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02-13-2005, 12:08 AM
Secret Service Comments
[Dave Kulow] We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the
secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of
Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who
flew the presidents' plane --- [yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe
flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ol boy"
womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives.
Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.]
The information below is accurate. Former Pres. Bush Sr. and the current
president Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the aircrews
who fly them around [When the president flies, there are several planes
that also go -- one carries the armored limo, another the security
detail, plus usually a press aircraft] and both Bush's made it a point
to stay home on holidays, so these Air Force and security people could
have a day with their families.
(WHAT WAS, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN, AND WHAT IS)
WHAT WAS:
Hillary Clinton was arrogant and vocally abusive to her security detail.
She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with
them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean
spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless,
but never in her mother's presence. Chelsea really was a nice,
kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus opinion was that
Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.
Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were
charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their
job, as professionals should, but they all "loathed" her and wanted to
be on a different detail. She was hard work because she was so nasty and
mean toward her detail.. Hillary Clinton was uniformly despised by the
Secret Service as a whole.
Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife
Hillary. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attack
antics that Hillary would use against her husband, the then President.
They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which
she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret
Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors
Hillary Clinton would scream and yell so loudly that everyone could hear
what she was saying.
Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most people wondered why he
tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife. It was
crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other
and was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was (and
is) genuinely a "marriage of convenience."
Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the
Lewinsky scandal which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have
"charisma," and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his
security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of
superiority towards them. His security detail uniformly believed him to
be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in
some way would enhance his image and political career. They did respect
him, unlike his wife, but they did not particularly like him and nobody
trusted him. He was polite, but not kind.
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN:
Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were more friendly
toward each other than either of them were towards former President
Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were
very close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice and
pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election she
had her "pegged" and no longer liked her or associated with her except
for events that were politically obligatory.
Al Gore was far more left wing and very hateful, not! just politically
opposed, to Republicans than Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and
thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred
was bitter and this was long before he announced for the Presidency.
This bitter hatred was something that he and Hillary had very much in
common.
They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail.
Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined,
neither of them even liked Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did have some good
qualities where Al Gore and Hillary had none in the view of their
security details.
Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security
detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold
them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they
had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them in disgust as they
finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion when
Al Gore got angry at his offspring and loudly, in their presence,
pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be
like them?!?"
Word of this insulting and demeaning verbiage by the former
Vice-president quickly spread and he became as despised and disliked by
the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed that Al Gore would
not be elected President and they really did have private small
celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was
not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate
Al Gore's defeat. He was much disliked. Al Gore was not a good and kind
person. That he could have been our President may suggest that God was
"answering prayers" and looking out for the country with Al Gore's
defeat.
WHAT IS:
Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's
detail. Without exception, they uniformly concede that she is perhaps
the most nice kind, and genuinely good person they have ever had the
privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her
picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even
have to be asked, she offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she
will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her
appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine
nature. Laura Bush really is this kind of a person and her security
detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They actually love
her as a human being.
They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like
comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."
Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a
man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he
always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the
Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he
has a Bar-B-Que for his security detail and he helps in serving them
their meals. He eats with them, sits with them, and talks with them. He
always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers,
and he of course, knows each of them by their first name, and calls them
by their first name as a show of affection.
They believe that he actually loves his security detail and that he is
deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like,
love, or respect anyone more than President Bush, and most of them did
not know they would feel this way until they had an opportunity to work
for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has
never changed in the time that he has been President. He always treats
them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.
Please pass this on. It is important for everyday Americans to have a
true inside understanding of their President.
The trials of life are sent to make us, NOT to break us.
[Dave Kulow] We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the
secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of
Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who
flew the presidents' plane --- [yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe
flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ol boy"
womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives.
Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.]
The information below is accurate. Former Pres. Bush Sr. and the current
president Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the aircrews
who fly them around [When the president flies, there are several planes
that also go -- one carries the armored limo, another the security
detail, plus usually a press aircraft] and both Bush's made it a point
to stay home on holidays, so these Air Force and security people could
have a day with their families.
