[Pick6]

Can you tell us where they are headed? Continuing the practices of one dimension offense and significant numbers of two way players does not seem like a formula for success.

Does the the new OC survive? Does Warner survive? Do they hire a dedicated QB position coach? Is there concern that kids in the youth program could become vulnerable to some of the schools in lower classes with easy paths to deep playoff runs? It happened to us after a single down season. Ryle has now had 2.5.

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I still believe Warner survives I don't see him being released. I understand a 7-5 3-8 & 2-9 record would dictate failure but I honestly don't think Turner (Principal) & Demlar (AD) will cut him.

Rememeber the 7-5 year they lost to Colerain & Highlands. They also were upset by Boone in the playoffs 14-7.

3-8 they lost to Colerain and Beat a stellar Columbus Desales team.

2-9 lost to Sycamore & Scott County (upset loss to Shelby County) (Only game I will soley blame on officiating EVER!)

I pray Warner has learned his lesson on scheduling. Don't play the tough teams when you know you are in a rebuild year. When the kids get down it's over. Just think if he would of taken a page out of his district rivals book and played Holy Cross, Beechwood, Scott, Holmes? Ryle would of been 9-3 , 5 - 6 , & 4 - 6. Take away the horrible officiating at SHelby County this season and your 5 - 6 to finish this year.

I think the only two for sites are Warner & Woolfe. The OC Harden had a monumental task to start the season as a first time offensive coordinator. You have 3 jr O linemen 1 Soph and 1 senior who was injured but still played.
You had 2 jr QBs. 1 which never should of been a QB and 1 that still needs a ton if work. And 1 Sr wide reciever and 1 jr and 1 Soph. With 1 jr tailback and 3 Soph behind him. They lost a ton of players do to injury.

I think Harden survives along with Grey. But I do think Warner starts immeadetly looking for a QB Coach and WR coach because that is how he will keep his job. Warner coached the recievers and I'm pretty sure over the last few practices I have seen they have hit the sled more than they have caught balls.

The defense was just too young to face the competition they went up against. Basically all sophomores defensive backs and it showed bad at the end of the season. Big plays were the death of this season.

THE RUMORS:
A band of parents have joined together to go against Warner I overheard this in the line for concessions last night. I had to chuckle as I have heard this since 2005 every year a group of parents goes against him but fail. I'm sorry but these are the questions of a high school coach not Wins & Losses-

Is the coach hurting the program?
Is the coaching and his actions causing kids to quit or not come out?
Is he teaching the lessons of life in addition to the game?
Is the fan base still supporting him?
Are the fans coming out?
What's the atmosphere like? Positive or negative?

If those are all negative answers that's when Warner will go.

2ND RUMOR
This rumor is that a certain persons son has been going around school telling everyone that 5 coaches will be fired. Now no names have been mentioned but I assure you if this is true it comes from the only source that matters

3rd RUMOR
A certain high ranking official doesn't want there son playing for Warner, because and I quote "Warner is mean". (I'm sorry its football)

OVERALL
I think Demlar/Turner have warned Warner that they will not be able to keep him if next year is not a turn around. I believe they will give him 1 more year and if there is not 6 wins the Union Raider parents pressure will be to much and they will give the Warner regime the axe.
If I was Warner I would be taking Gavin Brant/Colin England and starting Monday work it out to send them to every QB camp within 200 miles.

2013 Review
The main problem of 2013 was youth and inexperience but the second problem was 5 players taking snaps at QB. You can't run an offense without a QB. That's a pretty big hump for even Dale Mueller to get over.

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I'd like to also say Thank God the season is over.
Worst season in Ryle History as they went 2-9 and is the first year they have only won 2 games. Ryle has had only two 3 win seasons & only one 4 win season.

Otherwise they have finished with atleast 5 wins. Ryle's overall record since 1995.

126 - 95 regular season
57% winning record
56 - 53 vs district opponents
14 - 18 in the playoffs

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I'm interested to see all of the other Ryle parents opinions that have recently joined BGR

[Raiderforlife]

