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02-22-2025, 02:51 PM
This is a thought I have had for a while and I am curious on peoples input on this. Just for example if you take Lebron and put him on the worst team in the 15th which based on rankings is East Ridge would they win the 15th and go on and win state? I want to know others peoples thoughts. I don’t think a top NBA player could lead the worst team in the region to a State Championship.
02-22-2025, 02:56 PM
I don’t think they’d even win the 15th. It would be wildly entertaining though!
02-22-2025, 03:01 PM
(02-22-2025, 02:56 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote: I don’t think they’d even win the 15th. It would be wildly entertaining though!I agree. It’s very entertaining to think about as well. I can see where they don’t win the region but I don’t know how teams would get a stop unless they send 3-4 at the NBA player and let the others shoot wide open shots and hope they miss.
02-22-2025, 03:13 PM
This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.
(02-22-2025, 03:01 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:(02-22-2025, 02:56 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote: I don’t think they’d even win the 15th. It would be wildly entertaining though!I agree. It’s very entertaining to think about as well. I can see where they don’t win the region but I don’t know how teams would get a stop unless they send 3-4 at the NBA player and let the others shoot wide open shots and hope they miss.
We used to have this debate with putting LeBron on Piarist back when I was in school and that was we thought, that we’d put 3-4 people on him and guard the other 4 with 1-2 players. East Ridge is a lot better than those Piarist teams were because Piarist was not capable of getting a stop whereas East Ridge is, so maybe I’m wrong, it would be interesting definitely haha.
(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.
Buddy, chill out, and quit commenting on basketball. You make more a fool of yourself with every post you make, it is obvious you are the one who doesn’t understand how good those players are. Any elite NBA player would have 50+ sure, but they aren’t God, to say he would take East Ridge to a state championship and beat teams like Great Crossing and St. X is just not true. Reed Sheppard, I know he isn’t LeBron, was the #3 pick, and never won a state championship, and his team was good.
You also lost your credibility when you said Watts was better than Onkst in every category earlier this year, including shooting. Pretty easy to look that stuff up.
02-22-2025, 03:33 PM
(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.If it would make you happier I could post about your 8-18 Pirates who just lost to a 3 Win Tolsia Team.
02-22-2025, 03:38 PM
(02-22-2025, 03:33 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:can u imagine the expectations darrel would put on belfry if they had nikola jokic(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.If it would make you happier I could post about your 8-18 Pirates who just lost to a 3 Win Tolsia Team
02-22-2025, 04:15 PM
Ok so are we talking HS players that develop to be lebron, or are we talking Lebron now. If we are talking 2016 Lebron, 87-88 Jordan, Jokic now, Early 2000s Shaq, you are Fing crazy if they don’t win state. 4 guys with a pulse that practice basketball occasionally could pair up with 2016 Lebron and they could go 39-0 in this state or any state.
Just talking about them at a high school or even college level makes a difference but they don’t win state. If you put 18 year old lebron on east ridge, they win the 15th. You put 29 year old lebron on east ridge, they are nationally ranked. You put a 29 year old jordan on east ridge and holy crap good luck. Most teams in this state don’t have guys taller than 6’6, the only teams that may have a shot holding jokic to under 60 is Great Crossing and DCA, and that’s tripling on every touch.
Just talking about them at a high school or even college level makes a difference but they don’t win state. If you put 18 year old lebron on east ridge, they win the 15th. You put 29 year old lebron on east ridge, they are nationally ranked. You put a 29 year old jordan on east ridge and holy crap good luck. Most teams in this state don’t have guys taller than 6’6, the only teams that may have a shot holding jokic to under 60 is Great Crossing and DCA, and that’s tripling on every touch.
02-22-2025, 04:31 PM
The answer is no!
02-22-2025, 04:48 PM
Top NBA player's team wins State going away.
Watch the videos where Brian Scalabrine plays one-on-one against guys who were All-State in high school or played at Power 5 programs (there's one where he plays a guy was on scholarship for a good Syracuse team).
There's levels to this and you could take a top NBA player and let the other team play with 7 and they'd still crush them. Look at what Allen Iverson did to Kobe & Shaq's Lakers in Game 1 of the 2001 finals. He's under 6'3 and can drop 48 on one of the most dominant teams in NBA history, but he couldn't drop 80 on Great Crossing or Frederick Douglass? Please.
Maybe if we're talking about putting a top NBA player who is under 6'0 or over 7'0 (and would have trouble getting into position on offense) on a really bad team and they had to win a huge State like California or Texas and you put them on the worst team in the lowest division and made them play against the biggest division and they'd possibly meet a team or teams with five or six D1 athletes and a future lottery pick, but there's no way they wouldn't breeze through Kentucky and it's asinine to think otherwise.
