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01-16-2012, 03:56 AM
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- A prison inmate who was one of four men to accuse a former Syracuse assistant basketball coach of sexually molesting him more than 40 years ago admits he made up the claim.
The accuser, Floyd VanHooser, says in a letter that he lied to police and in December interviews with the Associated Press and the Post-Standard newspaper of Syracuse. He says he wanted to get back at the coach, Bernie Fine, because he did not hire a lawyer to help VanHooser fight a criminal conviction.
Fine had helped raise the 56-year-old VanHooser, who is currently serving a prison sentence in New York on a burglary conviction.
Two other men, former Syracuse ball boys in the 1980s, accused Fine late last year of abusing them as children, but the statute of limitations has expired. Fine was fired Nov. 27 after they came forward, ending his 35-plus years as an assistant at Syracuse.
Fine, 66, has denied wrongdoing and has not been charged. Fine's attorney, Karl Sleight, declined to comment on Sunday. A federal investigation is ongoing.
Another man has also accused Fine, though a prosecutor has said that there is evidence that undercuts that claim.
VanHooser told the Associated Press last month that Fine began sexually abusing him when VanHooser was 14 years old. He said the abuse continued as an adult, when the contact included sex acts for money.
VanHooser said both his parents died by the time he was 13 and he moved in with Fine at 14. Though he began running away after six months, VanHooser said he saw Fine on and off for nearly 40 years.
VanHooser said Friday in a prison interview with the newspaper that it's true that he and Fine had a sexual relationship as adults for many years, and it continued until last summer. He said Fine first approached him for sex when he was in his 30s. VanHooser said he was usually high on heroin when they had sex.
On Thursday, the Post-Standard received copies of two letters dated Nov. 29 that VanHooser wrote and mailed to Fine. One letter is addressed to Fine and the other "to whom it may concern."
"In a statement I gave, I told a lot of lies about Bernie Fine. None of what I said was true," VanHooser wrote. "Bernie has been nothing but good to me over the years. He was the only thing I had close to a father. He never did anything wrong. He is a good man."
VanHooser confirmed Friday that he wrote the letters and did so without being asked. When asked if his statements to police were true, VanHooser said only parts were.
When Syracuse police detectives questioned him about Fine's relationship with him as a child, VanHooser said he did not offer specifics.
"They suggested things and I went along with it," VanHooser told the newspaper.
The moment the detectives walked out of the room, VanHooser said, he regretted saying Fine had abused him.
VanHooser said he was still angry with Fine about not helping him hire a lawyer so he repeated the false allegations to the AP and The Post-Standard. He said he wanted "revenge" but did not think "the story would go as far as it did."
Onondaga County District Attorney William Fitzpatrick said he was not surprised that VanHooser admitted he lied about Fine. Fitzpatrick said he had not seen VanHooser's letters and did not know that he had recanted.
Fitzpatrick had referred last month during a news conference to an unnamed fourth accuser in the Fine case as someone serving a life sentence in prison and a persistent felon. He said that person's claims were not credible.
"There simply is no victim No. 4," Fitzpatrick said at the time.
VanHooser is serving 16 years to life at Clinton state prison near the Canadian border for several burglaries of Syracuse-area homes. He was sentenced in October as a persistent felony burglar.
VanHooser has listed Fine's former Syracuse address as his own in the past, including on a tax lien from 1999. VanHooser did painting and other maintenance work on Fine's home, and he also worked for several years at a Syracuse University fraternity house where Fine was an adviser.
VanHooser said he never saw Fine abusing children.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...mits-lying
The accuser, Floyd VanHooser, says in a letter that he lied to police and in December interviews with the Associated Press and the Post-Standard newspaper of Syracuse. He says he wanted to get back at the coach, Bernie Fine, because he did not hire a lawyer to help VanHooser fight a criminal conviction.
Fine had helped raise the 56-year-old VanHooser, who is currently serving a prison sentence in New York on a burglary conviction.
Two other men, former Syracuse ball boys in the 1980s, accused Fine late last year of abusing them as children, but the statute of limitations has expired. Fine was fired Nov. 27 after they came forward, ending his 35-plus years as an assistant at Syracuse.
Fine, 66, has denied wrongdoing and has not been charged. Fine's attorney, Karl Sleight, declined to comment on Sunday. A federal investigation is ongoing.
Another man has also accused Fine, though a prosecutor has said that there is evidence that undercuts that claim.
VanHooser told the Associated Press last month that Fine began sexually abusing him when VanHooser was 14 years old. He said the abuse continued as an adult, when the contact included sex acts for money.
VanHooser said both his parents died by the time he was 13 and he moved in with Fine at 14. Though he began running away after six months, VanHooser said he saw Fine on and off for nearly 40 years.
