[lcgrad2002]

Thoughts, comments and predictions on this matchup to start the season for both teams in Louisa.

Lawrence with a new head coach but talent,and Ashland deep like always. What happens in this matchup?

[LClion4life]

Summer practice hasn't even started and you're already making game prediction threads?

[Strikeout King]

^ There's already a few prediction threads out


I don't know anything about Ashland, except they seem to be very good in just about very sport but I'm taking the Dawgs.

Game is at Lawrence County

[LClion4life]

Ashland is usually great to start out the year. Ashland wins by at least 2 TDs.

[PHSForever]

Summer practice hasn't even started and you're already making game prediction threads?

You're just upset it's a prediction thread about something other than LC baseball. :biggrin:

[hardknoxs]

Dawgs havent lost at the pound in two years, they got this one.

[Real Badman]

Tomcats!

[LWC]

Why not pick the Bulldogs, somebody's got to win!

[Proud Ram Fan 1168]

Dawgs havent lost at the pound in two years, they got this one.

Could it be they haven't played the caliber of team as the Tomcats will be bringing? The tomcats the past few years have been a very good team with some speed in the backfield. If I recall the dawgs slacked off on the scheduling to build their program back up. I hear people talking about it all the time on here during the football season. Maybe thats why when they go 10-0 and get to the playoffs they end up losing to the better teams. I don't want to take anything away from the past few seasons. I think it has been a great run. And has been great for the community. But now is the time to start beefing up the schedule with the better teams in eastern and central Ky. This Ashland game will be a good measuring stick of how far the dawgs have come. Hope LCHS has a nother great season and only loses one game this year!! :biggrin: :popcorn:

[Proud Ram Fan 1168]

Oh by the way. Why has this thread even been started? Schools teams and fans have no clue of what each team will be bring to the field. Silly!!

[14th Region Fan]

Ashland by 6

[LClion4life]

You're just upset it's a prediction thread about something other than LC baseball. :biggrin:

? The Lewis County baseball season has been over for quite a while so I'm not real sure why I'd be upset about that?

[cuppett777]

Ashland by 14 or more

[Proud Ram Fan 1168]

Ashland by 14 or more

This is some funny stuff. You don't even know what these teams are bringing to the field this year and your saying Tomcats by 14!! Now thats funny stuff there! Teams haven't even started practice!:lmao:

[PHSForever]

? The Lewis County baseball season has been over for quite a while so I'm not real sure why I'd be upset about that?

It was a joke, dude.

[cuppett777]

This is some funny stuff. You don't even know what these teams are bringing to the field this year and your saying Tomcats by 14!! Now thats funny stuff there! Teams haven't even started practice!:lmao:

i know there supposed to be better this year than last and they beat Belfry,i been wrong before, but i doubt it this time...

[Proud Ram Fan 1168]

i know there supposed to be better this year than last and they beat Belfry,i been wrong before, but i doubt it this time...

Ok so you think the Cats are going to be better this year. Could be. So have you went to Louisa to see or find out what type of team the Lawrence Co Bulldogs will bring. They have a new coach. So a new system will be brought in. Will the dawgs be a running team? Will the cats be a good run stop D. Or will the dawgs bring a passing team to the system this year? Can the cats stop the pass? Or does the dawgs bring in a ballance attack? Can the cats stop that kind of attack? Now reverse these questions. Now factor in experience, speed, size and coaching. Now when we all get that figured out. Place your vote. Last year was last year. You may beat a very good team like Belfry just because they play to your strengths. And you may lose to a lesser so called talented team just because you can't stop their one strength! And thats why we play the game! I remember a few years back when we beat the cats three years in a row. But the cats turned around and beat a team that beat us! It's all about match-ups. Not so much about the past, team history or where they are playing. It's all about match ups! But I do love the fan support you bring to the tomcats. You never know. The tomcats just might win by 50! But then again the cats may lose by 50!

[StrayBullet]

Ok so you think the Cats are going to be better this year. Could be. So have you went to Louisa to see or find out what type of team the Lawrence Co Bulldogs will bring. They have a new coach. So a new system will be brought in. Will the dawgs be a running team? Will the cats be a good run stop D. Or will the dawgs bring a passing team to the system this year? Can the cats stop the pass? Or does the dawgs bring in a ballance attack? Can the cats stop that kind of attack? Now reverse these questions. Now factor in experience, speed, size and coaching. Now when we all get that figured out. Place your vote. Last year was last year. You may beat a very good team like Belfry just because they play to your strengths. And you may lose to a lesser so called talented team just because you can't stop their one strength! And thats why we play the game! I remember a few years back when we beat the cats three years in a row. But the cats turned around and beat a team that beat us! It's all about match-ups. Not so much about the past, team history or where they are playing. It's all about match ups! But I do love the fan support you bring to the tomcats. You never know. The tomcats just might win by 50! But then again the cats may lose by 50!