I don't believe Warner will survive and it goes beyond wins and losses. The reality is that no one on the staff has a clue how to create and maintain an offense. The experiment this year has been a massive failure. The bigger issue is that no good offensive minds want to come to Ryle because of the perceived issues with the coaching staff. I have spoken to several successful Offensive Coordinators who have made it clear that they would not go to Ryle because they feel that they would not be able to work with the Head Coach.
The fact is that several college coaches have privately stated that the system used at Ryle does not help student athletes prepare to be successful playing football in college thus they don't recruit offensive players from Ryle. One College coach even said that the best thing to happen to the Morgan's was that they left the program (regardless of the reason they left). This type of sentiment does not bode well for Warner.
I have noticed that some are willing to give Warner a pass because of the number of injuries on his team. I have a different take. Football has changed dramatically over the last twenty years. You no longer need to beat kids to death during practice (Monday-Thursday). I think that many of the injuries were due to physically tired bodies as the result of over use during the weak. Ryle routinely has unorganized practices that last 3+ hours and are full contact. That concept is just out of date! One only needs to look at the changes over the last ten years to college and NFL practice routines.
In addition the Ryle raiders have an ancient ineffective off season program. Much of this is related to the outdated dilapidated facilities and the refusal of the kids to attend the off season program. That is not necessarily the fault of the coaches however, the fact that the community refuses to donate money to improve the facilities because of the current coaching staff, is a coaching issue. Part of the job of the head coach is to build relationships with the community. That clearly has not been done effectively.
It is true that the Head Coach does not play a single snap in the game; however, he ultimately is responsible for the product on the field (Good and Bad). The kids did not appear to give up they just looked ill prepared to play the game of football at a competitive level. That ultimately is the responsibility of the Head Coach and thus I believe the reason that the Administration, Parents, and the community have a right to ask for a change.

[Pick6]

"OVERALL
I think Demlar/Turner have warned Warner that they will not be able to keep him if next year is not a turn around. I believe they will give him 1 more year and if there is not 6 wins the Union Raider parents pressure will be to much and they will give the Warner regime the axe.
If I was Warner I would be taking Gavin Brant/Colin England and starting Monday work it out to send them to every QB camp within 200 miles. - See more at: http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/sho...ost1687800"

And therin lies the problem. You should not have to send a player to a QB camp to learn the position. That expertise needs to be present on staff. QB's take years to develop, and they are not always sucessfull immediately. If the AD sticks with Warner, who will be under pressure to win, will not be able to give with a developing QB time.

[Spirit100]

"OVERALL
I think Demlar/Turner have warned Warner that they will not be able to keep him if next year is not a turn around. I believe they will give him 1 more year and if there is not 6 wins the Union Raider parents pressure will be to much and they will give the Warner regime the axe.
If I was Warner I would be taking Gavin Brant/Colin England and starting Monday work it out to send them to every QB camp within 200 miles. - See more at: http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/sho...ost1687800"

And therin lies the problem. You should not have to send a player to a QB camp to learn the position. That expertise needs to be present on staff. QB's take years to develop, and they are not always sucessfull immediately. If the AD sticks with Warner, who will be under pressure to win, will not be able to give with a developing QB time.

WWhhhhhhhaaaaaaaattttttttttt......Pick, I would venture to say less than 2% of the nations hs football teams have a QB coach. As much as I'd like to tell you they do. Many Div 2-3 universities don't have a QB coach.

Yes, goto a QB camp, grow and develop, collaborate with your HC/OC with what you have learned. Ideally the HS coaching staff has buy in with what the QB needs to learn, and helps in the camp process ( in the offseason ), as well as, their own ( in season ).

Suppose the staffs who have experts and QB coaches are pretty successful. Do Highlands and Trinity have QB coaches?

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And therin lies the problem. You should not have to send a player to a QB camp to learn the position. That expertise needs to be present on staff. QB's take years to develop, and they are not always sucessfull immediately. If the AD sticks with Warner, who will be under pressure to win, will not be able to give with a developing QB time.[/QUOTE]

Yupp pretty much says it all like I said before that's the problem and will be the option for whatever coach comes in for next season. Because there is not a developed QB on the roster. They will have to force development that takes years.
(Unless a Nathan Davis type situation arises but that was a failure too)

The real key question is who will be able to have a more immediate success next season or the season after. Would it be Warner who knows the players already or would it be a complete restart from scratch. New offensive scheme new defensive scheme. New plays.

I keep asking that question because it takes years to build a program and there are up and down years within. I do agree that maybe he needs a better offensive scheme he needs to be less involved and let the OC do his job.

Ryle has had some talented minds walk thru the door and only stay one season because of Warner's tendency to overrule there judgement. There history of O line coaches says it all. Assistants are there and work with individual players every day not just10 plays in 30 min of team time that he watches that player.

Another example would be 2010 waiting till the week before Trinity to try and install a passing offense that the former OCs had been telling him to do all year. I thought he had learned then but I was devastatingly wrong.

