Grant Co Coaching Search

**nky** · 12-22-2010, 04:51 PM

Any word on how the search is going? Thought they would have announced a coach by now since they were one of the first to have an opening

Mountain Coach · 12-23-2010, 11:31 AM

I guess Raines said no..... He was offered the job , per a Grant County board member.. I guess he declined. Thats been about 2 weeks ago

Bobcat_Dad · 12-23-2010, 05:30 PM

Mountain Coach Wrote:I guess Raines said no..... He was offered the job , per a Grant County board member.. I guess he declined. Thats been about 2 weeks ago

He did not like the work load and did not want the job. Very few districts can pay people just to coach this day and age. I think Raines was looking for a cake job but could not get that in Grant Co. and most likely will not get it anywhere.

OffensiveGuru · 12-23-2010, 09:56 PM

Grant will be hard pressed to hire a "good" coach.

**nky** · 12-23-2010, 11:37 PM

Bobcat_Dad Wrote:He did not like the work load and did not want the job. Very few districts can pay people just to coach this day and age. I think Raines was looking for a cake job but could not get that in Grant Co. and most likely will not get it anywhere.

Do any schools in KY pay a coach just to coach and earn a full living salary? most Head coaches earn between 6000-8000 and on a rare occasion over the $10K level

William Muney · 12-24-2010, 09:58 AM

nky Wrote:Do any schools in KY pay a coach just to coach and earn a full living salary? most Head coaches earn between 6000-8000 and on a rare occasion over the $10K level

Actually some do. Not many but some.

**Stardust** · 12-24-2010, 11:53 AM

William Muney Wrote:Actually some do. Not many but some.

I thought there is a cap? I'm pretty sure it's based on tenure and I have never heard of anyone's salary just for football being over $12,000.

Trenches07 · 12-24-2010, 11:58 AM

Stardust Wrote:I thought there is a cap? I'm pretty sure it's based on tenure and I have never heard of anyone's salary just for football being over $12,000.

Its a trend and it will eventually be everywhere! There are many coaches at the H.S. level across the country and theres some in Ky that only coach.

Go Eagles · 12-24-2010, 01:43 PM

Stardust Wrote:I thought there is a cap? I'm pretty sure it's based on tenure and I have never heard of anyone's salary just for football being over $12,000.

Tenure has nothing to do with football coaching salaries. There are quite a few coaches that make over 12 G's for just being a head coach.

**Stardust** · 12-24-2010, 02:09 PM

Go Eagles Wrote:Tenure has nothing to do with football coaching salaries. There are quite a few coaches that make over 12 G's for just being a head coach.

Can you give me an example, I as a HS coach in another sport would love to know where you get your facts.

**Stardust** · 12-24-2010, 02:11 PM

Trenches07 Wrote:Its a trend and it will eventually be everywhere! There are many coaches at the H.S. level across the country and theres some in Ky that only coach.

Quite a few only coach. I didn't say that. My point is unless it's someone retired, there is no way someone is pulling in a $40K salary, or enough to live on. We have a few NKY coaches that are retired, so I do know that there are "Coaches Only", but not in the sense that one can live off of a HS coaches salary!

**nky** · 12-24-2010, 02:37 PM

Because of Title IX and equity issues High School head coaches make about the same within a district. Some schools will have a tiered pay scale - Paying football, Basketball (boys and girls head coach the same), and maybe baseball/softball at one tier and the minor sports at a lower tier. So if someone is paying their head football coach $12,000 then they are also paying the girls basketball coach the same.

**Stardust** · 12-24-2010, 03:15 PM

nky Wrote:Because of Title IX and equity issues High School head coaches make about the same within a district. Some schools will have a tiered pay scale - Paying football, Basketball (boys and girls head coach the same), and maybe baseball/softball at one tier and the minor sports at a lower tier. So if someone is paying their head football coach $12,000 then they are also paying the girls basketball coach the same.

