[NYY10]

Why is it Rockcastle can run the score up to 74 on Bourbon Co-6 and not get bashed on here but when Shelby Valley does it all hell break's lose, Can someone tell me why because I really would like to no

[Mr.Baseball2]

Yea

[belfry forever]

Why is it Rockcastle can run the score up to 74 on Bourbon Co-6 and not get bashed on here but when Shelby Valley does it all hell break's lose, Can someone tell me why because I really would like to no

I can't answer for everyone else, but here is my opinion...I don't like to see ANY team run a score up like that. BUT...when it is what I consider a "local" team it seems kind of personal. Maybe I just expect that teams in our area would have more respect and class than that. Second...I just don't take a lot of interest in most schools outside the area.
It will be interesting to see other opinions...

[FOX SPORTS]

Difficult to comment on a game that wasn't seen first person.

[Tomcat68]

1. Because Shelby Valley isn't a top notch program
2. Rockcastle is a top 5 team in 3A so even their young guys tend to better than very bad teams like Bourbon County
3. Phelps is actually a good enough to win games and compete and Valley blew them away putting up 79. Phelps did win 4 games last season.
4. Bourbon County is very, very bad and is currently in the midst of a 25 game losing streak where every team in the past 3 seasons now has scored atleast 55 points against them with the exception of 5 occassions.
5. Phelps hasn't had 79 points on them since who knows when. I checked back as far as the 1998 season and the most points they had ever had hung on them was a 62-30 loss to Hazard in 1998. The biggest score differential I could find since 1998 was a 60-0 loss last season to Pikeville.

That's why Valley is getting hammered for "running up the score." Just the same as Prestonsburg was hammered last year for the same against Magoffin County.

[Old School]

If a team that has a huge lead keeps their starters in too long or goes for on fourth down should be blasted for trying to run up the score, but if that team plays their second and third string player in the second half what can you do you can't tell these kids not to play hard.

[Kayaker]

The three major differences that i see are:

1.) Rock had 4 defensive TD's and 6 INT's in the first half. If the kid picks the ball off you cant expect him to flop down on it when he has a chance to score.

2.) Rock's starters where out of the game before halftime. I now that SV doesnt have the roster #'s that Rock has but still yet Coach Larkey tried all he could to keep it reasonable.

3.) Rock was not throwing the ball in the 4th quarter as was Shelby Valley. People say play calling doesnt matter but to me it does.

The only thing that i have to say about the Rock is why they would schedule an opponent like Bourbon Co. Can anyone close to the Rock program inform us as to why they scheduled Bourbon cause obviously they had nothing to prove out of this game?

[TidesHoss32]

nice post, and very informative. I am a Jenkins alum and Ive seen Phelps at least once for the past 20 years due to them playing in our district. And you are absolutely correct. I can tell you many times after I graduated, that when Pikeville would beat Jenkins 74-6, you would THANK the Pikeville coaching staff for JUST beating you by 68 points, because that score could have been 120-6 or worse, which was exactly what Shelby Valley was trying to do. Valley is a 4-6 football program year in and year out, and when they had the chance to destroy a down team, they did. And I AM NOT putting this on the kids, because they run the plays their coaches send in, so the kids are not at fault, but when you put up 44 second half points when your already up 30 at halftime, I mean come on. I wasnt at the Rockcastle Co game and Im sure that they had a huge halftime lead, and coasted with the JV in the second half, not padding their stats. I live right past the Shelby Valley hell, and Im here to tell you, enjoy it while you can, because there's a few teams on your schedule that could year in and year out make you feel like Phelps did last friday night.

1. Because Shelby Valley isn't a top notch program
2. Rockcastle is a top 5 team in 3A so even their young guys tend to better than very bad teams like Bourbon County
3. Phelps is actually a good enough to win games and compete and Valley blew them away putting up 79. Phelps did win 4 games last season.
4. Bourbon County is very, very bad and is currently in the midst of a 25 game losing streak where every team in the past 3 seasons now has scored atleast 55 points against them with the exception of 5 occassions.
5. Phelps hasn't had 79 points on them since who knows when. I checked back as far as the 1998 season and the most points they had ever had hung on them was a 62-30 loss to Hazard in 1998. The biggest score differential I could find since 1998 was a 60-0 loss last season to Pikeville.

That's why Valley is getting hammered for "running up the score." Just the same as Prestonsburg was hammered last year for the same against Magoffin County.

[BelfryJustice]

I have to agree. It has a lot to do with two local teams. Shelby Valley was trying to run this score up in that ball game. They were passing the ball all over the field and went for 2 most of the time during the 4th quarter. It was very clear what they were trying to do. I think that no team should score in the 70’s. How is it that Belfry has been one of the best programs in the area and they never hit 70’s? I know that some team would put 70 on the board every week if they could. I feel as if it has something to do with having a little class and respect for the other team. Some coaches don’t have that respect fact. I do know that we have one in Haywood and that has a lot to do with the success he has had over his many years of coaching.

[wymtsports96]

Very nice post tomcat68. I think you pretty much covered the reason.

[Mr.Baseball2]

well.....Valley is not the only team to ever run up the score but when they do people go nuts on them!

[NYY10]

well.....Valley is not the only team to ever run up the score but when they do people go nuts on them!

Yea,thats what Im Trying to say!!!

[dblg11]

Why is it Rockcastle can run the score up to 74 on Bourbon Co-6 and not get bashed on here but when Shelby Valley does it all hell break's lose, Can someone tell me why because I really would like to no

This is because Rockcastle is actually a GOOD TEAM!! Shelby Valley is a bad team and always will be a bad team. They just found somebody that was worse and they ran the score up to try 2 make themselves look good. It didn't work!! Everyone still knows there bad!!

