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10-22-2019, 04:11 AM
I have been under the impression that the final 8 teams would be seeded statewide but I talked to one of Boyle’s coaches this afternoon and he said that the regionals would be seeded East and West and the final four or semifinals would be seeded statewide and he went on to say that the only way Boyle and Johnson Central would play each other would be in the semifinals and if Boyle wins their final two games it would be played at Boyle County, he also said the seeding stops at the end of the regular season.
Is this the way everyone else see’s this playing out.
Is this the way everyone else see’s this playing out.
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10-22-2019, 04:42 AM
If both teams are 1 and 2 in the RPI after the final rpi rankings come out there's no possible way they could play until the finals is my understanding.
10-22-2019, 04:45 AM
It is possible they play 3rd round since Boyle is district 5 and JC is district 8. Both are in the east but I see the 4 teams in the east being Boyle, JC, Scott, and the winner of the Wayne/Corbin game. As long as both win out I dont see how either could not be 1 or 2.
10-22-2019, 04:59 AM
If the RPI holds true it'll be this way on the East for Regional Titles.
Wayne Co @ Boyle Co
Johnson Central @ Franklin Co
However the 2/3 Seed is very close with JC/FC.
From what I can tell...these are the top 4 seeds in 4A so the west would be on the road in the semi-state. Meaning if RPI were to hold true Boyle Co and Franklin Co would host the semistate.
Wayne Co @ Boyle Co
Johnson Central @ Franklin Co
However the 2/3 Seed is very close with JC/FC.
From what I can tell...these are the top 4 seeds in 4A so the west would be on the road in the semi-state. Meaning if RPI were to hold true Boyle Co and Franklin Co would host the semistate.
10-22-2019, 05:03 AM
I think people get too caught up in the RPI ratings. These are ratings, not rankings. Kentucky Country Day has the highest overall RPI in the state with Pikeville at 2. Trinity is 42 as of now. Of course the 1a schools are probably going to have a higher rpi due to the fact you get more points for playing up in class. 15% per class you play up. 6a schools don't have the opportunity to play up since they are the largest schools. Every game a 1a plays out of class and wins is bonus points for them. 3a schools like Belfry only get bonus points for winning against a class 4a, 5a, or 6a school. JC and Southwestern are the only 2 teams on Belfry's schedule that are higher in class with JC 4a and SW 5a so this means that they could receive 45% if they won.
10-22-2019, 05:07 AM
I got a question for you guys. It has nothing to do with seeding but WHEN the district champion will be crowned.
Their was a debate in the Martin County @ West Carter thread.
One guy said that the district champion wouldn't be crowned until after the 2nd round of the playoffs was completed.
I said that the district champ would be decided same as always, at the end of the regular season. And that's how they would also seed for rounds 1 and 2.
Which one of us was right? If I was wrong, then I'm more confused than what I thought with this new system!
Their was a debate in the Martin County @ West Carter thread.
One guy said that the district champion wouldn't be crowned until after the 2nd round of the playoffs was completed.
I said that the district champ would be decided same as always, at the end of the regular season. And that's how they would also seed for rounds 1 and 2.
Which one of us was right? If I was wrong, then I'm more confused than what I thought with this new system!
10-22-2019, 05:14 AM
Regular season district champion will be decided once all district games are played which for most teams is this Friday. If you win in week 2 it means you won the playoff district. For example, if Pike Central wins Friday they will be the district champ and will host 1st round and if they win 2nd round as well. If Belfry wins their first 2 playoff games then they would be playoff district champ. If Belfry wins Friday then they will host the loser of the Floyd Central and Lawrence while PC host the winner. The 2 winners would then play with Belfry hosting assuming they beat Floyd Central which is almost automatic.
10-22-2019, 05:16 AM
pirateforlife Wrote:Regular season district champion will be decided once all district games are played which for most teams is this Friday. If you win in week 2 it means you won the playoff district. For example, if Pike Central wins Friday they will be the district champ and will host 1st round and if they win 2nd round as well. If Belfry wins their first 2 playoff games then they would be playoff district champ. If Belfry wins Friday then they will host the loser of the Floyd Central and Lawrence while PC host the winner. The 2 winners would then play with Belfry hosting assuming they beat Floyd Central which is almost automatic.
That's exactly what I thought but it looks like I was wrong.
10-22-2019, 05:17 AM
#55PirateFan Wrote:I got a question for you guys. It has nothing to do with seeding but WHEN the district champion will be crowned.
Their was a debate in the Martin County @ West Carter thread.
