[Brooks4Prez]

http://a11offense.com/

This could be the future of football.

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=825031

[-STAT-]

You got that right, talk about putting up huge numbers.

[Meaty]

That's crazy. What I don't understand is how all 11 players are eligible since their is supposed to be 7 on the LOS which means their will be people covered up which makes them ineligible.

Hmm, very interesting offense. If someone put that in Kentucky high school football then it would be a very long game for the opposing defense.

[PC_You_Know]

You have to read up on it. Not all 11 are eligible at the same time, 5 have to stay back, and on different plays different players go out for passes.

[thecavemaster]

That's crazy. What I don't understand is how all 11 players are eligible since their is supposed to be 7 on the LOS which means their will be people covered up which makes them ineligible.

Hmm, very interesting offense. If someone put that in Kentucky high school football then it would be a very long game for the opposing defense.

As I understand it, even the players who aren't eligible to go out for passes, can come behind the line of scrimmage for hand offs, tight screens, hitches, etc.

[OffTheHook]

Well, look what I found. lol I wasn't looking hard enough. Sry Prez...lol


Here is another link: http://www.americanfootballmonthly.c...ilm510x340.swf

[doj23]

I believe the Titans Vince Young ran a trick play out of this formation last year near the end of the season. I don't like it personally. It kind of looks like something out of arena football.

[Meaty]

Oh I understand now. The receivers mix up which ones are on the line which makes them covered up and ineligible. This causes the defense to put a man on EVERY position.

Defense has to really cover the whole field. Literally. I understand it now.

[15thRegionSlamaBamma]

South Carolina runs this formation a couple of time per game. The ole ball coach always knows what hes doing. :-)

[DEVILOLOGIST]

This is amazing, i looked at it at first and said-- This cannot be done... you can not have all those guys elligible.. then I started looking at the plays and it is very simple. Everyone can go out on a run play, everyone can run down field on a pitch or pass behind the line of scrimmage. This would make a defense match evry position man for man and have to cover every down. This would make it hard for any defense to match with. Your defens would have to be smart and be able to figure out who is elligible every snap of the ball. This gives the defense no time to adjust or scheme. They would do good just to stay man to man.. Interesting formation.. I may work on this this year. We already run the pistol offense, along with the ole- Wing-T as the high school does. This could be intersting.

[Brooks4Prez]

Well, look what I found. lol I wasn't looking hard enough. Sry Prez...lol


Here is another link: http://www.americanfootballmonthly.c...ilm510x340.swf

That's alright.

[devil58]

It really doesn't look much different than the Franklin system...There are a lot of sets in that system too where there is 1 back and the entire field is spread...Defensive coordinators will devise schemes that slow it down if not stop it just like they do every other system that comes around...

Bottom line, no matter what you run you have to have the athletes to ecxecute it year in and year out...IMO, MOST high school teams do not consistently have the athletes to run these "hybrid" systems...

On that video, they had 5 offensive series in the first half and scored on 3...We see that a lot out of conventional offenses...

Just another fast break football offense...They are fun to watch but, like I said, they aren't practical for most high school teams...IMO

[Meaty]

A team would have to have a TON of skill players and QB's to run this offense. I bet the offensive lineman on the sidelines hate this formation.

[Brooks4Prez]

A team would have to have a TON of skill players and QB's to run this offense. I bet the offensive lineman on the sidelines hate this formation.

That's what I was thinking. As an offensive lineman I would hope that we wouldn't run this formation very much.

[PC_You_Know]

From reading the website and looking at this coaches diet plan and everything he asks of his players, I really don't think there are many linemen at all on that team.

[Belfry0304]

You could run the most hellacious screen plays with this.

Belfry couldn't run it, we have too many o-line types, not enough recievers.

[Revelations of Mutt]

Looks like Mummy Ball to me. It would lead to a lot of entertaining losses.

The ball would be very easy to see out of the shotgun snap. It does not make much difference who runs the ball if the defense see it early. The defense would beat the ball carrier to the line of scrimmage. It is a simple philosophy of see the ball and seek it.

The QB would have very little time to react against an aggressive rush with no upfront blocking. I would have my defenders plaster the QB on every play whether he had the ball or not. The late hit penalties would pay off handsomely after a quarter or so unless the QB was avery special type player. With such little time most, receivers could not get more than 4 to 6 yards off the line of scrimmage before the passer was running for his life. This would lead to a lot of rushed passes and turnovers.

It would also lead to lot of receivers getting crushed by backers and safeties that would simply back off a few yards and tee off. I would give up the short pass every time for an opportunity to separate a receivers head from his body. Again resulting in lots of mistakes and turnovers. After a quarter or so most receivers would be hearing foot steps or standing on the sidelines.

Without a very smart, fleet footed, highly composed QB with a better than average arm and 7 or 8 quick kids to throw the ball to, this offense would be easy to defend.

With enough quickness and a good QB it could be effective against poor and average teams. See Hawaii last season.

[Hilbily]

I now live in SanDiego and alot of the coaches here use it. Seems effective in highschool only. The young players out here had a hard time adjusting to the waves of threats. A seasoned defense that is also very fast has not got much to worry about. The Oceanside Pirates shut down defending champs Carlsbad Bears because they were that defense. Carlsbad had like a thirty game win streak and they used it alot.

[Brooks4Prez]

South Carolina runs this formation a couple of time per game. The ole ball coach always knows what hes doing. :-)

But when Spurrier runs it he simply puts his two Offensive Tackles out wide. I don't know what he calls it at USC but it was called the "Gator" formation at Georgia. In the A11 offense there are three wide recievers out wide and instead of two guards, one on each side of the center, there are two more recievers/ tight ends.

[FBALL]

I'm underwhelmed by it. You better have a "Vince Young" at the QB spot. A quick defense with different blitz packages would cause all kinds of problems.

[VHSL-helper]

Been keeping up with this on a NC board...
It's a "scrimage kick formation", but it's being used as a regular offensive formation. There's a loophole is in the NHFS rules - the "skf" isn't specifically limited to actually kicking the ball or to 3rd or 4th down... looks like that will be changed next Spring.

The head NC rules guy has deemed this to be a move that gives the O an unfair advantage, so the refs have been instructed to flag it as an "unsportsman" on the coach.

[RedSeal]

Some teams have run this formation before!

[flash2]

I don't think I would like only having 3 down linemen, I know there are 6 receivers to chose from but it just doesn't seem like enough protection.

[The Galloping Ghost]

I heard that 2 Kentucky teams were using it. Does anyone know who?

[Brooks4Prez]

I don't think I would like only having 3 down linemen, I know there are 6 receivers to chose from but it just doesn't seem like enough protection.

Who do you need protection from if all 11 guys on defense have to cover somebody?