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Possible Reclassification Possibilities
#1
Heres a look at the schools on the border of different classes....

Class 1A Biggest

Bracken County 189.5
Nicholas County 194.5
Beechwood 196.5
Mayfield 199.0
Allen Central 199.0

Class 2A Smallest

Bishop Brossart 200.5
Clinton County 208.0
Ballard Memorial 210.0
Owensboro Catholic 210.0
Crittenden County 211.5

Class 2A Biggest

Bath County 309.0
Russell 315.0
Caldwell County 324.5
Union County 330.0
Shelby Valley 330.5

Class 3A Smallest

Heath 331.0
West Carter 332.0
Jackson County 332.0
Trigg County 332.5
Webster County 334.0

Class 3A Biggest

Paducah Tilghman 407.5
South Warren 413.0
Bourbon County 414.0
East Carter 415.0
McCreary Central 417.5

Class 4A Smallest

Highlands 419.5
Lexington Catholic 427.5
Taylor County 428.0
Russell County 432.0
Holmes 438.0

Class 4A Largest

Hopkins County Central 507.0
Madisonville-North Hopkins 509.5
Clay County 512.5
Mercer County 521.5
Fairdale 524.0

Class 5A Smallest

Shelby County 525.0
Perry County Central 525.5
Hopkinsville 529.5
Warren Central 530.0
West Jessamine 533.0

Class 5A Largest

Iroquois 671.0
North Laurel 681.0
North Hardin 682.0
Graves County 694.5
Apollo 695.5

Class 6A Smallest

Fern Creek 705.5
Dixie Heights 709.5
Southern 712.5
Muhlenberg County 730.5
Oldham County 735.5

Note: Bath County plays up from 2A to 3A, Cooper plays up from 4A to 5A, Letcher Central plays up from 4A to 5A, all for geography purposes.
Those are the only 3 schools that play out of class. Nobody plays down.

If you team is not on the list above, it's highly doubtful you will be moved in the 2015 realignment. This doesn't count schools that could be or already have consolidated. You can find the full list here...
http://khsaa.org/football/realignment/20...isting.pdf



Discuss!
#2
It amazes me to see Bracken and Nicholas Co's numbers. They are consistently have 2x ghe numbers, atleast, as Fairview, Paintsville, and Raceland, yet each year they cant seem to field more than 20-30 Players. While the other schools in their district field 50-70 players.
#3
From 1A-2A, the only possible move I see just looking at the numbers would be for Allen Central/Mayfield to move to 2A while Bishop Brossart drops to 1A. The gap above that is pretty substantial.

From 2A to 3A, I could possibly see Union County or Shelby Valley moving to 3A while Heath or West Carter/Jackson County could move down to 2A.

From 3A to 4A, the only real move i can see would be Mccreary to 4A while Highlands would drop to 3A.

From 4A to 5A, the only move i could see is Fairdale moving up and Shelby County moving down.

I dont see any 6A schools dropping off enough for a 5A school to move up.

Of course, I didnt consider geography in my statement nor consolidations.
#4
Scotty_Bronson Wrote:It amazes me to see Bracken and Nicholas Co's numbers. They are consistently have 2x ghe numbers, atleast, as Fairview, Paintsville, and Raceland, yet each year they cant seem to field more than 20-30 Players. While the other schools in their district field 50-70 players.

That seems to be a problem in 1A. Wburg is the 7th smallest football playing school in the state and just played a Mayfield team that could easily be 2A.
#5
When it comes to this year state championship games...

1A
Wburg 7/32 in 1A
Mayfield 31/32 in 1A

2A
NewCath 6/41 in 2A
Desales 28/41 in 2A

3A
Belfry 9/40 in 3A
Wayne County 18/40 in 3A

4A
Highlands 1/38 in 4A
Collins 16/38 in 4A

5A
Bowling Green 9/40 in 5A
Pulaski County 21/40 in 5A

6A
Meade County 11/32 in 6A
Scott County 30/32 in 6A

These may not be right on the money but there close.
#6
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:From 1A-2A, the only possible move I see just looking at the numbers would be for Allen Central/Mayfield to move to 2A while Bishop Brossart drops to 1A. The gap above that is pretty substantial.

From 2A to 3A, I could possibly see Union County or Shelby Valley moving to 3A while Heath or West Carter/Jackson County could move down to 2A.

From 3A to 4A, the only real move i can see would be Mccreary to 4A while Highlands would drop to 3A.

From 4A to 5A, the only move i could see is Fairdale moving up and Shelby County moving down.

I dont see any 6A schools dropping off enough for a 5A school to move up.

Of course, I didnt consider geography in my statement nor consolidations.

