Capital Punishment--Yes or No . . . .

KentuckyHillBilly5321 · 01-06-2006, 11:42 PM

This has probably been asked before--but what do you think about capital punishment?

Are you in favor? Is it the right thing to do?

Honestly, I am not sure. A lot of times it seems hypocritical to me, but there are other times when it doesn't bother me a bit. What do you think?

**CatDawg** · 01-06-2006, 11:56 PM

Yes!

**Johnny Ringo** · 01-07-2006, 12:56 AM

Yes

**Batpuff** · 01-07-2006, 12:56 AM

Yes by all means!

**Tomcat68** · 01-07-2006, 01:28 AM

I would say yes, except for the fact of those terrible rare occurances when it is found out many years later from new scientific evidence that someone is cleared of a crime.

UKGIRL20 · 01-07-2006, 02:20 AM

Yes

Doc Holliday · 01-07-2006, 02:33 AM

Tomcat68 Wrote:I would say yes, except for the fact of those terrible rare occurances when it is found out many years later from new scientific evidence that someone is cleared of a crime.

then we kill the lawyer

Crossbones · 01-07-2006, 02:57 AM

Doc Holliday Wrote:then we kill the lawyer

:thumb:

**thetribe** · 01-07-2006, 03:05 AM

Yup.

**15thRegionCrazy** · 01-07-2006, 03:56 PM

Yes

Cowhunter30 · 01-07-2006, 03:58 PM

I'm not sure. Some things it would be good with, and then there is just little stupid things that it wouldn't be ok.

Horse Head · 01-07-2006, 08:52 PM

yea

**Old School** · 01-07-2006, 09:52 PM

yes

01-07-2006, 10:06 PM

Yes

**Amun-Ra** · 01-07-2006, 10:30 PM

i am all for it.

Basketballer · 01-08-2006, 02:07 AM

Yup!!!!!!!!!

The Cheem · 01-08-2006, 04:27 AM

I know this Proably sounds stupid but two wrongs dont make a right I don't agree with captial punishments.

KentuckyHillBilly5321 · 01-08-2006, 02:11 PM

The Cheem Wrote:I know this Proably sounds stupid but two wrongs dont make a right I don't agree with captial punishments.

You know--I don't think that this is a stupid statement at all. I understand the "eye for an eye" thing--but I just don't feel like the God that I believe in would believe in such hypocritical behavior.

It isn't right to kill anyone. Don't get me wrong--but there honestly have to be better ways to make an example out of the behavior that causes a person to kill someone. Or--if they are going to execute someone--they need to put it on TV one time--and it would probably eliminate a great deal of crime that is punished by capital punishment.

Old Gravey legs · 01-08-2006, 08:16 PM

So what should we do to Susan Smith?
She killed her two little childeren.
What would you do to her as a punishment?

Old Gravey legs · 01-08-2006, 08:20 PM

[QUOTE="KentuckyHillBilly5321"]You know--I don't think that this is a stupid statement at all. I understand the "eye for an eye" thing--but I just don't feel like the God that I believe in would believe in such hypocritical behavior.

Brother how many of Egypt first born son were slayed by God?
Our lord has not always been so understanding.
Next time you put salt on your maters thank ole Lots wife and all those souls in sodem and gamora.

KentuckyHillBilly5321 · 01-08-2006, 08:29 PM

Old Gravey legs Wrote:[QUOTE="KentuckyHillBilly5321"]You know--I don't think that this is a stupid statement at all. I understand the "eye for an eye" thing--but I just don't feel like the God that I believe in would believe in such hypocritical behavior.

Brother how many of Egypt first born son were slayed by God?
Our lord has not always been so understanding.
Next time you put salt on your maters thank ole Lots wife and all those souls in sodem and gamora.

I was very clear--the God that "I believe in" may not be the same one that you believe in. Also--I know that some people think that the bible is a Godly written work of literature--but I don't necessarily believe it.

If God, overall, in the 10 commandments says that "thou shall not kill" why would God turn himself into a hypocrit? There is way too much subjectivity in those statements. I just don't see the God that I believe in condoning killing with more killing. It doesn't make logical sense.

