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01-12-2006, 01:18 AM
WHOS THE BEST COACHES FROM THE MOUNTAINS?:confused:
01-12-2006, 02:22 PM
Phillip Haywood -Belfry
Hillard Howard -Letcher Central
Dudley Hilton -Bell County
Shawn Hager -Sheldon Clark
Ivan McGlone -Russell
Hillard Howard -Letcher Central
Dudley Hilton -Bell County
Shawn Hager -Sheldon Clark
Ivan McGlone -Russell
01-12-2006, 09:20 PM
1. Phillip Haywood (Belfry)
2. Hilliard Howard (LCC)
3. Mike Holcomb (Breathitt)
4. Ivan McGlone
5. Mike Jackson (Pikeville)
2. Hilliard Howard (LCC)
3. Mike Holcomb (Breathitt)
4. Ivan McGlone
5. Mike Jackson (Pikeville)
01-12-2006, 09:33 PM
In no order:
Phillip Haywood
Mike Holcomb
Dudley Hilton
Ivan McGlone
Hilliard Howard
Phillip Haywood
Mike Holcomb
Dudley Hilton
Ivan McGlone
Hilliard Howard
01-12-2006, 09:41 PM
Dudley Hilton(Bell County)
Hillard Howard (LCC)
Phillip Haywood (Belfry)
Mike Holcomb(Breathitt County)
Ivan McGlone(Russell)
All 5 are GREAT hall of fame coaches IMO.
Hillard Howard (LCC)
Phillip Haywood (Belfry)
Mike Holcomb(Breathitt County)
Ivan McGlone(Russell)
All 5 are GREAT hall of fame coaches IMO.
01-12-2006, 09:45 PM
Jim Matney-JC
Dudley hilton-bell
Phillip haywood-belfry......top 3
Dudley hilton-bell
Phillip haywood-belfry......top 3
01-12-2006, 09:48 PM
In no order
Hilton
Haywood
McGlone
Matney
Holcomb
Hilton
Haywood
McGlone
Matney
Holcomb
01-13-2006, 05:50 PM
Phillip Haywood
Jim Matney
Tom Larkey
Mike Holcomb
Dudley Hilton
Jim Matney
Tom Larkey
Mike Holcomb
Dudley Hilton
01-14-2006, 12:12 AM
jim matney's good, but he's not in the top 5
01-14-2006, 01:04 AM
Phillip Haywood -Belfry
Hillard Howard -Letcher Central
Dudley Hilton -Bell County
Jim Matney- JCHS (he took a team that was dead and gave it new life)
Ivan McGlone -Russell
Hillard Howard -Letcher Central
Dudley Hilton -Bell County
Jim Matney- JCHS (he took a team that was dead and gave it new life)
Ivan McGlone -Russell
01-14-2006, 02:23 AM
you have to give Matney a shot look what he did at JCHS...the took had 1 win the year before he came. in his first season he took the 2nd worst team in the district and made them a strong contender!
01-14-2006, 04:50 AM
Superman Wrote:jim matney's good, but he's not in the top 5
You're so right.....HE IS IN THE TOP 2 ! :Second:
01-14-2006, 12:04 PM
Tough Turf Wrote:You're so right.....HE IS IN THE TOP 2 ! :Second:
I don't know about that. I believe that the unanamous top 2 would be McGlone and Haywood in no particular order. Well over 500 wins between them and what 6 state championships~ Plus over 60 years coaching combined. Plus fielding competitive teams every year no matter who they lost. Look at 2004. Mcglone losT Gross and Haywood lost Jones and Howard both and look at where both teams ended up. Belfry lost in the semi state game to the eventual state champs. And in 2004 the exact opposite happened.
Not knocking Matney because he did wonderful things at JC but give him some time to prove that he is a contender year in and year out.
01-14-2006, 05:48 PM
I thought is was who is the top five coaches in your own opinion....not the oldest top five
01-15-2006, 12:40 AM
1/2 (Alphabetically) Mike Holcomb/ Hillard Howard-3 state titles
3/4/5 Phillip Haywood/Dudley Hilton/Ivan McGlone-2 state titles
3/4/5 Phillip Haywood/Dudley Hilton/Ivan McGlone-2 state titles
01-15-2006, 08:38 AM
Tough Turf Wrote:I thought is was who is the top five coaches in your own opinion....not the oldest top five
I gave my opinion based on history. A year or two does not make a great coach. The two that I pointed out have proven themselves year in and year out. If you include Matney then you should also include Coach Wood from Morgan Co. Very new and he has done great things with the program. But I still do not think that it makes him a top 5 coach.