Watch the videos where Brian Scalabrine plays one-on-one against guys who were All-State in high school or played at Power 5 programs (there's one where he plays a guy was on scholarship for a good Syracuse team).
There's levels to this and you could take a top NBA player and let the other team play with 7 and they'd still crush them. Look at what Allen Iverson did to Kobe & Shaq's Lakers in Game 1 of the 2001 finals. He's under 6'3 and can drop 48 on one of the most dominant teams in NBA history, but he couldn't drop 80 on Great Crossing or Frederick Douglass? Please.
Maybe if we're talking about putting a top NBA player who is under 6'0 or over 7'0 (and would have trouble getting into position on offense) on a really bad team and they had to win a huge State like California or Texas and you put them on the worst team in the lowest division and made them play against the biggest division and they'd possibly meet a team or teams with five or six D1 athletes and a future lottery pick, but there's no way they wouldn't breeze through Kentucky and it's asinine to think otherwise.
02-22-2025, 04:59 PM
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(02-22-2025, 03:14 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote:REED SHEPPARD WAS 18 WHEN HE PLAYED!!! YOU PUT AN 25 YEAR OLD REED SHEPPARD OUT THERE AND SEE IF THEY DONT WIN STATE.(02-22-2025, 03:01 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:(02-22-2025, 02:56 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote: I don’t think they’d even win the 15th. It would be wildly entertaining though!I agree. It’s very entertaining to think about as well. I can see where they don’t win the region but I don’t know how teams would get a stop unless they send 3-4 at the NBA player and let the others shoot wide open shots and hope they miss.
We used to have this debate with putting LeBron on Piarist back when I was in school and that was we thought, that we’d put 3-4 people on him and guard the other 4 with 1-2 players. East Ridge is a lot better than those Piarist teams were because Piarist was not capable of getting a stop whereas East Ridge is, so maybe I’m wrong, it would be interesting definitely haha.
(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.
Buddy, chill out, and quit commenting on basketball. You make more a fool of yourself with every post you make, it is obvious you are the one who doesn’t understand how good those players are. Any elite NBA player would have 50+ sure, but they aren’t God, to say he would take East Ridge to a state championship and beat teams like Great Crossing and St. X is just not true. Reed Sheppard, I know he isn’t LeBron, was the #3 pick, and never won a state championship, and his team was good.
You also lost your credibility when you said Watts was better than Onkst in every category earlier this year, including shooting. Pretty easy to look that stuff up.
Anyone that wants credibility has to start the convo with “when they were 18” If you honestly believe that a NBA player in their prime isn’t running clocking any team in the 15th region on the worst team you are quite insane.
The best players in the world double team steph curry in his prime, tripled shaq, or if you really wanna deep dive look how the spurs guarded lebron in the 07 finals. A simple triple team just doesn’t make a difference when it’s 16 year olds.
(02-22-2025, 04:59 PM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote:(02-22-2025, 03:14 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote:REED SHEPPARD WAS 18 WHEN HE PLAYED!!! YOU PUT AN 25 YEAR OLD REED SHEPPARD OUT THERE AND SEE IF THEY DONT WIN STATE.(02-22-2025, 03:01 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:(02-22-2025, 02:56 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote: I don’t think they’d even win the 15th. It would be wildly entertaining though!I agree. It’s very entertaining to think about as well. I can see where they don’t win the region but I don’t know how teams would get a stop unless they send 3-4 at the NBA player and let the others shoot wide open shots and hope they miss.
We used to have this debate with putting LeBron on Piarist back when I was in school and that was we thought, that we’d put 3-4 people on him and guard the other 4 with 1-2 players. East Ridge is a lot better than those Piarist teams were because Piarist was not capable of getting a stop whereas East Ridge is, so maybe I’m wrong, it would be interesting definitely haha.
(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.
Buddy, chill out, and quit commenting on basketball. You make more a fool of yourself with every post you make, it is obvious you are the one who doesn’t understand how good those players are. Any elite NBA player would have 50+ sure, but they aren’t God, to say he would take East Ridge to a state championship and beat teams like Great Crossing and St. X is just not true. Reed Sheppard, I know he isn’t LeBron, was the #3 pick, and never won a state championship, and his team was good.
You also lost your credibility when you said Watts was better than Onkst in every category earlier this year, including shooting. Pretty easy to look that stuff up.
Anyone that wants credibility has to start the convo with “when they were 18” If you honestly believe that a NBA player in their prime isn’t running clocking any team in the 15th region on the worst team you are quite insane.
