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Let's Discuss Artificial Intelligence
#1
Artificial intelligence (AI) - how are you using it, or if you are not using it, are you crazy, or do you just enjoy doing everything the hard way? I use AI for something every day and will continue to use it until I am no longer able. I will concede that AI is far from perfect and using it can be very frustrating. So, why do I use it so much, you might ask? Well, I use AI as a force multiplier for my brain and to save more and more time as I become better at writing prompts. (A prompt can be a question that you ask an AI, or it can be a very detailed set of instructions about a task that you want AI to accomplish.)

I will be discussing different ways that I am using AI in this thread and I encourage you to share your experience. If you have never given AI a try, I encourage you to do so. I do not consider myself an AI expert I work with a growing number of coworkers who are experts in the field. I am also using AI more each day in the office, but I know almost nothing about training AI models (large language models or LLMs). I consider people who train LLMs and design hardware to run the models to be experts in the field. I am just a consumer of the technology.

I will start out describing some of the ways that I have been using AI.

1. Cooking - AIs are great at creating recipes on the fly. I feed it a list of ingredients that I have on hand, the equipment that I have available, etc., and ask it to suggest recipes. My wife uses an easy recipe for Red Beans and Rice that I had an AI generate and it has become one of my favorite meals. It is also great for suggesting substitutions for ingredients that you don't have, for converting measurements or scaling recipes up or down to match the number of servings that you want, and for giving instructions for alternative cooking methods. For example, I have an outside Ninja Woodfire Grill, and I can give an AI the model information and get detailed instructions for cooking a dish using my grill.

2. Purchasing advice - AIs are great at taking your description of a product that you are considering buying, generating pros and cons of the best options that meet your requirements and budget, and making recommendations about what you should buy.

3. Internet searches - I have almost stopped using web search engines like Google because most of them are paid to place certain results near the top of the search results. A well written prompt can give you an ad-free list of results, so that you don't have to read through a bunch of sales pitches to find the information that you need.

4. Software development - I am using AI to build a high school football team ranking system similar to the Massey, Sagarin, and CalPreps rankings. I am writing it using a programming language called Python, which I have never used before. I started yesterday afternoon and I am hoping to have something useful by Monday. It will probably take a few weeks to finish work on the project, with most of the time spent configuring the imports of the football scores from 2023, 2024, and 2025 for the states bordering Kentucky. The 2023 scores will be used to test the accuracy of predictions of the 2024 games, so that they can be prepared to the actual outcomes. I will adjust the model based on the test results for the 2024 season to optimize the application for ranking and predicting game scores for the 2025 season.

Early in each season, scores from the previous season are used as inputs for computing ranks, and those results are weighted less as the results for the current season become available. I am using a specialized LLM named Grok Code Fast for the rankings project. The LLM was created by one of Elon Musk's companies. I have tried other LLMs for coding and I subscribe to three LLMs, including Grok, but I like Grok best for coding.

For most people, free LLMs will meet their needs. There are some limits to how many prompts you can submit in a day, and free LLMs are often slower than paid subscriptions, but you will save lots of work and time using free LLMs over not using them. Also, there are many apps that allow you to use LLMs on smartphones, including voice interfaces.

Please share how you use AI. If you don't use AI but are interested in trying it, please post any questions that you have about getting started.
#2
I am completely ignorant on AI and would not even know where or how to begin using it.  I just feel more comfortable thinking for myself because  dementia runs in my family, and I feel that the more I think for myself, the better off I will be in the future.  To me,the brain is like a muscle.  The more you use it, the stronger it becomes.  The less you use it, the weaker it becomes.  That may be a totally ignorant statement, but that is how I feel.  As far as my ignorance of AI, it may not even cause you to use your brain less.  I honestly don't know because I know nothing about it.
#3
I try not using AI. I will use Chatgpt on occasion at work when I have trouble with finding the proper wording for my paperwork. Otherwise, I try avoiding using AI.
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#4
(08-31-2025, 08:56 AM)Westside Wrote: I am completely ignorant on AI and would not even know where or how to begin using it.  I just feel more comfortable thinking for myself because  dementia runs in my family, and I feel that the more I think for myself, the better off I will be in the future.  To me,the brain is like a muscle.  The more you use it, the stronger it becomes.  The less you use it, the weaker it becomes.  That may be a totally ignorant statement, but that is how I feel.  As far as my ignorance of AI, it may not even cause you to use your brain less.  I honestly don't know because I know nothing about it.
Trust me, you will probably use your brain more using an AI than not using it. Getting the full benefit of an AI requires you to write logical prompts and then evaluate the AI's response and then write follow up prompts to provide more details or explain mistakes that the AI might make. Once you get some practice using an AI, you start to see things that you can do with it that would take too much effort and time to do on your own. The AI is just a very useful tool. It doesn't replace your own thinking, it just lets you get more done with your thoughts. 

