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04-22-2014, 11:01 PM
How can an AD from a school also be a head varsity coach. Sign there own checks. Seems
Like a conflict of interest.
Like a conflict of interest.
04-23-2014, 12:58 AM
It should be a conflict of interest. Their particular sport would flourish and all athletic decisions would be made in the best interest of his particular sport . Hint Hint : Lawrence County. :Shaking:
04-23-2014, 08:45 AM
Mezzo Wrote:It should be a conflict of interest. Their particular sport would flourish and all athletic decisions would be made in the best interest of his particular sport . Hint Hint : Lawrence County. :Shaking:
jealous much? chuke williams was AD during the 90's, football was successful? you probably didn't mind that. plus baseball was good before feltner took over as AD. but go ahead and hate on your own people. sad you must be jealous of your own people because they are successful. just how is him being AD an unfair advantage? money? ha. baseball gets none. all of it is fundraising.
04-23-2014, 11:05 AM
lchsalumnus Wrote:jealous much? chuke williams was AD during the 90's, football was successful? you probably didn't mind that. plus baseball was good before feltner took over as AD. but go ahead and hate on your own people. sad you must be jealous of your own people because they are successful. just how is him being AD an unfair advantage? money? ha. baseball gets none. all of it is fundraising.
I do believe most every time there has been a change in districts it has been because he has believed it would benefit his baseball program. Otherwise it would have not been pushed through or would have been fought against. :eyeroll:
04-23-2014, 11:12 AM
Holcomb was the AD at Breathitt for many years that he was the head football coach and the other sports didn't suffer. Boys basketball was competitive nearly every year and the girls basketball team went to the state tournament several times.
It can be done with good success if the right man is making the decisions.
It can be done with good success if the right man is making the decisions.
04-23-2014, 11:31 AM
Perry Central used to have the basketball coach be AD during the first semester and the football coach be AD in the second semester.
It worked fine.
And since when has an AD ever signed anyone's check but their own?
It worked fine.
And since when has an AD ever signed anyone's check but their own?
04-23-2014, 11:39 AM
Mezzo Wrote:I do believe most every time there has been a change in districts it has been because he has believed it would benefit his baseball program. Otherwise it would have not been pushed through or would have been fought against. :eyeroll:
oh please stop the nonsense. look at the switch from the 57th to the 60th. who does it benefit the most? the least? girls basketball and volleyball are tremendously affected. boys basketball is to. who is least affected? baseball. why? because belfry and pike central can be tough opponents for baseball year in year out. they aren't as tough as pville or central, but they aren't easy either. trust me, the basketball programs (boys and girls) benefits greatly from this move. it had nothing to do with JUST improving baseball.
04-24-2014, 03:39 AM
lchsalumnus Wrote:jealous much? chuke williams was AD during the 90's, football was successful? you probably didn't mind that. plus baseball was good before feltner took over as AD. but go ahead and hate on your own people. sad you must be jealous of your own people because they are successful. just how is him being AD an unfair advantage? money? ha. baseball gets none. all of it is fundraising.Baseball gets nothing!!! Lol. 7000 dollar pitching machine. Control over the weight room built by county money. 50,000 dollar lawn mower. Guess candy bar sales are up. Nobody supervises the spending. Missing season ticket passes. C'mon man.
04-24-2014, 05:21 AM
BBALL41 Wrote:Baseball gets nothing!!! Lol. 7000 dollar pitching machine. Control over the weight room built by county money. 50,000 dollar lawn mower. Guess candy bar sales are up. Nobody supervises the spending. Missing season ticket passes. C'mon man.
wow. so misinformed. instead of spreading rumors and innuendoes, how about finding the truth.
1. pitching machine: they bought USED. out of their own money. wasn't even 2,000
2. weight room: football, basketball, softball, and even ROTC are in there. they share it. equal times. their coaches pick the times they want and they rotate it.
3. lawn mower: used for football and baseball fields. bought several years ago. wasn't even close to 50,000. another USED product that coach salmons and feltner found for cheap.
why do you hate what is successful? trust me. i support all sports of my former high school. why must you hate on the ones you don't follow or understand what is going on? sad. :please:
04-24-2014, 08:11 AM
Altro Cat Wrote:Holcomb was the AD at Breathitt for many years that he was the head football coach and the other sports didn't suffer. Boys basketball was competitive nearly every year and the girls basketball team went to the state tournament several times.
It can be done with good success if the right man is making the decisions.
Key word, Right Man. Those are far and few in a situation where AD is HC, Most of the time he get's what he wants for his sport and everyone else get's what's left.
