[F.N.L.]

High school football seems to have more recruiting than college football in the present time. When I played all of our team was from within the county. What we had had coming back the next year was already there. Good, bad, talented, non-talented we played with the hand we were dealt. With Talent we were good, without talent we worked our butts off and played with more talented teams. They may have beat us but they knew they were in a dog fight. The point being is we made the best of it with what we had and we never had all these transfers mysteriously just so happening to move into the county on what was supposedly going to be a down year for us. " We got lucky boys and kid from Louisville fell out of the sky today and he runs a 4.4 40 and benches 300 lbs!" He fell right out of the sky from Louisville and landed on a football field in eastern Ky. It is funny how below average or even average kids don't mysteriously just so happen to show up 200 miles from home. The mark of a good coach is to take average talent and be competetive year in and year out. Win with average talent, be competetive with average talent. How strict is the Khsaa on these matters? Are they even looked into in eastern Ky.? Is it just a stroke of luck that a 4.4 40 kid from the city ends up in the foothills of eastern Ky.? In my opinion all head coaches should be notified by Mr.Tackett himself that such a transfer is legit.
Is eastern Ky. just too far out of the way to really even bother to check on a "out of the clear blue yonder" just so happen to show up transfer from Louisville? IMO and that's all it is THIS IS NOT LUCK. In the real world who honestly gets that lucky? It's like winning the lottery. Have you ever heard of a kid from Louisville moving into eastern Ky. who was flat out terrible and couldn't play a lick?( and you will not) When did high school football become college football? Where's the integrity? When was the standard approved that " If we don't have it, we'll go out and get it" and nothing will ever be said up in around here? A blind man could see some of these moves are not legitamate. Could it be anymore obvious in some of these situations? Are some just that lucky? If so I would like to plan a Vegas trip and I will pay their room and board, meals and all. I have named NO NAMES nor have I specificly pointed the proverbial finger at anyone to keep the integrity of this thread intact. hh::dontthink

[Poseidon]

High school football seems to have more recruiting than college football in the present time. When I played all of our team was from within the county. What we had had coming back the next year was already there. Good, bad, talented, non-talented we played with the hand we were dealt. With Talent we were good, without talent we worked our butts off and played with more talented teams. They may have beat us but they knew they were in a dog fight. The point being is we made the best of it with what we had and we never had all these transfers mysteriously just so happening to move into the county on what was supposedly going to be a down year for us. " We got lucky boys and kid from Louisville fell out of the sky today and he runs a 4.4 40 and benches 300 lbs!" He fell right out of the sky from Louisville and landed on a football field in eastern Ky. It is funny how below average or even average kids don't mysteriously just so happen to show up 200 miles from home. The mark of a good coach is to take average talent and be competetive year in and year out. Win with average talent, be competetive with average talent. How strict is the Khsaa on these matters? Are they even looked into in eastern Ky.? Is it just a stroke of luck that a 4.4 40 kid from the city ends up in the foothills of eastern Ky.? In my opinion all head coaches should be notified by Mr.Tackett himself that such a transfer is legit.
Is eastern Ky. just too far out of the way to really even bother to check on a "out of the clear blue yonder" just so happen to show up transfer from Louisville? IMO and that's all it is THIS IS NOT LUCK. In the real world who honestly gets that lucky? It's like winning the lottery. Have you ever heard of a kid from Louisville moving into eastern Ky. who was flat out terrible and couldn't play a lick?( and you will not) When did high school football become college football? Where's the integrity? When was the standard approved that " If we don't have it, we'll go out and get it" and nothing will ever be said up in around here? A blind man could see some of these moves are not legitamate. Could it be anymore obvious in some of these situations? Are some just that lucky? If so I would like to plan a Vegas trip and I will pay their room and board, meals and all. I have named NO NAMES nor have I specificly pointed the proverbial finger at anyone to keep the integrity of this thread intact. hh::dontthink

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[Ricky Bobby]

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:Cheerlead Exellent post! I agree with most of what you stated.What I find really funny is that it seems that it's the same schools year in & year out that are getting "lucky". F.T. Highlands needs to go play the Lottery, there the "luckiest" team in America. :igiveup: The KHSAA will never even look their way. Very frustrating for the schools that do it the "right way".

