[Big Boomer]

I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

McCoart was hit a lot and a sizable chunk of his yardage came from his second and third efforts. He crossed the line once carrying so many Corbin players with him, I don't think there was any room for more. If Corbin's plan was to give up a lot of yards to speed up the game, then the Redhounds did a great job making it look like they were trying to tackle JC's running backs.

I think if these two teams play again, JC should consider kicking onsides every time. It didn't seem to matter where either team started their drives. If Corbin's plan was to let JC score quickly, then their kicker would not have put the ball in the end zone on nearly every kickoff.

true, good points. I had heard that JC had done a great job of taking a lot of the best tacklers on Corbin's Defense out of plays all night. I had heard also from Corbin fans that the announcer did a great job all night and they really thought JC had a awesome stadium.

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I can say I did not expect this as I am sure most of you did not. I was hoping one of these teams were going to be able to be competitive with Boyle but with defense like that I don't see that happening because Boyle will get some stops for sure. But it was an exciting one to watch if you like to see high scoring games. Kudos to the offensive coordinators because they both had good game plans and execution.

I think either team will have to play a instant classic out of their minds game to beat Boyle this season. but I think in my opinion that if what I have heard is true that Malachi Brown was cleared yesterday than he will help Corbin Defense immensely. he is a big and fast Defense end and he will get a lot of attention trying to keep him out of the backfield and I think it will help out the other guys to make plays when he is being double teamed. but I will say he is a beast and I've seen him shred double teams in the scrimmages at the start of the season.

[Old School Hound]

I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

McCoart was hit a lot and a sizable chunk of his yardage came from his second and third efforts. He crossed the line once carrying so many Corbin players with him, I don't think there was any room for more. If Corbin's plan was to give up a lot of yards to speed up the game, then the Redhounds did a great job making it look like they were trying to tackle JC's running backs.

I think if these two teams play again, JC should consider kicking onsides every time. It didn't seem to matter where either team started their drives. If Corbin's plan was to let JC score quickly, then their kicker would not have put the ball in the end zone on nearly every kickoff.

true, good points. I had heard that JC had done a great job of taking a lot of the best tacklers on Corbin's Defense out of plays all night. I had heard also from Corbin fans that the announcer did a great job all night and they really thought JC had a awesome stadium.

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I can say I did not expect this as I am sure most of you did not. I was hoping one of these teams were going to be able to be competitive with Boyle but with defense like that I don't see that happening because Boyle will get some stops for sure. But it was an exciting one to watch if you like to see high scoring games. Kudos to the offensive coordinators because they both had good game plans and execution.

I think either team will have to play a instant classic out of their minds game to beat Boyle this season. but I think in my opinion that if what I have heard is true that Malachi Brown was cleared yesterday than he will help Corbin Defense immensely. he is a big and fast Defense end and he will get a lot of attention trying to keep him out of the backfield and I think it will help out the other guys to make plays when he is being double teamed. but I will say he is a beast and I've seen him shred double teams in the scrimmages at the start of the season.

Malachi will definitely help. He is a 15 y.o., 6'4" , 235lb manchild. Helluva athlete, was top 15 ranked in his class in basketball in WVA. Can also play TE, great hands and footwork. Can't wait to watch him. Hope he can make the defense a better unit overall. If the defense could be just adequate, this team would be very good.

[TD Hounds]

I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

A lot of the Corbin faithful caught flack on here for saying that the program was being ran into the ground by the group that took over for Haddix…..Well do you think Greer would have left if he’d had a team that could compete with Boyle?  Roster numbers for the last 10 years have been over or right at 100 kids on the sideline, this year is a little over half…So no there was no scheme to Jedi mind trick JC, we just aren’t close to being the team we where the last couple years, this is what we’ve been complaining about and the two that caused the most damage have rolled out looking for greener pastures just like I knew they would….

[Old School Hound]

I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

A lot of the Corbin faithful caught flack on here for saying that the program was being ran into the ground by the group that took over for Haddix…..Well do you think Greer would have left if he’d had a team that could compete with Boyle?  Roster numbers for the last 10 years have been over or right at 100 kids on the sideline, this year is a little over half…So no there was no scheme to Jedi mind trick JC, we just aren’t close to being the team we where the last couple years, this is what we’ve been complaining about and the two that caused the most damage have rolled out looking for greener pastures just like I knew they would….

Do you think Salmons will get the numbers will get back to where they were, or even better?

[Hoot Gibson]

I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

A lot of the Corbin faithful caught flack on here for saying that the program was being ran into the ground by the group that took over for Haddix…..Well do you think Greer would have left if he’d had a team that could compete with Boyle?  Roster numbers for the last 10 years have been over or right at 100 kids on the sideline, this year is a little over half…So no there was no scheme to Jedi mind trick JC, we just aren’t close to being the team we where the last couple years, this is what we’ve been complaining about and the two that caused the most damage have rolled out looking for greener pastures just like I knew they would….

