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Best Performance by two Players in the Same Game Ever in KY HS Football???
#1
I got to wondering, were the performances by Elam and McCourt  , in the Corbin-Johnson Central game,  the best by two players in the same game you can ever remember? I've been at this for over 50 years and I don't know if I can remember two guys that simply couldn't be stopped by the opposing team, Elam threw for 6 scores , threw for over 400 yards, and ran for over 100 yards and two more TDs. That's 8 TDs he had a hand in.  McCourt ran for over 400 yards and had, what, 4TDs, maybe more. These two put on a show. they are both top five at their respective positions, imo,  in the state. Maybe even higher than that. 

Is this the best two player performance you can ever remember in a KY HS football game?
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#2
Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).
#3
I think for me, this was the best offensive game I have witnessed!!!
#4
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).

Forgot about that one. That was epic, as well.  Can you think of a better performance by eastern KY kids than Elam/McCourt?

How do you think these two youngsters rank , respective to their positions, in the state ? Which quarterbacks are clearly better than KId Elam? What running backs are clearly better than young Mr.McCourt?
#5
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).
This.

Plus these 2 teams could actually play defense.
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#6
2011 playoffs Conner/Franklin County Conner won 84-48

Conner had something like 775 yards rushing. I think still a state record for most rushing yards in one game.

For Conner:

Drew Barker 26 rushes for 225 yards rushing 4 TD's, 95 yards passing 1 TD
Jesse McKeehan 13 rushes for 250 yards rushing 3 TD's

Franklin County
Ryan Timmons 350 yards rushing 4 TD's, 280 yards receiving 2 TD's

(10-05-2024, 03:50 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: I got to wondering, were the performances by Elam and McCourt  , in the Corbin-Johnson Central game,  the best by two players in the same game you can ever remember? I've been at this for over 50 years and I don't know if I can remember two guys that simply couldn't be stopped by the opposing team, Elam threw for 6 scores , threw for over 400 yards, and ran for over 100 yards and two more TDs. That's 8 TDs he had a hand in.  McCourt ran for over 400 yards and had, what, 4TDs, maybe more. These two put on a show. they are both top five at their respective positions, imo,  in the state. Maybe even higher than that. 

Is this the best two player performance you can ever remember in a KY HS football game?
That is an incredible stat line!!
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(10-05-2024, 05:08 PM)IAM22 Wrote: 2011 playoffs Conner/Franklin County Conner won 84-48

Conner had something like 775 yards rushing. I think still a state record for most rushing yards in one game.

For Conner:

Drew Barker 26 rushes for 225 yards rushing 4 TD's, 95 yards passing 1 TD
Jesse McKeehan 13 rushes for 250 yards rushing 3 TD's

Franklin County
Ryan Timmons 350 yards rushing 4 TD's, 280 yards receiving 2 TD's

(10-05-2024, 03:50 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: I got to wondering, were the performances by Elam and McCourt  , in the Corbin-Johnson Central game,  the best by two players in the same game you can ever remember? I've been at this for over 50 years and I don't know if I can remember two guys that simply couldn't be stopped by the opposing team, Elam threw for 6 scores , threw for over 400 yards, and ran for over 100 yards and two more TDs. That's 8 TDs he had a hand in.  McCourt ran for over 400 yards and had, what, 4TDs, maybe more. These two put on a show. they are both top five at their respective positions, imo,  in the state. Maybe even higher than that. 

Is this the best two player performance you can ever remember in a KY HS football game?
That is an incredible stat line!!

I would love to see these other games being mentioned!!! Reckon there is film of them? If they are I’d like a link. I’d watch them!!
#8
This is the best 2 player performance I've witnessed personally,  last night.
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#9
Lawrence County beat Western Hills 78-74 in a playoff game in 2018.  Noah West had 393 yards rushing and 7 touchdowns.  Wandale Robinson had over 400 yards total offense and 4 touchdowns.
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#10
I didn't watch the game, nor really follow it. These are impressive stats. To answer this question I have to ask, how did the defenses play? I don't mean this to diminish what these two athletes accomplished. They deserve all the praise! But for me to say that it is the best in KY HS football history, I think the quality of defense a QB is playing against really has to be taken into consideration. If they were both very good, quality defenses then I will agree. If not, I need to give it some more thought.

Still, congrats to both players for an incredible game. I wish I could have seen it!
#11
(10-05-2024, 04:54 PM)jetpilot Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).
This.

Plus these 2 teams could actually play defense.


The NO DEFENSE Redhounds almost shut your team out.
#12
There was a random Prestonsburg/Pike Central game that comes to mind around 2012 or later.

I think Jarredd Jarrell threw for like 700 yard and 9 TDs.
Pike Central’s QB threw for 500 yards but if I remember right they scored all the TDs on the ground.
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(10-05-2024, 04:01 PM)Old School Hound Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).

Forgot about that one. That was epic, as well.  Can you think of a better performance by eastern KY kids than Elam/McCourt?