The best players in the world double team steph curry in his prime, tripled shaq, or if you really wanna deep dive look how the spurs guarded lebron in the 07 finals. A simple triple team just doesn’t make a difference when it’s 16 year olds.
I shouldn’t have included the Reed Sheppard tid bit, I know there’s a big difference between 25 and 18. It’s night and day. With that being said l don’t think Reed Sheppard at 25 could win the 15th with this East Ridge team much less state. I don’t think St. X would have any trouble scoring 100+ against them with whichever 1 player you put on the other team, they can’t guard 5 players. You can yell to the clouds that it’s insane to think, I have watched a lot of elite level basketball up close and that’s my opinion. Not saying you haven’t but I’m not basing my opinion off of nothing and definitely not a Brian Scalabrine 1 on 1 YouTube video.
02-22-2025, 05:47 PM
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(02-22-2025, 05:29 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote:You can throw out the youtube video, everyone knows that development continues on and on. Reed sheppard now would scorch reed sheppard two seasons ago at north. It wouldn’t even be close. Now give home another 5 seasons in the NBA with the best trainers in the world, perfecting his craft. Take the worst active pro, he’s better than any high school player in america by a hefty margin. The only exception maybe is Flagg, and he’s considered the best prospect since anthony davis.(02-22-2025, 04:59 PM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote:(02-22-2025, 03:14 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote:REED SHEPPARD WAS 18 WHEN HE PLAYED!!! YOU PUT AN 25 YEAR OLD REED SHEPPARD OUT THERE AND SEE IF THEY DONT WIN STATE.(02-22-2025, 03:01 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:(02-22-2025, 02:56 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote: I don’t think they’d even win the 15th. It would be wildly entertaining though!I agree. It’s very entertaining to think about as well. I can see where they don’t win the region but I don’t know how teams would get a stop unless they send 3-4 at the NBA player and let the others shoot wide open shots and hope they miss.
We used to have this debate with putting LeBron on Piarist back when I was in school and that was we thought, that we’d put 3-4 people on him and guard the other 4 with 1-2 players. East Ridge is a lot better than those Piarist teams were because Piarist was not capable of getting a stop whereas East Ridge is, so maybe I’m wrong, it would be interesting definitely haha.
(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.
Buddy, chill out, and quit commenting on basketball. You make more a fool of yourself with every post you make, it is obvious you are the one who doesn’t understand how good those players are. Any elite NBA player would have 50+ sure, but they aren’t God, to say he would take East Ridge to a state championship and beat teams like Great Crossing and St. X is just not true. Reed Sheppard, I know he isn’t LeBron, was the #3 pick, and never won a state championship, and his team was good.
You also lost your credibility when you said Watts was better than Onkst in every category earlier this year, including shooting. Pretty easy to look that stuff up.
Anyone that wants credibility has to start the convo with “when they were 18” If you honestly believe that a NBA player in their prime isn’t running clocking any team in the 15th region on the worst team you are quite insane.
The best players in the world double team steph curry in his prime, tripled shaq, or if you really wanna deep dive look how the spurs guarded lebron in the 07 finals. A simple triple team just doesn’t make a difference when it’s 16 year olds.
I shouldn’t have included the Reed Sheppard tid bit, I know there’s a big difference between 25 and 18. Pirateforlife’s comment just got under my skin. With that being said l don’t think Reed Sheppard at 25 could win the 15th with this East Ridge team much less state. I don’t think St. X would have any trouble scoring 100+ against them with whichever 1 player you put on the other team, they can’t guard 5 players. You can yell to the clouds that it’s insane to think, I have watched a lot of elite level basketball up close and that’s my opinion. Not saying you haven’t but I’m not basing my opinion off of nothing and definitely not a Brian Scalabrine 1 on 1 YouTube video.
Now take the best of the best. The best basketball players on the planet. Instead of how many blanks do you need to change a light bulb, the question should be how many 6’2 white 16 year olds does it take to hold prime lebron to under 100 points. Unless you have freak athletes that probably go D1, which is a rarity… STX has the best, who is scoring in the paint on a NBA forward playing the middle of a zone. At this point the 3 in the NBA is a 6’7+ freak athlete who pulls it from 40. For example prime KD, who scores inside 15 feet if he’s in the middle of the zone?? Now you have to rely on a team of athletes to make long threes.
And finally, THEY WILL FOUL OUT!!! ANY NBA PLAYER WILL FOUL A TEENAGER OUT WITHIN MINUTES. Now you got KD or Lebron on the bench guys.
I forgot about Bronny, exclude bronny from the active pro discussion.