[Ricky Bobby]

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[nky]

:Cheerlead Excellent post! I agree with most of what you stated.What I find really funny is that it seems that it's the same schools year in & year out that are getting "lucky". F.T. Highlands needs to go play the Lottery, there the "luckiest" team in America. :igiveup: The KHSAA will never even look their way. Very frustrating for the schools that do it the "right way".

If you have evidence of wrong doing or allegations of wrong doing. REPORT IT. Just because a team competes at a high level year after year doesn't mean they are doing something illegal. Hard work, a successful youth system, and parental/community support isn't luck.

[Benchwarmer]

:Cheerlead Exellent post! I agree with most of what you stated.What I find really funny is that it seems that it's the same schools year in & year out that are getting "lucky". F.T. Highlands needs to go play the Lottery, there the "luckiest" team in America. :igiveup: The KHSAA will never even look their way. Very frustrating for the schools that do it the "right way".

I agree.

[Coachdad]

I agree.

Stop focusing on what other teams have , the more attention you pay to what "you" have the better off your own team will be.

[School Admin.]

Transfers and recruiting don't just go on in Eastern Ky. It happens everywhere and has for many years. KHSAA needs to follow their own polices or don't even address this issue, they have never be consistent with this.

[Blackwater]

The KHSAA has to get notification of a Bylaw violation. They will not deal with an anonymous call or letter. They will forward the anonymous inforamtion to the adminstrator of the school in question. I believe that any letter reporting a rule or Bylaw violation to the KHSAA must have two signatures. I might be wrong. The KHSAA leaves it to the schools to police themselves.

[French For President]

The KHSAA has to get notification of a Bylaw violation. They will not deal with an anonymous call or letter. They will forward the anonymous inforamtion to the adminstrator of the school in question. I believe that any letter reporting a rule or Bylaw violation to the KHSAA must have two signatures. I might be wrong. The KHSAA leaves it to the schools to police themselves.

WRONG You will never make me believe that. KHSAA does what they wont when they wont and they are far from being equal. If they allow indiviual schools to police themselves, then why would they spend money on attorney's to move a case from the local district court to federal court. Just saying the whole KHSAA needs revamping in the worst way.

[RoShamBo]

I actually think that is pretty much how it works. Every time a high school team gets turned in to the KHSAA it seems it is being done by a near-by school or district school or something (schools that would know of violations). I don't know if I have ever heard of the KHSAA actually looking into a investigation just off their own suspicions. I don't know about the report requiring two signatures or anything like that but it does seem that the schools are basically set up to police themselves with the KHSAA being judge, jury, and executioner. I do agree though that the KHSAA needs a overhaul.

[Benchwarmer]

Stop focusing on what other teams have , the more attention you pay to what "you" have the better off your own team will be.

OK?

[charlie22]

I actually think that is pretty much how it works. Every time a high school team gets turned in to the KHSAA it seems it is being done by a near-by school or district school or something (schools that would know of violations). I don't know if I have ever heard of the KHSAA actually looking into a investigation just off their own suspicions. I don't know about the report requiring two signatures or anything like that but it does seem that the schools are basically set up to police themselves with the KHSAA being judge, jury, and executioner. I do agree though that the KHSAA needs a overhaul.

As to the bolded, it may seem that way, but it isn't.You are right in that a lot of times the sending school does alert the KHSAA to a perceived problem and then the KHSAA investigates the matter. Which only makes sense when you think about it because the sending school would be in a much better position to know what may have precipitated the transfer. The KHSAA can't be every where, all the time.

The KHSAA does use it's staff to investigate allegations and has hired and will hire outside investigators when it deems necessary for what it's worth.


Concerning the transfer that started this thread, there are valid reasons why some strong and talented football player would leave Louisville and move to E. Ky. One simple one may be is father or mother changed jobs or got transferred to E. Ky. That does happen and unless one knows such wasn't the case, that possibility can't be summarily dismissed in favor of the "he was recruited" theory. Heck, I'd like to know why a talented football player would leave Lou, with all its media exposure, and move all the way to E.Ky. just to play football. If he was unhappy playing football at his former schools, I'd think there are other schools a lot closer than E. Ky. that he'd think he'd be happy at. All I hear about on this site is how college recruiters wrongfully neglect E. Ky and how the media types don't pay enough attention to players in E.Ky. when it comes to all state selections and providing press coverage. That would be like all those supposed kids that transfer from Cincinnati schools to play football at Highlands and other N. Ky. schools. No really talented football player from Cincinnati with a lick of sense would leave Ohio to play football in N. Ky. (which is of course the reason that it very rarely happens, and when it does happen there are background personal reasons for it happening unrelated to athletics that people don't know about).