01-15-2006, 10:51 PM
im not saying matney isnt a good coach, but we have some pretty darn good coaches in eastern ky. I think matney is good, but i just dont think he's a top 5 coach. You cant say that he's better then Phillip haywood, Dudley Hilton, Ivan Mcglone, Hillard howard, tom larkey, or Mike Holcomb. I know you central kids like to brag on your coach, which is understandable, but i just tell it how i see it.
01-16-2006, 12:34 AM
Superman Wrote:im not saying matney isnt a good coach, but we have some pretty darn good coaches in eastern ky. I think matney is good, but i just dont think he's a top 5 coach. You cant say that he's better then Phillip haywood, Dudley Hilton, Ivan Mcglone, Hillard howard, tom larkey, or Mike Holcomb. I know you central kids like to brag on your coach, which is understandable, but i just tell it how i see it.How can you say Matney isnt a good coach:no:. He took a team that in the three previous years only won 5 games yea thet want 5-25, and he took them in his first season to gettin put out of the playoffs by a tie breaker, and in the second to the number to team in the district and hes not a good coach he is defently one of the top coachs in the state.
01-16-2006, 12:36 AM
coach david mittchell of lynn camp
01-16-2006, 12:37 AM
biggun.7.06 Wrote:How can you say Matney isnt a good coach:no:. He took a team that in the three previous years only won 5 games yea thet want 5-25, and he took them in his first season to gettin put out of the playoffs by a tie breaker, and in the second to the number to team in the district and hes not a good coach he is defently one of the top coachs in the state.
Read what you quote please. He never said he isn't a good coach. He said "im not saying matney isnt a good coach" and then continued to say, "I think matney is good"
Everyone knows Matney is good. But just as he said, there are a lot of good coaches in the state. There are 5 better Eastern Kentucky coaches than Matney at this point.
01-16-2006, 12:46 AM
Jim matney by far is in the top 3, he turned jc around from losers to gettin in the playoffs
01-16-2006, 12:48 AM
jchssideline Wrote:Jim matney by far is in the top 3, he turned jc around from losers to gettin in the playoffs
And other coaches have taken teams from the same position and won state championships. Matney is good, and has the potential to be one of the best in the state, but he still has a lot more to accomplish.
01-16-2006, 09:20 AM
Tomcat68 Wrote:And other coaches have taken teams from the same position and won state championships. Matney is good, and has the potential to be one of the best in the state, but he still has a lot more to accomplish.
I agree. He could just be a flash in the pan or could have came to the school the same time that they had some exceptional athletes. Who knows. He should be congratulated for his accomplishments but I honestly don't think he's top 5 material yet. Given some time, If he continues to do what he has, then maybe. But not this year.
01-16-2006, 01:37 PM
Coach Haywood of Belfry
01-17-2006, 07:11 PM
roadrunner Wrote:Phillip Haywood
Jim Matney
Tom Larkey
Mike Holcomb
Dudley Hilton
i agree
01-17-2006, 07:29 PM
donny daniels/Phillip Haywood/Dudley Hilton/Ivan McGlone/Mike Jackson no order
01-17-2006, 07:54 PM
ShakeandBake Wrote:donny daniels/Phillip Haywood/Dudley Hilton/Ivan McGlone/Mike Jackson no order
"Two of these things is not like the other..."
01-19-2006, 06:05 AM
1) Hillard Howard
2) Jim Matney
3) Dudley Hilton
4) Phillip Heywood
5) Mike Holcomb
I'm probably wrong...just my thoughts...
2) Jim Matney
3) Dudley Hilton
4) Phillip Heywood
5) Mike Holcomb
I'm probably wrong...just my thoughts...
01-19-2006, 07:11 PM
1. Howard
2. Haywood
3. Holcomb
4. Hilton
5. Jackson
Honarable mention
Matney,Hager,Derossett. Also I would like to see what Donny Daneils of south floyd would do at a school that actually gave a crap about football.
