[Strikeout King]

Kentucky’s John Calipari has benefited from the one and done rule more than anyone, but he is ready to see it changed.



http://www.nationofblue.com/john-calipar...to-change/

[Fromthebleachers]

Cal has enough UK fans drinking his kool-aide. Surely you are not going to drink this. What a hypocrite. "Golly GEE...I hate that rule" Yea, right. Yet he chooses to exploit the rule. It's the only way he knows he can win. Real amusing. :lame:

[Mix1]

He won't come out and say he's with the one and done.. Being politically correct he is.. He's eating this one n done up and is the best at it.. I don't buy that one bit he's against it..

Mix1...

[Mix1]

You get a 2-3 year rule,, Cal won't get the 4-6 5*s every year.. This rule benefits the KUs,, UNCs,, Dukes and every other team that's not UK.. Cal sells UK on one and done rule.. Don't buy in that he seriously wants to do away with it..

Mix1...

[RunItUpTheGut]

God Bless Coach Cal.

[Steve Kuberski]

Smart move. Knows that if he doesn't win it the next couple of years he'll quit getting the best recruiting class every year and he'll have no seniors plus a weaker recruiting class and that will be recipe for ouster.

[honestjchsfan]

You get a 2-3 year rule,, Cal won't get the 4-6 5*s every year.. This rule benefits the KUs,, UNCs,, Dukes and every other team that's not UK.. Cal sells UK on one and done rule.. Don't buy in that he seriously wants to do away with it..

Mix1...

I don't follow your logic, if Cal can get six 5 star guys in one class, what makes you think he couldn't get 3 to 4 every year at UK? Not every 5 star guy is a one and done player, Wiltjer and AP were both 5 star players. IMO CAL is the best recruiter in college basketball and it will not matter if the one and done rule is in effect or not. Your statement makes little sense! You really think the six five stars guys coming in next don't know that UK returns two 5 star guy and another 7ft 4 star guy and that someone is not starting??? Tell me why the #1 ranked power forward and the #2 ranked power Forward decided to both come to UK when UK already has 2 other 5 star power forwards???

[Mix1]

They only come to UK because Cal gets em to the league faster than anyone else. Put a 2-3 year into effect,, and they won't look at UK as good. It levels the playing field for all the other teams. Don't see what's so hard to understand in that?

Mix1...

[Wildcatk23]

It would benefit Kentucky greatly to be able to keep players 2 years.

[outdoorsman43]

Cal has enough UK fans drinking his kool-aide. Surely you are not going to drink this. What a hypocrite. "Golly GEE...I hate that rule" Yea, right. Yet he chooses to exploit the rule. It's the only way he knows he can win. Real amusing. :lame:

Nah, he's just mastered it when other coaches can't. You play by the rules you are given. He is doing that and doing that far better than any coach in history.

Dumb/mindless/ignorant argument you make.

[outdoorsman43]

You get a 2-3 year rule,, Cal won't get the 4-6 5*s every year.. This rule benefits the KUs,, UNCs,, Dukes and every other team that's not UK.. Cal sells UK on one and done rule.. Don't buy in that he seriously wants to do away with it..

Mix1...

How did he recruit the Marcus Camby's, Dajaun Wagner's, etc. that he did at Memphis and UMass? The man can recruit. I don't think he'd have too tough of a time adapting. May not have the success he does now, but I wouldn't be too concerned.

What makes you think he isn't sincere? He's a smart guy. Why on earth would he blab about this if he feels the complete opposite way? He says "I'm the only coach saying anything about this" and he is. Maybe he actually does care about the kids??? Listen to his whole argument on the KSR podcast. The media is making a big deal about one or two sentences about how "we have to separate" from the NCAA. If people would listen to whole conversation it would make a world of difference.

Come on, Mix.

[Mix1]

I'm not saying he can't recruit.. He's the best at it.. Using the rules that are in place now.. But you put a 2-3 year rule in place and he won't get as many 5*s as he is now. Again,, the players are wanting to get to the league as fast as they can. And Cal has shown he can get them there faster than anyone.. Put a 2 year rule in effect,, and the players are gonna look at other schools more because you take the getting to the league in one year out of the equation.. He will still get his share of top players,, but not as many as with a 2-3 year rule.. Cal does care for his players,, he advises his players if their not a lotto pick to look at staying another year to improve their stock.. But he knows getting them a guaranteed contract is in their best interest.. And I don't listen to anything Matt Jones says.. Don't like the man.. If the major teams breaks away into their own conference,, the Moreheads,, WKUS and EKUs are screwed..

Mix1...

