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Bell Co. @ Harlan Co. 10/29
My comments were addressing someone who showed up to state that according to a scrimmage Knox is considerably better. This in the Harlan Co vs Bell thread right out of the wild blue yonder. Where did that come from? My other comments addressed a few who were insinuating that the Bears wouldn't make the effort with the playoffs coming up and would only play a few series before pulling the starters. I stated the Bears were up for the challenge. All of Harlan County and Bell County love this rivalry and if you can't get pumped for it you heart aint beating. Bell County Football has alot to be proud of and I for one know and respect the powerhouse that Bell is today. I also know that my Bears are building and heading in that same direction very soon to be the same. Is it out of the question to assume that the Bears could beat Bell? I think not. The statement about Bell being cocky? If any team does good and insinuates that they may be a mountain powerhouse or working to be that. It has been immediate that a Bell poster steps in to correct them and remind them that as long as they exclude Bell thats fine and as long as they realize that they are not nor anyone comparable to Bell County its fine to toot a little. They show up everywhere and everone knows it. Again I think Bell may very well win the state 4A Championship this year and I give them total respect., but GO BLACK BEARS!!!
Magnum P. I. Wrote:I love how HC has got on the band wagon of resting players to save them for the playoffs. It seems like they've forgot that Bell won the district as well and are just making excuses for that whipping their fixing to take friday night. Belly on easy street after halftime.
Bell 42
HC 14

[SIZE="4"]Everyone on board!!![/SIZE]

Hop on and rest up!....LOL

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Players on both sides are hurt...that is truely awful!!!...I really believe that those kids would rather play any day than sit on the "injured list"...I honestly hope Davenport is ok!.....I honestly hope Smith is ok!....(And any others)...I want to see great athletes from both sides come out and play BALL!....yay for football!...what a fun sport to watch!:football:

So......Lighten up!

And hit me back with a Dead bear!....or a Cool Bear skin rug!...Get creative!!!

I got nothin but love for everyone!:loveya:

Go Bears!!!
The poster said Knox was significantly better based on a scrimmage where if I remember correctly, it was a scrimmage, they knox were stopped first series and in the second series a Bear was seriously injured and that was a distraction, back and forth, Knox completed a few passes, reserves were in and out and this as always in a scrimmage that don't really matter hill of beans. By no means is Knox Significantly better upon the preseason scrimmage basis. It was a scrimmage and thats that. The Black Bears will never back down from Bell or Knox and as I have said they will bring a battle. If they lose, they lose. If they win, they win. The Black Bear Nation will back them. They will come for a win. What I say isn't cocky nor arrogant. GO BLACK BEARS!!!
I'm pretty sure back on page 2 or 3 I apologized for the hate post which was a joke went wrong!
As for our humility, there was a thread titled "why is bell county so great". I personally don't get mad when people pick against HC it's just the way it's said like it's impossible for us to win. As my sparing partner has taken the high road I will follow his example and do the same, I set a bad tone and I have said sorry. This really isn't any fun when we get mad at what each other posts! I believe we all understand this is a game and kids are playing it so let's talk HC vs Bell!
Patriot Wrote:I'm pretty sure back on page 2 or 3 I apologized for the hate post which was a joke went wrong!
As for our humility, there was a thread titled "why is bell county so great". I personally don't get mad when people pick against HC it's just the way it's said like it's impossible for us to win. As my sparing partner has taken the high road I will follow his example and do the same, I set a bad tone and I have said sorry. This really isn't any fun when we get mad at what each other posts! I believe we all understand this is a game and kids are playing it so let's talk HC vs Bell!

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We need to get someone to host a "Sensitivity Training Seminar" in Pathfork for any HC or BC fans who are taking any of these posts to mean anything other than what they are, which is just pokes and jabs all in fun. Where's zaga-fan?
I think we need to start a thread for filthy animal and zaga to have a no holds barred picture making contest!
Bell will win easily. HC is just not ready for the likes of Bell. HC might build something....but not enough this year for Bell. You can whine all you want to about me not giving HC a chance....but in my opinion...they have very little chance of winning.:popcorn:
Mama Bear Wrote:We need to get someone to host a "Sensitivity Training Seminar" in Pathfork for any HC or BC fans who are taking any of these posts to mean anything other than what they are, which is just pokes and jabs all in fun. Where's zaga-fan?