A good analogy is an e-bike with a torque sensor. The harder you peddle, the more power the motor delivers to your wheels, and the faster you move. You can let the e-bike provide all of the power, but the bike normally prevents you from reaching its top speed if you don't pedal any and the battery will die quicker without your help.
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#5
(08-31-2025, 09:20 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-31-2025, 08:56 AM)Westside Wrote: I am completely ignorant on AI and would not even know where or how to begin using it.  I just feel more comfortable thinking for myself because  dementia runs in my family, and I feel that the more I think for myself, the better off I will be in the future.  To me,the brain is like a muscle.  The more you use it, the stronger it becomes.  The less you use it, the weaker it becomes.  That may be a totally ignorant statement, but that is how I feel.  As far as my ignorance of AI, it may not even cause you to use your brain less.  I honestly don't know because I know nothing about it.
Trust me, you will probably use your brain more using an AI than not using it. Getting the full benefit of an AI requires you to write logical prompts and then evaluate the AI's response and then write follow up prompts to provide more details or explain mistakes that the AI might make. Once you get some practice using an AI, you start to see things that you can do with it that would take too much effort and time to do on your own. The AI is just a very useful tool. It doesn't replace your own thinking, it just lets you get more done with your thoughts. 

A good analogy is an e-bike with a torque sensor. The harder you peddle, the more power the motor delivers to your wheels, and the faster you move. You can let the e-bike provide all of the power, but the bike normally prevents you from reaching it's to speed if you don't pedal any and the battery will die quicker without your help.

Hoot, you have watched the movie Terminator 2, right?
#6
(08-31-2025, 09:22 AM)Westside Wrote:
(08-31-2025, 09:20 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-31-2025, 08:56 AM)Westside Wrote: I am completely ignorant on AI and would not even know where or how to begin using it.  I just feel more comfortable thinking for myself because  dementia runs in my family, and I feel that the more I think for myself, the better off I will be in the future.  To me,the brain is like a muscle.  The more you use it, the stronger it becomes.  The less you use it, the weaker it becomes.  That may be a totally ignorant statement, but that is how I feel.  As far as my ignorance of AI, it may not even cause you to use your brain less.  I honestly don't know because I know nothing about it.
Trust me, you will probably use your brain more using an AI than not using it. Getting the full benefit of an AI requires you to write logical prompts and then evaluate the AI's response and then write follow up prompts to provide more details or explain mistakes that the AI might make. Once you get some practice using an AI, you start to see things that you can do with it that would take too much effort and time to do on your own. The AI is just a very useful tool. It doesn't replace your own thinking, it just lets you get more done with your thoughts. 

A good analogy is an e-bike with a torque sensor. The harder you peddle, the more power the motor delivers to your wheels, and the faster you move. You can let the e-bike provide all of the power, but the bike normally prevents you from reaching it's to speed if you don't pedal any and the battery will die quicker without your help.

Hoot, you have watched the movie Terminator 2, right?
That's our future, but only if we allow the government to create a monopoly on all of the most advanced technology, which it will do if we allow it to happen. The fear mongering by our own government over AI has already begun.

There will be more and more calls to regulate AI and restrict its use by individuals and private companies to provide safety and security to Americans and to protect our jobs. In fact, our government's primary interest is in weaponizing AI technology to grab more power for the ruling class. The quest for power has been job one for governments for millennia, and that will not likely ever change.

Yet, a majority of Americans will agree with the government's efforts to restrict our own use of AI, while it secretly uses the most advanced technology to advance its own political agendas and to strip us off our liberty. Propaganda works, and it will work even better with the help of AI agents.
#7
(08-31-2025, 09:02 AM)Jarons Wrote: I try not using AI. I will use Chatgpt on occasion at work when I have trouble with finding the proper wording for my paperwork.  Otherwise, I try avoiding using AI.
That's your choice, but most of the best jobs in the future will be taken by those who are able to master the application of AI and those who resist using it will be left at a competitive disadvantage, IMO.
#8
AI is interesting.  I am just completely ignorant of it.  I did see an interview with Elon Musk where he stated that AI is about 10 years away from possible having the ability to take over the human race in a hostile manner.  I am paraphrasing of course.
#9
(08-31-2025, 03:16 PM)Westside Wrote: AI is interesting.  I am just completely ignorant of it.  I did see an interview with Elon Musk where he stated that AI is about 10 years away from possible having the ability to take over the human race in a hostile manner.  I am paraphrasing of course.
That may be true, but with the current state of technology, AI models do not actually think, they mimic thinking and do it really fast. So far, almost all I have done on my football ranker project is to give Grok Code Fast the project requirements, test the code by trying to run it, and then posting any error messages that I get or problems that I see with the results.