[outdoorsman43]

I'm not saying he can't recruit.. He's the best at it.. Using the rules that are in place now.. But you put a 2-3 year rule in place and he won't get as many 5*s as he is now. Again,, the players are wanting to get to the league as fast as they can. And Cal has shown he can get them there faster than anyone.. Put a 2 year rule in effect,, and the players are gonna look at other schools more because you take the getting to the league in one year out of the equation.. He will still get his share of top players,, but not as many as with a 2-3 year rule.. Cal does care for his players,, he advises his players if their not a lotto pick to look at staying another year to improve their stock.. But he knows getting them a guaranteed contract is in their best interest.. And I don't listen to anything Matt Jones says.. Don't like the man.. If the major teams breaks away into their own conference,, the Moreheads,, WKUS and EKUs are screwed..

Mix1...

Didn't say anything about Matt Jones. I'm telling you to listen to everything that was said.

[Aslan]

I'm not saying he can't recruit.. He's the best at it.. Using the rules that are in place now.. But you put a 2-3 year rule in place and he won't get as many 5*s as he is now. Again,, the players are wanting to get to the league as fast as they can. And Cal has shown he can get them there faster than anyone.. Put a 2 year rule in effect,, and the players are gonna look at other schools more because you take the getting to the league in one year out of the equation.. He will still get his share of top players,, but not as many as with a 2-3 year rule.. Cal does care for his players,, he advises his players if their not a lotto pick to look at staying another year to improve their stock.. But he knows getting them a guaranteed contract is in their best interest.. And I don't listen to anything Matt Jones says.. Don't like the man.. If the major teams breaks away into their own conference,, the Moreheads,, WKUS and EKUs are screwed..

Mix1...

If the rules change he won't have to get as many elite recruits. He can actually have the same team two straight years. Imagine had a two year rule been in place with our National Championship team. Definitely a repeat, no team could've been them last year. Instead of getting 4 or 5 elite recruits a year, he would only need to get 2 or 3 a year.

[CraftCreeker]

Of course hes not going to get as many because he wouldn't have too!

[Stardust]

How did he recruit the Marcus Camby's, Dajaun Wagner's, etc. that he did at Memphis and UMass? The man can recruit.

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[Fromthebleachers]

Got news for you....Cal doesn't get one and dones to the NBA..they would be there anyway if they could go. He can't coach a kid up..Its why he takes that route. With a little help from his well known buddy WWWES. That is kool-aide. After this years flop he got exposed which raises more suspicion as to why these kids gather to play for a coach with such a dubious record. Imagine what that coach at Duke would do with a cupboard full of one and dones every year. He is the master at getting a bunch of prima donnas to play together....justified by what he has done in the Olympics. Afterall...he has won four NCs. None vacated.

[Skip]

Cal has enough UK fans drinking his kool-aide. Surely you are not going to drink this. What a hypocrite. "Golly GEE...I hate that rule" Yea, right. Yet he chooses to exploit the rule. It's the only way he knows he can win. Real amusing. :lame:

First it was he couldn't win with "One and Done" players now it's the only way he CAN win? That's amusing!!

[Fromthebleachers]

I never said he couldn't win without one and dones. But where has he really done that. Percentage wise....he hasn't won a lot of NC's with his approach, And it's really not "college" basketball. Student/athletes...get real. It took him twenty years for him, WWWes and Nike to pull it off. Cal has won a lot of games and had a lot vacated too. He has some screwed up priorities. Five number one recruiting classes in a row. Sitting on one NC....not that impressive. But hey...win at any cost is the mantra.

[Mix1]

If the rules change he won't have to get as many elite recruits. He can actually have the same team two straight years. Imagine had a two year rule been in place with our National Championship team. Definitely a repeat, no team could've been them last year. Instead of getting 4 or 5 elite recruits a year, he would only need to get 2 or 3 a year.

Goes back to what I said,, it evens the playing field for the rest of college town. Instead of having only 2-3 top teams a year,, it goes to 10-15 top teams a year. Can't understand why some didn't get my meaning the first go around?

And Cal is a good, not great, X's n O's coach. Going back to Umass days and early years at Memphis. He's been able to rely more on talent the past 10 years.

As far as 5 straight #1 classes? A final 8, a final 4, a championship, NIT year, and this years #1 class hasn't made it to campus yet so that will be debated once season starts. But on paper it makes Michigans Fab 5 look like a regular Morehead recruiting class. You give me the results as the past 4 years, I'll take an NIT bid every now and then.

I answered 2-3 different posts here for note.

Mix1...