Will the sessions be taught by Coach Larkey and Coach Hilton????
Patriot Wrote:Will the sessions be taught by Coach Larkey and Coach Hilton????

Neither!

We'll get one of the girls who guard the bridge to teach it.
Mama Bear Wrote:Neither!

We'll get one of the girls who guard the bridge to teach it.

Sensitivity training that's something they teach at independent schools isn't it???
Bobcat_Dad Wrote:All monies were spent on the Gym so they would have room to host the regional tourney.

I would check my sources on a statement like this.

I am getting to the point where I would be happy with a toned down version of what is planned, just to have our "own" field. It's taken the evarts and cumberland boys awhile to get used to playing there, but everything seems to be okay. Funny how winning solves a lot of things.
Dungy Wrote:Thinking I can merge both sides.

In a way, the Knox fan is right in that you root for a rival when they play someone outside the area or district (I can pick on my brother but no one else better). I have more roots at Harlan Independent than Harlan County, but I root for the Bears when playing anyone else, especially this Friday, as they play the underdog role against Bell (Bobcat fans are much more cocky - Harlan Co. fans are right about that). I picked HC 9-1 (granted I thought then they would beat Pulaski and lose to Bell) with a regional title pre-season, and I'll stick by that.

On the other hand, Bear fans are right if you are going to use scores to predict (as the Knox fan did). HC rocked Clay, KC barely won against Clay and played Bell close. Not sure you should count grids, but those would favor HC being competitive this Friday too.


I'll just say this and leave it at that. You said that Harlan County fans were right about Bell being cocky. You have no idea what you're talking about. Harlan County has talked the trash for two years now. I don't know what you've been reading but if you're basing Bell being cocky by post on here, how in the world could you say they're more cocky than Harlan County. Everyone has their opinion but your's is far from being accurate and for sure not fair. And on the subject of talk, Bell can talk. They've actually done something for years and years, and even more years. They win. They back their talk up. I'll be the first to admit that Bell has some crazy posters that says way too many stupid things but we're definitely not alone. All teams have them. Bell has owned this area for years. They can talk. Harlan needs to actually accomplish something before they get on here talking the trash.
And as I said earlier on this thread, I pull for Harlan County. I wish them well. What do we get from some Harlan Co. posters? How they hate us. They hate everything about Bell. They can't wait to see Bell's program collapse. They would pull for anyone that plays Bell. That's fine. You know why? Jealousy. We are what they want to be. Stop the talking and get busy working on being better than Bell.
And I have noticed when someone doesn't pick Harlan County on here to win their next game many of the Harlan County faithful become very defensive about it. Get over it. I've seen posts on here where posters predict Bell to lose and that's fine. They have a right to their opinion. They may be wrong but still yet, it was what they believed at the time. Good luck to both teams Friday night. I look for it to be a good game with Bell winning in the end........
BB CLAW Wrote:The poster said Knox was significantly better based on a scrimmage where if I remember correctly, it was a scrimmage, they knox were stopped first series and in the second series a Bear was seriously injured and that was a distraction, back and forth, Knox completed a few passes, reserves were in and out and this as always in a scrimmage that don't really matter hill of beans. By no means is Knox Significantly better upon the preseason scrimmage basis. It was a scrimmage and thats that. The Black Bears will never back down from Bell or Knox and as I have said they will bring a battle. If they lose, they lose. If they win, they win. The Black Bear Nation will back them. They will come for a win. What I say isn't cocky nor arrogant. GO BLACK BEARS!!!
no one thinks the bears will back down,and i will be the first to say i thought you all would finish 3rd or 4th in the district.with that being said i am surprised how much you have improved from year to year and game to game.but remember,every year you play bell you say the same thing,"were gonna stomp em"or such.i say bell runs through you like a bum through wine.but i really hope you win to bring bell's arrogance down a notch. bell 28 hcc 7.....please prove me wrong,
easyM Wrote:And I have noticed when someone doesn't pick Harlan County on here to win their next game many of the Harlan County faithful become very defensive about it. Get over it. I've seen posts on here where posters predict Bell to lose and that's fine. They have a right to their opinion. They may be wrong but still yet, it was what they believed at the time. Good luck to both teams Friday night. I look for it to be a good game with Bell winning in the end........

