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13th Region New Rankings
#1
1)Harlan Co
2)Bell Co
3)Corbin
4)South Laurel
5)Clay Co
6)Pineville
7)North Laurel
8)Whitley Co
9)Knox Central
10)Barbourville

Thats the way I see it currently.
#2
Looks good, Key. Any of those top 4 could win the region. Flip a coin.
#3
I totally agree Old School. It will be fun to watch over the next couple months.
#4
(01-16-2025, 01:21 AM)Old School Hound Wrote: Looks good, Key. Any of those top 4 could win the region. Flip a coin.

That's close to what I was saying earlier when you had:
1. South




2. HC
3. xx
#5
(01-16-2025, 10:30 AM)HCS Wrote:
(01-16-2025, 01:21 AM)Old School Hound Wrote: Looks good, Key.  Any of those top 4 could win the region. Flip a coin.

That's close to what I was saying earlier when you had:
1. South




2. HC
3. xx
Yes can’t wait to see how the season plays out !
#6
South falls to Clay! Amazing job by Coach Jones and staff. Absolutely handled South from the opening tip. Clay can match South’s physicality and coach Davis made zero adjustments. Never seen a coach get all the hype and constantly lose big time games. I understand playing defense is important but if your own team struggles to score 40 points then what’s the point?
#7
(01-19-2025, 01:13 PM)RichieMerchant87 Wrote: South falls to Clay! Amazing job by Coach Jones and staff. Absolutely handled South from the opening tip. Clay can match South’s physicality and coach Davis made zero adjustments. Never seen a coach get all the hype and constantly lose big time games. I understand playing defense is important but if your own team struggles to score 40 points then what’s the point?

Reading this you'd think Clay won by 40. They won by 5 at home. Davis is a very coach coach but the best job I have seen anyone do on a Davis-coached team was a few years back when Glenn Gray completely befuddled his Cardinals in the opening round of the region tournament.
#8
Who is Glenn Gray?
#9
(01-19-2025, 01:41 PM)nedreader Wrote: Who is Glenn Gray?

You're favorite guy. The guy who regularly beat some of the best coaches in the region. Helluva coach. Helluva man.
#10
I heard from a former athletic director that something had been worked out for Ellis to be able to play. Also heard that the big kid from GA is eligible, as well. Having said that, that doesn't mean they WILL play. You'd think if they were eligible they would be on the court. Sounds like Tony is weighing the plusses and minuses of making late additions. Sometimes you can have subtraction by addition. Maybe P doesn't want to mess with the current chemistry. My guess is that Ellis will be on the floor soon. Will he make his Redhound debut against his old school on Tuesday?
#11
I heard henry bowling was eligible for whitley so they were now gonna release ellis at corbin. It all revolved around williamsburg releasing bowling to play at whitley then they release evan ellis. Whitley didn’t want to release ellis and get nothing out of the deal. I guess williamsburg ends up being the real loser because they get nothing in releasing henry. This sort of thing really bothers me. So much for putting kids first. The petty behavior of adults never ceases to amaze me. Whitley basically ran ellis off and fought tooth and nail to prevent him from playing once they did. Someone should be an adult in this situation. No love for siler at whitley for playing this hand. Your HS playing days only come once. Most will not play in college and none in the nba. I can only imagine being a parent in this situation. Take the high road from time to time. Petty adults who dont put kids first.
#12
(01-19-2025, 03:04 PM)Keystone12 Wrote: I heard henry bowling was eligible for whitley so they were now gonna release ellis at corbin. It all revolved around williamsburg releasing bowling to play at whitley then they release evan ellis. Whitley didn’t want to release ellis and get nothing out of the deal. I guess williamsburg ends up being the real loser because they get nothing in releasing henry. This sort of thing really bothers me. So much for putting kids first. The petty behavior of adults never ceases to amaze me. Whitley basically ran ellis off and fought tooth and nail to prevent him from playing once they did. Someone should be an adult in this situation. No love for siler at whitley for playing this hand. Your HS playing days only come once. Most will not play in college and none in the nba. I can only imagine being a parent in this situation. Take the high road from time to time. Petty adults who dont put kids first.