You are dead-on correct! I know coaches received stipends from Boosters, but that is not considered salary.

**nky** · 12-24-2010, 03:24 PM

Stardust Wrote:You are dead-on correct! I know coaches received stipends from Boosters, but that is not considered salary.

don't say that to loud I do believe that is illegal Confused

hh:

**Stardust** · 12-24-2010, 03:25 PM

nky Wrote:don't say that to loud I do believe that is illegalhh:

Only if you are caught! :dontthink

Go Eagles · 12-24-2010, 10:20 PM

Stardust Wrote:Can you give me an example, I as a HS coach in another sport would love to know where you get your facts.

Like I said Tenure has nothing to do with how a coach is paid...I know this first hand.

**Stardust** · 12-25-2010, 07:55 AM

Go Eagles Wrote:Like I said Tenure has nothing to do with how a coach is paid...I know this first hand.

Lol, maybe we are playing with words. Tenure on the job most certainly will top you out of what you are allowed to make. A five you coach, taking on a new school, rarely ever receives the max. As he stays and proves himself, the school all add up to the max to the coaches salary. And that I know as fact.

**nky** · 12-25-2010, 01:27 PM

William Muney Wrote:Actually some do. Not many but some.

Example Ft. Thomas Highlands (I hear they have a pretty good team)
pays the following

Football 9,021
Football Asst. 6,438
Football Asst. 6,438
Football Asst. 6,438
Football Asst. 6,438
Football Asst. 6,438
Football ‐ Equipment Manager 1,435
Football‐ Freshman 6,438

Football‐ Frosh Asst. 4,193

and

Basketball ‐ Boys 7,955
Basketball ‐ Girls 7,955
Basketball‐ Assistant Boys 3,199
Basketball‐ Assistant Girls 3,199

Coaches do not make enough to live on alone. All public school salaries for coaches are public records and anyone can find them(I found Highlands on their district website). Or you could request them from the district and they by law must release the information to you

Go Eagles · 12-25-2010, 03:36 PM

Stardust Wrote:Lol, maybe we are playing with words. Tenure on the job most certainly will top you out of what you are allowed to make. A five you coach, taking on a new school, rarely ever receives the max. As he stays and proves himself, the school all add up to the max to the coaches salary. And that I know as fact.

That maybe fact for you and your school but that is NOT the case across the state. Tenure for a state teacher is 4 years and 1 day on the job...it for job security only. Years experience is another thing.

**Stardust** · 12-25-2010, 05:04 PM

Go Eagles Wrote:That maybe fact for you and your school but that is NOT the case across the state. Tenure for a state teacher is 4 years and 1 day on the job...it for job security only. Years experience is another thing.

Tenure, as in length on the job, not a "Tenured Teacher"!

Go Eagles · 12-25-2010, 06:15 PM

Regardless...a coaches' "tenure" isn't always included in the stipend or coaching salary.

**nky** · 12-25-2010, 06:45 PM

Go Eagles Wrote:Regardless...a coaches' "tenure" isn't always included in the stipend or coaching salary.

Coaching positions is only a one year position as are all extra curricular. No such thing legally as coaching tenure. Schools have until May 15 of each year to inform a coach/sponsar if they do not want them to preform that extra duty.

Go Eagles · 12-25-2010, 10:01 PM

Not sure what your point is NKY

Shoulderblock73 · 12-27-2010, 11:18 PM

So any word on who has applied @ Grant County?

cksportsfan · 12-28-2010, 03:07 PM

nky Wrote:Because of Title IX and equity issues High School head coaches make about the same within a district. Some schools will have a tiered pay scale - Paying football, Basketball (boys and girls head coach the same), and maybe baseball/softball at one tier and the minor sports at a lower tier. So if someone is paying their head football coach $12,000 then they are also paying the girls basketball coach the same.

http://www.hardin.k12.ky.us/supt/policy/3-121.pdf

See page 4.