Bell has proved a lot over the years and deserve to be proud I agree with that. But the reason I am such a heckler is posts similar to yours, you say HC gets mad when we aren't picked win, but some Bell posters get mad and basically tell people they are ignorant, stupid, mindless, idiots for saying bell will lose. So the way I see it neither of us like to be told we are going to lose! Which is what I base a lot of my thinking on, you should never think your team will lose.
WOW I cant belive that KC got brought into this but oh well that is what happens when a program starts winning year in and year out. Not a big fan of Bell but can say this they have a great coach and a team full great players its just hard to stop them all. Look at what they did to Johnson Central and they have one of the best running backs in the state. I said this when HC got the new school and went and got a good coach in 4-5 years they would be good and they are but Bell is just better right now and they have set the bar for all the teams in this area. To be the best you have to beat the best so good luck with that.better show up friday night and if you dont win come on here and tell eveyone how sorry you are for all this crap. Bell will win this oneConfusedhh:
drove by bell high and knox today on my way to work and saw dudley at the top of the hill while the players were running up n down it. got to knox central about 10-15 min later and didnt see a single player on their practice field. not saying knox wasnt in film or had all ready finished practice but it shows bell county's dedication and drive for their 2nd title in 3 years.
Patriot Wrote:Bell has proved a lot over the years and deserve to be proud I agree with that. But the reason I am such a heckler is posts similar to yours, you say HC gets mad when we aren't picked win, but some Bell posters get mad and basically tell people they are ignorant, stupid, mindless, idiots for saying bell will lose. So the way I see it neither of us like to be told we are going to lose! Which is what I base a lot of my thinking on, you should never think your team will lose.

You didn't get the point. Every team has posters that say stupid things and go off the deep end if someone picks their opponent to win the game. BELL has them for sure. But HARLAN CO. does as well. There's not a thing wrong with supporting your team and believing in them to win a game.
I've seen posters from Harlan Co. picking their team to win. That's just fine with me. They should think that unless their team is just horrid. Harlan County is far from being horrid. My point is this, posters get on here slamming the other school and making one degrading remark after another. That's just stupidity of the individual. That's not stupidity of all the posters who back that same team. It's an individual, not a whole group. I don't judge a teams fans based on one person. Just like your ranting about how bad you hate Bell. How you just hate everything about them, period! Hate is a strong word. And then you say, they think no one can beat them. Well, they better have that mentality. If not, don't even show up for the game. Bell has been one program who stands out in this area for all ot their success. Whether you like that or not. They'll show up Friday at Cawood thinking they will hand Harlan Co. their butts. That's what they should feel. But, that doesn't say they nothing about disrespecting Harlan Co. What it says is, we believe in ourselves. We're the better team and we will win this ballgame. That's what every player should think. But, they have to go out on the field and do it.
Just leave the hatred you have for in your ownself. I don't hate Harlan Co. And yes, I pull for them through out this season. As most in Bell supports Knox and Whitley as well. Here's an old saying one of my buddies came up with that are on many t-shirts now. It says, don't hate us cause you aint us. Bell should be commended for all of their accomplishments along with many other programs here in the mountains. Prime example, I really respect the Belfry program and their coach. Appreciate all of our mountain teams. Just pull against them only when they are playing your team....... Let's grow up a little. And remember, when you say you hate Bell, you're hating those kids that play the game for Bell. That's sad....
easyM Wrote:You didn't get the point. Every team has posters that say stupid things and go off the deep end if someone picks their opponent to win the game. BELL has them for sure. But HARLAN CO. does as well. There's not a thing wrong with supporting your team and believing in them to win a game.
I've seen posters from Harlan Co. picking their team to win. That's just fine with me. They should think that unless their team is just horrid. Harlan County is far from being horrid. My point is this, posters get on here slamming the other school and making one degrading remark after another. That's just stupidity of the individual. That's not stupidity of all the posters who back that same team. It's an individual, not a whole group. I don't judge a teams fans based on one person. Just like your ranting about how bad you hate Bell. How you just hate everything about them, period! Hate is a strong word. And then you say, they think no one can beat them. Well, they better have that mentality. If not, don't even show up for the game. Bell has been one program who stands out in this area for all ot their success. Whether you like that or not. They'll show up Friday at Cawood thinking they will hand Harlan Co. their butts. That's what they should feel. But, that doesn't say they nothing about disrespecting Harlan Co. What it says is, we believe in ourselves. We're the better team and we will win this ballgame. That's what every player should think. But, they have to go out on the field and do it.
Just leave the hatred you have for in your ownself. I don't hate Harlan Co. And yes, I pull for them through out this season. As most in Bell supports Knox and Whitley as well. Here's an old saying one of my buddies came up with that are on many t-shirts now. It says, don't hate us cause you aint us. Bell should be commended for all of their accomplishments along with many other programs here in the mountains. Prime example, I really respect the Belfry program and their coach. Appreciate all of our mountain teams. Just pull against them only when they are playing your team....... Let's grow up a little. And remember, when you say you hate Bell, you're hating those kids that play the game for Bell. That's sad....