And don't forget the inept KHSAA. Myles Meadors lost almost his entire senior football season because the goons waited until the regional round of playoffs to declare him eligible. Kids are not a priority for school administrators and the KHSAA.
#13
(01-16-2025, 12:49 AM)Keystone12 Wrote: 1)Harlan Co
2)Bell Co
3)Corbin
4)South Laurel
5)Clay Co
6)Pineville
7)North Laurel
8)Whitley Co
9)Knox Central
10)Barbourville

Thats the way I see it currently.

That’s a lot of disrespect for NL, especially considering they just beat Pineville 90-66….

HC is the most experienced team in big and meaningful games and they have clearly the best player in the region IMO… Bell is coming on really strong and Corbin is as well, but don’t for a minute count SL out, that would be much motivation for them… Should be a very competitive region tourney this year! Go Black Bears!!!
#14
North just beat Pineville by 24 on a neutral court, so I’d flip those two, but otherwise I think you’re spot on. If the top two teams in each district don’t suffer a first round upset (and this year I don’t see that happening) then you’re going to be set up for a heck of a regional, with probably five teams that could win it, plus North capable of a first round upset. Everyone will be wanting to draw the winner and runner up from the 51st this year.
#15
Thats true. I think i put that list out before that game. I would definitely switch those two. On paper pineville has a helluva roster but they never beat the big boys.

I can’t think of a better trio of guards with puckett, thompson and now beck for pineville. Add moser and that sounds like a region favorite. The beck kid is solid athletically and makes really good decisions with the ball.

I can’t think of a better trio of guards with puckett, thompson and now beck for pineville. Add moser and that sounds like a region favorite. The beck kid is solid athletically and makes really good decisions with the ball.
#16
Hey Keystone! Don’t get carried away bud! They have some nice players, but they just lost 90-66 to NL……. I guess Mr Beck is going to make them a 20 plus points or more better team ?? Don’t think so………
#17
Beck wasn't even the best player on a bad Middlesboro team last year. Not that he isn't talented. But it's not like he's even a top 15 player in the region.
My Bobcats are playing well. Glad to see us being in the hunt again.
#18
I said on paper. I also said they never beat the big boys. I dont believe they are in the top 5 or 6. Just some big numbers being put out. Im not sure what they are missing. Maybe these guards have been overrated? I always hear about moser and thompson. Watched them three times last year and they got destroyed all three. Nice players and story for such a small school but i do know that there are levels to this thing.

Beck by the way is better than some of those names on that list 13th region put out. He may not be top 15 but neither were a handful of those kids on that list.
#19
Beck may be top 15 now. He just missed half his senior season though, so not a lot of time to prove it. Once you get past the top five, you could make a case for 20-25 guys depending on who plays well each night.
#20
This 13th Region Tournament could literally be anybody’s. It would not shock me to see any of the Top 6-7 teams win it. Every single team has strengths and weaknesses as cliche as that sounds. A lot of it has been touched on already. HC has the best player and experience, South is super talented, Corbin is balanced, Bell is good, North is big and athletic, and Clay is gritty and if it’s not a free throw contest they’re right there.
#21
Let's be real. Me, Keystone, and Cactus Jack could beat Pineville, even with Coach Cal coaching us up. There are four teams that I see winning three straight regional games. Harlan County, Corbin, Bell, and South. I'm not yet convinced that Clay or North can win three straight. They most definitely can pull out a win over any of the Big Four on a given night, however. Also, I love Maddox Huff but , for my money, Mabe is the region's best player In a one-on-one game to 21, Mabe wins 21-9 , maybe 21-3 .
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#22
(01-20-2025, 02:14 AM)Old School Hound Wrote: Let's be real. Me, Keystone, and Cactus Jack could beat Pineville, even with Coach Cal coaching us up. There are four teams that I see winning three straight regional games. Harlan County, Corbin,  Bell, and South.  I'm not yet convinced that Clay or North can win three straight. They most definitely can pull out a win over any of the Big Four on a given night, however.  Also, I love Maddox Huff but , for my money, Mabe is the region's best player In a one-on-one game to 21,  Mabe wins 21-9 , maybe 21-3 .