02-22-2025, 06:37 PM
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(02-22-2025, 03:33 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:Post all you want. I never once thought Belfry could win the region no matter who the coach was and that was preseason before Rash left. And not making excuses but Belfry hadn't really practiced any at all since the flood and they had a starter out and another one go out early with Little who is probably the best player on the team. Anyone knows Belfry has about 5 kids that deserve to get varsity minutes and if one goes down they are screwed especially if its one of the guards(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.If it would make you happier I could post about your 8-18 Pirates who just lost to a 3 Win Tolsia Team.
I honestly can't believe people are making the argument that against a player like LeBron on a terrible team couldn't win the 15th region or state. I dont think its close
(02-22-2025, 03:14 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote:Watts is better than Onkst. Watts takes a lot of bad shots but he makes shots and can do things no one else in the 15th region can do. If you had them just shoot 100 3's he would rank in the top of the region in makes. Ask college coaches if you don't believe me.(02-22-2025, 03:01 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:(02-22-2025, 02:56 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote: I don’t think they’d even win the 15th. It would be wildly entertaining though!I agree. It’s very entertaining to think about as well. I can see where they don’t win the region but I don’t know how teams would get a stop unless they send 3-4 at the NBA player and let the others shoot wide open shots and hope they miss.
We used to have this debate with putting LeBron on Piarist back when I was in school and that was we thought, that we’d put 3-4 people on him and guard the other 4 with 1-2 players. East Ridge is a lot better than those Piarist teams were because Piarist was not capable of getting a stop whereas East Ridge is, so maybe I’m wrong, it would be interesting definitely haha.
(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.
Buddy, chill out, and quit commenting on basketball. You make more a fool of yourself with every post you make, it is obvious you are the one who doesn’t understand how good those players are. Any elite NBA player would have 50+ sure, but they aren’t God, to say he would take East Ridge to a state championship and beat teams like Great Crossing and St. X is just not true. Reed Sheppard, I know he isn’t LeBron, was the #3 pick, and never won a state championship, and his team was good.
You also lost your credibility when you said Watts was better than Onkst in every category earlier this year, including shooting. Pretty easy to look that stuff up.
East Ridges best player couldn’t beat any of the top 5 teams worst player in a 1 on 1. Idc if you have 2016 LeBron on the team, he can’t guard all 5 guys on the floor. Also throw in the fact that if any of the KHSAA Referees are calling the game like they always do, they’re gonna call LeBron for all of his travels that he commits.
Notre Dame Football…GO IRISH
02-22-2025, 07:25 PM
(02-22-2025, 06:37 PM)pirateforlife Wrote:There are 4 guys from the 15th Region ranked in the Top 50 in the state in 3 Point FG Made per game, and Watts ain’t one of em. In fact, Watts ain’t even #1 on his own team.(02-22-2025, 03:33 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:Post all you want. I never once thought Belfry could win the region no matter who the coach was and that was preseason before Rash left. And not making excuses but Belfry hadn't really practiced any at all since the flood and they had a starter out and another one go out early with Little who is probably the best player on the team. Anyone knows Belfry has about 5 kids that deserve to get varsity minutes and if one goes down they are screwed especially if its one of the guards(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.If it would make you happier I could post about your 8-18 Pirates who just lost to a 3 Win Tolsia Team.
I honestly can't believe people are making the argument that against a player like LeBron on a terrible team couldn't win the 15th region or state. I dont think its close
(02-22-2025, 03:14 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote:Watts is better than Onkst. Watts takes a lot of bad shots but he makes shots and can do things no one else in the 15th region can do. If you had them just shoot 100 3's he would rank in the top of the region in makes. Ask college coaches if you don't believe me.(02-22-2025, 03:01 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:(02-22-2025, 02:56 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote: I don’t think they’d even win the 15th. It would be wildly entertaining though!I agree. It’s very entertaining to think about as well. I can see where they don’t win the region but I don’t know how teams would get a stop unless they send 3-4 at the NBA player and let the others shoot wide open shots and hope they miss.
We used to have this debate with putting LeBron on Piarist back when I was in school and that was we thought, that we’d put 3-4 people on him and guard the other 4 with 1-2 players. East Ridge is a lot better than those Piarist teams were because Piarist was not capable of getting a stop whereas East Ridge is, so maybe I’m wrong, it would be interesting definitely haha.
(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.
Buddy, chill out, and quit commenting on basketball. You make more a fool of yourself with every post you make, it is obvious you are the one who doesn’t understand how good those players are. Any elite NBA player would have 50+ sure, but they aren’t God, to say he would take East Ridge to a state championship and beat teams like Great Crossing and St. X is just not true. Reed Sheppard, I know he isn’t LeBron, was the #3 pick, and never won a state championship, and his team was good.