I really am neutral on whether he should stay or go because Warner is a good football coach (maybe not OC) but he knows the game. If you lose him I'd think that whoever came in would not keep members of the current reign. In that you lose Mike Woolfe who was and still is one of the better defensive coaches in NKY. Russel Harden as well is a good coach and I hate to see his first year as OC go as bad as it did but I solely believe if they wouldn't of Switched QBs 25 times he could of helped that offense. We will never know at this point because I am sure he will be made into a scape goat if something indeed happens on the staff.

IMO Demler will not fire Warner that will come to Turner as he decides if he wants his son to play for him or not. That's just my view on the situation injuries aren't an excuse and I agree you have a depth chart for a reason. But there will be a problem when your team starts more sophomores than seniors.

[Pick6]

Simon Kenton does have a dedicated QB coach. But he is also the offensive coordinator. Also, I would add Ryle certainly seems to have the resources to attract a qualified coach but it just seems that Warner will not go to far from what he knows, which is Owen Hauck offense.

[Raiderforlife]

"The real key question is who will be able to have a more immediate success next season or the season after. Would it be Warner who knows the players already or would it be a complete restart from scratch. New offensive scheme new defensive scheme. New plays."

I actually have no dog in this fight. I think Warner has some exceptional qualities, but I have also seen him make irrational decisions over the years. The question you ask is very complex. On the one hand Warner does have some working knowledge of the players and I am somewhat concerned that the defense will leave if Warner leaves. In an ideal situation they keep the defense in tact as much as is possible (adding Harden) keep Ryan as the O line coach and hire an OC, Receivers Coach, and frankly a New Head Coach.

On the other hand I think the amount of change that is needed exceeds Warner's ability to change. It might be easier for the Program and Community to just start fresh with a new Head Coach. That's what everyone has to think about when considering making this change.

[plantmanky]

Kevin Siple

[Daddycat27]

I heard that Hilton
was coming back and moving north to take Ryle to the promised land! Lol

[Mission1]

"The real key question is who will be able to have a more immediate success next season or the season after. Would it be Warner who knows the players already or would it be a complete restart from scratch. New offensive scheme new defensive scheme. New plays."

I actually have no dog in this fight. I think Warner has some exceptional qualities, but I have also seen him make irrational decisions over the years. The question you ask is very complex. On the one hand Warner does have some working knowledge of the players and I am somewhat concerned that the defense will leave if Warner leaves. In an ideal situation they keep the defense in tact as much as is possible (adding Harden) keep Ryan as the O line coach and hire an OC, Receivers Coach, and frankly a New Head Coach.

On the other hand I think the amount of change that is needed exceeds Warner's ability to change. It might be easier for the Program and Community to just start fresh with a new Head Coach. That's what everyone has to think about when considering making this change.

I don't believe Warner can change and hire on OC who knows how to develop, adjust, and call a game. That would mean he loses control, and we all know that will not happen. Ryle's QB situation for next year is not as bleak as some state, an OC needs to plan on the talant that is there, and not just focus on certain kids getting the ball.

If Turner decides to go in different direction, his choice, community I believe wants it, but it needs to be done quickly and new hire needs to be decided within a month after making the decision.

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If anything I think they would hand the reigns to Mike Woolf... But like I keep saying I seriously doubt anything will happen.

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Kevin Siple

The way Grant County Mafia has bashed him a couple times this season maybe he'd come to Ryle as atleast the OC. Union Mafia tends to look to Grant County for players & coaches:eyeroll:

[Pick6]

I think Ryle needs to go outside its system for a new head coach, much the way Boone did. Whether or not "Daddy Ball" is reality or perception, either is lethal to health of the program and a new HC from within the system would signal business as usual.

That being said, I believe Warner deserves tremendous credit for getting a turf stadium built and for the youth program

To the poster who implied that Ryle's talent level is down, I don't know how you can say that when the freshman program has lost what, maybe 2 or three games the last three years? Granted, varsity success cannot be inferred from success at developmental levels, for an individual class, but winning as consistently at the freshman level for as Ryle has I believe is an indicator of talent.

[TNT-MB1]

I think Ryle needs to go outside its system for a new head coach, much the way Boone did. Whether or not "Daddy Ball" is reality or perception, either is lethal to health of the program and a new HC from within the system would signal business as usual.