Not to mention--if God did have these beliefs--that was what--2005 years ago. Why are we so naive in thinking that God's beliefs haven't changed with the times? After all--he is in control (and I believe that)--I have a feeling that we are all puppets in his game of life. And if we try to do the right thing (even after we make a bad mistake) God will forgive us. I think it is really foolish to think that God only believes things from millions of years ago. I have a feeling that our divine being has a more of a dynamic thought process than that.

Old Gravey legs · 01-08-2006, 09:02 PM

so does that mean that anyone who kiled in war is breaking the commanment in your eye or in gods eye?

**BasketBallonlyfan** · 01-09-2006, 01:20 AM

I am for it, I firmly belive everyone in the capital should be punished....

Doc Holliday · 01-09-2006, 02:39 AM

good one

**Amun-Ra** · 01-09-2006, 02:42 AM

lol

KentuckyHillBilly5321 · 01-09-2006, 02:28 PM

As funny as it is--I think that basketballonlyfan makes a very good point.

It is almost arrogant/egotistical to think that God doesn't use situational reasoning. That is part of the reason why I feel like the Bible is a work of fiction.

**Tomcat68** · 01-09-2006, 03:21 PM

I think of it this way, everyone says a life is invaluable. So no matter how much money, time, etc., it would take to support every single person on death row, if it were to save just 1 life it would all be worth it.

Mistakes happen. People have been accussed of, and convicted of, crimes they never committed. So in a way you could think of this as putting a price on a human life. The enormous amounts of money it takes to support a person in jail is a partial reason I have heard of why they like capital punishment.

In turn, the executioner, although it may be their job, aren't they committing murder??? And if no, since of capital punishment, then if they ever executed an innocent person, wouldn't that be murder???

IMO, murder is wrong under any cir***stance. Nobody has the right to decide when someone's life should end. That's why most capital punishment cases are in the situation they are, because the accussed committed an act of murder. If it is wrong of them to committ murder, especially premeditated, then isn't it as bad or even worse for a group of people to sentence a person to death, premeditated???

**crazytaxidriver** · 01-09-2006, 10:43 PM

I think that if a person commits a crime and it's a bad enough crime to get the death penalty, then they shouldn't be able to sit in a cell for 40 years, and take up space.. I'm for capital punishment.

Although a really good movie on this subject is The Life of David Gale.. You need to watch it if you haven't seen it..

**crazytaxidriver** · 01-09-2006, 11:00 PM

KYhillbilly.. Don't take this as a bash on you or whatever, cause i can see your point in a lot of things, and since everyone feels differently well i'm goin to rebuttal your response..So what i say is in no way meant to offend you or anything.

With that said. I just can't see how you feel like the bible is a work of fiction.. You say it's hypocritical, and contradicting..

The ten commandments say thou shalt not kill. But there are parts in the bible when God has made it ok.. For instance, the david and Goliath story.. David was a man after God's own heart. He wanted nothing but to be faithful to God. and when his people came under seige, David at about 12-16 i can't remember his age, went out and killed the giant, by chopping his head off with his own sword.

You think God has decided to change with the times. Well I have to disagree with this one too.. Why should he have to change? He is almighty.. People have turned their backs on God. They no longer believe that he exists, and they no longer feel the need to abide by his rules (the Bible).

I know there are about a million other religions out there stating my god is god and all this, and that's fine, everyone isn't goin to agree and get along. That's why we have war..

But the only difference in people these days and people then, is the technology. it's a faster paced world sure. but why would God have to change? The people have changed and in doing so, completely went away from his teachings. Thinking that hey we don't need a god or something to worship we can just go about our business and be fine. and with that there have came so many other religions or cults whatever you want to call it, and people venturing off doing their own thing.

If you don't believe the bible well that's on you, and there are some versions out there that are a little messed up.. Even the King James version isn't 100% accurate, but it's the closest thing to being accurate.. But if you don't believe it just read Revelations and get you a hebrew translator thing, and actually study it for a while..

This whole middle east thing was predicted. and it goes on to tell what's goin to happen.. and i can see it happening now.. The best thing for a person to do is to sit down and study themselves, instead or relying on someone else to tell them what's goin on.

Sorry for goin on a rant here.. But this whole capital punishment thing is justified, if done right.. and if a person changes their ways while in prison then that's great. But if a murderer is in prison, then i have to ask is goin to prison really enough punishment for taking someone's life in your own hands for no reason?

Eagle Football · 01-09-2006, 11:01 PM

definately