You also lost your credibility when you said Watts was better than Onkst in every category earlier this year, including shooting. Pretty easy to look that stuff up.
Notre Dame Football…GO IRISH
02-22-2025, 08:02 PM
(02-22-2025, 07:25 PM)Redneck Wrote:He takes a lot of bad shots but if you're just talking pure shooting he is very good. He is one of the best players I've seen in the 15th region in the last 10 years. Not saying best just one of(02-22-2025, 06:37 PM)pirateforlife Wrote:There are 4 guys from the 15th Region ranked in the Top 50 in the state in 3 Point FG Made per game, and Watts ain’t one of em. In fact, Watts ain’t even #1 on his own team.(02-22-2025, 03:33 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:Post all you want. I never once thought Belfry could win the region no matter who the coach was and that was preseason before Rash left. And not making excuses but Belfry hadn't really practiced any at all since the flood and they had a starter out and another one go out early with Little who is probably the best player on the team. Anyone knows Belfry has about 5 kids that deserve to get varsity minutes and if one goes down they are screwed especially if its one of the guards(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.If it would make you happier I could post about your 8-18 Pirates who just lost to a 3 Win Tolsia Team.
I honestly can't believe people are making the argument that against a player like LeBron on a terrible team couldn't win the 15th region or state. I dont think its close
(02-22-2025, 03:14 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote:Watts is better than Onkst. Watts takes a lot of bad shots but he makes shots and can do things no one else in the 15th region can do. If you had them just shoot 100 3's he would rank in the top of the region in makes. Ask college coaches if you don't believe me.(02-22-2025, 03:01 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:(02-22-2025, 02:56 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote: I don’t think they’d even win the 15th. It would be wildly entertaining though!I agree. It’s very entertaining to think about as well. I can see where they don’t win the region but I don’t know how teams would get a stop unless they send 3-4 at the NBA player and let the others shoot wide open shots and hope they miss.
We used to have this debate with putting LeBron on Piarist back when I was in school and that was we thought, that we’d put 3-4 people on him and guard the other 4 with 1-2 players. East Ridge is a lot better than those Piarist teams were because Piarist was not capable of getting a stop whereas East Ridge is, so maybe I’m wrong, it would be interesting definitely haha.
(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.
Buddy, chill out, and quit commenting on basketball. You make more a fool of yourself with every post you make, it is obvious you are the one who doesn’t understand how good those players are. Any elite NBA player would have 50+ sure, but they aren’t God, to say he would take East Ridge to a state championship and beat teams like Great Crossing and St. X is just not true. Reed Sheppard, I know he isn’t LeBron, was the #3 pick, and never won a state championship, and his team was good.
You also lost your credibility when you said Watts was better than Onkst in every category earlier this year, including shooting. Pretty easy to look that stuff up.
This is ridiculous! The answer is YES a top 50 nba player would lead any team in the state to a state championship. ANY. I would even say any single nba player on a roster (1-10) would lead any team in the state to the state championship. If you disagree you don’t know basketball. There are levels to it.
(02-22-2025, 05:29 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote:this is a terrible take in my opinion. Like there is a reason these people are getting paid millions to play. If highschool Reed Shepard can put up 25+ a game with a mediocre highschool team he can avg 60 with ease. And EASILY win the state.(02-22-2025, 04:59 PM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote:(02-22-2025, 03:14 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote:REED SHEPPARD WAS 18 WHEN HE PLAYED!!! YOU PUT AN 25 YEAR OLD REED SHEPPARD OUT THERE AND SEE IF THEY DONT WIN STATE.(02-22-2025, 03:01 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:(02-22-2025, 02:56 PM)EKY Hoops Wrote: I don’t think they’d even win the 15th. It would be wildly entertaining though!I agree. It’s very entertaining to think about as well. I can see where they don’t win the region but I don’t know how teams would get a stop unless they send 3-4 at the NBA player and let the others shoot wide open shots and hope they miss.
We used to have this debate with putting LeBron on Piarist back when I was in school and that was we thought, that we’d put 3-4 people on him and guard the other 4 with 1-2 players. East Ridge is a lot better than those Piarist teams were because Piarist was not capable of getting a stop whereas East Ridge is, so maybe I’m wrong, it would be interesting definitely haha.
(02-22-2025, 03:13 PM)pirateforlife Wrote: This is a dumb post. Of course they would win state. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't really understand basketball and just how good those players are.