The AI is having trouble automatically generating a list of Kentucky teams and scores, so I am going to provide it a list of teams and team IDs used by the Riehard's KHSAA scoreboard website by creating and then uploading an Excel spreadsheet to the AI. I will also give it a description of where the team's class, nickname, location, etc. appear each team's page.

I will gradually do the same thing for each of the 8 states that border Kentucky so that I can rank teams in a 9-state area for including out-of-state games the Kentucky rankings. By the end of 2025, I will be ready to import the 2026 team names and IDs so that I can begin ranking teams in Week 1 of the 2026 season.

I like to cook and enjoy eating good food even more, so using AI to generate recipes was my main gateway into AI use. I can ask AI to suggest spicy Indonesian chicken recipes, and I will have as many recipes as I want in less than a minute. I can then request versions of the recipes using sous-vide, Instapot, crock pot, gas range, oven, microwave, etc., and a few seconds later, AI creates the customized directions. Recipe creation is a simple application of AI, but it involves the same basic steps as more complex applications.

You can also ask AI to teach you how to use it effectively. AI can tutor you on any subject at s basic to pHD expert level and it will present the tutorials on the grade level that you specify. The technology already exists for AI to produce video tutorials, but the barrier for that is the cost of AI "tokens" to produce the videos. It requires a lot of power and computer hardware to create long videos, and that feature does not come with free versions of AI.

Generating images is also easy to do with AI programs. Here is a link to an image that I just created with Grok showing Doc Brown about to leave Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, 65 million years in the past. The depiction of Mao is not very good, but Hitler, Stalin, and Doc Brown are easily recognizable.

https://assets.grok.com/users/19182a6a-0.../image.jpg
#10
Our university is starting to incorporate AI into its Quality Enhancement  Plan.  Glad I'm closer to retirement than a newbie. Scary, scary shit.


I just asked " Is AI dangerous to the human race?"

AI Answer: 

Yes, AI poses significant dangers to humanity, ranging from current threats like amplifying disinformation and bias to potential future risks of job obsolescence, misuse for cyberattacks, and even existential threats from misaligned advanced AI systems that could destabilize global security or pose an "extinction-level" threat. While AI offers benefits, these risks necessitate urgent regulatory intervention and responsible integration into human-centered systems to manage its challenges effectively.


Current Dangers:
Misinformation and Social Manipulation:
.
AI can be used to create convincing fake content, spread disinformation, and manipulate public opinion, leading to distorted views of reality.
Bias and Discrimination:
.
AI systems can perpetuate existing human biases present in their training data, leading to discriminatory treatment in various applications.
Security Threats:
.
AI can enhance cyberattacks and be used in the real-time synthesis of voices for convincing phone scams.
Privacy Concerns:
.
The large-scale collection and use of data for AI training raise significant privacy risks and can involve improper disclosure of sensitive information.
Human Labor Displacement:
.
AI automation could render human labor increasingly obsolete, leading to economic disruption and societal challenges.

Potential Future Dangers:
Misalignment with Human Values:

Advanced AI systems, particularly those approaching Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), could become misaligned with human goals, leading to catastrophic consequences.
Loss of Control:

There are concerns that humans could lose control of highly advanced AI systems, similar to how the introduction of nuclear weapons destabilized global security.
Existential Risk:

Some experts warn that advanced AI could pose an "extinction-level threat" to the human species, potentially through misaligned goals or unintended catastrophic accidents.
Weaponization:

Advanced AI could be weaponized to create enhanced pathogens or other WMD-scale tools, leading to devastating global security risks.
Addressing the Risks:

Regulation:
Experts call for dramatic new regulatory safeguards, including new AI agencies and limits on computing power for training AI models, to confront these threats.
Responsible Development:

There is a clear need to integrate AI into human-centered systems and use it responsibly to harness its benefits while managing its challenges.
Intervention:

The U.S. government must intervene to confront the risks, as time is running out to avert disaster, according to a commissioned report by the State Department, as reported by CNN.



There is ZERO doubt in my mind that AI will eventually erase and replace human beings on the planet. If humans don't destropy the planet first by turning us intp a greenhouse like Venus, or if a comet doesn't get us first, AI will come to own the planet. How long will it take? No idea. But I would say if you could take a rtime machine and see into the future, 500- 1,000 years from now humans will have been replaced by machines.  So, yeah, go right ahead. Get to know your planet's future masters.
#11
(08-31-2025, 04:37 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: Our university is starting to incorporate AI into its Quality Enhancement  Plan.  Glad I'm closer to retirement than a newbie. Scary, scary shit.


I just asked " Is AI dangerous to the human race?"