That being said, I believe Warner deserves tremendous credit for getting a turf stadium built and for the youth program

To the poster who implied that Ryle's talent level is down, I don't know how you can say that when the freshman program has lost what, maybe 2 or three games the last three years? Granted, varsity success cannot be inferred from success at developmental levels, for an individual class, but winning as consistently at the freshman level for as Ryle has I believe is an indicator of talent.

I agree and I do believe they will offer the job to Woolfe if anything would happen but if also think he would turn it down. He has already turned down Cooper, Cov Cath, and multiple other jobs in NKY. And the chance anything will happen is pretty slim. I have seen it since 2005 and nothing has ever happened. Union Raider parents need to accept the fact and support whoever remains. Don't learn the lesson the hard way and make your kid suffer.

Talent level is there except one noticeable hole (QB) of the players on the roster who have played QB whether freshman or pee wee.
Gavin Brandt- best true QB on the roster. Doesn't know the calls or plays.
Ryan Ryletski- great leader. Accuracy isn't there, too many bad decisions with the ball.
Colin England- not terrible but much better suited at WR/RB. Probably 2nd best QB but not a QB.
Pogliano- I don't think he will take a snap at varisty QB. He's a decent WR though.
O'Hara- freshman still needs a lot of development before he can play varisty.
Vince Jarvis- yes he played 2 series at QB and threw 1 pass. My vote goes to him the next Lorenzen!!:Cheerlead

No matter who the coach maybe-
Next year it will have to be Brandt or England so they either need to work with them as much as they can or go into the school and find one of the kids that doesn't play becuase of the staff and see what they have available.
Must add of the off season - QB coach no matter who any of the other coaches are they have to find a QB coach. There is not one on the staff as much as they like to think there is.

[Raiderforlife]

I agree that Ryle should go outside the system. The only problem will be finding quality assistant coaches as the school will not make room for them as teachers. They will be paid a very small sum of money for what is a great deal of work. I would also ad that many of the "Daddy Coaches" are volunteers and work in non coaching capacities. They do not get involved in any of the x's and O"s. The few that do are significantly tougher on their kids than any of the other kids on the team. Two kids would/will start because they are talented. The other kids do not start and may never start irregardless of who the Coaches are. The fathers in question are just trying to help the team any way possible. Some work on the chain gangs on Friday nights, some hook up the headphones and technical equipment, some make copies of wrist bands- all things that someone has to do.

I don't however believe that Warner deserves credit for the Union Raiders or the turf. Warner was a passive participant in creating the Union Raiders as it was started by "Daddy Coaches" that are no longer on the sidelines. The turf was paid for by a Soccer supporter. Ryle football has very limited access to that field during the week. Warner does deserve credit for taking a sick pathetic program and making it relevant. He certainly brings a level of toughness to Ryle that is much needed.

Finding a new Head Coach would be a challenging undertaking. I am sure that if the job were posted several local HC would apply as long as their respective school was not made aware of their interest. Regardless of who the head Coach is I believe that Woolf and Hardin are safe no matter what as assistant coaches typically work at the school as teachers. I think it's a great idea for the HC to work for the school as well. I believe that most of them(HC) in the area do In fact work at their school.

Warner/New Coach has a great deal of work to do to turn this program around. A new infrastructure will need to be created and implemented. That structure will dictate the future success of this program.

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Other talent-
O-Line
They will have one of the best O-Lines next season big and very talented-
Expected size & weight entering next season matter off season of building-
LT- sr- Teepen 6'4.5" 250 (2yr varsity)
LG- Sr- Hall 6' 270 (2yr varisty)
C- sr- Ross 6'3" 290 (3year varsity)
RG- Jr- Hiles 5'11" 220 (2 year)
RT- Soph- C.Ross 6'2" 260 (1st)
TE- sr - Brownell 6'3" 240 (3 year)

WR-
Arnwine -sr- 6'4" 220 - Offseason of training he could be a star. Height & speed are there. Hands need a little work
Beadle- jr- 6' 180 - Easily the most aggressive WR I have ever seen. Big play feel to him
Pogliano- 5'10 150- could fit in as a Ryan Hill type Slot

ATH- England- 6'3" 200- the talent is there for him to be a star D-1 recruit great speed and hands.

RB- Woolf- Sr- 6'0" 230- I think they will diminish his offensive role and focus him more on the defensive side.
RB- McGregor- Jr- 5'10" 180- flashes of brilliance this season. Tons of potential.
Rb- Batman- JR - 5'10" 170- fast back I would expect him in a spell back role.
FB- Jarvis- Jr- 5'8" 200- fire plug with the ball and will get you the tough 3 yard runs all day long.