It’s all debatable for sure, top player and top team! The one thing I will say is that I believe this is a year that it will take a great job of coaching to win 3 straight 13th region tourney games and win that ticket to Rupp. A team could have to win 3 tough games in a row and it will take a coach that knows what he’s doing in big games and both Jones boys at HC and Clay Co have been apart of big games for most of their lives growing up with their dad who was a great coach and both played in many many big games and now have both coached in many big games themselves…….I think we could see an HC vs Clay Co in the finals this year…And I say Go Black Bears!!! ??

(01-20-2025, 03:19 AM)Black Bear Cuz Wrote:
(01-20-2025, 02:14 AM)Old School Hound Wrote: Let's be real. Me, Keystone, and Cactus Jack could beat Pineville, even with Coach Cal coaching us up. There are four teams that I see winning three straight regional games. Harlan County, Corbin,  Bell, and South.  I'm not yet convinced that Clay or North can win three straight. They most definitely can pull out a win over any of the Big Four on a given night, however.  Also, I love Maddox Huff but , for my money, Mabe is the region's best player In a one-on-one game to 21,  Mabe wins 21-9 , maybe 21-3 .

It’s all debatable for sure, top player and top team! The one thing I will say is that I believe this is a year that it will take a great job of coaching to win 3 straight 13th region tourney games and win that ticket to Rupp. A team could have to win 3 tough games in a row and it will take a coach that knows what he’s doing in big games and both Jones boys at HC and Clay Co have been apart of big games for most of their lives growing up with their dad who was a great coach and both played in many many big games and now have both coached in many big games themselves…….I think we could see HC vs Clay Co in the finals this year…And I say Go Black Bears!!! ??

Didn’t mean to post that last post twice, tried to edit the original post and accidentally clicked something and posted it twice and didn’t catch it til it was too late. Lol
#23
(01-20-2025, 02:14 AM)Old School Hound Wrote: Let's be real. Me, Keystone, and Cactus Jack could beat Pineville, even with Coach Cal coaching us up. There are four teams that I see winning three straight regional games. Harlan County, Corbin,  Bell, and South.  I'm not yet convinced that Clay or North can win three straight. They most definitely can pull out a win over any of the Big Four on a given night, however.  Also, I love Maddox Huff but , for my money, Mabe is the region's best player In a one-on-one game to 21,  Mabe wins 21-9 , maybe 21-3 .
It will come down to the draw, it always does unless there is a team that is just overly dominant. Last year HC was the best team head and shoulders above the rest, but had to play South, Clay, Corbin (the best of the rest). If they didn’t have trent noah, they lose. Corbin got the easiest draw in years, imagine that, and got bell and knox. This year the winner of the 52nd or 50th could have the hardest, or easiest draw ever. Let’s say the winner of the 52nd gets screwed. Here’s your potential scenario, if Harlan County wins the district…

District Final: Bell County 
First round: North/Clay
Second Round: South 
Championship: Bell or Corbin 