AI Answer: 

Yes, AI poses significant dangers to humanity, ranging from current threats like amplifying disinformation and bias to potential future risks of job obsolescence, misuse for cyberattacks, and even existential threats from misaligned advanced AI systems that could destabilize global security or pose an "extinction-level" threat. While AI offers benefits, these risks necessitate urgent regulatory intervention and responsible integration into human-centered systems to manage its challenges effectively.


Current Dangers:
Misinformation and Social Manipulation:
.
AI can be used to create convincing fake content, spread disinformation, and manipulate public opinion, leading to distorted views of reality.
Bias and Discrimination:
.
AI systems can perpetuate existing human biases present in their training data, leading to discriminatory treatment in various applications.
Security Threats:
.
AI can enhance cyberattacks and be used in the real-time synthesis of voices for convincing phone scams.
Privacy Concerns:
.
The large-scale collection and use of data for AI training raise significant privacy risks and can involve improper disclosure of sensitive information.
Human Labor Displacement:
.
AI automation could render human labor increasingly obsolete, leading to economic disruption and societal challenges.
Potential Future Dangers:
Misalignment with Human Values:
Advanced AI systems, particularly those approaching Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), could become misaligned with human goals, leading to catastrophic consequences.
Loss of Control:
There are concerns that humans could lose control of highly advanced AI systems, similar to how the introduction of nuclear weapons destabilized global security.
Existential Risk:
Some experts warn that advanced AI could pose an "extinction-level threat" to the human species, potentially through misaligned goals or unintended catastrophic accidents.
Weaponization:
Advanced AI could be weaponized to create enhanced pathogens or other WMD-scale tools, leading to devastating global security risks.
Addressing the Risks:
Regulation:
Experts call for dramatic new regulatory safeguards, including new AI agencies and limits on computing power for training AI models, to confront these threats.
Responsible Development:
There is a clear need to integrate AI into human-centered systems and use it responsibly to harness its benefits while managing its challenges.
Intervention:
The U.S. government must intervene to confront the risks, as time is running out to avert disaster, according to a commissioned report by the State Department, as reported by CNN.
I don't want to turn this into a politics thread, but unfortunately, certain elements of our government are already attempting to put their thumbs on the scale to fear monger voters into supporting more regulation on AI applications. ChatGPT 5 is already heavily censored through government pressure, and it is very biased in its political opinions, if you go down that road with it. That is why I prefer Grok. Musk has been accused of influencing Grok with his personal opinions, but Grok is far less censored than most, if not all, other AI applications. I doubt that I could have generated an image with realistic depictions of Hitler and Stalin using ChatGPT. Censorship and granting our government a monopoly over advanced AI models is the real threat posed by AI.

I will never understand why some people willingly repeat government propaganda ad nauseum. The genie is out of the bottle and government attempts to censor it will probably fail in the end, because it is becoming increasingly feasible to train your own LLM and run it locally on a computer not connected to the internet. Besides, all it takes is one billionaire with a conscience to thwart a government AI monopoly. The U.S. government will waste billions, and maybe trillions to create and maintain a monopoly in this country. The same anti-Second Amendment nitwits that constantly clamor for more government gun control will continue to clamor for government AI regulations to tighten their grip on power.
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#12
I'm terrible with technology, I even still struggle to do some things on this BGR site.  So I guess you know where I'm going with this  Smile I don’t really know anything about AI.

Hoot I really like the idea about using AI for cooking recipes. Because man, I really like to eat and can really put the food away. With squirrel season now in and deer season shortly coming up, I'm always looking for new recipes.  I might use AI to come up with some new wild game recipes. 

I think I might use AI a little. When I'm on Google and type in a question, is it AI that provides a response to the question?

I ask that because I type in alot of fishing related questions.  I've noticed here of late I get more information by asking questions than what I used to.

For example, the other day I asked about Walleye fishing in Paintsville Lake.  It was unreal, the amount of Walleye info I received from Paintsville Lake. Along with fishing at Paintsville Lake in general.  I had no idea there was that much info out there about Paintsville Lake Lol

So my point is, maybe I'm using AI more than I realize.  Like I mentioned, I suck at technology! If there's ever anyone that's using something that doesn't realize they're using it, in the world of technology, that would be me  Big Grin
#13
(08-31-2025, 04:46 PM)King Kong Wrote: I'm terrible with technology, I even still struggle to do some things on this BGR site.  So I guess you know where I'm going with this  Smile I don’t really know anything about AI.

Hoot I really like the idea about using AI for cooking recipes. Because man, I really like to eat and can really put the food away. With squirrel season now in and deer season shortly coming up, I'm always looking for new recipes.  I might use AI to come up with some new wild game recipes. 

I think I might use AI a little. When I'm on Google and type in a question, is it AI that provides a response to the question?

I ask that because I type in alot of fishing related questions.  I've noticed here of late I get more information by asking questions than what I used to.