This is for Hardin County high schools (Central Hardin, John Hardin and North Hardin):

Boys' Basketball, Girls' Basketball and Football are all Tier I.

Head Basketball Coach (Boys ) (Girls ) 9,040
Head Football Coach 9,040
Athletic Director 5,256
Assistant Basketball Coach (Boys ) (Girls) 5,256
Assistant Football Coach ( # 1 ) 5,256
Assistant Football Coach ( # 2 ) 5,256
Junior Varsity Football Coach ( two ) 5,256
Head Soccer Coach (Boys) (Girls) 3,609
Head Softball / Baseball Coach 3,609
Head Track Coach 3,609
Head Volleyball Coach 3,609
Head Wrestling Coach 3,609
9th Grade Football Coach â Must fulfill a competitive schedule 2,628
9th Grade Basketball Coach (Boys) (Girls) Must fulfill a competitive schedule 2,628
Cross Country Coach (Boys) (Girls) 2,628
Assistant Soccer Coach (Boys) (Girls) â 25 regular participants 1,787
Assistant Softball / Baseball Coach â20 regular softball/baseball participants 1,787
Assistant Track Coach â 30 regular track participants 1,787
Assistant Volleyball Coach â 20 regular volleyball participants 1,787
Assistant Wrestling Coach â 20 regular wrestling participants 1,787
Tennis Coach 1,787
Tennis Coach (#2) 20 regular tennis participants 1,787
Golf Coach 1,787
Golf Coach (# 2) â16 regular golf participants 1,787
Head Swim Coach 1,787
9th Grade Softball / Baseball Coach- Must fulfill a competitive schedule 1,420
9th Grade Volleyball Coach â 10 regular participants and 10 games per season 1,420
Assistant Swim Coach â 20 regular swim participants 1,050
Cross Country Assistant Coach - 20 regular cross country participants 1,050

rebel 4 life · 12-29-2010, 11:05 AM

Shoulderblock73 Wrote:So any word on who has applied @ Grant County?

what about Hilton Isable

KYHSFan · 12-29-2010, 04:19 PM

Jon Resuch applied, he helped Mr. Monty Jo Lovell start the program at Grant back in the early 90's. I believe he also started the football program at Silver Grove, not sure where thats even at, just heard it. Also that they have not even started interviewing and will not until atleast next month which is only less then a week away.
Eric Herrman may have applied from what I hear. He has been an assistant under Coach Davis and under Coach Bowlin (now at EJ) when he was at Grant.

KYHSFan · 12-29-2010, 04:22 PM

Coach Dazell from Grants Middle School program was another one that people wanted him to apply because of his success for quite sometime at the middle school level. (big difference from middle to high though) Apparently he did not want to and is happy as the middle school coach.

**nky** · 12-29-2010, 06:13 PM

KYHSFan Wrote:Jon Resuch applied, he helped Mr. Monty Jo Lovell start the program at Grant back in the early 90's. I believe he also started the football program at Silver Grove, not sure where thats even at, just heard it. Also that they have not even started interviewing and will not until atleast next month which is only less then a week away.
Eric Herrman may have applied from what I hear. He has been an assistant under Coach Davis and under Coach Bowlin (now at EJ) when he was at Grant.

Silver Grove does not have a football team
Coach Resuch interesting he was also middle school coach at Summit View Middle School a few years back.

**nky** · 12-29-2010, 06:16 PM

Go Eagles Wrote:Not sure what your point is NKY

that a person can NOT make a living off of coaching any high school sports. Some districts will pay based on years experience (Boone County Schools do) but most pay a base salary with increases in salaries very limited. And coaching tenure means absolutely nothing. Extra curricular activities are all one year contracts. "tenure" means you can not be removed from the job without cause teachers can earn it in a public school (not in the privates) but that does not apply for coaches. I've been with good coaches who have been fired because the superintendent had an issue with the coach(not the principal or the athletic director). This coach had had success making third round of the playoffs but was let go