this year I would not be surprised to see a COV CATH win. They are playing better at the end of the year, had a killer schedule,and seem to be well coached. It is tough to go 3 hours, but I do think they have their confidence back this year. The game will be a good measure of the two teams for Highlands. Like alot of people feel, on paper and schedules it seems Cov Cath might be favored, but we will find out for next week when these two teams bang heads.
11-06-2010, 05:36 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Watch the JC-WC game on iHigh and you will see how WC scored 35. The truth is, the game could have ended much earlier with a running clock and with WC scoring far fewer points and/or JC scoring far more points. JC subbed early and often on defense. Beyond that, you just need to watch the game if you think WC shredded JC's defense.
Didn't JC score 70 in that game?? - i was reminded that the WC game was the one where the star RB ran for 600 yards or something like that.
Why not have a running clock? End the losing team's misery earlier.
11-06-2010, 05:50 PM
horst muhlmann Wrote:Didn't JC score 70 in that game?? - i was reminded that the WC game was the one where the star RB ran for 600 yards or something like that.You keep throwing out the fact that JC gave up 35 points to WC, yet you have not even watched the game. That is why I suggest that you watch the game because JC was no less dominating against WC than Highlands and had you seen the game, then you would understand that fact.
Why not have a running clock? End the losing team's misery earlier.
11-06-2010, 06:15 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:You keep throwing out the fact that JC gave up 35 points to WC, yet you have not even watched the game. That is why I suggest that you watch the game because JC was no less dominating against WC than Highlands and had you seen the game, then you would understand that fact.
Would like to hear some of the WC players/fans who saw both games to compare the two teams!
11-06-2010, 06:16 PM
sstack Wrote:Would like to hear some of the WC players/fans who saw both games to compare the two teams!
I did hear some WC parents in the stands talking about how they could not believe the speed that Highlands team as a whole had.
11-06-2010, 06:32 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:That may be how you remember things but that is not how it was. Among those who predicted an easy CovCath win over JC last season were sstack, kywldcat01, Can you dig it?, and whackem'n'stackem'. To your own credit, you did pick Johnson Central to win the game. Look it up. I expect to see the same kind of wild predictions of a CovCath rout of JC this year by the usual suspects. :biggrin:
Johnson Central beat Ashland on the road with the district title on the line. Anything can happen, but I expect that it will be very difficult for CovCath to make a 3-1/2 hour bus drive to Paintsville and beat the Golden Eagles on their home field. IMO, both CovCath and Johnson Central are better than they were a year ago but Johnson Central was much better than the Colonels last season.
YOU NEED TO BACK UP YOUR ACCUSATIONS! I did go back and look at old posts and the only comments I made where "I think it will be a close game." " I think Cov Cath wins after what JC showed agianst Scott. I do not think Cov Cath is a good team, but giving up 41 to Scott is terrible." I do not believe that was a prediction for a easy Cov Cath win. You continue to try to take NKY and HHS fans who think JC has a good team and paint us as arrogant, snobs and ignorant. By the way, I saw your posts ( and Bob Seger's) about the Republican party, so I know you guys are very sensible. You must be pretty decent guys!
11-06-2010, 06:43 PM
sstack Wrote:I never predicted an easy win by COV CATH over JC last year. Like I said before, the team was a mess last year. And as for this year I would not be surprised to see a COV CATH win. They are playing better at the end of the year, had a killer schedule,and seem to be well coached. It is tough to go 3 hours, but I do think they have their confidence back this year. The game will be a good measure of the two teams for Highlands. Like alot of people feel, on paper and schedules it seems Cov Cath might be favored, but we will find out for next week when these two teams bang heads.You did not predict a score, but you were among the 42% of voters who picked a bad CovCath team to beat JC based on the Golden Eagles giving up 41 points in a blowout win over Scott. I am seeing the same sort of arguments already this season. Because Bell County, Boyle County, and Knox Central play in 4A and share few, if any, common opponents with the NKY teams, the NKY posters are dismissing them as inferior opponents and that is a big mistake. IMO, Bell is one of the top two teams in the state this season and the other team is not Highlands. Boyle is on the same level, although JC's game against Boyle was much closer than its loss to Bell. Knox would be a serious contender in 5A, just as Johnson Central is.
CovCath and Johnson Central both overpowered Ashland. Anybody who tries to predict the outcome of a home playoff game for Johnson Central next week on the basis of that single game is wasting their time. JC's defense has made great strides since early in the season, just as it did last season. JC lost some key people last season, but they return Hall, Jude, and Bratton in the backfield that gave CovCath fits a year ago.
11-06-2010, 07:23 PM
Congrats JC
11-06-2010, 07:57 PM
sstack Wrote:YOU NEED TO BACK UP YOUR ACCUSATIONS! I did go back and look at old posts and the only comments I made where "I think it will be a close game." " I think Cov Cath wins after what JC showed agianst Scott. I do not think Cov Cath is a good team, but giving up 41 to Scott is terrible." I do not believe that was a prediction for a easy Cov Cath win. You continue to try to take NKY and HHS fans who think JC has a good team and paint us as arrogant, snobs and ignorant. By the way, I saw your posts ( and Bob Seger's) about the Republican party, so I know you guys are very sensible. You must be pretty decent guys!I just noticed that you replaced your original post while I was responding to it. I hope that my response was an adequate correction. The "easy" adjective did not apply in your case, but you did predict a CovCath win based on the 41 points that JC surrendered to Scott, mostly after the game had long been decided. I will try to be more careful and not lump you in with some of your more arrogant fellow NKY fans in the future. :biggrin:
My point is that JC has now been to the regional finals three times and played Highlands as well as most teams that have played them in the playoffs and if memory serves JC also gave CovCath its best playoff game in 2006. In addition, JC easily defeated CovCath the past two seasons in playoff games, while beefing up its own schedule to include 4A powers Bell, Boyle, and Knox Central. Yet, several NKY posters repeatedly belittle Johnson Central's schedule in thread after thread. Johnson Central's program is not yet on Highlands' level but suggestions that it would not be competitive in the same district with Covington Catholic and Dixie ignore recent history.
11-06-2010, 08:10 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:I just noticed that you replaced your original post while I was responding to it. I hope that my response was an adequate correction. The "easy" adjective did not apply in your case, but you did predict a CovCath win based on the 41 points that JC surrendered to Scott, mostly after the game had long been decided. I will try to be more careful and not lump you in with some of your more arrogant fellow NKY fans in the future. :biggrin:
My point is that JC has now been to the regional finals three times and played Highlands as well as most teams that have played them in the playoffs and if memory serves JC also gave CovCath its best playoff game in 2006. In addition, JC easily defeated CovCath the past two seasons in playoff games, while beefing up its own schedule to include 4A powers Bell, Boyle, and Knox Central. Yet, several NKY posters repeatedly belittle Johnson Central's schedule in thread after thread. Johnson Central's program is not yet on Highlands' level but suggestions that it would not be competitive in the same district with Covington Catholic and Dixie ignore recent history.
Fair Hoot, and pretty spot on :Thumbs:
I have no bone in this fight, I'm from a 6A school and know very little about 5A football away from NKY.
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