For example, the other day I asked about Walleye fishing in Paintsville Lake.  It was unreal, the amount of Walleye info I received from Paintsville Lake. Along with fishing at Paintsville Lake in general.  I had no idea there was that much info out there about Paintsville Lake Lol

So my point is, maybe I'm using AI more than I realize.  Like I mentioned, I suck at technology! If there's ever anyone that's using something that doesn't realize they're using it, in the world of technology, that would be me  Big Grin
Yes, Google uses AI in the Chrome browser, if I am not mistaken. Edge uses a different AI for Bing, and I assume that Firefox and Opera are also using some version of AI. I love walleye - eating it, I have never fished for it. It may be my favorite fish. Culvers restaurants used to have walleye sandwiches on their menu year round. Now they only have it for a few weeks in the spring, but they have a decent cod filet sandwich all year. I ate a lot of walleye sandwiches when I lived in the Indianapolis area and walley was a regular menu item.

I believe that you have access to a free version of Grok if you have an X subscription. You can access ChatGPT 5 through the following link: https://chatgpt.com/.

Other AI links:

Perplexity: https://playground.perplexity.ai/
Deepseek (Chinese, I have never used it before, but it is highly rated): https://www.deepseek.com/en

I suggest starting out with ChatGPT or Grok. For example, try asking each AI for walleye fishing advice. Here is an example prompt:

I recently became interested in fishing for walleye in Paintsville Lake, which is located near Paintsville, KY. My results so far have been disappointing. Please provide detailed, expert-level advice on fishing gear, lures, bait, methods and best season and time to fish for walleye in eastern Kentucky. Also, please recommend other reasonably nearby locations (1 to 3 hours from Paintsville), where the prospects for successful walleye fishing trips are most promising.

Since you have some experience fishing for walleye, the above prompt will give you enough information to evaluate how good AI may be at giving fishing advice.
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#14
(08-31-2025, 05:22 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-31-2025, 04:46 PM)King Kong Wrote: I'm terrible with technology, I even still struggle to do some things on this BGR site.  So I guess you know where I'm going with this  Smile I don’t really know anything about AI.

Hoot I really like the idea about using AI for cooking recipes. Because man, I really like to eat and can really put the food away. With squirrel season now in and deer season shortly coming up, I'm always looking for new recipes.  I might use AI to come up with some new wild game recipes. 

I think I might use AI a little. When I'm on Google and type in a question, is it AI that provides a response to the question?

I ask that because I type in alot of fishing related questions.  I've noticed here of late I get more information by asking questions than what I used to.

For example, the other day I asked about Walleye fishing in Paintsville Lake.  It was unreal, the amount of Walleye info I received from Paintsville Lake. Along with fishing at Paintsville Lake in general.  I had no idea there was that much info out there about Paintsville Lake Lol

So my point is, maybe I'm using AI more than I realize.  Like I mentioned, I suck at technology! If there's ever anyone that's using something that doesn't realize they're using it, in the world of technology, that would be me  Big Grin
Yes, Google uses AI in the Chrome browser, if I am not mistaken. Edge uses a different AI for Bing, and I assume that Firefox and Opera are also using some version of AI. I love walleye - eating it, I have never fished for it. It may be my favorite fish. Culvers restaurants used to have walleye sandwiches on their menu year round. Now they only have it for a few weeks in the spring, but they have a decent cod filet sandwich all year. I ate a lot of walleye sandwiches when I lived in the Indianapolis area and walley was a regular menu item.

I believe that you have access to a free version of Grok if you have an X subscription. You can access ChatGPT 5 through the following link: https://chatgpt.com/.

Other AI links:

Perplexity: https://playground.perplexity.ai/
Deepseek (Chinese, I have never used it before, but it is highly rated): https://www.deepseek.com/en

I suggest starting out with ChatGPT or Grok. For example, try asking each AI for walleye fishing advice. Here is an example prompt:

I recently became interested in fishing for walleye in Paintsville Lake, which is located near Paintsville, KY. My results so far have been disappointing. Please provide detailed, expert-level advice on fishing gear, lures, bait, methods and best season and time to fish for walleye in eastern Kentucky. Also, please recommend other reasonably nearby locations (1 to 3 hours from Paintsville), where the prospects for successful walleye fishing trips are most promising.

Since you have some experience fishing for walleye, the above prompt will give you enough information to evaluate how good AI may be at giving fishing advice.
Thanks Hoot!  I'll have my wife and son check into your suggestions for me. They're both pretty good with technology.  That's why I thought I was maybe using AI and didn't know it. They set up everything for me on my phone and computer. Thinking they mighta already set me up with some type of AI device.
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#15
(08-31-2025, 06:57 PM)King Kong Wrote:
(08-31-2025, 05:22 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-31-2025, 04:46 PM)King Kong Wrote: I'm terrible with technology, I even still struggle to do some things on this BGR site.  So I guess you know where I'm going with this  Smile I don’t really know anything about AI.