:yawn::yawn::yawn:
04-24-2014, 09:26 AM
This is pretty common with football schools in states that actually care about it (Georgia, Alabama, etc.). Not as much of a conflict of interest in Kentucky because the athletic programs aren't functioning on such a large scale.
04-24-2014, 03:05 PM
just how sure are you that pitching machine was 2000? You talk like your Feltner!
04-24-2014, 08:20 PM
BBALL41 Wrote:just how sure are you that pitching machine was 2000? You talk like your Feltner!
lets see. how would i know? i have family on the team. i talk to others in the booster club for baseball. and i don't go around speaking without KNOWING the truth like others on here. you all hate the baseball program so much and why? because they work hard? because they practice? because they desire to be the best they can? the baseball boys and coaches and parents all show up for basketball and football games. they support those programs too. why must lawrence county be divided?
04-24-2014, 08:49 PM
So if I told you i saw the PO for 7000 I would be lying correct?
04-24-2014, 08:51 PM
BBALL41 Wrote:So if I told you i saw the PO for 7000 I would be lying correct?
7000 wasn't the pitching machine. maybe the mower. but definitely not the machine. look them up online. a NEW one will cost that much. the one they got is 5-6 years old. you are mistaken i believe. trust me on this. and how are you in a position to see purchase orders? hmm....
04-24-2014, 08:54 PM
This was just recently signed. The mower has been around for a while. As soccer goes they couldn't use the mower.
04-24-2014, 09:00 PM
BBALL41 Wrote:This was just recently signed. The mower has been around for a while. As soccer goes they couldn't use the mower.
again, not calling you a liar. but you are misinformed is mistaken a bit. the machine is used. do your own investigating. no way they paid FULL PRICE for a machine that is 5-6 years old. i'm 99% confident the price was less than 2000.
this basketball situation has nothing to do with the baseball team or the AD. the coach left for other reasons. nothing to do with the school. don't believe me? ask him. try that out. he is a class act. he'll tell you the truth. he wasn't run out of town.
04-25-2014, 09:02 AM
lchsalumnus Wrote:again, not calling you a liar. but you are misinformed is mistaken a bit. the machine is used. do your own investigating. no way they paid FULL PRICE for a machine that is 5-6 years old. i'm 99% confident the price was less than 2000.I do know why. He is a class act like you said!!! He's not stupid enough to say something that is negative about administration or people here. Considering he has to finish out the year teaching, and sale house. He handles things like they should be, not with political BS like LC has always done. Obviously you're tied to baseball and blinded by what goes on in the big picture at the school.. Not just baseball, but within there own family ring and political ring.
this basketball situation has nothing to do with the baseball team or the AD. the coach left for other reasons. nothing to do with the school. don't believe me? ask him. try that out. he is a class act. he'll tell you the truth. he wasn't run out of town.
04-25-2014, 09:35 AM
lchsalumnus Wrote:again, not calling you a liar. but you are misinformed is mistaken a bit. the machine is used. do your own investigating. no way they paid FULL PRICE for a machine that is 5-6 years old. i'm 99% confident the price was less than 2000.
this basketball situation has nothing to do with the baseball team or the AD. the coach left for other reasons. nothing to do with the school. don't believe me? ask him. try that out. he is a class act. he'll tell you the truth. he wasn't run out of town.
Yes this basketball situation is tied to the AD and the administration. It is their job to try and make a counter offer when the coach goes to them and tell them that he has several other schools making him offers can they guarantee him that he will have a teaching position this fall and they tell him they cannot guarantee him a position or they do nothing to try and persuade him to stay. Wouldn't you think that they, having a good coach such as cook, could have guaranteed a position and possibly a raise? No not this school. Now they have to start from scratch and try and find another coach that probably isn't half as qualified as cook and give him more money. This system does thing. "bass ackwards". On another note Cook is too smart to start bashing or bad mouthing the school system when they could possibly be references in the future. He is trying to leave on a good note which is a smart move regardless how they treated him. That's a class act. :Thumbs:
04-25-2014, 10:16 AM
Mezzo Wrote:Yes this basketball situation is tied to the AD and the administration. It is their job to try and make a counter offer when the coach goes to them and tell them that he has several other schools making him offers can they guarantee him that he will have a teaching position this fall and they tell him they cannot guarantee him a position or they do nothing to try and persuade him to stay. Wouldn't you think that they, having a good coach such as cook, could have guaranteed a position and possibly a raise? No not this school. Now they have to start from scratch and try and find another coach that probably isn't half as qualified as cook and give him more money. This system does thing. "bass ackwards". On another note Cook is too smart to start bashing or bad mouthing the school system when they could possibly be references in the future. He is trying to leave on a good note which is a smart move regardless how they treated him. That's a class act. :Thumbs:
are you serious? a raise for doing what? have you seen how much the bball coach makes at lawrence? compare that to other places. you will be shocked. not putting him or the program down, but what have they won to deserve more money? district championships? regional titles? i'm being serious. i thought you achieve something and get rewarded for it.
he would have had a job in the county next year. there is no doubt of that. if you think they wouldn't have brought him back you are sadly mistaken again. his current position may not have been available, but he would have had a job if he wanted to stay.