QB- ? 6'4" Brandt has a nice arm and decent enough speed. But can his head game improve enough to trust him as QB. Rytlewski is 1 concusion from being done playing football do you risk working with him and investing him as QB #1.

Defense-
New kid Sam - sr- DT- 6'3 240 - for his size he has great hands and foot speed he came along very nicely to end the season
Woolfe- sr- LB - has potential to be a top LB in nKY
Belk- sr- LB- they moved him to OLB at the end of the season. I really liked the fit because he has decent speed to cover TEs and most slot recievers.
Meiman- Jr- LB- 6' 220- I expect a big season to put his name on the map for 2015.
Mason Locke- 5'9" 145- sr- CB- played big at the end of season I think he will be very impressive next year.
Brownell- DE- Tall strong fast could easily play Safety if needed.
Brandt- S- this could be a wild card but he has good defensive instincts.

Other positions I think are all open competition at this point.

[Mission1]

I agree and I do believe they will offer the job to Woolfe if anything would happen but if also think he would turn it down. He has already turned down Cooper, Cov Cath, and multiple other jobs in NKY. And the chance anything will happen is pretty slim. I have seen it since 2005 and nothing has ever happened. Union Raider parents need to accept the fact and support whoever remains. Don't learn the lesson the hard way and make your kid suffer.

Talent level is there except one noticeable hole (QB) of the players on the roster who have played QB whether freshman or pee wee.
Gavin Brandt- best true QB on the roster. Doesn't know the calls or plays.
Ryan Ryletski- great leader. Accuracy isn't there, too many bad decisions with the ball.
Colin England- not terrible but much better suited at WR/RB. Probably 2nd best QB but not a QB.
Pogliano- I don't think he will take a snap at varisty QB. He's a decent WR though.
O'Hara- freshman still needs a lot of development before he can play varisty.
Vince Jarvis- yes he played 2 series at QB and threw 1 pass. My vote goes to him the next Lorenzen!!:Cheerlead

No matter who the coach maybe-
Next year it will have to be Brandt or England so they either need to work with them as much as they can or go into the school and find one of the kids that doesn't play becuase of the staff and see what they have available.
Must add of the off season - QB coach no matter who any of the other coaches are they have to find a QB coach. There is not one on the staff as much as they like to think there is.

Gavin Brandt- best true QB on the roster. Doesn't know the calls or plays.
Ryan Ryletski- great leader. Accuracy isn't there, too many bad decisions with the ball.
Colin England- not terrible but much better suited at WR/RB. Probably 2nd best QB but not a QB.

Brandt/Ryletski - I believe accuracy problems are with both of them, but a lot has to do with the situation, "looking over their shouder" if a mistake is made. As for season, Rytletski was about 43%, Brandt 38% accuracy, but both did have a lot of drops and bad ruotes, due to not practicing so much during the week.
England - needs to stay at WR/TE or worse case RB.

Either case a QB coach is required, and an OC that can run a system around QB strengths

[Pick6]

When I look at Ryle as a school and Union as a community, I see tremendous resemblance to Ft. Thomas and Highlands. Ryle athletes enjoy more support and resources than the other schools in their district. The stadium and field is there. The youth program is there. Ryle should be able to attract a top tier coach. The first name on the list should be Chuck Smith. The second name (which I don't recall) should be the former St. X. coach.

[Mission1]

When I look at Ryle as a school and Union as a community, I see tremendous resemblance to Ft. Thomas and Highlands. Ryle athletes enjoy more support and resources than the other schools in their district. The stadium and field is there. The youth program is there. Ryle should be able to attract a top tier coach. The first name on the list should be Chuck Smith. The second name (which I don't recall) should be the former St. X. coach.

Is Smith a teacher?

[30 going on 40]

When I look at Ryle as a school and Union as a community, I see tremendous resemblance to Ft. Thomas and Highlands. Ryle athletes enjoy more support and resources than the other schools in their district. The stadium and field is there. The youth program is there. Ryle should be able to attract a top tier coach. The first name on the list should be Chuck Smith. The second name (which I don't recall) should be the former St. X. coach.

The communities are COMPLETELY different. Maybe it has to do w/ the perception that Warner is a horrible coach, but you don't get parents on websites complaining about Mueller. People make fun of the blue kool-aid crap, but it's the truth. The community supports the program. You may have the infrastructure correct. However, the tradition and positive community support are a HUGE difference.

[Pick6]

If HHS went 2-9, people would not have to get on a bb to complain about Mueller, because he would already be GONE!