I think you and other Corbin fans are selling this Corbin team short. Johnson Central would have played Corbin much closer last season had injuries not decimated JC's lineup during the season.

If McCoart had not been healthy for this season's matchup, the score would have been much different Friday night. Maybe JC would have marched up and down the field in chunks of mostly 3 to 4 yards a carry and kept the margin respectable, but there is no way that they would have scored over 50 points, and the Corbin faithful would have been talking about how well Corbin's defense contained JC.

Having two other good running backs, with a very effective fullback, makes McCoart better, and he makes them better. When you start taking away pieces of the offense, it just isn't the same. JC was due some good luck after having three straight injury plagued seasons. 

Corbin's offense looked much sharper to me than it did last season. I don't believe that Boyle County will sail through the playoffs unchallenged. They are definitely the favorites, but a good game plan executed perfectly beat another "unbeatable" Boyle County team a few years ago.

[TD Hounds]

I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

A lot of the Corbin faithful caught flack on here for saying that the program was being ran into the ground by the group that took over for Haddix…..Well do you think Greer would have left if he’d had a team that could compete with Boyle?  Roster numbers for the last 10 years have been over or right at 100 kids on the sideline, this year is a little over half…So no there was no scheme to Jedi mind trick JC, we just aren’t close to being the team we where the last couple years, this is what we’ve been complaining about and the two that caused the most damage have rolled out looking for greener pastures just like I knew they would….

Do you think Salmons will get the numbers will get back to where they were, or even better?

Honestly I’m not sure, the dynamics behind Haddix following Jewel and Salmons following Greer are different, Greer left before a whole lot of people figured out how big of a turd he was….Greer and a certain 7th grade middle school head coach have been responsible for a whole lot of the problems with the roster that’s just now rearing its ugly head….Corbin’s culture is a lose confederacy of egos and ghosts that are kneecapping the Hounds future to chase its past….And until that culture can take a step back or have a coach that’s successful enough really quickly to rip it away from them all this will be more of the same…

[jamesdeane]

I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

A lot of the Corbin faithful caught flack on here for saying that the program was being ran into the ground by the group that took over for Haddix…..Well do you think Greer would have left if he’d had a team that could compete with Boyle?  Roster numbers for the last 10 years have been over or right at 100 kids on the sideline, this year is a little over half…So no there was no scheme to Jedi mind trick JC, we just aren’t close to being the team we where the last couple years, this is what we’ve been complaining about and the two that caused the most damage have rolled out looking for greener pastures just like I knew they would….

Do you think Salmons will get the numbers will get back to where they were, or even better?

Honestly I’m not sure, the dynamics behind Haddix following Jewel and Salmons following Greer are different, Greer left before a whole lot of people figured out how big of a turd he was….Greer and a certain 7th grade middle school head coach have been responsible for a whole lot of the problems with the roster that’s just now rearing its ugly head….Corbin’s culture is a lose confederacy of egos and ghosts that are kneecapping the Hounds future to chase its past….And until that culture can take a step back or have a coach that’s successful enough really quickly to rip it away from them all this will be more of the same…

I always like your take on the Corbin program. I follow Corbin but don't have the insight that you do. As far as Greer, most people figured him out before he left. The program was always about him and never about the kids. "Corbin’s culture is a lose confederacy of egos and ghosts" is a great description. The head scratcher for me in your post is "certain 7th grade middle school head coach." A former Corbin 7th grade coach? Their current one seems pretty laid back and if I'm not mistaken, he doesn't even work in the Corbin school system.

[pjdoug]

Come on guys, you are 2 of the very top posters on here. This is not like the Iran/Iraq war where both sides getting demolished was awesome lol. Corbin and JC both have to improve a ton to knock off Boyle, can't we just leave it there? Tons of people on here 100x more fun to troll than you guys. I'm not calling anyone out but initials  RAD and OSH come to mind hehehe

I'm responding, not initiating. I despise trolling myself. It adds nothing of value to any website, IMO. But as long as it is tolerated, I have no plans to be a sitting duck either. Your ranking of posters could use some work. I don't consider myself a top tier poster, and becoming one is not on my bucket list. But, if you are half right in your comment, then maybe I should take another vacation. 

You'll be able to leave early when your team's season ends . Bon Voyage!

