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09-16-2008, 03:19 PM
Thoughts?
09-16-2008, 04:26 PM
I think it is ludacris. What have either of those teams done to prove they are deserving of being ahead of Pikeville? Not saying that it may end up being the case that they could end up in front of Pikeville at season's end, but for now they do not need to be in front of them. Pikeville's schedule is 10x as hard as AC's I'm sure, and somewhat better than Paintsville's. The Rankings however, DON'T MATTER. If the AP wants to put Allen Central and Paintsville in front of the Panthers, then more power to them. What will matter is who comes out on top in the district games, and playoffs. But congrats to both programs on their early season successes.
09-16-2008, 04:35 PM
what has pikeville done to prove they are more deserving than these two teams? All i can see is a 68-0 thrashing over the mighty mighty bobcats of betsy layne.
09-16-2008, 04:46 PM
And since when did stength of schedule matter in how good a team is. Pikeville could play the patriots and get beat 400-0 and that tells me nothing about how good they are.
09-16-2008, 05:40 PM
The combined scores from last years games can give some kind of indication. I don't want to look up the scores but I know Paintsville was 75-0. Allen Central was just as bad or worse. Granted, all teams are more closely matched this year than last, but as of now Pikeville has an edge over both. And Allen Central hasn't really been tested yet, Paintsville has played one quality opponent and was blown out. Pikeville has played two quality opponents and lost by 8 in one and were blown out in another that they committed 6+ turnovers. You can make cases for each one, but as of now I don't think the rankings are justified. You are entitled to your opinion. As the season plays out we can get a better grasp of the quality of the three.
09-16-2008, 05:57 PM
Not that big of a deal this early in the season. I say that because Pikeville will have their chance at both these clubs and well see what happens. They can prove the voters wrong. They Have AC on 9/26 and Paintsville on 10/24.
09-16-2008, 07:20 PM
I think these the rebels deserve every one of the votes they received.. They are a very strong team this year. I for one am very excited for the rebels success thus far. Good season so far rebels, keep up the good work.
09-16-2008, 07:28 PM
I think it is great that these teams are getting attention that they don't normally get (Allen Central), or haven't gotten in a long time(Paintsville). However, if these two teams had played Pikeville's schedule then their record would be the same as the Panthers, 1-2. This Friday's game between AC and Paintsville will tell a lot about how strong these two teams really are. Pikeville needs one or two of these district teams to step up and be legitimate opponents so their district will be stronger. This would make the Panthers better in the long run, and with the strength of their non-districet schedule already very high, it would help them prepare for the playoffs each year.
09-16-2008, 11:58 PM
Where is the AP poll?
09-17-2008, 12:11 AM
Both those teams should give Pikeville trouble.
09-17-2008, 12:33 AM
Panther Thunder Wrote:I think it is ludacris. What have either of those teams done to prove they are deserving of being ahead of Pikeville? Not saying that it may end up being the case that they could end up in front of Pikeville at season's end, but for now they do not need to be in front of them. Pikeville's schedule is 10x as hard as AC's I'm sure, and somewhat better than Paintsville's. The Rankings however, DON'T MATTER. If the AP wants to put Allen Central and Paintsville in front of the Panthers, then more power to them. What will matter is who comes out on top in the district games, and playoffs. But congrats to both programs on their early season successes.
Paintsville and pikecille's schedules are fairly close. They both play P-burg, JCHS and Belfry are their respective biggest opponents, but Paintsville plays Sheldon Clark and Raceland and those 2 IMO are better than Corbin and Ashland, so Lex Cath evens their schedules out.
I could care less about the rankings though. They mean nothing and I have never seen a "ranking score a touchdown! LOL
09-17-2008, 12:40 AM
pikeville will have a chance to prove that they are better then allen central and paintsville this year and i wouldnt worry about it this early cause allen central or paintsville neither one has played strong teams
09-17-2008, 02:40 AM
If I was Coach Copely (Which Im not, Im much better looking LOL!) Id be tacking a copy of the rankings up on the bulletin board just to show these boys how much the state thinks of them. If that dont get em fired up I dont know what will.
09-17-2008, 08:45 AM
True Big Blue Fan Wrote:pikeville will have a chance to prove that they are better then allen central and paintsville this year and i wouldnt worry about it this early cause allen central or paintsville neither one has played strong teams
Hey Pburg i think this guy is calling you a weak team? What do you think of that? I think Pburg is a very strong team IMO.
09-17-2008, 08:51 AM
Great job.