How do you think these two youngsters rank , respective to their positions, in the state ?  Which quarterbacks are clearly better than KId Elam?  What running backs are clearly better than young Mr.McCourt?
IMO, there is no high school running back in Kentucky clearly better than McCoart and there is no clearly better high school quarterback in the state than Elam. Of course, there are better college prospects at running back than McCoart because there are bigger, faster running backs in the state and colleges recruit by metrics, but no running back is clearly better playing against quality competition. 

I don't feel qualified to say how Elam stacks up as a college prospect, if he chose to continue playing football at a D1 level, but he certainly passes the eye test in terms of size, arm strength, accuracy, and speed.

As a team, I believe that Johnson Central has the best team rushing offense in the history of the school. Johnson Central may have rushed for the most yardage in school history against Corbin (if not it was the second most yardage), and the fact that they still lost illustrates just how good Corbin's passing offense is this season. IMO, it is as good or better than any of the Covington Catholic and Highlands teams' passing offenses that I have seen play against Johnson Central over the years.

Johnson Central's passing defense has to improve or either Ashland or Covington Catholic will eliminate them from the playoffs, because I doubt that Johnson Central will match its rushing performance the rest of this season.
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#14
really the true question is..... are these the worst defensive performances ever? The Franklin County game mentioned was just terrible defense........ FC didn't even line up right the whole night.... embarrassing moment in FC HISTORY
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(10-06-2024, 10:30 AM)FCSPY Wrote: really the true question is..... are these the worst defensive performances ever? The Franklin County game mentioned was just terrible defense........ FC didn't even line up right the whole night.... embarrassing moment in FC HISTORY
The game showed that Corbin cannot slow down the top rushing offense in the state. Johnson Central has shown that it cannot stop a top-flight passing offense. So, if your implication is that Corbin and Johnson Central's offensive display was due to playing very weak defenses, then you are wrong, IMO. Obviously, Corbin does not have one of the better rushing defenses in the state and Johnson Central does not have one of the better passing defenses in the state, but this game was a case of great offense exploiting specific weaknesses in each other's defenses. Johnson Central's rushing defense contained everybody but Elam and Corbin's passing defense played well against Johnson Central, although JC did not pass often. There are many instances of worse defensive performances every week in Kentucky, but most of those games also feature weak offenses.

If you watched the game, then you would have noticed that McCoart broke multiple tackles and many of his runs. That is what McCoart is known for - he is very difficult to bring down one-on-one. McCoart worked very hard for every yard. You would also have seen the pinpoint accuracy of Elam's passes, even under heavy pressure on many plays. Elam gets rid of the ball very quickly on short routes, and he scrambles and throws downfield very well when he is chased out of the pocket.

I don't expect that Johnson Central will match its rushing yardage total against Corbin the rest of the season, because teams will not score against them as quickly as the Redhounds did and because they will not face a kicker that puts kick-offs into the endzone as consistently as Corbin's kicker did. When almost every drive starts on your own 20-yard line, that gives a team plenty of opportunities to pile up yardage, which is one of the reasons that Johnson Central ran for over 600 yards. 

In games where both teams truly have bad defenses, you see players breaking long plays untouched until they are tackled or score. There was plenty of contact made by both teams' defenses Friday night.
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#16
(10-06-2024, 12:26 AM)Old School Hound Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 04:54 PM)jetpilot Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).
This.

Plus these 2 teams could actually play defense.


The NO DEFENSE Redhounds almost shut your team out.

You've been calling for the DC's head all year I don't think you can remember what you spew from one day to the next.
#17
(10-05-2024, 06:40 PM)The Red Eminence Wrote: I didn't watch the game, nor really follow it. These are impressive stats. To answer this question I have to ask, how did the defenses play? I don't mean this to diminish what these two athletes accomplished. They deserve all the praise! But for me to say that it is the best in KY HS football history, I think the quality of defense a QB is playing against really has to be taken into consideration. If they were both very good, quality defenses then I will agree. If not, I need to give it some more thought.

Still, congrats to both players for an incredible game. I wish I could have seen it!

Neither team appeared to have defensive answers for the other's offense.  And I hope I don't offend anybody because you guys know it's the truth.
Johnson Central ran the ball down Corbin's throat, the whole game.  JC's has great defense against a running team.  Probably because they practice against one of the best running teams in the state.
Corbin leisurely passed over JC's head all night.  Corbin probably has good passing defense because of what I said earlier, but they could not stop the train that was JC's running game.
Both teams left it all on the field that night.  I was so proud of the heart and effort and work ethic of them all.
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(10-06-2024, 10:30 AM)FCSPY Wrote: really the true question is..... are these the worst defensive performances ever? The Franklin County game mentioned was just terrible defense........ FC didn't even line up right the whole night.... embarrassing moment in FC HISTORY

Pretty terrible defensive performance on both parts. I would say Corbin had close to 30-40 missed tackles, and JC consistently gave up YAC because they couldn't tackle.
#19
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).