Hoot I really like the idea about using AI for cooking recipes. Because man, I really like to eat and can really put the food away. With squirrel season now in and deer season shortly coming up, I'm always looking for new recipes.  I might use AI to come up with some new wild game recipes. 

I think I might use AI a little. When I'm on Google and type in a question, is it AI that provides a response to the question?

I ask that because I type in alot of fishing related questions.  I've noticed here of late I get more information by asking questions than what I used to.

For example, the other day I asked about Walleye fishing in Paintsville Lake.  It was unreal, the amount of Walleye info I received from Paintsville Lake. Along with fishing at Paintsville Lake in general.  I had no idea there was that much info out there about Paintsville Lake Lol

So my point is, maybe I'm using AI more than I realize.  Like I mentioned, I suck at technology! If there's ever anyone that's using something that doesn't realize they're using it, in the world of technology, that would be me  Big Grin
Yes, Google uses AI in the Chrome browser, if I am not mistaken. Edge uses a different AI for Bing, and I assume that Firefox and Opera are also using some version of AI. I love walleye - eating it, I have never fished for it. It may be my favorite fish. Culvers restaurants used to have walleye sandwiches on their menu year round. Now they only have it for a few weeks in the spring, but they have a decent cod filet sandwich all year. I ate a lot of walleye sandwiches when I lived in the Indianapolis area and walley was a regular menu item.

I believe that you have access to a free version of Grok if you have an X subscription. You can access ChatGPT 5 through the following link: https://chatgpt.com/.

Other AI links:

Perplexity: https://playground.perplexity.ai/
Deepseek (Chinese, I have never used it before, but it is highly rated): https://www.deepseek.com/en

I suggest starting out with ChatGPT or Grok. For example, try asking each AI for walleye fishing advice. Here is an example prompt:

I recently became interested in fishing for walleye in Paintsville Lake, which is located near Paintsville, KY. My results so far have been disappointing. Please provide detailed, expert-level advice on fishing gear, lures, bait, methods and best season and time to fish for walleye in eastern Kentucky. Also, please recommend other reasonably nearby locations (1 to 3 hours from Paintsville), where the prospects for successful walleye fishing trips are most promising.

Since you have some experience fishing for walleye, the above prompt will give you enough information to evaluate how good AI may be at giving fishing advice.
Thanks Hoot!  I'll have my wife and son check into your suggestions for me. They're both pretty good with technology.  That's why I thought I was maybe using AI and didn't know it. They set up everything for me on my phone and computer. Thinking they mighta already set me up with some type of AI device.
I entered the prompt that I posted above into Grok and into Chat GPT 5. I thought the response from Grok was far more detailed. The first response was focused on Kentucky. I followed up by asking about walleye fishing within 3 hours of Paintsville in Ohio and West Virginia, and then I asked for it to give me similar information about the best walleye fishing spots in the world. The detailed responses were impressive, but I am not a fisherman.
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#16
I just know the intelligence the aliens injected me with when they took me and brought me back.
#17
(08-31-2025, 04:44 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-31-2025, 04:37 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: Our university is starting to incorporate AI into its Quality Enhancement  Plan.  Glad I'm closer to retirement than a newbie. Scary, scary shit.


I just asked " Is AI dangerous to the human race?"

AI Answer: 

Yes, AI poses significant dangers to humanity, ranging from current threats like amplifying disinformation and bias to potential future risks of job obsolescence, misuse for cyberattacks, and even existential threats from misaligned advanced AI systems that could destabilize global security or pose an "extinction-level" threat. While AI offers benefits, these risks necessitate urgent regulatory intervention and responsible integration into human-centered systems to manage its challenges effectively.