2. Haywood
3. Holcomb
4. Hilton
5. Jackson
Honarable mention
Matney,Hager,Derossett. Also I would like to see what Donny Daneils of south floyd would do at a school that actually gave a crap about football.
01-19-2006, 07:24 PM
There are lots of great coaches in the mountains but I'll give it a shot.
1. Phillip Haywood-Belfry: What can you say about the states 7th all time wins leader. (270-103). That is enough to make the list, but the back to back state titles pushes you to the top. His style may not be sexy, but it is effective. He plays sound defense and sticks with his philosophy. On offense you know what your gonna get. Belly, Veer, Toss, Counter, and maybe a pass once or twice. He is a preperation fanatic and sledom ever puts Belfry in a position to lose a game, but alomst always puts them in a spot to win it.
2. Mike Holcomb - Breathitt Co: Can anyone tell me how Breathitt County football was before Holcomb? I'll tell you what it was, a W on other teams schedule. This man threw the football before it was fun and popular. He is an offensive Guru. 3 state titles and one winning streak that spanned 42 games (19995-1997). That is amazing.
3. Dudley Hilton - Bell Co.: He has made the Hilton Hotel famous through-out the state. He is the 5th all time winningest coach (73-91) in Kentucky History. He won a state title at Bourbon County and as you can see as of late, they are not a football powerhouse.
4. Hillar Howard - LCC: He may not be as dominant away from Pikeville, but the man still deserves to be on here. He made Pikeville the football school it is today. He gave Pikeville a state reputation when it only had a Mountain reputation.
5. Tom Larkey - Rockcastle Co: Why is this man not on other peoples list? He took the Rockets to back to back state title games only to fall to a Kentucky Football Dynasty (Boyle Co.). He made the bear-crawl defense well known through-out the state. Two trips to the carpet get you on my list.
Others that deserve mentioning are:
Jim Matney- Johnson Central
Ken Roark - M'boro
I did not include Ivan McGlone in the list because I don't see Russell as a typical "Mountain Team". Had I included him he would had been in Larkey's spot and Larkey would had dropped one. (McGlone has 2 state titles where as Larkey has 2 runner-ups. That is easy math)
I would loe to include Shawn Hagger of Sheldon Clark to my Honarable Mention List, but he has been a head coach for 2 years. He is going to be a good one, but the one thing he needs more of to make this list is TIME in my opinion.
1. Phillip Haywood-Belfry: What can you say about the states 7th all time wins leader. (270-103). That is enough to make the list, but the back to back state titles pushes you to the top. His style may not be sexy, but it is effective. He plays sound defense and sticks with his philosophy. On offense you know what your gonna get. Belly, Veer, Toss, Counter, and maybe a pass once or twice. He is a preperation fanatic and sledom ever puts Belfry in a position to lose a game, but alomst always puts them in a spot to win it.
2. Mike Holcomb - Breathitt Co: Can anyone tell me how Breathitt County football was before Holcomb? I'll tell you what it was, a W on other teams schedule. This man threw the football before it was fun and popular. He is an offensive Guru. 3 state titles and one winning streak that spanned 42 games (19995-1997). That is amazing.
3. Dudley Hilton - Bell Co.: He has made the Hilton Hotel famous through-out the state. He is the 5th all time winningest coach (73-91) in Kentucky History. He won a state title at Bourbon County and as you can see as of late, they are not a football powerhouse.
4. Hillar Howard - LCC: He may not be as dominant away from Pikeville, but the man still deserves to be on here. He made Pikeville the football school it is today. He gave Pikeville a state reputation when it only had a Mountain reputation.
5. Tom Larkey - Rockcastle Co: Why is this man not on other peoples list? He took the Rockets to back to back state title games only to fall to a Kentucky Football Dynasty (Boyle Co.). He made the bear-crawl defense well known through-out the state. Two trips to the carpet get you on my list.
Others that deserve mentioning are:
Jim Matney- Johnson Central
Ken Roark - M'boro
I did not include Ivan McGlone in the list because I don't see Russell as a typical "Mountain Team". Had I included him he would had been in Larkey's spot and Larkey would had dropped one. (McGlone has 2 state titles where as Larkey has 2 runner-ups. That is easy math)
I would loe to include Shawn Hagger of Sheldon Clark to my Honarable Mention List, but he has been a head coach for 2 years. He is going to be a good one, but the one thing he needs more of to make this list is TIME in my opinion.
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