(WHAT WAS, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN, AND WHAT IS)
WHAT WAS:
Hillary Clinton was arrogant and vocally abusive to her security detail.
She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with
them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean
spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless,
but never in her mother's presence. Chelsea really was a nice,
kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus opinion was that
Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.
Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were
charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their
job, as professionals should, but they all "loathed" her and wanted to
be on a different detail. She was hard work because she was so nasty and
mean toward her detail.. Hillary Clinton was uniformly despised by the
Secret Service as a whole.
Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife
Hillary. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attack
antics that Hillary would use against her husband, the then President.
They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which
she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret
Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors
Hillary Clinton would scream and yell so loudly that everyone could hear
what she was saying.
Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most people wondered why he
tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife. It was
crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other
and was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was (and
is) genuinely a "marriage of convenience."
Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the
Lewinsky scandal which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have
"charisma," and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his
security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of
superiority towards them. His security detail uniformly believed him to
be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in
some way would enhance his image and political career. They did respect
him, unlike his wife, but they did not particularly like him and nobody
trusted him. He was polite, but not kind.
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN:
Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were more friendly
toward each other than either of them were towards former President
Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were
very close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice and
pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election she
had her "pegged" and no longer liked her or associated with her except
for events that were politically obligatory.
Al Gore was far more left wing and very hateful, not! just politically
opposed, to Republicans than Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and
thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred
was bitter and this was long before he announced for the Presidency.
This bitter hatred was something that he and Hillary had very much in
common.
They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail.
Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined,
neither of them even liked Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did have some good
qualities where Al Gore and Hillary had none in the view of their
security details.
Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security
detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold
them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they
had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them in disgust as they
finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion when
Al Gore got angry at his offspring and loudly, in their presence,
pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be
like them?!?"
Word of this insulting and demeaning verbiage by the former
Vice-president quickly spread and he became as despised and disliked by
the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed that Al Gore would
not be elected President and they really did have private small
celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was
not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate
Al Gore's defeat. He was much disliked. Al Gore was not a good and kind
person. That he could have been our President may suggest that God was
"answering prayers" and looking out for the country with Al Gore's
defeat.
WHAT IS:
Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's
detail. Without exception, they uniformly concede that she is perhaps
the most nice kind, and genuinely good person they have ever had the
privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her
picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even
have to be asked, she offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she
will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her
appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine
nature. Laura Bush really is this kind of a person and her security
detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They actually love
her as a human being.
They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like
comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."
Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a
man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he
always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the
Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he
has a Bar-B-Que for his security detail and he helps in serving them
their meals. He eats with them, sits with them, and talks with them. He
always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers,
and he of course, knows each of them by their first name, and calls them
by their first name as a show of affection.
They believe that he actually loves his security detail and that he is
deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like,
love, or respect anyone more than President Bush, and most of them did
not know they would feel this way until they had an opportunity to work
for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has
never changed in the time that he has been President. He always treats
them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.
Please pass this on. It is important for everyday Americans to have a
true inside understanding of their President.
The trials of life are sent to make us, NOT to break us.
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02-13-2005, 02:48 AM
George Bush is a great religious man, i like his beliefs.. just not a great president as far as the economy, desicions on the war, etc., IMO
02-15-2005, 12:11 AM
Ya know, if I was goin to have a job where I was required to take a bullet for someone, then that person better be nice to me or when the shots start, im goin to jump back, there is no way I would risk my life for someone who thinks they are better than me.
02-20-2005, 03:27 AM
I have a cousin who is married to a member of the SService.
He is .......................different
He is .......................different
02-20-2005, 02:45 PM
Are you saing SS people are different?
I have a cousin who is in the secret service....was in the world trace centers the day they were hit....has worked a lot at international functions in NYC and recenty was asigned to the Kerry campagain....seems like an awesome job....
I have a cousin who is in the secret service....was in the world trace centers the day they were hit....has worked a lot at international functions in NYC and recenty was asigned to the Kerry campagain....seems like an awesome job....
02-21-2005, 02:13 PM
SS would be a rather awesome job
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