[TheRealVille]

I'm not saying he can't recruit.. He's the best at it.. Using the rules that are in place now.. But you put a 2-3 year rule in place and he won't get as many 5*s as he is now. Again,, the players are wanting to get to the league as fast as they can. And Cal has shown he can get them there faster than anyone.. Put a 2 year rule in effect,, and the players are gonna look at other schools more because you take the getting to the league in one year out of the equation.. He will still get his share of top players,, but not as many as with a 2-3 year rule.. Cal does care for his players,, he advises his players if their not a lotto pick to look at staying another year to improve their stock.. But he knows getting them a guaranteed contract is in their best interest.. And I don't listen to anything Matt Jones says.. Don't like the man.. If the major teams breaks away into their own conference,, the Moreheads,, WKUS and EKUs are screwed..

Mix1...

With a 2-3 year rule in effect for all teams, he would still get players there as fast as they can. With a one year rule, the field is level. With a 2-3 year rule, the field is still level. All teams have the same rules. The years that a player has to play, to me, doesn't look like it would make any difference. Cal would still get them ready as fast as he could. He is the best coach around to get players to the next level, no matter the years it takes to get each player there. Don't take this as me being an "all in" Cal fan, I'm not. But, he is good at what he does best, recruiting, and getting players to the NBA at the fastest possible rate. And, he fits the UK system as good as anybody alive, right now.

[Stardust]

If it goes with how I have wished since the made it a 1 & done requirement, I say that the NBA eliminates the exclusion of early entry (after High School) and College implements a 2 or 3 year requirement, what happens to UK recruiting then?

The five stars want to come to UK right now. If the NBA accepts High School players again, will UK (any college) still get get the players that are top five at their position any more? Now, that would make College basketball a level playing field!

The NBA absolutely does NOT support the exclusion of High School players from entering the draft.

The players union says entering the NBA straight out of high school should be an option — and Stern re-iterated this week he and and the league prefer that it's not.
Making sure draft eligible players are one year removed from their high school graduating class and at least 19 years old during the calendar year of the draft is a business decision by the NBA and has nothing to do with denying a player an opportunity to play in the league, Stern said Tuesday in Phoenix before a Suns game.
"We don't think it's appropriate for us to lecture kids whether they should or shouldn't go to school," Stern told reporters. "For our business purposes, the longer we can get to look at young men playing against first-rate competition, that's a good thing, because draft picks are a very valuable thing."http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/ba...53872590/1

[RunItUpTheGut]

IMHO an 18 year old KID is not mature enough to head to the NBA straight out of high school.
But then again, neither is a 19 year old.

[RunItUpTheGut]

I never said he couldn't win without one and dones. But where has he really done that. Percentage wise....he hasn't won a lot of NC's with his approach, And it's really not "college" basketball. Student/athletes...get real. It took him twenty years for him, WWWes and Nike to pull it off. Cal has won a lot of games and had a lot vacated too. He has some screwed up priorities. Five number one recruiting classes in a row. Sitting on one NC....not that impressive. But hey...win at any cost is the mantra.

:biglmao:

[Stardust]

IMHO an 18 year old KID is not mature enough to head to the NBA straight out of high school.
But then again, neither is a 19 year old.

I'd prefer to say, "not ALL 18 year olds are mature enough, but some are and have proven so". But this is the NBA, where there are many 25 year olds that are not mature enough.

18 year-olds are adults. No adult should be neglected the opportunity to ply his trade. Minus the NFL, the NBA is the only professional sport that holds such age restrictions. To me, it's about making commitments. If a player chooses to go to the NBA once he is of age, I completely support it. If a player is not well prepared to go to the NBA out of High School, then he should be required to maintain that $50,000 scholarship commitment (Education, Room, Board, Food and stipend) commitment that the school has made with the player, then the school should get three years out of the player.

We have way to many players that are going to college to play basketball for one reason and one reason only - They Have Too! If you now force players who have ZERO interest in going to college, then you will be deluged with players like Notre Dame's QB who will become academic casualties and will put schools in jeopardy due to players cheating the system, which will cause the school to come under sanction. Who will ultimately pay the price for those sanctions??? The Fans of those programs. No, eliminate the requirement of players to go to school and you will get a cleaner college game!

[outdoorsman43]

I never said he couldn't win without one and dones. But where has he really done that. Percentage wise....he hasn't won a lot of NC's with his approach, And it's really not "college" basketball. Student/athletes...get real. It took him twenty years for him, WWWes and Nike to pull it off. Cal has won a lot of games and had a lot vacated too. He has some screwed up priorities. Five number one recruiting classes in a row. Sitting on one NC....not that impressive. But hey...win at any cost is the mantra.

:HitWall:

[Ballers]

LOL.. this is kinda funny..
I mean if anyone really believes this they are dumb obviously..
I understand we'd love to have kept last years team..
But Coach Cal has connections in the NBA, he promises these kids NBA dreams..
That is why they come to UK, that and of course he jerks out that fat wallet.

[bluesky2005]

Not sure he gets these kids if the rule isn't the way it is.