04-25-2014, 05:23 PM
zaga_fan Wrote:Perry Central used to have the basketball coach be AD during the first semester and the football coach be AD in the second semester.
It worked fine.
And since when has an AD ever signed anyone's check but their own?
Great idea.
04-25-2014, 09:44 PM
lchsalumnus Wrote:are you serious? a raise for doing what? have you seen how much the bball coach makes at lawrence? compare that to other places. you will be shocked. not putting him or the program down, but what have they won to deserve more money? district championships? regional titles? i'm being serious. i thought you achieve something and get rewarded for it.Frankie Smith 74,000 he doesn't make that. 2 20 win seasons Semis in region with young team!! Thats something to me.. after what 0-28 season!! Outside of this area they pay there coaches.. They take care of there coaches. What did the girls coach make at LC? Helps to be in tight with the AD !! lol.. Family circles..
he would have had a job in the county next year. there is no doubt of that. if you think they wouldn't have brought him back you are sadly mistaken again. his current position may not have been available, but he would have had a job if he wanted to stay.
04-26-2014, 08:03 AM
BBALL41 Wrote:Frankie Smith 74,000 he doesn't make that. 2 20 win seasons Semis in region with young team!! Thats something to me.. after what 0-28 season!! Outside of this area they pay there coaches.. They take care of there coaches. What did the girls coach make at LC? Helps to be in tight with the AD !! lol.. Family circles..
salary for girls coach was the same for harless when he was coach. sorry that public schools aren't able to pay their coaches 100,000 a year. as for frankie smith he has WON a state title and coached COLLEGE. i think that qualifies for an increase in pay don't you? cook is young and hasn't won yet. since you think winning is important, why doesn't baseball coaches get paid more? have you seen their pay? pathetic. and they have made state tourney and played for a state title. :rockon:
keep slamming the ad and blaming everyone else for what cook alone decided to do. you won't ever be convinced that lawrence county isn't the mecca of basketball in kentucky. i bet you are shocked that coach cal hasn't applied to coach here at lawrence. :biglmao:
04-27-2014, 08:00 PM
You're an idiot. That is all. Lol
04-27-2014, 09:02 PM
lchsalumnus Wrote:salary for girls coach was the same for harless when he was coach. sorry that public schools aren't able to pay their coaches 100,000 a year. as for frankie smith he has WON a state title and coached COLLEGE. i think that qualifies for an increase in pay don't you? cook is young and hasn't won yet. since you think winning is important, why doesn't baseball coaches get paid more? have you seen their pay? pathetic. and they have made state tourney and played for a state title. :rockon:
keep slamming the ad and blaming everyone else for what cook alone decided to do. you won't ever be convinced that lawrence county isn't the mecca of basketball in kentucky. i bet you are shocked that coach cal hasn't applied to coach here at lawrence. :biglmao:
Coach Cal isn't coming? Oh no you've got to be kidding?:Sad04::Sad04:
04-28-2014, 10:49 AM
I do not see an issue with the AD also being one of your coaches especially if that is there full time day job. In most schools the principal and superintendent are going to make the hires for the coaches they want anyways. AD is more less the paper pusher and day to day operations person.
04-29-2014, 10:39 AM
Coach at Wayne does a good job with it I think.
05-14-2014, 08:12 AM
Just to set the record straight about the pitching machine. It was for softball. Booster club had to put the money through the school. The athletic fund never paid a dime. Get your stories straight before you bash people. Grow up and stop hating.
05-14-2014, 01:30 PM
You guys are under the impression that a high school AD has the same power as a college AD. HS AD's rarely deal with anything other than scheduling and parent complaints. As far as stipends go, there is a limit, and whatever teh stipend is for the boys has to be reciprocated with the girls coach (Title IX). Anybody making $74,000 is a recipient of some creative accounting as it pertains to their teaching position.
05-14-2014, 04:28 PM
Hazard has an AD and head coach right now also
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