Buddy, chill out, and quit commenting on basketball. You make more a fool of yourself with every post you make, it is obvious you are the one who doesn’t understand how good those players are. Any elite NBA player would have 50+ sure, but they aren’t God, to say he would take East Ridge to a state championship and beat teams like Great Crossing and St. X is just not true. Reed Sheppard, I know he isn’t LeBron, was the #3 pick, and never won a state championship, and his team was good.
You also lost your credibility when you said Watts was better than Onkst in every category earlier this year, including shooting. Pretty easy to look that stuff up.
Anyone that wants credibility has to start the convo with “when they were 18” If you honestly believe that a NBA player in their prime isn’t running clocking any team in the 15th region on the worst team you are quite insane.
The best players in the world double team steph curry in his prime, tripled shaq, or if you really wanna deep dive look how the spurs guarded lebron in the 07 finals. A simple triple team just doesn’t make a difference when it’s 16 year olds.
I shouldn’t have included the Reed Sheppard tid bit, I know there’s a big difference between 25 and 18. It’s night and day. With that being said l don’t think Reed Sheppard at 25 could win the 15th with this East Ridge team much less state. I don’t think St. X would have any trouble scoring 100+ against them with whichever 1 player you put on the other team, they can’t guard 5 players. You can yell to the clouds that it’s insane to think, I have watched a lot of elite level basketball up close and that’s my opinion. Not saying you haven’t but I’m not basing my opinion off of nothing and definitely not a Brian Scalabrine 1 on 1 YouTube video.
02-22-2025, 10:44 PM
I'm just confused by the Reed Sheppard arguments if we're talking about a top NBA player.
Top NBA players are never seeing the G League and they are All Stars in their rookie seasons and are in contention for league MVP. That's not meant to be an insult to Sheppard, but no one is confusing him with Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, Embiid, Westbrook, Curry, Duncan, or Olajuwon.
Top NBA players are never seeing the G League and they are All Stars in their rookie seasons and are in contention for league MVP. That's not meant to be an insult to Sheppard, but no one is confusing him with Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, Embiid, Westbrook, Curry, Duncan, or Olajuwon.
02-22-2025, 11:54 PM
lol yes that team would win state without a doubt. I remember seeing an interview with Alex Caruso and they asked him how many players in NBA could win a national championship if they were placed on a 16 seed NCAA tournament team. The answer was double digits. You put one of those players in high school and it’s laughable what they would do. 60+ points easy every game if they wanted.
02-23-2025, 12:00 AM
I think it would depend on which player honestly. Could Kyrie? I’m not sure he could. Could Wemby? Who stops him in Kentucky?
02-23-2025, 01:08 AM
(02-23-2025, 12:00 AM)BCF4L Wrote: I think it would depend on which player honestly. Could Kyrie? I’m not sure he could. Could Wemby? Who stops him in Kentucky?Kyrie could dribble through 5 guys and do a 720 layup on someone, since he does it on a nightly basis already. Career 40% three point shooter so he’s just pulling up from wherever. Not a great pick.
Another thing I didn’t mention for all the people that think they wouldn’t make it out the region, the typical NBA three is 4 feet farther than High school.
02-23-2025, 02:01 AM
(02-23-2025, 12:00 AM)BCF4L Wrote: I think it would depend on which player honestly. Could Kyrie? I’m not sure he could. Could Wemby? Who stops him in Kentucky?I understand what you mean. I believe if a top NBA player could pull this off then it would have to be someone with a ton of size and physicality more so then a small guard.
02-24-2025, 11:12 AM
(02-23-2025, 01:08 AM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote:(02-23-2025, 12:00 AM)BCF4L Wrote: I think it would depend on which player honestly. Could Kyrie? I’m not sure he could. Could Wemby? Who stops him in Kentucky?Kyrie could dribble through 5 guys and do a 720 layup on someone, since he does it on a nightly basis already. Career 40% three point shooter so he’s just pulling up from wherever. Not a great pick.
Another thing I didn’t mention for all the people that think they wouldn’t make it out the region, the typical NBA three is 4 feet farther than High school.
Not to mention that if you put Kyrie on a high school PG, except for a few elite HS players they'd be lucky to get the ball across half court. Steph would shoot like 70% from 3 at high school range with high school defenders.
This isn't even a question. You put any All Star on any high school team in Kentucky and they would win state. For some perspective, the average high school team scores roughly 0.9-1.0 points per possession. The NBA average for the last few years has been about 1.3-1.4 points per possession, against other NBA talent. There is no one at the high school level that could stop even the worst player in the NBA.