:Clap::Thumbs:

[MVP2]

Tomcats of Ashland.

[cuppett777]

Ok so you think the Cats are going to be better this year. Could be. So have you went to Louisa to see or find out what type of team the Lawrence Co Bulldogs will bring. They have a new coach. So a new system will be brought in. Will the dawgs be a running team? Will the cats be a good run stop D. Or will the dawgs bring a passing team to the system this year? Can the cats stop the pass? Or does the dawgs bring in a ballance attack? Can the cats stop that kind of attack? Now reverse these questions. Now factor in experience, speed, size and coaching. Now when we all get that figured out. Place your vote. Last year was last year. You may beat a very good team like Belfry just because they play to your strengths. And you may lose to a lesser so called talented team just because you can't stop their one strength! And thats why we play the game! I remember a few years back when we beat the cats three years in a row. But the cats turned around and beat a team that beat us! It's all about match-ups. Not so much about the past, team history or where they are playing. It's all about match ups! But I do love the fan support you bring to the tomcats. You never know. The tomcats just might win by 50! But then again the cats may lose by 50!

well i am i Belfry fan so it dont matter,but experience,speed,size, and for sure coaching i say edge Ashland,i know each year is diffrent just stating MY opinion,just like u did urs,and yes that why they play the game..

[Proud Ram Fan 1168]

well i am i Belfry fan so it dont matter,but experience,speed,size, and for sure coaching i say edge Ashland,i know each year is diffrent just stating MY opinion,just like u did urs,and yes that why they play the game..

Sounds good cuppett. Glad you did your scoutting on each team before coming to this decision! Good luck this season except when and if your team plays the RAMS :Clap:

[PHSForever]

well i am i Belfry fan so it dont matter,but experience,speed,size, and for sure coaching i say edge Ashland,i know each year is diffrent just stating MY opinion,just like u did urs,and yes that why they play the game..

I agree..I think TomCats win this one. If everyone remembers, in 2006, they were a 3A team, and then in 2007 were bumped to 5A, and their record reflected the big jump up. Leon Hart (whom I know and believe is a FANTASTIC coach, IMHO) has since had to face Dixie Heights, Cov Cath, Johnson Central, etc usually in the first round. I think this is a program that is really on the rise in 5A, so it will be interesting to see if they can continue the steady upward rise in schedule results since the bump to 5A. Not taking anything away from Lawrence County, but I just believe this one goes to the TomCats.

[Proud Ram Fan 1168]

I agree..I think TomCats win this one. If everyone remembers, in 2006, they were a 3A team, and then in 2007 were bumped to 5A, and their record reflected the big jump up. Leon Hart (whom I know and believe is a FANTASTIC coach, IMHO) has since had to face Dixie Heights, Cov Cath, Johnson Central, etc usually in the first round. I think this is a program that is really on the rise in 5A, so it will be interesting to see if they can continue the steady upward rise in schedule results since the bump to 5A. Not taking anything away from Lawrence County, but I just believe this one goes to the TomCats.

PHSForever you have a couple good points. One: Ashland has a very good coach in Leon Hart. And the tomcats had to play very tough teams in the playoffs. {but thats when you play the better teams} Ashand may very well beat the dawgs. But we don't even know what these teams will bring to the field. Heck the tomcats may have two or three key injuries by the time they play LCHS. Or what if a key player or two has gotten in trouble and got kicked off the team! ect. ect. Alot of if's before this game is played. But I bet by the week that these two teams play we will all know about how good a game this will be. Good luck to both these teams. Both schools love their FOOTBALL!

[charlie22]

I agree..I think TomCats win this one. If everyone remembers, in 2006, they were a 3A team, and then in 2007 were bumped to 5A, and their record reflected the big jump up. Leon Hart (whom I know and believe is a FANTASTIC coach, IMHO) has since had to face Dixie Heights, Cov Cath, Johnson Central, etc usually in the first round. I think this is a program that is really on the rise in 5A, so it will be interesting to see if they can continue the steady upward rise in schedule results since the bump to 5A. Not taking anything away from Lawrence County, but I just believe this one goes to the TomCats.

With all respect, if I'm interpreting your post correctly (and if not, I apologize) you seem to be saying the bump to 5A is responsible for Ashland's record not being as good recently. If I'm not mistaken, when Ashland was in 3A, we only had 4 classes and Ashland played schools roughly its size. Ashland got bumped to 5A when we went to 6 classes and Ashland was still playing schools roughly its size. To the extent Ashlands record has not be as good recently as it was when it was 3A, I'm not sure that I could agree that the bump to 5A had anything to do with it unless I'm missing something. Am I?

