How weak is the 15th?

wildcat_mania · 02-01-2011, 11:22 PM

Is it me, or is the 15th region at an all time low?

**Belfry0304** · 02-01-2011, 11:34 PM

How "week"? Lmao...

**Panther Thunder** · 02-02-2011, 12:27 AM

It's bad. No great teams. But you have 4-5 quality teams. Super competitive.

***Spud6*** · 02-02-2011, 12:37 AM

Its weaker. But I would rather watch a bunch of teams be competitive than Shelby Valley dominate everyone like last year.

**Scotty doesn't know** · 02-02-2011, 01:39 AM

Very competitive as evident by Valley's near upset of Pikeville at home, but still seems that the top 4-5 teams are the ones that are separating from the pack. I would say that the rest of the region is pretty consistent throughout.

The Iceboxx · 02-02-2011, 03:00 AM

Its competitive between around 5 or 6 teams within the region, but on a state wide level...its by far the weakest region and the state, and the winner will most likely get embarassed at Rupp.

In retrospect...Johnson Central got beat by 5 at home against Bath Co. (16th region), who is a middle of the pack 16th team.

Tellme2 · 02-02-2011, 10:28 AM

Disagree with it being weak. It is always if someone besides the usual isn't Powerhousing teams it is a weak region.. Maybe when teams have been beeting teams by 40 with 6 players they should be using there future players and it would've been no different than now.

**BlackcatAlum** · 02-02-2011, 10:33 AM

There are two teams in this region capable of competing with most of the teams in the top 20 in the state and that's Johnson Central & Betsy Layne. Pikeville has a pretty good team too and so does East Ridge & Belfry, but from there down it's very, very weak.

I do think the 15th is the weakest in the state.

RollTribe · 02-02-2011, 10:52 AM

BlackcatAlum Wrote:There are two teams in this region capable of competing with most of the teams in the top 20 in the state and that's Johnson Central & Betsy Layne. Pikeville has a pretty good team too and so does East Ridge & Belfry, but from there down it's very, very weak.

I do think the 15th is the weakest in the state.

LOL. Neither team could beat 50% of the 14th, 16th, . Less than a 3rd of the 2nd region, 6th region, and none of the 7th, from what ive seen! Its weak!! You have to ask yourself this, how many players from the 15th will get quality minutes playing college ball? How many teams have more than 1 that will? Then ask the same about other regions. Maybe you could start a thread asking just that for the different regions and compare the answers!

**BlackcatAlum** · 02-02-2011, 11:11 AM

RollTribe Wrote:LOL. Neither team could beat 50% of the 14th, 16th, . Less than a 3rd of the 2nd region, 6th region, and none of the 7th, from what ive seen! Its weak!! You have to ask yourself this, how many players from the 15th will get quality minutes playing college ball? How many teams have more than 1 that will? Then ask the same about other regions. Maybe you could start a thread asking just that for the different regions and compare the answers!

That I doubt.

I'll take Ashland & Perry Central over both Betsy Layne & Johnson Central, but BL & JC would be two of the better teams in either of those regions.

JC's loss to Bath County came only a week or so after football season had ended for them. I do think that would be a totally different game now.

McCameraMan · 02-02-2011, 02:00 PM

BlackcatAlum Wrote:That I doubt.

I'll take Ashland & Perry Central over both Betsy Layne & Johnson Central, but BL & JC would be two of the better teams in either of those regions.

JC's loss to Bath County came only a week or so after football season had ended for them. I do think that would be a totally different game now.

I agree 100%.

Time2Shine · 02-02-2011, 03:03 PM

The 15th is weak to compete in state. But the region itself is competive you got about 5 or 6 teams that can win it.

**Scotty doesn't know** · 02-02-2011, 03:27 PM

Yea, this year, the region has returned to its normal stature in the state. The team that does come out of the region will be the 16th ranked team out of all of the team down at the tourney. Depending on the drawing, it could be a loss by 3 or a loss by 10 or so. But the winner should not really be expected to win a game down in Rupp.

justabballfan · 02-02-2011, 03:47 PM

IMO the 15th region is about as weak as it has ever been, I mean there are a couple of average teams which make for some competetive basketball but I don't see the winner of the 15th even coming close to winning a game at Rupp. I hope to see BL win a game or two in the all A but I wouldn't count on it either and what BL does in Richmond will tell us alot more about the 15th region.

***zaga_fan*** · 02-02-2011, 03:53 PM

It's definitely the weakest in the mountains and possibly the state.

bball_fan · 02-02-2011, 03:56 PM

If you go by Max Preps, which I have found to be the most honest ranking system, Betsy Layne is one of the 5 best teams competing in All A State. Coach Wells from Pikeville College even told one of BL assistant coaches that the best team in the All A was University Heights which Betsy Layne has already beaten. Looking at the draw, I believe the winner of the Betsy Layne Gallatin County game will have a great shot at making the finals. The best team in my opinion is Newport Central Catholic and Hazard got the horrible draw of getting them in the second round if they beat University Heights. I wouldn't say that this region is weak, it certainly is not as top heavy as it was a year ago but I would believe it is stronger then the 16th and some of the regions out west. The best part of All A for Betsy Layne is more then likely they are not going to see a Box & 1 on Nathan Martin every single game which should help to get him going.

