[bac2369]

1 Johnson Central
2 Franklin Simpson
3 South Warren
3 Wayne Co
5 Hopkinsville
6 Spencer Co
7 Knox Central
7 Shelby Co
9 Collins
9 Rockcastle Co

What's your thoughts?

[E's Army]

Beware Wayne. Fear the Rock.

[LWC]

The longer the season goes the better I believe that Rock, Wayne, and Knox are. I would leave the top 10 things exactly as they are. The Rock vs. Wayne game could really shake up the top 10

[ROCKSOLID69]

No way Shelby county, Collins, or spencer county should be above Rockcastle right now.

[groundattack]

No way Shelby county, Collins, or spencer county should be above Rockcastle right now.

That is probably a topic that can be debated. Spencer is 5-1 with its only loss being to 3A top 5 Bardstown. I wouldn't think that it is totally unreasonable for Spencer to be ranked above Rockcastle.

[LWC]

That is probably a topic that can be debated. Spencer is 5-1 with its only loss being to 3A top 5 Bardstown. I wouldn't think that it is totally unreasonable for Spencer to be ranked above Rockcastle.

They beat who? Rock has smoked a good Garrard County team and beat Somerset. If I remember correctly Spencer County beat East Jessamine (who is in Rock's region) by one point. This same EJ team lost to Garrard County at home by 2 TD's.

Before you say it, I know that comparing scores isn't an exact science but when the two teams have not played head-to-head it has to suffice.

[Tommy2tone]

IMO
1. Franklin Simpson
2. Johnson Central
3. Wayne
4. S. Warren
5. Spencer
6. Hopkinsville
7. Collins
8. John Hardin
9. Shelby
10. Rockcastle

[Eagle84]

First, let me say that I do not put much into the rankings. When the dust is settled and the games played it will be clear who the # 1 team is.

Just looking at FS & JC schedule it appears that max prep shows JC’s strength of schedule is sufficiently better.

Before everyone reacts to the above statement here are the max prep numbers:

Franklin-Simpson 585 National Ranking
Portland TN 10216 National Ranking
Caldwell County 2583 National Ranking
Metcalfe County 756 National Ranking
Greenwood 1129 National Ranking
Monroe County 8386 National Ranking
South Warren 1475 National Ranking

Johnson Central 368 National Ranking
Capital 884 National Ranking
Lexington Catholic 3176 National Ranking
South Charleston 2901 National Ranking
Harlan County 6679 National Ranking
Boyd County 7749 National Ranking

Total on FS’s teams they have played 31,252 divided by 6 gets you the average strength of their opponent which is 5208.

Total on JC’s teams they have played 21389 divided by 5 gets you the average strength of their opponent which is 4277.

[Fly Like a Duck]

John Hardin is 3-3 against a schedule of BG, PRP along with all of Class 6A District 2 and they aren't ranked in this??

[pjdoug]

First, let me say that I do not put much into the rankings. When the dust is settled and the games played it will be clear who the # 1 team is.

Just looking at FS & JC schedule it appears that max prep shows JC’s strength of schedule is sufficiently better.

Before everyone reacts to the above statement here are the max prep numbers:

Franklin-Simpson 585 National Ranking
Portland TN 10216 National Ranking
Caldwell County 2583 National Ranking
Metcalfe County 756 National Ranking
Greenwood 1129 National Ranking
Monroe County 8386 National Ranking
South Warren 1475 National Ranking

Johnson Central 368 National Ranking
Capital 884 National Ranking
Lexington Catholic 3176 National Ranking
South Charleston 2901 National Ranking
Harlan County 6679 National Ranking
Boyd County 7749 National Ranking

Total on FS’s teams they have played 31,252 divided by 6 gets you the average strength of their opponent which is 5208.

Total on JC’s teams they have played 21389 divided by 5 gets you the average strength of their opponent which is 4277.

The national rankings are especially comical.

[groundattack]

They beat who? Rock has smoked a good Garrard County team and beat Somerset. If I remember correctly Spencer County beat East Jessamine (who is in Rock's region) by one point. This same EJ team lost to Garrard County at home by 2 TD's.

Before you say it, I know that comparing scores isn't an exact science but when the two teams have not played head-to-head it has to suffice.

All I can say is Spencer is 5-1, their only loss is to an undefeated top 5 ranked 3A team. I am sure Rockcastle is a really good team, but I just don't know how you can make definitive statements about teams you haven't seen.

[pjdoug]

John Hardin is 3-3 against a schedule of BG, PRP along with all of Class 6A District 2 and they aren't ranked in this??

John Hardin should always be top 10. They never play a weak schedule.

[Tommy2tone]

Max preps ranks right up there with the CJ'S LIT ratings....They suck.
I know everyone is trying to convince us how good those out of state teams are.

[pjdoug]

Max preps ranks right up there with the CJ'S LIT ratings....They suck.
I know everyone is trying to convince us how good those out of state teams are.

You got that right.

[Fly Like a Duck]

John Hardin should always be top 10. They never play a weak schedule.