Maybe the kid and his family moved almost totally across the state just for football, but I'd have to know a lot more facts before I'd jump to that conclusion.

[charlie22]

:Cheerlead Exellent post! I agree with most of what you stated.What I find really funny is that it seems that it's the same schools year in & year out that are getting "lucky". F.T. Highlands needs to go play the Lottery, there the "luckiest" team in America. :igiveup: The KHSAA will never even look their way. Very frustrating for the schools that do it the "right way".

Your perception about Highlands is wrong, but I like the fact that you think that way. Heck I hope the kids on the team you support think the same way. Let's hope they believe that they can't beat Highlands because Highlands has all these recruits on their team. No team is easier to beat than one that thinks it can't win. So please keep on believing. :thanks:

Do you think there was any Ky. high school football team last year that had 100% of its players that were students in the high school's feeder schools starting in the first grade? In today's transient society, I doubt there was even one Ky. high school that could honestly make that statement. People move for jobs; they move for personal reasons; they move for family reasons; they move for lots of reasons and their children move with him. I'd think it be a safe guess that every high school football team had at least one kid that didn't start in the school system as a first grader.

[nky]

As to the bolded, it may seem that way, but it isn't.You are right in that a lot of times the sending school does alert the KHSAA to a perceived problem and then the KHSAA investigates the matter. Which only makes sense when you think about it because the sending school would be in a much better position to know what may have precipitated the transfer. The KHSAA can't be every where, all the time.

The KHSAA does use it's staff to investigate allegations and has hired and will hire outside investigators when it deems necessary for what it's worth.


That would be like all those supposed kids that transfer from Cincinnati schools to play football at Highlands and other N. Ky. schools. No really talented football player from Cincinnati with a lick of sense would leave Ohio to play football in N. Ky. .

unless their going to Holy Cross:thatsfunn

[charlie22]

unless their going to Holy Cross:thatsfunn

I can't speak of players going to HC; didn't even know they had any Buckeyes on their team. I don't follow HC.

[nky]

I can't speak of players going to HC; didn't even know they had any Buckeyes on their team. I don't follow HC.

used to bus them

[cougarpride08]

Your perception about Highlands is wrong, but I like the fact that you think that way. Heck I hope the kids on the team you support think the same way. Let's hope they believe that they can't beat Highlands because Highlands has all these recruits on their team. No team is easier to beat than one that thinks it can't win. So please keep on believing. :thanks:

Do you think there was any Ky. high school football team last year that had 100% of its players that were students in the high school's feeder schools starting in the first grade? In today's transient society, I doubt there was even one Ky. high school that could honestly make that statement. People move for jobs; they move for personal reasons; they move for family reasons; they move for lots of reasons and their children move with him. I'd think it be a safe guess that every high school football team had at least one kid that didn't start in the school system as a first grader.

I am from eastern KY, and I truly believe if we get more involvement from parents and the community, get our kids to really take these sports serious because the day after your last game is not the end of the season, and use our feeder programs the right way, we will have no excuses. I think LCC is doing the feeder program right, but I really think we worry about what our score is in World of Warcraft, Halo, and quit being henpeck to your girlfriends to really take this serious. This can get you free education, and sometimes we think with the wrong brain. I hope teams look at Highlands the right way to run a program successful, and unless they have proof stop with this stupid recruiting crap.

[F.N.L.]

When a 4.4 40 kid from Louisville 'just so happens' to end up in the mountains of eastern Ky. IMO it appears a little fishy. But that is just my opinion.

[cougarpride08]

I do agree with you on that, my comment was directed toward the Highlands football program. If everyone had support for there football team like they do, and the dedication that those kids and young men do we would be a whole lot better of a football team.