[t-cat50]

why did rockcastle even play them.

[TidesHoss32]

because Phillip Haywood is the epitome of class, thats why....always has been, always will be.

I have to agree. It has a lot to do with two local teams. Shelby Valley was trying to run this score up in that ball game. They were passing the ball all over the field and went for 2 most of the time during the 4th quarter. It was very clear what they were trying to do. I think that no team should score in the 70’s. How is it that Belfry has been one of the best programs in the area and they never hit 70’s? I know that some team would put 70 on the board every week if they could. I feel as if it has something to do with having a little class and respect for the other team. Some coaches don’t have that respect fact. I do know that we have one in Haywood and that has a lot to do with the success he has had over his many years of coaching.

[IntheZone]

[/QUOTE]This is because Rockcastle is actually a GOOD TEAM!! Shelby Valley is a bad team and always will be a bad team. They just found somebody that was worse and they ran the score up to try 2 make themselves look good. It didn't work!! Everyone still knows there bad!!



i agree

[pillsburythrowboy]

Why is it Rockcastle can run the score up to 74 on Bourbon Co-6 and not get bashed on here but when Shelby Valley does it all hell break's lose, Can someone tell me why because I really would like to no

Local team or not they still scored 74 points. Maybe Sv was a great team compared to phelps. Then I here some of these other reasons about why they didn't get critisised. There pathetic to. Phelps is capable of beating teams who'd they beat last year? Blaim it on Valleys play calling? It's a runnign clock dose it matter if u run or pass Valley tried running the ball. Look at the stats 1 td pass in the 4th quarter. Valley scored From the freshman qb to the freshman reciver. Let me say that one more time. Freshman to Freshman. Just cause there a local team every ones gotta rag on them. Im glad no one has any better time than to complain about Valley scoring 79. Ask coach Saunders what he thinks about the critisism. He dont care. All he cares about is football. Can some one please post the 4th quarter stats from the Valley and phelps game. I would really like to see them or a drive by drive summary. Wasn't it a running clock? So the clock runs no matter what.
Valley woulda subsituted there 2nd 3rd 4th 5th strings, IF THEY WOULDA HAD ONE. tHEY HAD TO CANCEL ALL THE JV AND FRESHMAN GAMES CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH KIDS TO PLAY ONE. THEY BARLEY HAVE ENOUGH KIDS TO PLAY AGINST EACH OTHER IN PRACTICE. Then I hear people in the Valley vs. Matewan game keep saying that Valley played well with a team that was ranked 8th!! in the state of Wv. There still ranked 8th though aint they. How manys teams are below them. I am a Valley alumni and I am very proud to have Coach Saunders as our Coach. One more thing I hear all these people say wait til Valley Plays Belfry what in the blue hell dose Valley having beat Phelps buy 73 have to do with Belfry. Our they phelps big brother and there gonna defend them? No you can't score that many points on them it hurts every ones feelings so were gonna do it to you. What is up with that lol. Every one may think Saunders is classless, Is that not classless putting down one team for scoring 70 some then encourgaging aniother team to do the same. Just because they win more games than the other team.

(some one go ahead and rip on my gramatical errors I know your goin to anyway. Its funny actually cause if some one replys to a post and they can't think of anythign back to the replyer you can always tell because thats the first thing they comment on.)

[phs1986]

First off, your grammatical errors have nothing to do with what I am gonna post. As for Belfry being Phelps' big brother--- NOPE... they aren't brothers in any sense of the word BUT... They also are NOT the same type or calibar of team! Phelps is a single A school with probably 350 kids TOTAL from 7th to 12th. They are small! Don't get me wrong, Phelps didn't play up to their ability and the loss they suffered was a BIG one! They know it... BELIVE me... I have watched them practice this week... they KNOW IT!! BUT... Phelps doesn't deserve to be dogged because of their size nor does Belfry because of their ability. Belfry is all about football! We all know that!! Coach Haywood is a class act and has the respect because he has earned it. Wanna know where part of Phelps' football team was on Friday? At Ashland cheering Belfry on. AFTER practice! Shelby Valley might be a small "in numbers" team but I just checked on here and according to the WV athletic association Matewan only has 25 kids listed on roster as well. Evidently SV played a great game against them but.... they came out on the short end of the stick. I hate it for the kids.... BUT... proving a point against Phelps last week did nothing... nothing at all but give the kids at Phelps more "want too".... I hate that everyone thinks that Phelps is a nothing area with no talent and kids who could care less... We have some great kids over here who play and some who don't. YOu can't force them to play. I wish SV the best of luck on the remainder of the season. I hope they find what their looking for in their coach and on the field!!

[FOX SPORTS]

IF THEY WOULDA HAD ONE. tHEY HAD TO CANCEL ALL THE JV AND FRESHMAN GAMES CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH KIDS TO PLAY ONE. THEY BARELEY HAVE ENOUGH KIDS TO PLAY AGINST EACH OTHER IN PRACTICE.

Why is it exactly that Valley doesn't have enough players for JV?

BTW, I think this thread is ridiculous and was only started to stir up trouble.

[phs1986]

OOPS!!! Meant to put you CAN'T force them to play!! (tried to edit but my 5 mins. were up!!!

[Sarrr]

It was.

Look, SV played their entire team against Phelps, all 20 of them. It's hard to sub out starters when you don't have enough players for a full 2nd team, much less the 4 or 5 we have at Belfry.

Let he who is without sin cast the next stone.

[FOX SPORTS]

This thread was started to cause trouble and bring up a lopsided game more than a week old now.

Why don't we try something new and start an intelligent thread on a real topic?

This one is history!

[phs1986]

Good Idea!!!