09-17-2008, 09:24 AM
The Guru Wrote:Paintsville and pikecille's schedules are fairly close. They both play P-burg, JCHS and Belfry are their respective biggest opponents, but Paintsville plays Sheldon Clark and Raceland and those 2 IMO are better than Corbin and Ashland, so Lex Cath evens their schedules out.
I could care less about the rankings though. They mean nothing and I have never seen a "ranking score a touchdown! LOL
Raceland and Ashland are even.
Corbin is slightly better than SC, and at worst equal.
LexCath is a top tier program.
Pikeville has an advantage in S.O.S
09-17-2008, 09:43 AM
HAIL PIKEVILLE! Wrote:If I was Coach Copely (Which Im not, Im much better looking LOL!) Id be tacking a copy of the rankings up on the bulletin board just to show these boys how much the state thinks of them. If that dont get em fired up I dont know what will.In the sport of football a Good team shouldn't have to rely on rankings to get fired up.
09-17-2008, 10:27 AM
In my opinon it looks like the Pikeville supporters are getting a little worried that two other teams in the district are finally getting some attention and much deserved respect. The past is the past, last season was last season. This season brings new coaches, players, systems etc. I think it will be interesting to see which of these 3 teams comes out on top. You should be happy Paintsville and Allen Central are making the district stronger and I think Pikeville will have their hands full this year to come out on top.
09-17-2008, 10:41 AM
tigerfan13 Wrote:In my opinon it looks like the Pikeville supporters are getting a little worried that two other teams in the district are finally getting some attention and much deserved respect. The past is the past, last season was last season. This season brings new coaches, players, systems etc. I think it will be interesting to see which of these 3 teams comes out on top. You should be happy Paintsville and Allen Central are making the district stronger and I think Pikeville will have their hands full this year to come out on top.
I doubt Pikeville is worried about their district. The only reason this is even is an issue is because this is the worst Pikeville team since I can remember. This is the worst that district has "EVER" been. These might be the worst Pikeville and Paintsville teams in the past 10 years easily just because of youth. I understand Paintsville has a new coaching change that seems to be a good move. However, I will say that Allen Central is better than they have been in the past. Overall the Class A is very week this year and when Pikeville gets in district play they will have yet another district crown.
09-17-2008, 10:50 AM
Tear Drop Wrote:I doubt Pikeville is worried about their district. The only reason this is even is an issue is because this is the worst Pikeville team since I can remember. This is the worst that district has "EVER" been. These might be the worst Pikeville and Paintsville teams in the past 10 years easily just because of youth. I understand Paintsville has a new coaching change that seems to be a good move. However, I will say that Allen Central is better than they have been in the past. Overall the Class A is very [SIZE="6"]week[/SIZE] this year and when Pikeville gets in district play they will have yet another district crown.
I believe the correction would be 'weak'. Anyway, it is no surprise that would be the response. It is typical of Pikeville fans to act as if they are better than everyone else. Just saying, going around saying the district crown is already yours when you're only in week 5 will come back to bite you in the end. From what I have seen, Pikeville got waxed by Ashland and Raceland did the same to Ashland. Raceland was ranked #1 in Class A so it should be interesting to see how the Paintsville/ Raceland game plays out. I don't think it's the worst Paintsville team in 10 years easily. I agree that Pikeville is down and that's why I think talking about a district crown is a mistake. To say that Class A is very WEAK just b/c Pikeville isn't as good as expected just isn't right.
09-17-2008, 10:54 AM
Heres your Home thread tigerfan. lol
Paintsville does look good this year and i wouldnt be suprised to see them rack up some wins.
Tigers by 4 TD's
Paintsville does look good this year and i wouldnt be suprised to see them rack up some wins.
Tigers by 4 TD's
09-17-2008, 11:08 AM
This is just another example of how rankings are a popularity contest and the rankings that are done by people are bias. They are looking at the win\loss record and not taking into effect who teams have played and how they have competed in those games, win or lose. Another example is Estill being ranked ahead of Breathitt when they have beaten no one that Breathitt would even waste their time scheduling.
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09-17-2008, 11:23 AM
tigerfan13 Wrote:I believe the correction would be 'weak'. Anyway, it is no surprise that would be the response. It is typical of Pikeville fans to act as if they are better than everyone else. Just saying, going around saying the district crown is already yours when you're only in week 5 will come back to bite you in the end. From what I have seen, Pikeville got waxed by Ashland and Raceland did the same to Ashland. Raceland was ranked #1 in Class A so it should be interesting to see how the Paintsville/ Raceland game plays out. I don't think it's the worst Paintsville team in 10 years easily. I agree that Pikeville is down and that's why I think talking about a district crown is a mistake. To say that Class A is very WEAK just b/c Pikeville isn't as good as expected just isn't right.Raceland beat Ashland in OT? Raceland is not, nor have they been #1 in A. And class A is down tremendously than past years. There is no Danville, No Newcath, and Beechwood isn't the Beechwood of old.