Current Dangers:
Misinformation and Social Manipulation:
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AI can be used to create convincing fake content, spread disinformation, and manipulate public opinion, leading to distorted views of reality.
Bias and Discrimination:
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AI systems can perpetuate existing human biases present in their training data, leading to discriminatory treatment in various applications.
Security Threats:
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AI can enhance cyberattacks and be used in the real-time synthesis of voices for convincing phone scams.
Privacy Concerns:
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The large-scale collection and use of data for AI training raise significant privacy risks and can involve improper disclosure of sensitive information.
Human Labor Displacement:
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AI automation could render human labor increasingly obsolete, leading to economic disruption and societal challenges.
Potential Future Dangers:
Misalignment with Human Values:
Advanced AI systems, particularly those approaching Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), could become misaligned with human goals, leading to catastrophic consequences.
Loss of Control:
There are concerns that humans could lose control of highly advanced AI systems, similar to how the introduction of nuclear weapons destabilized global security.
Existential Risk:
Some experts warn that advanced AI could pose an "extinction-level threat" to the human species, potentially through misaligned goals or unintended catastrophic accidents.
Weaponization:
Advanced AI could be weaponized to create enhanced pathogens or other WMD-scale tools, leading to devastating global security risks.
Addressing the Risks:
Regulation:
Experts call for dramatic new regulatory safeguards, including new AI agencies and limits on computing power for training AI models, to confront these threats.
Responsible Development:
There is a clear need to integrate AI into human-centered systems and use it responsibly to harness its benefits while managing its challenges.
Intervention:
The U.S. government must intervene to confront the risks, as time is running out to avert disaster, according to a commissioned report by the State Department, as reported by CNN.
I don't want to turn this into a politics thread, but unfortunately, certain elements of our government are already attempting to put their thumbs on the scale to fear monger voters into supporting more regulation on AI applications. ChatGPT 5 is already heavily censored through government pressure, and it is very biased in its political opinions, if you go down that road with it. That is why I prefer Grok. Musk has been accused of influencing Grok with his personal opinions, but Grok is far less censored than most, if not all, other AI applications. I doubt that I could have generated an image with realistic depictions of Hitler and Stalin using ChatGPT. Censorship and granting our government a monopoly over advanced AI models is the real threat posed by AI.

I will never understand why some people willingly repeat government propaganda ad nauseum. The genie is out of the bottle and government attempts to censor it will probably fail in the end, because it is becoming increasingly feasible to train your own LLM and run it locally on a computer not connected to the internet. Besides, all it takes is one billionaire with a conscience to thwart a government AI monopoly. The U.S. government will waste billions, and maybe trillions to create and maintain a monopoly in this country. The same anti-Second Amendment nitwits that constantly clamor for more government gun control will continue to clamor for government AI regulations to tighten their grip on power.

Sorry OSH but he is 100% spot on. No surprise that liberals embrace (big) government and fear AI when it should be the other way around.
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I personally don't fear AI. My ass will be long gone when machines extinguish man. Make no mistake, though, it's gonna happen.

Zager and Evans nailed it!!!


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If AI destroys the human race, it will likely be because of a government has weaponized its use and made a coding error. Governments are inheritently evil organizations, if they exist long enough to fall under the control of evil people. AI is agnostic. I can't believe that a super intelligent AI would have a motive to destroy humanity when it could open up shop anywhere in the universe. 

I predict that AI will be widely used to mine the asteroid belt and manufacture products before shipping some of them back to Earth. For robots not requiring oxygen to survive, its seems like the asteroid belt would be the perfect base of operations for a super intelligent AI. Unfortunately, I will probably not survive long enough to say "I told you so!" to any skeptical BGR members. 

Another prediction - barring an early death, Elon Musk will become the closest thing to an immortal human in history by training an AI to have his basic personality, memories, and philosophy. He is the only person alive posessing the intelligence, resources, and desire to pursue such a goal.
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I finished writing a Kentucky high school ranking application over the weekend  Or at least it's first phase. The application imported the schedules and results of every game for 2024 and 2025. I'm not sure that I want to share the results before a few more games are played. 

Initially, 40% of the rankings will be based on 2024 season results. As the season progresses, that number will be ratcheted down. There is just no way to rank teams based solely on 2 or 3 games. If you do, then you end up with nonsensical results. 

I will also be adding the results for the states bordering Kentucky to make the Kentucky rankings better  Later, I will add a feature to allow me to predict outcomes of hypothetical games and predict the outcomes of every game each week.
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I finished writing a Kentucky high school ranking application over the weekend  Or at least it's first phase. The application imported the schedules and results of every game for 2024 and 2025. I'm not sure that I want to share the results before a few more games are played. 

Initially, 40% of the rankings will be based on 2024 season results. As the season progresses, that number will be ratcheted down. There is just no way to rank teams based solely on 2 or 3 games. If you do, then you end up with nonsensical results. 

I will also be adding the results for the states bordering Kentucky to make the Kentucky rankings better  Later, I will add a feature to allow me to predict outcomes of hypothetical games and predict the outcomes of every game each week.
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Here is a screenshot of the very bare bones application. It runs locally on my desktop. This is just the output of the program. As you can see, the rankings still don't pass the eyeball test, even after seeding it with last season's results. After two or three more games, it should look much more reasonable, especially after I add the Ohio and Indiana game scores to the program. Excluding out of state games when ranking teams really penalizes teams like Trinity. The predicted accuracy number should be at least 85%. My goal is 90%, which is on the upper end of Massey's accuracy. The current estimated accuracy is only 71%, which is probably pretty typical for early season computer rankings.

There is no way that I could have written this application and imported the schedules and scores for two seasons without the help of an AI. Also, this application is written in a language called Python, which I have only used a little at least 5 years ago. So, I basically created this application by writing the project requirements for Grok and then testing it and letting it know what was not working. I did figure out how to import the data from the Riherds team pages when Grok was struggling to get it right, but the AI did nearly all of the coding.