One guy said that the district champion wouldn't be crowned until after the 2nd round of the playoffs was completed.
I said that the district champ would be decided same as always, at the end of the regular season. And that's how they would also seed for rounds 1 and 2.
Which one of us was right? If I was wrong, then I'm more confused than what I thought with this new system!
From my understanding, it's just like baseball and basketball. The District Champion will get their trophy in the playoffs by whoever advances on to the Regional Championship (3rd round).
10-22-2019, 05:19 AM
FoSho Wrote:From my understanding, it's just like baseball and basketball. The District Champion will get their trophy in the playoffs by whoever advances on to the Regional Championship (3rd round).
Then if that's the case, I was wrong. I don't know what's going on now!
10-22-2019, 05:24 AM
What did you think it was. Its possible to have a different district champion in the playoffs than the regular season. For example in 2a district 4, it's likely that LCA wins the regular season district title since they beat Somerset Friday. They will likely play each other again and LCA will host as the district champ. If Somerset wins the rematch then they would be considered the district champ in the playoffs. Don't over think it.
10-22-2019, 05:31 AM
FoSho Wrote:From what I've heard, the KHSAA wanted to make the playoffs just like other sports. District, Region, SemiState and Champion.
But I would bet my life on it.
I wouldn't bet a pack of bubble gum on what the KHSAA might do, let alone my life! 😂
10-22-2019, 05:36 AM
RoShamBo Wrote:Unless they've changed it, the original RPI format had the RPI numbers locked after week 11. So whatever your RPI is after your last game is what it'll be for the remainder of the playoffs.
True statement...which is why it looks as if in 4A, the East will host BOTH semistate games.
10-22-2019, 09:05 AM
My thoughts on the RPI is this, why donât the KHSAA do away with districts all together and go straight RPI rankings. Talk about match-ups. Make it to where every games counts. In a perfect world you would get great games somewhere in the state every week. Coaches have a decision to make. Do we schedule cupcakes and go 10-0 or do we play a good schedule go 6-4 with a better RPI and thus have a better seed in playoffs? I know the logistics of it make it impossible but it would be interesting to see how it would all play out. That is all. Thank you guys for listening.
10-22-2019, 10:38 AM
1. There is a difference in “district champ” and “number one seed”. District champs are crowned after the second round of the playoffs. Seeds, within your districts, determine the first round matchups.
2. The RPI does stop at the end of the regular season and is used starting in round 3.
3. There is no EAST/West will automatically host in the semis. It goes statewide at that point. 4 overall travels to 1 and 3 goes to 2. Hypothetically, Franklin County could be 2 and if so they would host a semi. The only way you are guaranteed to “host” all the way through the playoffs is if you finish the regular season 1 or 2 in your class.
4. Franklin County is in the West.
5. The most likely Boyle/JC matchup is in the finals. If JC ends up 2/3, which is most likely, they would either host 3 in the semis or travel to 2. The only way, if Boyle remains 1, that they meet before Lexington is if JC would somehow fall to 4 overall then they would travel to Boyle in the semis. That is unlikely, but that is the path for the Boyle and JC matchups.
2. The RPI does stop at the end of the regular season and is used starting in round 3.
3. There is no EAST/West will automatically host in the semis. It goes statewide at that point. 4 overall travels to 1 and 3 goes to 2. Hypothetically, Franklin County could be 2 and if so they would host a semi. The only way you are guaranteed to “host” all the way through the playoffs is if you finish the regular season 1 or 2 in your class.
4. Franklin County is in the West.
5. The most likely Boyle/JC matchup is in the finals. If JC ends up 2/3, which is most likely, they would either host 3 in the semis or travel to 2. The only way, if Boyle remains 1, that they meet before Lexington is if JC would somehow fall to 4 overall then they would travel to Boyle in the semis. That is unlikely, but that is the path for the Boyle and JC matchups.
10-22-2019, 10:55 AM
Also JC and Boyle could meet in the third round at Boyle but JC would have to fall to 4th in the East and that is also unlikely.
10-22-2019, 12:14 PM
bucslover68 Wrote:1. There is a difference in âdistrict champâ and ânumber one seedâ. District champs are crowned after the second round of the playoffs. Seeds, within your districts, determine the first round matchups.is there not more than 4 teams left in any given class in round 3? So I am confused about how there would be 4 seeds statewide in a given class.
2. The RPI does stop at the end of the regular season and is used starting in round 3.
3. There is no EAST/West will automatically host in the semis. It goes statewide at that point. 4 overall travels to 1 and 3 goes to 2. Hypothetically, Franklin County could be 2 and if so they would host a semi. The only way you are guaranteed to âhostâ all the way through the playoffs is if you finish the regular season 1 or 2 in your class.