VanHooser said Friday in a prison interview with the newspaper that it's true that he and Fine had a sexual relationship as adults for many years, and it continued until last summer. He said Fine first approached him for sex when he was in his 30s. VanHooser said he was usually high on heroin when they had sex.
On Thursday, the Post-Standard received copies of two letters dated Nov. 29 that VanHooser wrote and mailed to Fine. One letter is addressed to Fine and the other "to whom it may concern."
"In a statement I gave, I told a lot of lies about Bernie Fine. None of what I said was true," VanHooser wrote. "Bernie has been nothing but good to me over the years. He was the only thing I had close to a father. He never did anything wrong. He is a good man."
VanHooser confirmed Friday that he wrote the letters and did so without being asked. When asked if his statements to police were true, VanHooser said only parts were.
When Syracuse police detectives questioned him about Fine's relationship with him as a child, VanHooser said he did not offer specifics.
"They suggested things and I went along with it," VanHooser told the newspaper.
The moment the detectives walked out of the room, VanHooser said, he regretted saying Fine had abused him.
VanHooser said he was still angry with Fine about not helping him hire a lawyer so he repeated the false allegations to the AP and The Post-Standard. He said he wanted "revenge" but did not think "the story would go as far as it did."
Onondaga County District Attorney William Fitzpatrick said he was not surprised that VanHooser admitted he lied about Fine. Fitzpatrick said he had not seen VanHooser's letters and did not know that he had recanted.
Fitzpatrick had referred last month during a news conference to an unnamed fourth accuser in the Fine case as someone serving a life sentence in prison and a persistent felon. He said that person's claims were not credible.
"There simply is no victim No. 4," Fitzpatrick said at the time.
VanHooser is serving 16 years to life at Clinton state prison near the Canadian border for several burglaries of Syracuse-area homes. He was sentenced in October as a persistent felony burglar.
VanHooser has listed Fine's former Syracuse address as his own in the past, including on a tax lien from 1999. VanHooser did painting and other maintenance work on Fine's home, and he also worked for several years at a Syracuse University fraternity house where Fine was an adviser.
VanHooser said he never saw Fine abusing children.
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01-16-2012, 06:24 AM
Well, wonder how many packs of Cigs he got to shut up.
01-16-2012, 04:23 PM
^ How do you explain the audio of Laurie Fine?
01-16-2012, 04:51 PM
1 Accuser admitted that he lied.
1 Accuser has been proven to be a liar and child molester, himself.
1 Accuser previously stated on 3 separate occasions that he was not molested, but is changing his tune now.
1 Accuser has a somewhat credible story that is only corroborated by a vague phone conversation with Fine's wife, who had an affair with him as an adult.
1 Accuser has been proven to be a liar and child molester, himself.
1 Accuser previously stated on 3 separate occasions that he was not molested, but is changing his tune now.
1 Accuser has a somewhat credible story that is only corroborated by a vague phone conversation with Fine's wife, who had an affair with him as an adult.
01-17-2012, 02:57 AM
Overrated Wrote:It's like some of you want to believe that the sexual stuff went on, What kinda sick porn do some of you watch?
Beastiality, transys gone wild, bernie and the young guns part 2......oh wait thats you....
01-17-2012, 03:14 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-17-2012, 04:41 AM by Real Badman.)
Sure RIUTG? Need Vundy33 to come like your post an meet and w/e you two do? :Thumbs: in a good way........:biglmao:
01-17-2012, 03:45 AM
A false accusation is as bad as commiting a crime.
01-18-2012, 02:51 AM
Overrated Wrote:Sure RIUTG? Need Vundy33 to come like your post an meet and w/e you two do? :Thumbs: in a good way........:biglmao:
We all knew overrated was in so good with syracuse they let him sit on the bench.....whats funny is that it looks a lot like what they do at home....
Overrated and Coach Fine
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01-18-2012, 03:32 AM
Overrated Wrote:1 Accuser admitted that he lied.
1 Accuser has been proven to be a liar and child molester, himself.
1 Accuser previously stated on 3 separate occasions that he was not molested, but is changing his tune now.
1 Accuser has a somewhat credible story that is only corroborated by a vague phone conversation with Fine's wife, who had an affair with him as an adult.
How do you come up with that conversation being even close to vague???
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01-18-2012, 02:54 PM
Overrated Wrote:Oh yeah, greatness, coming from a mod who called a 14 or 15 year old kid a coward. :lame::lmao::please:hh::Shaking::truestory:
Just because this sick bastard is on your team your sticking up for him. If he was on UK or any other program you would have his head. I assure you myself if accusations came out and they had phone calls and other evidence to prove the accusations. He would be ran out of lexington in a matter of minutes. We don't play games with kids lives and your sick for defending this piece of shit.