[Old School Hound]

I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

A lot of the Corbin faithful caught flack on here for saying that the program was being ran into the ground by the group that took over for Haddix…..Well do you think Greer would have left if he’d had a team that could compete with Boyle?  Roster numbers for the last 10 years have been over or right at 100 kids on the sideline, this year is a little over half…So no there was no scheme to Jedi mind trick JC, we just aren’t close to being the team we where the last couple years, this is what we’ve been complaining about and the two that caused the most damage have rolled out looking for greener pastures just like I knew they would….

Do you think Salmons will get the numbers will get back to where they were, or even better?

Honestly I’m not sure, the dynamics behind Haddix following Jewel and Salmons following Greer are different, Greer left before a whole lot of people figured out how big of a turd he was….Greer and a certain 7th grade middle school head coach have been responsible for a whole lot of the problems with the roster that’s just now rearing its ugly head….Corbin’s culture is a lose confederacy of egos and ghosts that are kneecapping the Hounds future to chase its past….And until that culture can take a step back or have a coach that’s successful enough really quickly to rip it away from them all this will be more of the same…

That is an absolutely amazing statement right there. It is spot on, and written with a poetic touch that would make Ralph Waldo Emerson envious. Reminds me of a line in a Gordon Lightfoot classic: 

"Just like an old time movie
'Bout a ghost from a wishing well
In a castle dark or a fortress strong
With chains upon my feet
You know that ghost is me
And I will never be set free
As long as I'm a ghost, you can't see



Corbin has absolutely compromised its future by chasing its past. And those ghosts do haunt!!! 42 years... I can't think of a better explanation.
Very well done, Hound!

[Coach00]

So what all players come from wv and got approved to play

[pjdoug]

Corbin probably recruited some players while in Johnson County.lol

[Diogenes]

I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

A lot of the Corbin faithful caught flack on here for saying that the program was being ran into the ground by the group that took over for Haddix…..Well do you think Greer would have left if he’d had a team that could compete with Boyle?  Roster numbers for the last 10 years have been over or right at 100 kids on the sideline, this year is a little over half…So no there was no scheme to Jedi mind trick JC, we just aren’t close to being the team we where the last couple years, this is what we’ve been complaining about and the two that caused the most damage have rolled out looking for greener pastures just like I knew they would….

Do you think Salmons will get the numbers will get back to where they were, or even better?

Honestly I’m not sure, the dynamics behind Haddix following Jewel and Salmons following Greer are different, Greer left before a whole lot of people figured out how big of a turd he was….Greer and a certain 7th grade middle school head coach have been responsible for a whole lot of the problems with the roster that’s just now rearing its ugly head….Corbin’s culture is a lose confederacy of egos and ghosts that are kneecapping the Hounds future to chase its past….And until that culture can take a step back or have a coach that’s successful enough really quickly to rip it away from them all this will be more of the same…

That is an absolutely amazing statement right there. It is spot on, and written with a poetic touch that would make Ralph Waldo Emerson envious. Reminds me of a line in a Gordon Lightfoot classic: 

"Just like an old time movie
'Bout a ghost from a wishing well
In a castle dark or a fortress strong
With chains upon my feet
You know that ghost is me
And I will never be set free
As long as I'm a ghost, you can't see



Corbin has absolutely compromised its future by chasing its past. And those ghosts do haunt!!! 42 years... I can't think of a better explanation.
Very well done, Hound!

Just wanted to acknowledge the Canadian content and Gord love. I was privileged to see him at Massey in Toronto. It was amazing

[Old School Hound]

A lot of the Corbin faithful caught flack on here for saying that the program was being ran into the ground by the group that took over for Haddix…..Well do you think Greer would have left if he’d had a team that could compete with Boyle?  Roster numbers for the last 10 years have been over or right at 100 kids on the sideline, this year is a little over half…So no there was no scheme to Jedi mind trick JC, we just aren’t close to being the team we where the last couple years, this is what we’ve been complaining about and the two that caused the most damage have rolled out looking for greener pastures just like I knew they would….

Do you think Salmons will get the numbers will get back to where they were, or even better?

Honestly I’m not sure, the dynamics behind Haddix following Jewel and Salmons following Greer are different, Greer left before a whole lot of people figured out how big of a turd he was….Greer and a certain 7th grade middle school head coach have been responsible for a whole lot of the problems with the roster that’s just now rearing its ugly head….Corbin’s culture is a lose confederacy of egos and ghosts that are kneecapping the Hounds future to chase its past….And until that culture can take a step back or have a coach that’s successful enough really quickly to rip it away from them all this will be more of the same…

That is an absolutely amazing statement right there. It is spot on, and written with a poetic touch that would make Ralph Waldo Emerson envious. Reminds me of a line in a Gordon Lightfoot classic: 

"Just like an old time movie
'Bout a ghost from a wishing well
In a castle dark or a fortress strong
With chains upon my feet
You know that ghost is me
And I will never be set free
As long as I'm a ghost, you can't see



Corbin has absolutely compromised its future by chasing its past. And those ghosts do haunt!!! 42 years... I can't think of a better explanation.
Very well done, Hound!