[Raiderforlife]

The communities are the same it's just that Mueller has a better standing in the community because he has earned it through the results of his program. Winning solves a great number of problems.

[nky]

Communties are similar in demographics but the tradition on the football field between the two is as wide as the Grand Canyon. You have kids playing for Highlands who's grandfathers not just sibblings or fathers won State Championships. The football tradition at Ryle just isn't there so it's hard to compare the two in terms of football.

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Ryle is a very strong program in its shorty history and will continue to build. The record will continue you to build as they get back to winning ways.

The soon to be former St X. (OH) coach is rumored to have taken an assistant coaching job for Urban Meyer @ Ohio State. Reportedly there D. Coordinator will be looking for a job locally if this is true but I don't see them going for a coach like that.

If Ryle does go for a new coach I am sure the Boosters & the admin will be pushing for a modern offensive style coach. Like said above I would expect Woolfe to Remain D. Coordinator and Harden will remain no question.

There has been alot of rumors swirling but I think they will quickly die out. I still do not see a Warner firing scenario being brought up especially because Siple is the name rumors are throwing around and I doubt he will move to a 3rd program in 3 years.

I do not know much on Chuck Smith... Does anyone have his coaching history...

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Gavin Brandt- best true QB on the roster. Doesn't know the calls or plays.
Ryan Ryletski- great leader. Accuracy isn't there, too many bad decisions with the ball.
Colin England- not terrible but much better suited at WR/RB. Probably 2nd best QB but not a QB.

Brandt/Ryletski - I believe accuracy problems are with both of them, but a lot has to do with the situation, "looking over their shouder" if a mistake is made. As for season, Rytletski was about 43%, Brandt 38% accuracy, but both did have a lot of drops and bad ruotes, due to not practicing so much during the week.
England - needs to stay at WR/TE or worse case RB.

Either case a QB coach is required, and an OC that can run a system around QB strengths

Agreed and I would go with Brandt on the fact the he can throw more accurately mid range and deep range than Ryan. The SK game that Brandt was benched he had 5 incompletes all 5 were in the recievers hands and dropped. That could also go to Warner making recievers hit the sled more than catch passes. Break out the damn ball machine come on.
You also have to factor that Brant had 6 fumbles (all snap exchanges) While Ryan had 3 (don't quote me but also snap exchanges) with 6 ints. Ryan is a good kid and a decent QB but Brandt has better decision making and more potential at the QB position. Like I said he severely lacks the playbooks knowledge.

Also Agreed 100% not enough reps with a #1 QB. If I'm a QB coach I'm working all week on QB (whichever one) to Arnwine he's one of the biggest targets in NKy and a nightmare for a 5'9" CB. And then deep to Colin.
They just didn't do that and it was so noticeable as the year went on.

It's all woulda coulda shoulda now though so hopefully they get at least a QB coach in there and start immeadetly. I will not sit in those stands and support another losing season.

[Raiderforlife]

Agreed and I would go with Brandt on the fact the he can throw more accurately mid range and deep range than Ryan. The SK game that Brandt was benched he had 5 incompletes all 5 were in the recievers hands and dropped. That could also go to Warner making recievers hit the sled more than catch passes. Break out the damn ball machine come on.
You also have to factor that Brant had 6 fumbles (all snap exchanges) While Ryan had 3 (don't quote me but also snap exchanges) with 6 ints. Ryan is a good kid and a decent QB but Brandt has better decision making and more potential at the QB position. Like I said he severely lacks the playbooks knowledge.

Also Agreed 100% not enough reps with a #1 QB. If I'm a QB coach I'm working all week on QB (whichever one) to Arnwine he's one of the biggest targets in NKy and a nightmare for a 5'9" CB. And then deep to Colin.
They just didn't do that and it was so noticeable as the year went on.

It's all woulda coulda shoulda now though so hopefully they get at least a QB coach in there and start immeadetly. I will not sit in those stands and support another losing season.

I am not sure who the best QB is but I know that England is not one. It's also clear that we have some talent moving up that could fight for some of these positions. It seems to me that whatever the decision is it needs to be sooner rather than later. Who ever is the HC , they will need to get the plan in place and moving.

It seems to me that it is difficult to determine who can do what after what we witnessed last season. We have no place to go but up!

[Can you dig it?]

If HHS went 2-9, people would not have to get on a bb to complain about Mueller, because he would already be GONE!

If Highlands went 2-9 I'm pretty sure that everyone would realize that the talent wasn't there. Dale has a pretty decent track record, even with iffy talent.