01-18-2012, 02:57 PM
They should have you on trial, You seem to know everything about it, Did he touch you? If so report it to SU admin and New York police asap....:Thumbs:
Casey Anthony was also innocent. If you can't be proved, Your clean in my book. I respect our countries history.
Casey Anthony was also innocent. If you can't be proved, Your clean in my book. I respect our countries history.
01-18-2012, 03:03 PM
1 Accuser admitted that he lied.
1 Accuser has been proven to be a liar and child molester, himself.
1 Accuser previously stated on 3 separate occasions that he was not molested, but is changing his tune now.
1 Accuser has a somewhat credible story that is only corroborated by a vague phone conversation with Fine's wife, who had an affair with him as an adult.
Done with the discussion, I left my 4 cents.
1 Accuser has been proven to be a liar and child molester, himself.
1 Accuser previously stated on 3 separate occasions that he was not molested, but is changing his tune now.
1 Accuser has a somewhat credible story that is only corroborated by a vague phone conversation with Fine's wife, who had an affair with him as an adult.
Done with the discussion, I left my 4 cents.
01-18-2012, 06:37 PM
Overrated Wrote:They should have you on trial, You seem to know everything about it, Did he touch you? If so report it to SU admin and New York police asap....:Thumbs:
Casey Anthony was also innocent. If you can't be proved, Your clean in my book. I respect our countries history.
You really are an idiot. Lets hope nothing as SERIOUS as this never happens to you. Because hey if the guy isnt proven guilty then you'll just let it happen again. Your ignorance amazes me to a level that not even Sparty could put in his english vocabulary.
Our Countries history? Give me a break? Is basketball coaches molesting children part of our history?
01-18-2012, 07:54 PM
Whats up with the Mods being bad asses and calling names, PM me for that, We can take personal gesuters up in person. Thanks.. :truestory:
I don't agree with what you say, But i'm not calling you slap nuts, queer bate or incest douche am I? You don't gotta call me an idiot =]
I don't agree with what you say, But i'm not calling you slap nuts, queer bate or incest douche am I? You don't gotta call me an idiot =]
01-18-2012, 11:32 PM
Overrated Wrote:Oh yeah, greatness, coming from a mod who called a 14 or 15 year old kid a coward. :lame::lmao::please:
Yes, I only speak the truth.
And please, don't start crying about being called an idiot like Sparty. Come on man. Also, what does basketball coaches molesting kids have to do with our country's history?
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01-18-2012, 11:33 PM
Wildcatk23 Wrote:Just because this sick bastard is on your team your sticking up for him. If he was on UK or any other program you would have his head. I assure you myself if accusations came out and they had phone calls and other evidence to prove the accusations. He would be ran out of lexington in a matter of minutes. We don't play games with kids lives and your sick for defending this piece of shit.
Exactly. Don't have to defend the guy just because he's a former coach.
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01-18-2012, 11:48 PM
Overrated Wrote:Whats up with the Mods being bad asses and calling names, PM me for that, We can take personal gesuters up in person. Thanks.. :truestory:
I don't agree with what you say, But i'm not calling you slap nuts, queer bate or incest douche am I? You don't gotta call me an idiot =]
Grow up and debate like someone. You tell me I'm molested and I call u an idiot and u get butt sore lol.
01-19-2012, 01:19 AM
It's almost a guarantee that this Syracuse team will lose, the 2-3 zone that Boehiem has installed in this program will get dominated by a GOOD team, none of those 20 cupcakes that Syracuse plays.
Syracuse' schedule:lmao:
Syracuse' schedule:lmao:
01-19-2012, 01:29 AM
FanofThegame12 Wrote:It's almost a guarantee that this Syracuse team will lose, the 2-3 zone that Boehiem has installed in this program will get dominated by a GOOD team, none of those 20 cupcakes that Syracuse plays.
Syracuse' schedule:lmao:
#1 RPI
#3 SOS
:lmao::lmao::lmao:
Yea they will lose soon. Prob Saturday or Monday
01-19-2012, 01:45 AM
#1 RPI and #3 SOS is because of their conference opponents.
01-19-2012, 03:31 AM
Overrated Wrote:#1 RPI
#3 SOS
:lmao::lmao::lmao:
Yea they will lose soon. Prob Saturday or Monday
You did mention 7 post ago you were done with this thread....what happened?
01-19-2012, 01:27 PM
Overrated Wrote:#1 RPI
#3 SOS
:lmao::lmao::lmao:
Yea they will lose soon. Prob Saturday or Monday
LOL!
YOu guys have played i think 2 ranked teams all year.
Marquette And Florida.
Pretty soon UL, will not be ranked. That SOS and RPI is crap.
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