Hard to win those 4 in a row.
You can move a lot of teams into those slots, you can interchange Bell, South, Corbin, Harlan Co, Clay, and North in any order. I believe the team that wins the region this year is the team that gets a “bye” from playing the 51st, and then maybe gets a “less hard” game against North or Clay. If you gotta go through the tournament like Noah did, you won’t make it.
#24
(01-20-2025, 12:35 PM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote:
(01-20-2025, 02:14 AM)Old School Hound Wrote: Let's be real. Me, Keystone, and Cactus Jack could beat Pineville, even with Coach Cal coaching us up. There are four teams that I see winning three straight regional games. Harlan County, Corbin,  Bell, and South.  I'm not yet convinced that Clay or North can win three straight. They most definitely can pull out a win over any of the Big Four on a given night, however.  Also, I love Maddox Huff but , for my money, Mabe is the region's best player In a one-on-one game to 21,  Mabe wins 21-9 , maybe 21-3 .
It will come down to the draw, it always does unless there is a team that is just overly dominant. Last year HC was the best team head and shoulders above the rest, but had to play South, Clay, Corbin (the best of the rest). If they didn’t have trent noah, they lose. Corbin got the easiest draw in years, imagine that, and got bell and knox. This year the winner of the 52nd or 50th could have the hardest, or easiest draw ever. Let’s say the winner of the 52nd gets screwed. Here’s your potential scenario, if Harlan County wins the district…

District Final: Bell County 
First round: North/Clay
Second Round: South 
Championship: Bell or Corbin 

Hard to win those 4 in a row.
You can move a lot of teams into those slots, you can interchange Bell, South, Corbin, Harlan Co, Clay, and North in any order. I believe the team that wins the region this year is the team that gets a “bye” from playing the 51st, and then maybe gets a “less hard” game against North or Clay. If you gotta go through the tournament like Noah did, you won’t make it.
Thats the thing though, while Noah was a great player he had Huff. Every Batman has Robin. Too my knowledge their is no team in the 13th with a "Robin" this year so no team dominates. This year the draw(and the officials because this year I have seen murders committed on the floor with no call) is the most important its been in Years in my opinion. Mabe at SL is the one player who is able to completely change a game similiar to Noah--although his ability is on the Defensive end. And Offensively Huff if he gets hot from deep can carry a team although the Arena will not let a perimeter play win 3 in a row. For my money I believe this could be Bells year.
#25
If Corbin doesn't win it, I hope Bell does.

Btw, "Every Batman Has a Robin" would be a great rock song. Next year, Akins & Ellis could be Batman and Robin for the Hounds.
#26
(01-20-2025, 02:52 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: If Corbin doesn't win it, I hope Bell does.

Btw, "Every Batman Has a Robin" would be a great rock song.    Next year,  Akins & Ellis could be Batman and Robin for the Hounds.
Yes sir "Every Rose has its thorns" remix. But where does Eli come in lol, he can't be Batgirl. Hearing they got Ellis eligible finally? Also saw the kid from GA, he is a nonfactor, very raw from what I seen and definately doesn't have the meat to battle in the 13th.
#27
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(01-20-2025, 02:52 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: If Corbin doesn't win it, I hope Bell does.

Btw, "Every Batman Has a Robin" would be a great rock song.    Next year,  Akins & Ellis could be Batman and Robin for the Hounds.
Yes sir "Every Rose has its thorns" remix. But where does Eli come in lol, he can't be Batgirl. Hearing they got Ellis eligible finally? Also saw the kid from GA, he is a nonfactor, very raw from what I seen and definately doesn't have the meat to battle in the 13th.


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#28
That is some stellar work old school! Eli the rim protector has a nice ring. I would be surprised if ellis plays against whitley. Its hard to know when these kids will actually play.
#29
(01-20-2025, 07:17 PM)Keystone12 Wrote: That is some stellar work old school! Eli the rim protector has a nice ring. I would be surprised if ellis plays against whitley. Its hard to know when these kids will actually play.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Sure would be interesting, though, if Ellis is on the court at Whitley tomorrow night wearing red.
#30
It will be interesting. Im sure the students at whitley will be relentless. It will be interesting when and if he matches up with the kid he had trouble with. I understand that kid is whitleys best player. I think ellis is twice the player in my opinion. I dont think whitley will have anything for the hounds. Corbin will dominate the 50th for the foreseeable future.

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