Just wanted to acknowledge the Canadian content and Gord love. I was privileged to see him at Massey in Toronto. It was amazing

I hate that I was never able to see him. Loved Gordon. He was quite a poet.

[TD Hounds]

I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

A lot of the Corbin faithful caught flack on here for saying that the program was being ran into the ground by the group that took over for Haddix…..Well do you think Greer would have left if he’d had a team that could compete with Boyle?  Roster numbers for the last 10 years have been over or right at 100 kids on the sideline, this year is a little over half…So no there was no scheme to Jedi mind trick JC, we just aren’t close to being the team we where the last couple years, this is what we’ve been complaining about and the two that caused the most damage have rolled out looking for greener pastures just like I knew they would….

I think you and other Corbin fans are selling this Corbin team short. Johnson Central would have played Corbin much closer last season had injuries not decimated JC's lineup during the season.

If McCoart had not been healthy for this season's matchup, the score would have been much different Friday night. Maybe JC would have marched up and down the field in chunks of mostly 3 to 4 yards a carry and kept the margin respectable, but there is no way that they would have scored over 50 points, and the Corbin faithful would have been talking about how well Corbin's defense contained JC.

Having two other good running backs, with a very effective fullback, makes McCoart better, and he makes them better. When you start taking away pieces of the offense, it just isn't the same. JC was due some good luck after having three straight injury plagued seasons. 

Corbin's offense looked much sharper to me than it did last season. I don't believe that Boyle County will sail through the playoffs unchallenged. They are definitely the favorites, but a good game plan executed perfectly beat another "unbeatable" Boyle County team a few years ago.

I’m absolutely not selling this team short or if I came across that way I promise that wasn’t my intention Hoot…However I don’t think Corbin wins this game with the previous coaching staff, Salmons seems to be using schemes that fit the rosters capabilities instead of trying to force them into particular schemes because that’s all he knows how to coach….That being said what I was instead trying to point out was roster numbers, they’re no where near what they had been in years past, kids are being ran off by the Corbinites and this isn’t 2004 or even 1994 where parents are gonna tell a kid to just shut up and do as he’s told, when they see all the politics they’re not gonna force them to waste their time for selfish and inept coaches….Salmons maybe can right the ship but hiccups are coming and he could find himself in the same spot as another really good coach once he gets the roster numbers back, it’s what we’re becoming known for…..

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I hope this doesn't sound dumb. but, I thought about it today as I drove to work. I wonder if there is any chance that Corbin ran a semi laxed defense scheme to accelerate the game play so JC wouldn't control the clock as much and turn it into a shoot out that would potentially favor them with the plethora of offensive weapons? I remember hearing many say they thought that would probably be JC's game plan to just burn a lot of clock, just a thought I had. if so, it worked well if it wasn't for Kade's extremely rare interception that led to the onside that Corbin would of potentially won by multiple scores.

A lot of the Corbin faithful caught flack on here for saying that the program was being ran into the ground by the group that took over for Haddix…..Well do you think Greer would have left if he’d had a team that could compete with Boyle?  Roster numbers for the last 10 years have been over or right at 100 kids on the sideline, this year is a little over half…So no there was no scheme to Jedi mind trick JC, we just aren’t close to being the team we where the last couple years, this is what we’ve been complaining about and the two that caused the most damage have rolled out looking for greener pastures just like I knew they would….

Do you think Salmons will get the numbers will get back to where they were, or even better?

Honestly I’m not sure, the dynamics behind Haddix following Jewel and Salmons following Greer are different, Greer left before a whole lot of people figured out how big of a turd he was….Greer and a certain 7th grade middle school head coach have been responsible for a whole lot of the problems with the roster that’s just now rearing its ugly head….Corbin’s culture is a lose confederacy of egos and ghosts that are kneecapping the Hounds future to chase its past….And until that culture can take a step back or have a coach that’s successful enough really quickly to rip it away from them all this will be more of the same…

I always like your take on the Corbin program. I follow Corbin but don't have the insight that you do. As far as Greer, most people figured him out before he left. The program was always about him and never about the kids. "Corbin’s culture is a lose confederacy of egos and ghosts" is a great description. The head scratcher for me in your post is "certain 7th grade middle school head coach." A former Corbin 7th grade coach? Their current one seems pretty laid back and if I'm not mistaken, he doesn't even work in the Corbin school system.

Theres only been one since the last one retired because of his health (after winning multiple middle school state championships) Haven’t won one since he retired and the coach im referring to is a Corbinite he’s always been taken care of whether he’s teaching in the district or not….