02-24-2025, 12:17 PM
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(02-24-2025, 11:12 AM)Shogun Wrote:I disagree with the any team would win state with an NBA Player. The top teams in the state especially teams like Great Crossing or DCA could send 4 at the NBA Player and surround him and then leave their Big in the Paint so the others on the team don’t get a layup and make them shoot wide open 3s and most likely they won’t hit those 3s. 1 NBA player can’t guard all 5 of the other teams players. 4 players would have a mismatch.(02-23-2025, 01:08 AM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote:(02-23-2025, 12:00 AM)BCF4L Wrote: I think it would depend on which player honestly. Could Kyrie? I’m not sure he could. Could Wemby? Who stops him in Kentucky?Kyrie could dribble through 5 guys and do a 720 layup on someone, since he does it on a nightly basis already. Career 40% three point shooter so he’s just pulling up from wherever. Not a great pick.
Another thing I didn’t mention for all the people that think they wouldn’t make it out the region, the typical NBA three is 4 feet farther than High school.
Not to mention that if you put Kyrie on a high school PG, except for a few elite HS players they'd be lucky to get the ball across half court. Steph would shoot like 70% from 3 at high school range with high school defenders.
This isn't even a question. You put any All Star on any high school team in Kentucky and they would win state. For some perspective, the average high school team scores roughly 0.9-1.0 points per possession. The NBA average for the last few years has been about 1.3-1.4 points per possession, against other NBA talent. There is no one at the high school level that could stop even the worst player in the NBA.
(02-24-2025, 12:17 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:And they may be A All Star but they are NOT god. They will have to pass with 4 defenders trapping them. They wouldn’t be able to dribble without it hitting off someone. Especially if you’re playing a top team in the state that has a few D1 Prospect with quickness and size. If you didn’t send 3-4 at the NBA Player they would have 50+ Points but any coach with sense would send 3-4 at the player and make him pass it and let the others shoot wide open shots to beat you which as I said most likely won’t go in. They would let up a ton of points as well. Whoever the NBA player is guarding they will stay away from and let the other 4 work.(02-24-2025, 11:12 AM)Shogun Wrote:I disagree with the any team would win state with an NBA Player. The top teams in the state especially teams like Great Crossing or DCA could send 4 at the NBA Player and surround him and then leave their Big in the Paint so the others on the team don’t get a layup and make them shoot wide open 3s and most likely they won’t hit those 3s. 1 NBA player can’t guard all 5 of the other teams players. 4 players would have a mismatch.(02-23-2025, 01:08 AM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote:(02-23-2025, 12:00 AM)BCF4L Wrote: I think it would depend on which player honestly. Could Kyrie? I’m not sure he could. Could Wemby? Who stops him in Kentucky?Kyrie could dribble through 5 guys and do a 720 layup on someone, since he does it on a nightly basis already. Career 40% three point shooter so he’s just pulling up from wherever. Not a great pick.
Another thing I didn’t mention for all the people that think they wouldn’t make it out the region, the typical NBA three is 4 feet farther than High school.
Not to mention that if you put Kyrie on a high school PG, except for a few elite HS players they'd be lucky to get the ball across half court. Steph would shoot like 70% from 3 at high school range with high school defenders.
This isn't even a question. You put any All Star on any high school team in Kentucky and they would win state. For some perspective, the average high school team scores roughly 0.9-1.0 points per possession. The NBA average for the last few years has been about 1.3-1.4 points per possession, against other NBA talent. There is no one at the high school level that could stop even the worst player in the NBA.
02-24-2025, 01:13 PM
With the exception of home schools and missionaries, every public school will go 39-0 with even a mid level nba player on their team. I’ve seen homeschools not have a single player who can dribble correctly so let’s exclude them, but east ridge has been the team of example. They would be 39-0 with ease!!
East ridge has 2 players with double figures every game. One has made 83 threes. Let’s say you put an NBA player out there and he draws 4 defenders from the inbound, you are letting a 51.2% three point shooter and 3 others be 4 on 1 the other way. Let a 50% guy shoot unguarded from the perimeter, and he will make 8/10. He makes 50% with a team usually giving him all the focus, and now he gets NONE!! ITS A SHOOT AROUND!!
That’s the end of the argument. At this point I am worried about the families of a few of the members on this site… it must be hard for them to live with a senile person that has access to a computer.
East ridge has 2 players with double figures every game. One has made 83 threes. Let’s say you put an NBA player out there and he draws 4 defenders from the inbound, you are letting a 51.2% three point shooter and 3 others be 4 on 1 the other way. Let a 50% guy shoot unguarded from the perimeter, and he will make 8/10. He makes 50% with a team usually giving him all the focus, and now he gets NONE!! ITS A SHOOT AROUND!!