Okay this is like the 4th or 5th time I have apologized for the hate stuff! It's a funny video on youtube about TN and Alabama and I thought it would be funny just assumed most every had seen the video. I do not hate bell kids! Seriously me and the Perry Central guys really got at one another, just a joke noting but a joke! And I do believe I lead off my last post giving bell credit! What don't I get? I'm missing something! Yes some HC posters get crazy over not getting picked to win, but I said SOME bell fans belittle people for picking against bell. Why is it I can say almost the same thing you said and be told I need to grow up a little. And rest of your post reads similar to mine about winning mentality. Apparently if I don't post something insane people think it's boring and don't read it.
Patriot Wrote:Okay this is like the 4th or 5th time I have apologized for the hate stuff! It's a funny video on youtube about TN and Alabama and I thought it would be funny just assumed most every had seen the video. I do not hate bell kids! Seriously me and the Perry Central guys really got at one another, just a joke noting but a joke! And I do believe I lead off my last post giving bell credit! What don't I get? I'm missing something! Yes some HC posters get crazy over not getting picked to win, but I said SOME bell fans belittle people for picking against bell. Why is it I can say almost the same thing you said and be told I need to grow up a little. And rest of your post reads similar to mine about winning mentality. Apparently if I don't post something insane people think it's boring and don't read it.

This isn't about you. I used the hate example that came from you but other than that, it's about fans in general. I like to pull for other local teams. It's not for everybody I know but for me, I can't help pull for these mountain kids that live near me. Bell is Bell. They're the best around here and if you figure it up over the last twenty years or so, they are the program that others look to now when they too want to feel that success. Harlan County is a program that's busting at the seam with potential. I have no doubt they'll be a powerhouse year in and year out. I think they are this year. They're not the top dog but they're not far from it. Enjoy the game Friday night whether your Bears win or lose because I think it will be one heck of a game to watch. Good luck to the Bears.
bell does have some people on here that go way out of bounds with their comments talking about killing these smaller schools and when somebody comes back on him he will throw a nice stat at you for that i am sorry i don't know what year he played for bell but he did not get that from our program or our coaches for that i'm sorry as for these other posts back and forth i think it is great as long as we keep it clean thats what football is all about with that being said bell county 55 harlan 0 lets keep it going:flame:
easyM Wrote:This isn't about you. I used the hate example that came from you but other than that, it's about fans in general. I like to pull for other local teams. It's not for everybody I know but for me, I can't help pull for these mountain kids that live near me. Bell is Bell. They're the best around here and if you figure it up over the last twenty years or so, they are the program that others look to now when they too want to feel that success. Harlan County is a program that's busting at the seam with potential. I have no doubt they'll be a powerhouse year in and year out. I think they are this year. They're not the top dog but they're not far from it. Enjoy the game Friday night whether your Bears win or lose because I think it will be one heck of a game to watch. Good luck to the Bears.

Finally! Thank You! I will enjoy the game and I hope everyone does the same! I hope we can enjoy the banter on here its just Monday!

Just out of curiosity was it six years after bell and lone jack consolidated that bell one a state championship?
big blue hillbilly Wrote:bell does have some people on here that go way out of bounds with their comments talking about killing these smaller schools and when somebody comes back on him he will throw a nice stat at you for that i am sorry i don't know what year he played for bell but he did not get that from our program or our coaches for that i'm sorry as for these other posts back and forth i think it is great as long as we keep it clean thats what football is all about with that being said bell county 55 harlan 0 lets keep it going:flame:

Are you some kind of idiot? KIDDING just KIDDING!

