Who is better Thomas Varney or Channing Fugate?

Pond creek nation · 09-05-2009, 04:34 PM

I know the last couple of seasons fugate has been unbelivable. but this season thomas varney has been absoulutly incredible. He has probably had at least 200 yards rushing every game this year and a threat on defense and special teams. Who is your pick?

Cat Daddy · 09-05-2009, 04:36 PM

This one isn't close. Channing Fugate is the best player in the mountains hands down.

**OrangenowBlue** · 09-05-2009, 04:37 PM

Both of their teams are 1-2 so I will have to stick with Channing Fugate.

Tanner Tackett #35 · 09-05-2009, 04:39 PM

Channing Fugate BY FAR! Thomas Varney is a good player, but Channing is a GREAT player!

**BlackcatAlum** · 09-05-2009, 04:39 PM

I really do hate these types of threads. The fans from both schools are going to pick their players probably. But I've seen both play and since you asked...

Varney is one of the best backs in the Mountains, while Fugate is arguably the best back in the state. Fugate has also commited to play for the University of Tennessee. He is the closest player in quite sometime to having a chance at breaking the state record for most rushing yards. He also ran for over 3000 yards last season with ease. Both are the real deal, but I'd honestly take Fugate anyday.

cat86 · 09-05-2009, 04:44 PM

Prestonsburg has played both. Varney is a great player, but there really is no contest. Fugate in a landslide. He has all the tools: great size, great speed, and really hard to bring down.

The only area where I think Varney has the edge is in heart. Fugate just seems lackadasical at times. People used to say the same thing about Tayshaun Prince at UK, and he is getting paid pretty well to play now. This may just be Fugate's style. I have seen Fugate play 3-4 times now, and it seems like when he gets up from a play, he always limps back to the huddle, hands on his hips, and looks like he is ready to topple over at any time. Of course, more often than not, he would break the next run for a huge gain. I sometimes think he plays possum...

I would love to see these two teams go head to head.

**outdoorsman43** · 09-05-2009, 05:47 PM

If we are talking about versatility, I'll take Varney. If we are talking about the better player (which we are), I'll take Fugate every time.

**phs1986** · 09-05-2009, 08:48 PM

I don't see how either can be compared to each other. Thomas runs, kicks, throws, and punts.... Fugate does what other than run? IMHO, these 2 are high school athletes who both do their jobs well on the football field. I hate these types of threads but I feel that Thomas isn't being compared with someone who does the same amount of "participation" within a game. Thomas is FAST as shown last night when he broke free of a "few" tackles and ran for 65 yards untouched even though he was being chased.... Fugate can do the same.... HOW can you compare the 2 when both are excellent ballplayers???

I feel like I'm going in circles trying to get a point across and I'm rambling but I just feel that neither young man deserves this thread.... If I see anything negative in here on either young man, I'll personally close it ASAP!! Keep it clean, discuss it in a mature manner and do NOT trash talk neither player!!!

**Stardust** · 09-05-2009, 08:57 PM

It's way to hard to judge if one player is better than another when you don't tie all factors together. Coming into the season, the college scouts chose Channing for a reason, and this is his ability to continue to do at the next level. The number of backs in the entire state that can perform at a D1 level is minimal, but I certainly think that Channing deserves the credit that he has attained. IMO, he and Simpson are on one level, and many others are striving to get to that level.

**phs1986** · 09-05-2009, 09:05 PM

Stardust Wrote:It's way to hard to judge if one player is better than another when you don't tie all factors together. Coming into the season, the college scouts chose Channing for a reason, and this is his ability to continue to do at the next level. The number of backs in the entire state that can perform at a D1 level is minimal, but I certainly think that Channing deserves the credit that he has attained. IMO, he and Simpson are on one level, and many others are striving to get to that level.