LClion4life · 02-02-2011, 08:53 PM

bball_fan Wrote:If you go by Max Preps, which I have found to be the most honest ranking system, Betsy Layne is one of the 5 best teams competing in All A State. Coach Wells from Pikeville College even told one of BL assistant coaches that the best team in the All A was University Heights which Betsy Layne has already beaten. Looking at the draw, I believe the winner of the Betsy Layne Gallatin County game will have a great shot at making the finals. The best team in my opinion is Newport Central Catholic and Hazard got the horrible draw of getting them in the second round if they beat University Heights. I wouldn't say that this region is weak, it certainly is not as top heavy as it was a year ago but I would believe it is stronger then the 16th and some of the regions out west. The best part of All A for Betsy Layne is more then likely they are not going to see a Box & 1 on Nathan Martin every single game which should help to get him going.

I don't think it is better than the 16th.

wildcat_mania · 02-02-2011, 09:00 PM

The 15th is way down this year. BL will run through the region with no problem. There are so many teams with little or no talent. I dont see any teams who are fundamentally round like so many teams from last year. teams such as valley, BL, Pikeville, lawerence. Teams like that. Betsy layne by far has the most talent in the region this season. but every other team in the region is just below average.

Take any team from this year and put them in a game from their team from last year. no doubt it would be a blow out.

Quarterback7 · 02-02-2011, 09:43 PM

Its stronger overall than the 14th. This is the weakest the 14th has been maybe ever.

Time2Shine · 02-02-2011, 11:07 PM

wildcat_mania Wrote:The 15th is way down this year. BL will run through the region with no problem. There are so many teams with little or no talent. I dont see any teams who are fundamentally round like so many teams from last year. teams such as valley, BL, Pikeville, lawerence. Teams like that. Betsy layne by far has the most talent in the region this season. but every other team in the region is just below average.

Take any team from this year and put them in a game from their team from last year. no doubt it would be a blow out.

betsy layne will not run through the region with no problem. johnson central can beat them pikeville can beat them. any in my opinion theres about 5 or 6 teams in the region that can beat anybody in the region on any given night. do you watch alot of teams around the region? or just watch betsy layne?

i know, right? · 02-02-2011, 11:17 PM

Time2Shine Wrote:betsy layne will not run through the region with no problem. johnson central can beat them pikeville can beat them. any in my opinion theres about 5 or 6 teams in the region that can beat anybody in the region on any given night. do you watch alot of teams around the region? or just watch betsy layne?

Agreed! 100% :Thumbs:

The Arch Warrior · 02-03-2011, 12:47 AM

I believe it was a little bit weaker last year except for Valley but Valley would have been weak 2 if it wasn't for all the held back seniors, but this year Pikeville, Betsy Layne have really been surprising!

wildcat_mania · 02-03-2011, 02:03 PM

Time2Shine Wrote:betsy layne will not run through the region with no problem. johnson central can beat them pikeville can beat them. any in my opinion theres about 5 or 6 teams in the region that can beat anybody in the region on any given night. do you watch alot of teams around the region? or just watch betsy layne?

uh yea i have watched almost every team play in the region. And i have yet to see a team out of the 15th beat BL. i believe they are undefeated in the region. i have also watched them beat JC, Pikeville, sheldon clark and all of the other so called 'Outstanding" teams in the 15th. BL will have no problem

fairweatherfan · 02-03-2011, 02:14 PM

I am not saying that BL won't win it but they beat Johnson Central by 4 at home. Close enough that I wouldn't say no problem.

They beat Shelby Valley by 7 and Prestonsburg by 10 (which are 2 of the bottom five teams in the region). Lead PBurg by 2 at half. Problem.

They may not win district at South Floyd who they only beat by single digits twice.

Pikeville was a 5 point win. So, to say no problem is definitely a stretch.

Tellme2 · 02-05-2011, 11:11 PM

Which State?

big yellow ball fan · 02-06-2011, 08:54 PM

I guess being called weak is not bad if you bring home the trophy:1:
BOBCATS you made Floyd County PROUD :Thumbs: :rockon::Cheerlead:Clap:

Has Been · 02-06-2011, 10:02 PM

justabballfan Wrote:IMO the 15th region is about as weak as it has ever been, I mean there are a couple of average teams which make for some competetive basketball but I don't see the winner of the 15th even coming close to winning a game at Rupp. I hope to see BL win a game or two in the all A but I wouldn't count on it either and what BL does in Richmond will tell us alot more about the 15th region.

Well what have we learned?

Blackwater · 02-06-2011, 10:22 PM

Well....................I believe the team BLHS beat is from Louisville. An all male school with 631 boys enrolled and a few athletes as evident in football and basketball. West Carter is a strong team from the 16th. Most regions have five or six teams that are pretty good. The coaches develop game plans that plays to their team's strenghths and exposes the other team's weaknesses. The box and one that BLHS played today took Desales out of their game. Is the 15th the weakest regiona? I can't make a educated statement on that because I have not been able to watch the so called top 5 or 6 teams in each region play. I do know that a 15th region team won the All A.

Cardinal Fan 12 · 02-06-2011, 10:24 PM

wildcat_mania Wrote:Is it me, or is the 15th region at an all time low?

Can't be as low as you think. They just won the All A. So other regions have to be weaker than the 15th.

bobcatfan12 · 02-06-2011, 10:36 PM

How weak? Betsy Layne won the All A State Championship!