[postman]

Just curious. Can Anyone tell me this ? Or is there not a Penalty. Thanks!

[postman]

I'm saying if you have Audio-video conversation. ? What is the penalty? Thanks !

[postman]

Is it a federal offense ? Or what??

[Big Hammer]

You're going somewhere with this. Looking back at your posts it's pretty easy to figure out where. I'm pretty sure the moderators are fed up so let's just see how far they allow you to go.

[Redneck]

If you actually have real evidence, report/present it to the KHSAA and Jody Tackett. Not too long ago there a few referees in the 13th or 14th that got in trouble for gambling on games, or something along this lines, if I remember correctly.

[Dietpepsidrinker]

I'm not sure what the KHSAA penalty is but there is a KRS dealing with it.

[Willie Turnover]

You will not be eligible to be inducted into the baseball hall of fame.

[rojas]

If you actually have real evidence, report/present it to the KHSAA and Jody Tackett. Not too long ago there a few referees in the 13th or 14th that got in trouble for gambling on games, or something along this lines, if I remember correctly.

Referees were actually caught gambling on games at least twice that I know of. Once was in Hazard. There was a pot that would have between $50,000 and $80,000 to those that could predict the most regional winners.

On the second occasion, referees were caught by the Lexington police running a sports book on Sweet 16 games out of a local hotel.

I don't know if the KHSAA did anything other than a "good talking to" or "slap on the wrist" to the officials. They continued to officiate high school basketball games.

[stripedofficial]

Saying a sweet 16 pot is gambling is the same as filling out a bracket every yr and throwing 10 bucks in an office pool.
Gambling? Maybe.
But def not the way your making it out to be.

What advantage does a ref have in picking region winners?

[Granny Bear]

Well, if you are throwing $10 into an office pool, and that pool totals $50K+, you must be working in an office that employees a whole lot of folks.

Also, running a book on the Sweet 16 games out of a hotel is not only gambling, but it is illegal gambling.

Lastly, if I have to explain to you why it's an issue that these types of things are initiated and promoted by officials, then I'm wasting my time.

[stripedofficial]

Please explain. A $50 office pool that picks region winners. If the total pool is $50,000 or $50. Whats the difference? Because more people enter its worse?

Please do explain. I never said anything about them running an actual book out of games. That is wrong. Way wrong. There should never be a line on a hs game.

Picking region winners or brackets in college is in no way the same as makig a line and taking bets on individual games.

[stripedofficial]

And its not promoted by officals in any way.
And has been running since about 1967. Almost everyone in the county puts in at least one card.

[rojas]

Saying a sweet 16 pot is gambling is the same as filling out a bracket every yr and throwing 10 bucks in an office pool.
Gambling? Maybe.
But def not the way your making it out to be.

What advantage does a ref have in picking region winners?

I think you are WAY off-base here. Do you really think that if Joe Ref from the 14th Region is sent to a neighboring region to officiate the Regional Tournament and he potentially has about $80,000 riding on the outcome of the game, that might have the least little effect on if that was a block or a charge?

You obviously have more confidence in the honesty of the gambling officials than I do.

[rojas]

Well, if you are throwing $10 into an office pool, and that pool totals $50K+, you must be working in an office that employees a whole lot of folks.

Also, running a book on the Sweet 16 games out of a hotel is not only gambling, but it is illegal gambling.

Lastly, if I have to explain to you why it's an issue that these types of things are initiated and promoted by officials, then I'm wasting my time.

You are dead on with your remarks above. The Sweet 16 pool mentioned above was ran out of a Hazard bar for decades. I don't know how it is now but in the 80s it cost $50 to enter the pool. The participant picked the Sweet 16 teams before the district tournaments started. You could enter as many times as you liked. They would normally get between 1,000 and 1,500 entries. Several referees participated. At one time they were busted, not for illegal gambling, but for tax evasion. The winners were not paying income tax on the winnings.

[rojas]

And its not promoted by officals in any way.
And has been running since about 1967. Almost everyone in the county puts in at least one card.

So you honestly don't think there is anything wrong with a referee calling a game that the outcome could possibly benefit him financially?

[kai]

518.050 Receiving sports bribe.
(1) A person is guilty of receiving a sports bribe when:
(a) Being a sports participant, he knowingly solicits, accepts or agrees to accept
any benefit from another person upon an agreement or understanding that he
will thereby be influenced not to give his best efforts in a sports contest; or
(b) Being a sports official, he knowingly solicits, accepts or agrees to accept any
benefit from another person upon an agreement or understanding that he will
perform his duties improperly.
(2) Receiving a sports bribe is a Class D felony.

[zaga_fan]

Thanks, kai.
Looks like we're done here.