4. Franklin County is in the West.
5. The most likely Boyle/JC matchup is in the finals. If JC ends up 2/3, which is most likely, they would either host 3 in the semis or travel to 2. The only way, if Boyle remains 1, that they meet before Lexington is if JC would somehow fall to 4 overall then they would travel to Boyle in the semis. That is unlikely, but that is the path for the Boyle and JC matchups.
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10-22-2019, 01:12 PM
The key to what coach told me was the RPI stops at the end of the regular season, and I think coach is right seeding will not start until The semifinals I’m sure his information came from the KHSAA.
10-22-2019, 01:16 PM
TheBrahmaBull Wrote:is there not more than 4 teams left in any given class in round 3? So I am confused about how there would be 4 seeds statewide in a given class.
There are 8 teams in the quarterfinals. 8 district champions split as 1-4 in the west and 1-4 in the East. In the semis there is no East and West. Itâs 1-4 statewide. Hypothetically Belfry could go to Tilghman if the RPI dictates it.
10-22-2019, 01:17 PM
Jack Lambert Wrote:The key to what coach told me was the RPI stops at the end of the regular season.
It does. But for BC and JC to meet in the semis as you said the coach was saying....assuming BC is the 1...JC would have to be the 4 and I just don’t see that. JC will more than likely be 2/3 based on what is likely to happen.
10-22-2019, 01:34 PM
bucslover68 Wrote:1. There is a difference in âdistrict champâ and ânumber one seedâ. District champs are crowned after the second round of the playoffs. Seeds, within your districts, determine the first round matchups.
2. The RPI does stop at the end of the regular season and is used starting in round 3.
3. There is no EAST/West will automatically host in the semis. It goes statewide at that point. 4 overall travels to 1 and 3 goes to 2. Hypothetically, Franklin County could be 2 and if so they would host a semi. The only way you are guaranteed to âhostâ all the way through the playoffs is if you finish the regular season 1 or 2 in your class.
4. Franklin County is in the West.
5. The most likely Boyle/JC matchup is in the finals. If JC ends up 2/3, which is most likely, they would either host 3 in the semis or travel to 2. The only way, if Boyle remains 1, that they meet before Lexington is if JC would somehow fall to 4 overall then they would travel to Boyle in the semis. That is unlikely, but that is the path for the Boyle and JC matchups.
All of what you said is correct I got a little ahead of myself on the seeding / and Franklin being in the East.
Wayne Co / Corbin will most likely travel to Johnson Central and Cov Scott to Boyle Co in the Region (East) matchups.
10-22-2019, 01:39 PM
Jack Lambert Wrote:The key to what coach told me was the RPI stops at the end of the regular season, and I think coach is right seeding will not start until The semifinals Iâm sure his information came from the KHSAA.
Seeding starts in the quarters but is bound geographically. 1-4 in the west(districts 1-4) and 1-4 in the East(districts 5-8). Then in the semis itâs statewide....no geographical boundaries. 1 hosts 4, 2 hosts 3. I think people get confused by not separating what happens in the quarterfinals and the semis. There is NO âcoming out of the west champâ versus the âcoming out of the East champ.â For example in 1a.... Pikeville and Paintsville could theoretically play for a state championship and they are 40 miles apart.
10-22-2019, 01:44 PM
FoSho Wrote:All of what you said is correct I got a little ahead of myself on the seeding / and Franklin being in the East.
Wayne Co / Corbin will most likely travel to Johnson Central and Cov Scott to Boyle Co in the Region (East) matchups.
Yes that is the âchalkâ... the most likely scenario.
10-22-2019, 02:09 PM
FoSho Wrote:The East could host both semis if JC passes FC in RPI. Which would LIKELY put FC @ JC and one of these teams (Hoptown, Logan Co or Madisonville) traveling to BC.
Definitely could happen.
10-22-2019, 02:18 PM
FoSho Wrote:How is it looking in 3A?
Still a lot to be determined. Belfry can get a huge boost if they were to beat both Pike Central and JC. Tilghman and Bell and Ashland and Mercer with Desales and I still believe CAL are in the mix with Russell and Etown right behind. It is not anywhere as clear as 4a IMO. It makes my head hurt . Glasgow is another nice dark horse. They basically had South Warren beat. Bardstown played Pikeville really good for 3 qtrs at Pikeville and they haven’t lost since.
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