I witnessed this with my own eyes.
never been another one like it
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#20
Best offensive game by both teams I covered was 2014 Danville-LCA. 58-57 and game took about 4 hours, maybe more.
Danville 619 yards of offense
Zack Dampier 450 yards, 4 TDs passing; Trent Johnson 237 receiving yards and 2 TDs

LCA 543 yards of offense
Nick Whitman 317 rushing yards, 6 TDS
Dima Ballard: 113 passing yards, 112 rushing yards, 2 total TDs

Very fun back and forth game.
Saw Boyle and Catholic get into a playoff shootout one year too, but this game really stands out for me.
#21
(10-06-2024, 12:17 PM)Granny Bear Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 06:40 PM)The Red Eminence Wrote: I didn't watch the game, nor really follow it. These are impressive stats. To answer this question I have to ask, how did the defenses play? I don't mean this to diminish what these two athletes accomplished. They deserve all the praise! But for me to say that it is the best in KY HS football history, I think the quality of defense a QB is playing against really has to be taken into consideration. If they were both very good, quality defenses then I will agree. If not, I need to give it some more thought.

Still, congrats to both players for an incredible game. I wish I could have seen it!

Neither team appeared to have defensive answers for the other's offense.  And I hope I don't offend anybody because you guys know it's the truth.
Johnson Central ran the ball down Corbin's throat, the whole game.  JC's has great defense against a running team.  Probably because they practice against one of the best running teams in the state.
Corbin leisurely passed over JC's head all night.  Corbin probably has good passing defense because of what I said earlier, but they could not stop the train that was JC's running game.
Both teams left it all on the field that night.  I was so proud of the heart and effort and work ethic of them all.
You hit the nail on the head, Granny. Great running teams usually have a strong defense against running offenses because they  can simulate the offense of another great running team in practice, but they cannot prepare as well for a great passing team. The same goes for great passing teams. No program is without its weaknesses. Over the years, IMO, Franklin County, Boyle County, and Highlands have defended Johnson Central's offense the best, probably because those teams ran balanced offenses themselves. 

Johnson Central rushed for 628 yards against Corbin, which is the most any JC team has ever had in a single game. JC is on pace to shatter the average rushing yards per game for a season. They may fall short of the record because of potential running clock games and the possibility that the Golden Eagles may pass more in the next couple of games to prepare for the playoffs.
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#22
(10-06-2024, 05:48 PM)RunItUpTheGut Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).

I witnessed this with my own eyes.
never been another one like it
I was there as well. Man it was FREEZING outside that day. I was rooting for Male and Bush hard, but they just couldn't make it happen.
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#23
(10-07-2024, 03:18 PM)know1 Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 05:48 PM)RunItUpTheGut Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).

I witnessed this with my own eyes.
never been another one like it
I was there as well. Man it was FREEZING outside that day. I was rooting for Male and Bush hard, but they just couldn't make it happen.

wind was so cold that day. I do remember eating ice cream though lol
#24
(10-05-2024, 04:54 PM)jetpilot Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).
This.

Plus these 2 teams could actually play defense.
59-56 is worse than 56-51 lol. looks like no defense was played in either game??!!
#25
(10-08-2024, 02:19 PM)TheBigDIll Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 04:54 PM)jetpilot Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).
This.

Plus these 2 teams could actually play defense.
59-56 is worse than 56-51 lol. looks like no defense was played in either game??!!
Looks like somebody missed my point completely??!!
#26
(10-08-2024, 02:19 PM)TheBigDIll Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 04:54 PM)jetpilot Wrote:
(10-05-2024, 03:53 PM)know1 Wrote: Bush and Brohm state championship early 2000s.

Found this:
Brohm completed 19 of 25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns. His gorgeous scoring strikes came from 32, 72, 45, 18, 36, 77 and 85 yards out. He also ran for an additional 52 yards and another score. Bush was 33-of-47 for 468 yards and six touchdowns while carrying the ball 24 times for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Score was 59-56. Played in really cold weather with snow outside (not on the field).
This.

Plus these 2 teams could actually play defense.
59-56 is worse than 56-51 lol. looks like no defense was played in either game??!!
If you'd seen that Trinity v Male game, you'd know that is wrong.

But even it it wasn't, the stats put up by those two are much better than those in this Corbin v JC game.
#27
Bush and Brohm. No doubt!
#28
A team can't have a historically good offensive performance without making the other team's defense look bad. The same goes for great defensive efforts. I would give the edge to Brohm and Bush because their performances came in a state finals game in Kentucky's biggest class. However, to say that the performances by Elam and McCoart were due to poor defense by both teams, and argue that the same wasn't true for the performances by Brohm and Bush makes no sense. People will remember the offensive numbers of these two games for years, but no sane person is going to think that any of the four teams' defenses played well.
#29
Best performances I’ve watched in person that I can think of was in 2011 when Hazard played Pikeville in the State Semifinals and Zack Blanton rushed for 301 yards on 26 carries for 301 yards and 3 touchdowns, also while Jordan Olinger had 3 catches for 44 yards and a touchdown, but he also has 2 INTs for 125 yards and 2 Touchdowns. Fellow Senior BJ Combs after this win against Pikeville, stood at midfield and basically guaranteed a win the following week in the finals. Hazard did just that with a what considered an upset win over Mayfield 24-6.
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#30
^^^Hoot you missed the point. Trinity and Male put up those numbers vs. very good defenses. JC and Corbin didn't.

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