I see what your saying SD, BUT my point is that a thread such as this is pointless. What will it do for either young man to get on here and read this? Last year, Thomas was a force on the field as well BUT he was in the back shadows of Ivan. He was kind of like a "silent" force. Whether Thomas will go on to play football in college is unknown to me but I feel that if he choses to, he will be able to and he will be prepared to be versatile when and if he does. He may not run the ball (example: David Jones) but may be moved to another position as the coach deems fit. Thomas has that advantage to his benefit. Kudo's to BOTH young men but I just feel that this is NOT the type of thread that should be on the site....It could cause problems!!! Confused

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**cuppett777** · 09-05-2009, 09:34 PM

both are great backs,fugate is alot bigger,and i believe that thomas is faster, i would diff pick them both on mine team, there teams diff need each one of them...

BobcatStuckInPowell · 09-05-2009, 10:11 PM

phs1986 Wrote:I see what your saying SD, BUT my point is that a thread such as this is pointless. What will it do for either young man to get on here and read this? Last year, Thomas was a force on the field as well BUT he was in the back shadows of Ivan. He was kind of like a "silent" force. Whether Thomas will go on to play football in college is unknown to me but I feel that if he choses to, he will be able to and he will be prepared to be versatile when and if he does. He may not run the ball (example: David Jones) but may be moved to another position as the coach deems fit. Thomas has that advantage to his benefit. Kudo's to BOTH young men but I just feel that this is NOT the type of thread that should be on the site....It could cause problems!!!hh:

I agree.Good post.

Dream_Weaver · 09-05-2009, 10:31 PM

phs1986 Wrote:I see what your saying SD, BUT my point is that a thread such as this is pointless. What will it do for either young man to get on here and read this? Last year, Thomas was a force on the field as well BUT he was in the back shadows of Ivan. He was kind of like a "silent" force. Whether Thomas will go on to play football in college is unknown to me but I feel that if he choses to, he will be able to and he will be prepared to be versatile when and if he does. He may not run the ball (example: David Jones) but may be moved to another position as the coach deems fit. Thomas has that advantage to his benefit. Kudo's to BOTH young men but I just feel that this is NOT the type of thread that should be on the site....It could cause problems!!!hh:

I agree with you 1000%...threads such as this are dangerous.

**FBALL** · 09-05-2009, 10:54 PM

There is no comaparison. Anyone that thinks Varney is in the same class with Fugate is either biased or blind.

tcb · 09-05-2009, 11:00 PM

Fugate by far.

Hilbily · 09-05-2009, 11:18 PM

Bad thread any way you look at it. I mean seriously what will any member take away from this. I would like both of those young men on my team.

**Belfry0304** · 09-05-2009, 11:27 PM

I can give my opinion on this topic. But just remember if you don't agree with me I'm obviously from Belfry and friends with Thomas.

I think that Thomas is more versatile, obviously. If you want to talk about who's better, who's more dominant? It's Channing. But I think it's a whole lot easier for Fugate, he's naturally gifted with size. Size matters. Thomas has to bust it for everything he has. He's not a very big guy at all. Channing's fast, Tom's fast. They're both strong. Obviously Channing's probably stronger because he's bigger, but Thomas out-benches are whole offense line. If I'm not mistaken, last years too.

I don't think you can compare, until you put them both behind the same offensive lines. They're different players, one's a 6'3 250 (correct me if I'm wrong) back, the other's 5'11, 170.

I will say this as far as Thomas' heart. He took possibly the hardest hit I've seen since Doug Howard creamed a Prestonsburg back in the Vipperman. If Fugate took that same hit, I don't think he, or any running back in the mountains, held onto that pass.

**phs1986** · 09-06-2009, 12:20 AM

FBALL Wrote:There is no comaparison. Anyone that thinks Varney is in the same class with Fugate is either biased or blind.

FBALL... I totally disagree....BOTH boys in their own way and style are great! The post above mine makes a lot of sense. I don't like the thread, I made that known BUT I think your post is exactly what you state anyone who chose against Fugate is. Don't get me wrong, we have all got our opinions on this but your could have been much better stated than it was!!! Confused

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mister... basketball · 09-06-2009, 03:53 AM

i really think thomas is more of an athlete than just a back. channing is a natural running back and thomas is a natural athlete, when i say athlete im saying he can play more than one position on the field and be good at it. both are great players, this is not a good thread.

**Strikeout King** · 09-06-2009, 04:31 AM

who does Thomas Varney play for?