Agreed. It's always loaded. Two years ago they started off 1-6, ended up in the State Semis, again....last year, they were 3-3 after this point also and finished in the region finals. They very well might not make it to either of those this year, which, heaven forbid that....they've only been to 9 straight region finals.

They have their district left and then get to go play #2 in 5A, Christian County. Too many people voting apparently are ones that just look at records & that alone.

[ROCKSOLID69]

All I can say is Spencer is 5-1, their only loss is to an undefeated top 5 ranked 3A team. I am sure Rockcastle is a really good team, but I just don't know how you can make definitive statements about teams you haven't seen.

I wouldn't really hang my hat on a bardstown lose. they have not played anyone good. If you look at the strength of teams Spencer and Rockcastle have played. the toughest is leaning towards Rock. Teams like Garrard, Somerset, and Pulaski Compared to Bullitt Central, Bullitt East, East Jessimine.

[Eagle84]

So when you are confronted with some real number to back up the ranking instead of accepting the facts or challenging the fact with other facts you just have your “opinion” and that it?
Let’s look at a few other facts not that it is going to make any difference with someone as ignorant as you all are pjdouig & Tommy2tone.
AP Poll for September 19, 2016
JC 1st with 196 Points
FS 2nd with 176 points
David Cantrell’s Ranking State and Class
JC State Ranking by Central 13 with an 82.0
JC Class Ranking 1
FS State Ranking tied for 27th with an 74.7
FS Class Ranking 5th
Like I said it does not mean much but, facts are facts no matter what you think about them pjdouig & Tommy2tone.
Second, which means less than the above factors is when I reviewed last year’s losses of FS and almost common opponents with JC.
JC beat Lexington Catholic 42-28
LC beat Elizabethtown 35-14 Elizabethtown beat Caldwell County 32-27 and Caldwell County beat 48-19
Allen County- Scottsville beat FS 21-20 Allen County got beat by Bardstown 26-15, Bardstown got beat by Lexington Catholic 55-13

I said before ranking mean little to nothing and the team left standing at the end is the #1 Team. However if you look at the schedule and facts, at this time it is clear that JC should be the # 1 rank team.

[WCFB]

Wayne should be #2..
IMO
1) Johnson Central
2) Wayne
3) Franklin Simpson
4) South Warren

[Tommy2tone]

So when you are confronted with some real number to back up the ranking instead of accepting the facts or challenging the fact with other facts you just have your “opinion” and that it?
Let’s look at a few other facts not that it is going to make any difference with someone as ignorant as you all are pjdouig & Tommy2tone.
AP Poll for September 19, 2016
JC 1st with 196 Points
FS 2nd with 176 points
David Cantrell’s Ranking State and Class
JC State Ranking by Central 13 with an 82.0
JC Class Ranking 1
FS State Ranking tied for 27th with an 74.7
FS Class Ranking 5th
Like I said it does not mean much but, facts are facts no matter what you think about them pjdouig & Tommy2tone.
Second, which means less than the above factors is when I reviewed last year’s losses of FS and almost common opponents with JC.
JC beat Lexington Catholic 42-28
LC beat Elizabethtown 35-14 Elizabethtown beat Caldwell County 32-27 and Caldwell County beat 48-19
Allen County- Scottsville beat FS 21-20 Allen County got beat by Bardstown 26-15, Bardstown got beat by Lexington Catholic 55-13

I said before ranking mean little to nothing and the team left standing at the end is the #1 Team. However if you look at the schedule and facts, at this time it is clear that JC should be the # 1 rank team.

Wow, ignorant????? WTH...just stated IMO that I don't and will never like those rankings. never said anything to you about them. The JC win over a very bad Lex. Cath team at home is not more impressive than FS win over Greenwood and lately S. Warren.
I admit I have not researched out of state football to again say how good that team was.
My facts all year is that Franklin Simpson was my preseason #2 and they have done no wrong for me to take them down and have done everything right.

I give my opinion just like everyone else on this site and have for many years.
You want to get personal and call someone ignorant is going just a little bit overboard.

[Eagle84]

Max preps ranks right up there with the CJ'S LIT ratings....They suck.
I know everyone is trying to convince us how good those out of state teams are.

The national rankings are especially comical.

Wow, ignorant????? WTH...just stated IMO that I don't and will never like those rankings. never said anything to you about them. The JC win over a very bad Lex. Cath team at home is not more impressive than FS win over Greenwood and lately S. Warren.
I admit I have not researched out of state football to again say how good that team was.
My facts all year is that Franklin Simpson was my preseason #2 and they have done no wrong for me to take them down and have done everything right.

I give my opinion just like everyone else on this site and have for many years.
You want to get personal and call someone ignorant is going just a little bit overboard.

Ignorant that was more for pjdoug Sorry. But you opinion is not much of a fact.

[Tommy2tone]

It isn't a fact so that is why it is my opinion and stated what I thought.

[Eagle84]

In your post you call it a fact