That’s the end of the argument. At this point I am worried about the families of a few of the members on this site… it must be hard for them to live with a senile person that has access to a computer.
02-24-2025, 02:09 PM
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(02-24-2025, 01:13 PM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote: With the exception of home schools and missionaries, every public school will go 39-0 with even a mid level nba player on their team. I’ve seen homeschools not have a single player who can dribble correctly so let’s exclude them, but east ridge has been the team of example. They would be 39-0 with ease!!Thats a little delusional to say. Okay then that’s fine if you say that. Send 3 at the NBA player (Still enough to make
East ridge has 2 players with double figures every game. One has made 83 threes. Let’s say you put an NBA player out there and he draws 4 defenders from the inbound, you are letting a 51.2% three point shooter and 3 others be 4 on 1 the other way. Let a 50% guy shoot unguarded from the perimeter, and he will make 8/10. He makes 50% with a team usually giving him all the focus, and now he gets NONE!! ITS A SHOOT AROUND!!
That’s the end of the argument. At this point I am worried about the families of a few of the members on this site… it must be hard for them to live with a senile person that has access to a computer.
him pass it) Put your 7 footer in the center of the paint and have one guy denying the “50 percent” shooter the ball. What’s ur solution now. I promise you this, East Ridge ain’t even one of the worst public schools in the state and they wouldn’t come close to winning state with a Mid Level NBA Player. You are idiotic to think they would. You’re telling me Payton Pritchard which is probably a little above mid this season would lead the worst public school
to a state championship? HELL NO
And to add @Gridiron_Raid they wouldn't get a stop. They would 4v4 and leave the NBA Players match up out of it. You must be a dumbass. You have never watched high level basketball if you can get on here and say a mid level NBA player could lead any public school to the state championship. ESPECIALLY in Kentucky. In 1A Ball In West Virginia then I could agree on that. 0% Chance a Mid NBA player could take the worst public school to a championship. Think about what you say before you say it.
02-24-2025, 04:00 PM
(02-24-2025, 02:09 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:Anyone on this site an ambulance driver or paramedic, I know someone who needs a wellness check…(02-24-2025, 01:13 PM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote: With the exception of home schools and missionaries, every public school will go 39-0 with even a mid level nba player on their team. I’ve seen homeschools not have a single player who can dribble correctly so let’s exclude them, but east ridge has been the team of example. They would be 39-0 with ease!!Thats a little delusional to say. Okay then that’s fine if you say that. Send 3 at the NBA player (Still enough to make
East ridge has 2 players with double figures every game. One has made 83 threes. Let’s say you put an NBA player out there and he draws 4 defenders from the inbound, you are letting a 51.2% three point shooter and 3 others be 4 on 1 the other way. Let a 50% guy shoot unguarded from the perimeter, and he will make 8/10. He makes 50% with a team usually giving him all the focus, and now he gets NONE!! ITS A SHOOT AROUND!!
That’s the end of the argument. At this point I am worried about the families of a few of the members on this site… it must be hard for them to live with a senile person that has access to a computer.
him pass it) Put your 7 footer in the center of the paint and have one guy denying the “50 percent” shooter the ball. What’s ur solution now. I promise you this, East Ridge ain’t even one of the worst public schools in the state and they wouldn’t come close to winning state with a Mid Level NBA Player. You are idiotic to think they would. You’re telling me Payton Pritchard which is probably a little above mid this season would lead the worst public school
to a state championship? HELL NO
And to add @Gridiron_Raid they wouldn't get a stop. They would 4v4 and leave the NBA Players match up out of it. You must be a dumbass. You have never watched high level basketball if you can get on here and say a mid level NBA player could lead any public school to the state championship. ESPECIALLY in Kentucky. In 1A Ball In West Virginia then I could agree on that. 0% Chance a Mid NBA player could take the worst public school to a championship. Think about what you say before you say it.
An 18 year old Malachi Moreno, Reed Sheppard, Trent Noah, 14 year old OJ mayo, 17 year old Rondo. These are teenagers that make drastic differences for their high school teams. They are teenagers that are better than other teenagers. Now imagine them when they are 25. That’s the argument. If a 8th grade OJ mayo can take a 2 win team to the elite 8, a 25 year old backup pg for the celtics can go 39-0. The only state where there is any competition would be against the prep schools in the big states like montverde or California preps.
Think about what you say before you say it.
02-24-2025, 04:02 PM
Depends on the player, North Laurel had an NBA player on their team and did not win a state championship, and was also one of the better teams in state.
02-24-2025, 04:21 PM
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