**GOREDDEVILS** · 09-06-2009, 06:43 AM

Strikeout King Wrote:who does Thomas Varney play for?

Belfry

Cougar80 · 09-06-2009, 09:55 AM

Channing Fugate enough said

**FBALL** · 09-06-2009, 10:24 AM

phs1986 Wrote:FBALL... I totally disagree....BOTH boys in their own way and style are great! The post above mine makes a lot of sense. I don't like the thread, I made that known BUT I think your post is exactly what you state anyone who chose against Fugate is. Don't get me wrong, we have all got our opinions on this but your could have been much better stated than it was!!!hh:

Sorry but I think it was worded perfectly. This is from a neutral observer who has seen both. There is no comparison.

**Poseidon** · 09-06-2009, 10:32 AM

Pond creek nation Wrote:I know the last couple of seasons fugate has been unbelivable. but this season thomas varney has been absoulutly incredible. He has probably had at least 200 yards rushing every game this year and a threat on defense and special teams. Who is your pick?

What is Varneys size? Is he on any recruiting boards in div 1A? I am sure he is a great athlete, but the games I have seen he seems undersized and while he could play college football, it would be at the NAIA level or maybe even Div II. As far as Varney being a threat on special teams, so is Fugate. Both of these kids can play, it is the size of Fugate that makes him a standout.

BoondockSaint · 09-06-2009, 10:57 AM

FBALL Wrote:Sorry but I think it was worded perfectly. This is from a neutral observer who has seen both. There is no comparison.

I agree...its not close. The thread shouldn't have even been started, because its a lose-lose situation for Varney who is in fact a great high school football player. But players that are as gifted as Fugate don't come around very often. He compares to some of the better backs that have ever played in the mountains, and the state. Varney doesn't, and I'd love to say that he does. But lets be realistic, please!

WildDawg · 09-06-2009, 11:46 AM

Fugate

oneijoe · 09-06-2009, 12:22 PM

It's actually a pretty easy answer (which is better):

Fugate (by a large margin) for the first 10-15 rushes, then Varney for the rest (and increasing progressively with # carries). Fugate has the greater natural tools, but isn't in as good of physical condition and/or with lesser stamina. That's how it looks to me right now.

Colleges pay attention to that, also. Many schools will shy away from players who tire early in games. It's guaranteed they'll do 2x the conditioning at the major college level.

**phs1986** · 09-06-2009, 01:07 PM

FBALL Wrote:Sorry but I think it was worded perfectly. This is from a neutral observer who has seen both. There is no comparison.

No, it was not worded perfectly. Sounded like a young teenager posted that one and I know you are way older than that! LOL.....

As I said earlier, we all have our opinions and you have stated yours. I have my own but once again, HATE this thread!

I'm waiting to see if Thomas is held to only 5 yards in a game this season....Thus far, he has NOT! Smile

**FBALL** · 09-06-2009, 01:12 PM

phs1986 Wrote:No, it was not worded perfectly. Sounded like a young teenager posted that one and I know you are way older than that! LOL.....

As I said earlier, we all have our opinions and you have stated yours. I have my own but once again, HATE this thread!

I'm waiting to see if Thomas is held to only 5 yards in a game this season....Thus far, he has NOT!

Sorry again but yes it was. Lets not resort to insults.

Fugate is one of the more talented players in the state. Varney is a very good high school football player but not nearly as talented as Fugate. I'm sorry if that offends anyone but that is the way I see it.

Cat Daddy · 09-06-2009, 01:23 PM

phs1986 Wrote:No, it was not worded perfectly. Sounded like a young teenager posted that one and I know you are way older than that! LOL.....

As I said earlier, we all have our opinions and you have stated yours. I have my own but once again, HATE this thread!

I'm waiting to see if Thomas is held to only 5 yards in a game this season....Thus far, he has NOT!

Channing did have five yards against Sheldon Clark but any one who knows anything about football knows that was a fluke. Channing is a beast and I am assuming since you are such a hard core Belfry fan you had a front row seat last year when he basically beat Belfry by himself in the state semi finals. Listen I am not knocking Thomas and he is an excellent athlete but in no way can he be mentioned in the same class as Channing.