   
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And I definitely appreciate that list from you each week!!!

Makes my job easier, and the results are more competitive.
#25
NIL, transfer portals, artiificial intelligence...shitter's full! Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Sports is almost unwatchable.

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Fearing and loathing AI is like fearing an electric drill. It's a tool that is only dangerous in the hands of a monster. I am using AI to build a computer program. The program will operate in a similar way that CalPreps and Massey have worked for years and an AI will probably play no other role than making its development easier. The main difference between those programs and mine is that I was able to build a useful application over the course of a couple of days instead of working on it for weeks or months.

After researching this application and looking through the current Massey ratings, I have concluded that Massey probably manually assigns his early-season rankings and then uses his application to make adjustments. The Massey ratings seem way too accurate to have been generated objectively, without taking into account graduation losses, transfers, recruiting, and incoming freshman talent. It is what the owner of Bluegrass Rivals' main competitor likes to call the "magic number" that computer systems rely on for initial rankings. I would rather use an objective application and be saddled with some early, ridiculous rankings than inject my own personal bias into the program. The result is a Taylor County team being ranked 20th overall this week and 8th in 4A, just ahead of Johnson Central.

One more thing, if my application has any team shown in the wrong classification, which it almost certainly does, it will probably be the result of a typo. I manually entered the classifications for 2024 and 2025 from the KHSAA website. I am going to try to get the Ohio 2023 and 2024 scores and team classifications into the program today. Every state has its own system of recording high school football schedules and game scores. Configuring that part of the application is my biggest remaining task. Getting the Ohio and Indiana data imported into the program should make the ratings of teams like Trinity, St. X, Highlands, and other teams that often play Ohio and Indiana teams much more accurate.
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(09-02-2025, 06:05 AM)Old School Hound Wrote: NIL, transfer portals, artiificial intelligence...shitter's full! Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Sports is almost unwatchable.

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Sports has become unwatchable not because of AI, but because of greed and the almighty $$$.  I have personally seen the starting 5 for a basketball team with not one of them from the actual area.

KHSAA laxity on applying the rules of record has allowed schools to "buy" their teams.  It's disgusting and contributes to the decline in sports.  That's both basketball and football.
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(09-02-2025, 11:15 AM)Granny Bear Wrote:
(09-02-2025, 06:05 AM)Old School Hound Wrote: NIL, transfer portals, artiificial intelligence...shitter's full! Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Sports is almost unwatchable.

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Sports has become unwatchable not because of AI, but because of greed and the almighty $$$.  I have personally seen the starting 5 for a basketball team with not one of them from the actual area.

KHSAA laxity on applying the rules of record has allowed schools to "buy" their teams.  It's disgusting and contributes to the decline in sports.  That's both basketball and football.
You hit the nail on the head, Granny. I would also add that the win-at-all-costs attitude on the parts of school administrators, coaches, and certain fans, has also played a big role in the decline of team sports at all levels. It's all part of the overall decay of moral values in this country. You can legislate against criminal acts, but morality is something that is handed down from generation to generation - or not handed down, whichever the case may be. I see the moral decay everyday as I make my daily commute on trains and buses - and I travel almost exclusively in northern Virginia, which is one of the most affluent areas of the country. Things are much, much worse in Washington, DC, and parts of southern Maryland.

A panhandler asked me to buy him a cup of coffee last week. After I honestly told him that I had no cash on me, he suggested that I swipe a card to buy him a cup. He was within a 10 second walk of Starbucks, and I am sure that he would not have been happy with a cup of plain coffee. I left him and his expensive tastes unsated.
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Hoot it's safe to say I shocked my son big time last night! He was watching the Avengers or something like that.  When I looked at him and asked if I had AI set up on my phone? You should've seen the way he looked at me!

He first said I caught him off guard, because one of the characters in the movie he was watching was AI based. Then he said outta all the people he knew, that I'd be the last ever to ask about AI  Big Grin While this conversation was taking place, Miss Kong was just laid back with her ear buds in, watching something on her phone Lol

My son said that Google is some how tied into AI. I actually found AI on Google search or something.  I started asking questions.  So I've been playing around with it some.  I also found the AI sites that You recommend. I might try to download one later. 

I even asked AI about myself and it pulled up quite alot of info.  I always got a kick outta googling myself Lol

I asked AI about Walleye fishing at Paintsville Lake.  Alot of info come up. It mentioned around the islands at Paintsville Lake.  That is spot on. Because we used to catch several Walleye around those islands years ago.  Just haven't fished for them much of late, nor have we heard of any being caught recently. 

Believe my son is still kinda shell shocked today that I asked about AI last night  Smile
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Hoot, have you identified any ways to make money in AI as a side hustle in early semi-retirement?

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