Heath no longer exists as a high school. It was part of the McCracken Co consolidation.
#7
gut, if this info is from the 2011 realignment wouldn't a lot have changed with the coal losses and other factors?
#8
Belfry0304 Wrote:gut, if this info is from the 2011 realignment wouldn't a lot have changed with the coal losses and other factors?

Its very possible, but you wont find that information until they redo it to my knowledge.
#9
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Its very possible, but you wont find that information until they redo it to my knowledge.

Wayne County recently consolidated with Monticello and should be moving up. The loss of Heath/Lone Oak (and I think there was a third) should change the numbers, and South Warren was a new school at realignment and is slated for 5A I'm fairly sure.
#10
If SWarren has enough students to now go into 5A, you'd have to think it affected some of the other schools like BGreen, WCentral, Greenwood, WEast. Which of these schools got hit the hardest with the addition of SWarren? Will, say, Greenwood, drop to 4a or WEast to 3a?
#11
To be more accurate you need to check the KHSAA site. Go to stats/news and under that they have enrollment reports. But by the time 2013-14 is figured it will change those numbers. I believe that the KHSAA uses the average boy enrollment for the most two recent years.
#12
While we may not see the teams playing in a realigned league until 2015 the KHSAA will need to get started on figuring out who is going where. I figure they will have it mostly complete by the time the 2014 playing season wraps up.
#13
McCracken was the consolidation of Heath, Lone Oak and Reidland.
#14
Interesting Possibility if Cov Cath indeed moves to 5a that gives NKY SIX 5a schools, Scott, Grant Co., Cooper, Conner, So Oldham & Cov Cath

So would one of these drop down or would they allow Highlands and one other to play 5a to make 2 NKY 5a districts. And allow two smaller 5a teams to drop down to 4a.
#15
If you want to estimate you can look at the KDE SAARS reports for the schools adding 2012-2013 7th-10th grades. It's not exact but I bet it's close. My team (Wayne) looks to be firmly in 4a.
#16
Cov Cath currently has @ 570 boys enrolled. I don't know how old the stats are from the original post but clearly they are not 100% correct. Cov Cath will definitely move up to 5A with those numbers. Unless the rules change, they aren't going to allow teams to volunteer to play up so Highlands would stay in 4A unless their numbers increase as well.
I can pretty much guarantee that CCH and Highlands would continue to play one another regardless of whether or not they are in the same class or district. Too much history not to mention playing the best helps you prepare for the post season.
#17
Dixie Heights is another "possible" possibility moving from 6A to 5A. I'll get some official numbers on this years enrollment this week and get back to you all.
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#18
I'm pretty sure that Corbin will be 4A in the next alignment. The 7th and 8th grades at Corbin total about 475 kids, which is much larger than the classes they will be replacing in the last alignment numbers.
#19
Allen Central's 2 yr boy avg. for 11-2,12-13 is 242.5 placing them solid in the middle of 2A...
#20
I can't get over the headline in this one.
It's straight from the Department of Redundancy Department
#21
^
Redundancy is my specialty
#22
It's the 2011-2012 2012-2013 numbers.
Already determined.. Realignment is already done and will come out in January. Then teams will be able to petition.

Morgan (317.5)
magoffin (315)
knott (314)
east ridge (317)

All could be in 2A next season and Bell could be back in East..

You could potentially have the same set-up as 1A in 2A in Eastern ky.. District, Rgion and State Semi wise..
#23
I don't know why I bother, but here goes. NEXT season is not when teams will move. Schedules are already set. 2015 playing season will be when people are in new places.
#24
I think Gut said it was the 2015 season in the original post.
Now is a good time to be evaluating the possibilities.
#25
Right.. 2015.. But the realignment comes out this winter to allow time for petitions to change classes, districts, whatever. This also allows time to get 2 yr. contracts signed for 2015-2016...
#26
If Allen Central move up, Betsy Layne would move down. It's based on geography too. They were to close last time.
#27
I would say it's a pretty safe bet to say Shelby County will drop down to 4A. They were the smallest school in 5A and their attendance has dropped and Collins' has risen as the numbers even out after the split.
#28
HDE Wrote:I think Gut said it was the 2015 season in the original post.
Now is a good time to be evaluating the possibilities.

No sir!

I was showing this to see how much it would change from the last realignment until the next one.

No where did i say this was the 2015 numbers. We arent even in 2014 yet.

Its possible that there is a possibility the you may be impossible.
#29
I was trying to point out that you said the realignment was 2015, not 2014. I was trying to back you up. I didn't say numbers either. I said season.
#30
HDE Wrote:I was trying to point out that you said the realignment was 2015, not 2014. I was trying to back you up. I didn't say numbers either. I said season.

Confusednicker:

My mistake, it must have been my redundancy talking...

I plan on doing a mock alignment as to what i think would be the perfect set up and get some ideals, but im going to wait until the numbers come out before I do it.

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