I enjoy the back and forth, after we state why our team will win and predict a score what else have we got to do?

Black Bears 99
Bell 2
big blue hillbilly Wrote:bell does have some people on here that go way out of bounds with their comments talking about killing these smaller schools and when somebody comes back on him he will throw a nice stat at you for that i am sorry i don't know what year he played for bell but he did not get that from our program or our coaches for that i'm sorry as for these other posts back and forth i think it is great as long as we keep it clean thats what football is all about with that being said bell county 55 harlan 0 lets keep it going:flame:

Good post. We do have some that come on here saying things that is just degrading to other teams. There's no excuse for that but we can't control what everyone says. All we can do is not to back them with the comments they made and call them out for it. I'm certain I have read on here all year long from most Bell posters that they are pulling for Harlan County in their games on Friday night. We all know this Friday of course both set of fans will post and say how bad they want this game to go in their favor. Not a thing wrong with that but can we speak our minds without showing our ***? I for one will be pulling for the Bobcats to put another victory on the long list they already have. But, after that game is over, I'll be pulling for Harlan County to win every game from there on. Good luck to both teams. May the best team win. That would be us...:biggrin: Just having a little fun with it.
Patriot Wrote:Finally! Thank You! I will enjoy the game and I hope everyone does the same! I hope we can enjoy the banter on here its just Monday!

Just out of curiosity was it six years after bell and lone jack consolidated that bell one a state championship?

We consolidated in 84/85 school year. We won the state in 91.
easyM Wrote:Good post. We do have some that come on here saying things that is just degrading to other teams. There's no excuse for that but we can't control what everyone says. All we can do is not to back them with the comments they made and call them out for it. I'm certain I have read on here all year long from most Bell posters that they are pulling for Harlan County in their games on Friday night. We all know this Friday of course both set of fans will post and say how bad they want this game to go in their favor. Not a thing wrong with that but can we speak our minds without showing our ***? I for one will be pulling for the Bobcats to put another victory on the long list they already have. But, after that game is over, I'll be pulling for Harlan County to win every game from there on. Good luck to both teams. May the best team win. That would be us...:biggrin: Just having a little fun with it.

To be sung or at least hummed to the tune of the Hokey Pokey! That's what it's all about!
Holy cow! Look, the fact is Bell has a very powerful team that will contend for a state championship. Bell fans are proud and very proud and should be. Bell should go into every game with the mindset that they will win. Every team should. Harlan County is a rising program that have shown and proved that they have a great team as well. HC also goes into every Friday Night with the same mindset that they will win. The HC Black Bear Nation is proud of the accomplishments of their team so far in these three years of existence and especially this year. Have the Bears built good enough to beat Bell County? I think the Bears will be a bigger problem for Bell than what most are thinking. I for one have faith in the Black Bears and the future Black Bear Program, just like Bell fans have for their team. No doubt Bell has IMO one of the best teams in the state. This group of Bell Seniors are a very talented group, as good as any across the state. Harlan County will have to play a flawless game and also play their best game of the year to be in the game. Can they? I think they can and will. What is wrong with me in thinking and believing this. Yes, this game has potential to be big. The HC and BC fans all love football and we may get to see the game of the year here in Harlan County. Nondistrict, but huge. Again, I think my Bears will give Bell all they want and could beat Bell. Bell fans think otherwise and thats their perogative. Nontheless, both of these teams will have great playoff potential. I hope both go to the state championship and win. This Friday Night I hope all the Bears are healthy and all the Bobcats are healthy and they go at it and in the end, I hope all are still free of injuries. GO BLACK BEARS!!!!
easyM Wrote:We consolidated in 84/85 school year. We won the state in 91.

When was Hilton hired and wasn't there already bell county high school and just lone jack came in?
Patriot Wrote:When was Hilton hired and wasn't there already bell county high school and just lone jack came in?

Yes Dudley's first year was at the old Bell Co. High School. That was the last year of the old high school before consolidation. The year before he arrived we never won a single game. He came in and had an above 500 record that year. Can't remember the exact record though. I'm calling it a night Patriot. Hope to talk to you on here tomorrow. Talk at you later on.
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