09-17-2008, 11:27 AM
Panther Thunder Wrote:Raceland beat Ashland in OT? Raceland is not, nor have they been #1 in A. And class A is down tremendously than past years. There is no Danville, No Newcath, and Beechwood isn't the Beechwood of old.
They were ranked above Beechwood last week. Beechwood has been good for the past 15+ years and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Ever think other teams may be starting to build programs and catch up??
09-17-2008, 11:35 AM
tigerfan13 Wrote:They were ranked above Beechwood last week. Beechwood has been good for the past 15+ years and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Ever think other teams may be starting to build programs and catch up??Class 1A
Rank-School FPV Rcd TP Pvs
1. Beechwood (18) 3-0 198 1
2. Lex. Christian (2) 3-0 181 2
3. Raceland - 2-0 154 3
4. Hazard - 2-1 120 4
5. Frankfort - 3-0 116 5
6. Bellevue - 3-0 99 6
7. Lou. Holy Cross - 2-1 70 8
8. Mayfield - 1-1 53 7
9. Fairview - 3-0 50 10
10. Williamsburg - 2-1 37 9
Where are you getting your rankings from? I don't think Beechwood would have taken over Raceland without Raceland retaining any first place votes in one week with neither team losing. Look at the Previous rankings. And the Program that is building to compete with Beechwood in class A is Lexington Christian. Mayfield is down. Pikeville is down. Raceland is above average this year. Hazard is above average. Holy Cross is down. Beechwood is more coming back to everyone's level than the rest are going up to Beechwood.
09-17-2008, 04:37 PM
FOX SPORTS Wrote:In the sport of football a Good team shouldn't have to rely on rankings to get fired up.I hate to disagree with you Fox. Every team from JR high to the NFL has used some bulletin board material at one time or another and if the team takes that as a challenge it usually makes them better.
09-17-2008, 05:01 PM
I am getting so tickled @ all of this.... it's glaringly apparent what's going on... and you know, the sun can't shine on the same dog's fanny two days runnin'
09-18-2008, 08:18 AM
Lisa Douglas Wrote:I am getting so tickled @ all of this.... it's glaringly apparent what's going on... and you know, the sun can't shine on the same dog's fanny two days runnin'
Great post!!
09-18-2008, 09:33 AM
You guys are acting like because Pikeville has lost two games right off they are equal to their fellow district opponents who have trailed them in recent years. The truth of the matter is Pikeville has played two good football team in Corbin and Ashland. Yes, Ashland isn't in their regular form as in the past but when they play at home they are a tough team to beat. I can recall numerous times where Pikeville has lost one or two games early and then came back to walk through the district. You guys are punishing Pikeville for playing good teams early on, but this will only make this youthful team better in the end. Also, you guys are acting like Paintsville and Allen Central are just very good caliber teams. Paintsville got stomped by a decent P-Burg team that was without their best running back because of injury. I understand that they scored a TD or two but if we are classifying scoring on someones second string late in the game with your first string then I think we need to re-think this somewhat. As for Allen Central I think they have a good team for them, but they will never be in the upper pack of the district. I think the only way this topic is going to be settled is by these teams strapping it up on friday and the talking will do itself by the end of four quarters.
09-18-2008, 09:50 AM
The Joker Wrote:You guys are acting like because Pikeville has lost two games right off they are equal to their fellow district opponents who have trailed them in recent years. The truth of the matter is Pikeville has played two good football team in Corbin and Ashland. Yes, Ashland isn't in their regular form as in the past but when they play at home they are a tough team to beat. I can recall numerous times where Pikeville has lost one or two games early and then came back to walk through the district. You guys are punishing Pikeville for playing good teams early on, but this will only make this youthful team better in the end. Also, you guys are acting like Paintsville and Allen Central are just very good caliber teams. Paintsville got stomped by a decent P-Burg team that was without their best running back because of injury. I understand that they scored a TD or two but if we are classifying scoring on someones second string late in the game with your first string then I think we need to re-think this somewhat. As for Allen Central I think they have a good team for them, but they will never be in the upper pack of the district. I think the only way this topic is going to be settled is by these teams strapping it up on friday and the talking will do itself by the end of four quarters.Pretty good analysis. My gut tells me that Paintsville will be better than they have been the last couple of years, and AC is much improved. However, in the end the Panthers will roll over these two opponents on their way to another district title.
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