As for playoff opponents, JC, Dixie and CovCath were all playoff opponents for Ashland when Ashland was in 3A. The timing of playing them may have been a little different, but that has more to do with how the KHSAA has handled the scheduling of the first two rounds (used to be "in district" but now is "out of district") than it has to do with a change in classification for Ashland.

[PHSForever]

With all respect, if I'm interpreting your post correctly (and if not, I apologize) you seem to be saying the bump to 5A is responsible for Ashland's record not being as good recently. If I'm not mistaken, when Ashland was in 3A, we only had 4 classes and Ashland played schools roughly its size. Ashland got bumped to 5A when we went to 6 classes and Ashland was still playing schools roughly its size. To the extent Ashlands record has not be as good recently as it was when it was 3A, I'm not sure that I could agree that the bump to 5A had anything to do with it unless I'm missing something. Am I?

As for playoff opponents, JC, Dixie and CovCath were all playoff opponents for Ashland when Ashland was in 3A. The timing of playing them may have been a little different, but that has more to do with how the KHSAA has handled the scheduling of the first two rounds (used to be "in district" but now is "out of district") than it has to do with a change in classification for Ashland.

It's not completely just the jump up in size, it's the quality of opponents. Cov Cath, Dixie Heights, etc. all play a tougher opponent week in and week out that Ashland. Additionally, with the new alignment for 2011, Ashland has dropped back down to 4A, which more realistaically reflects their enrollment, etc. for the 09-10 year, their enrollement was 951, with 466 boys, while Dixie Heights was 1393, with 722 boys, JC was 1040 with 499 boys, etc. All things considered, I think 4A is right about where they need to be, and have a more accurate reflection of the enrollment size and available student population from which to draw players, etc for that level of play. For example, in 05-06, enrollement at Ashland was 966, and at LC was 833 (total). In 09-10, it was 951 at Ashland and 726 at LC. A lot of variables come into play, such as the off season programs, support of the administration and fans, etc. But in the end, 4A is the right home for Ashland, and I believe they will go a little deeper into the playoffs year over year and build a fan base to back that level of support again. Leon was ahead of his time a little when he coached at EKU, and it was just great getting to see how he thought and coached up close during my time there. I think it translates well to high school.

[charlie22]

It's not completely just the jump up in size, it's the quality of opponents. Cov Cath, Dixie Heights, etc. all play a tougher opponent week in and week out that Ashland. Additionally, with the new alignment for 2011, Ashland has dropped back down to 4A, which more realistaically reflects their enrollment, etc. for the 09-10 year, their enrollement was 951, with 466 boys, while Dixie Heights was 1393, with 722 boys, JC was 1040 with 499 boys, etc. All things considered, I think 4A is right about where they need to be, and have a more accurate reflection of the enrollment size and available student population from which to draw players, etc for that level of play. For example, in 05-06, enrollement at Ashland was 966, and at LC was 833 (total). In 09-10, it was 951 at Ashland and 726 at LC. A lot of variables come into play, such as the off season programs, support of the administration and fans, etc. But in the end, 4A is the right home for Ashland, and I believe they will go a little deeper into the playoffs year over year and build a fan base to back that level of support again. Leon was ahead of his time a little when he coached at EKU, and it was just great getting to see how he thought and coached up close during my time there. I think it translates well to high school.

Fair enough, but keep in mind that CovCath and JC are also moving down to 4A so Ashland will have to continue to contend with them, as well as Highlands. Further, while they no longer may have to contend with Dixie, they now have to possibly deal with LexCath and Boyle in the playoffs. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but if I was a Tomcat fan, I'd rather have stayed in 5A.

[PHSForever]

Fair enough, but keep in mind that CovCath and JC are also moving down to 4A so Ashland will have to continue to contend with them, as well as Highlands. Further, while they no longer may have to contend with Dixie, they now have to possibly deal with LexCath and Boyle in the playoffs. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but if I was a Tomcat fan, I'd rather have stayed in 5A.

Very good points. For future reference to you (and others), here is the 2011-2014 realignment:

http://www.khsaa.org/football/realignmen...gnment.pdf

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

Will be a very good game ill take paul blazer.

[lcgrad2002]

I personally wish this game was played at the end of the year so we could see an even better game, but this should be one of the best opening matchups of the season. Ashland does have more to choose from as far as depth goes but usually when these two meet it is a blowout depending on who the home team is. I will take the Bulldogs in a defensive game.

LC 21

APB- 14

[charlie22]

Very good points. For future reference to you (and others), here is the 2011-2014 realignment:

http://www.khsaa.org/football/realignmen...gnment.pdf

Thanks. I already had it taped to the wall next to my computer.