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What coach's will be staying or going from the 15th?
#31
I belive Belter is fine with Valley. Actually dortonWildcat can you clear this us since you know the coach pretty well lol!
#32
Everyone knows that R & G Newsome had a lot to do with the growing of this Valley team and several other outstanding players in this area . So if Booher knows this then he will jump while his rep. is high or he may choose to stay at Valley to prove all gritics wrong . That he can build a team with whats there and whats coming .
#33
pillsburythrowboy Wrote:I belive Belter is fine with Valley. Actually dortonWildcat can you clear this us since you know the coach pretty well lol!

Unless something drastic happens, Belter will be at SV. We've heard rumors of Pikeville and East Ridge, but they are just rumors. He wants to go to SV and it would take something major to change his mind. His brother has told me nothing about moving down state. We hear these rumors every year when boys are getting ready to enter high school. The courting of players these days is getting out of hand and just about all schools do it. It would be ashame to break these 2 groups of kids up because they are pretty talented.
#34
I think Harless has done a great job and I dont think he should play Mark Blackburns son, the only thing he should be doing on the team is maybe be waterboy
#35
How can you know anything about basketball and say Roger Harless is not a GREAT COACH ?? Who taught Carla Booth (best player in region ) to play? Roger Harless. Ask her yourself. Who taught BJ Moore to play? (4th leading scorer in state) Roger Harless. Who taught every player who has accomplished anything in Martin Co. in last 30 years? Roger Harless
Who stopped Bill Mike Runyons from getting to the State tournament in early 90's. Roger Harless coaching at SCHS. After he was forced out at SCHS, Paintsville went on a tear and SCHS declined until they couldn't even compete with anyone. Coach Harless has resurrected SCHS once again only to be forced out again.
#36
If Booher does leave what about Lonnie "Doe Doe" Rowe? Doe Doe I deserves the job I believe. He was helping his brother during his tenure and has payed his dues. He has great knowledge of the game and is from the area and is familiar with the kids. With the talent level that coach booher has had a lot coaches could have been successful. One can only imagine what would have happened if Rodney Rowe could have kept the job.
#37
you can't go wrong with the Rowe brothers, They know their basketball!!
#38
I think Booher will be back.Good luck to all the coaches next year.Coaching is tuff/
#39
DortonWildcat5 Wrote:Unless something drastic happens, Belter will be at SV. We've heard rumors of Pikeville and East Ridge, but they are just rumors. He wants to go to SV and it would take something major to change his mind. His brother has told me nothing about moving down state. We hear these rumors every year when boys are getting ready to enter high school. The courting of players these days is getting out of hand and just about all schools do it. It would be ashame to break these 2 groups of kids up because they are pretty talented.


I agree 100%.

I do not think there was a team in the Pike County final four that had the same roster as last year.

Caudill from Dorton has been to 4-5 schools

Coleman from Feds Creek was shopped to Elkhorn before going to FC.

Mullins had exactly 1 kid in their starting 5 that had went to Mullins the year before.

Mcnaldo from Virgie is from BL.

Elkhorn City has kids from who knows where, not to mention what they pulled in the 7th grade tourney.

You know Belfry had some new kids.
#40
I, for one think that Booher is as good as it gets for Valley.. but GOD forbid he should go elsewhere, there would definately be a shake-up as for as Valley's up-coming team..... unless they should get a coach from another area, in County or out of the area...... let's just not count BOOHER out until he's gone...OK?????
#41
EOE Wrote:My quess is that Booher will abandon ship, and he might show up somewhere else in the 15th.
Why in the world would he leave SV for another 15th region school? SV has a gym full of talent coming up.
#42
NYY10 Wrote:you can't go wrong with the Rowe brothers, They know their basketball!!
I agree they are basketball fanatics,and good coaches, plus they are great people.
#43
Exactly ........
#44
The Icon Wrote:One can only imagine what would have happened if Rodney Rowe could have kept the job.

:thatsfunn Please explain!
#45
OMG, I have heard alot of people say why coaches should go, why they should stay, who should get their job, and what others have done or will do. So, im gonna go out on a limb here and say that 95% of the people commenting on this one are COACHES. Im also gonna say, since this has turned into a dicussion of who should get the jobs of the coaches that potentially leave and why coaches should leave, that a good coach is a winning one. If you win you are a good coach. Yeah, some may know the game better, some may have more experience, some may be great people, but if you dont win it doesnt matter. Coaches cant blame talent for losses or for what they have not accomplished, I have seen a lot of talented teams get beat year in and year out, take Holmes and Trinity this year for example and a lot of low talent teams make big wins. A good coach knows the game, knows the level of talent he has, and makes decision to use what telent he has in the most productive way. A good coach also knows how to manage the egos of the talented, the insecurities of the role players, and the mommies and daddies coaching from the stands. He gets 110% out of what he has. So, if you think your coach is better than the one that currentley has the job, ask yourself this, does he win more games and championships??? If the answer is no, then what ever attributes you can assess and evidence about him, he is still lacking somewhere and not the better coach. The best always always always always win!!
#46
Great Post! what you are saying is exactly right, great coaches always find a way to take what they have and make the best of it. Some of the best coaching jobs I have ever seen have been teams with sub-par records
#47
DortonWildcat5 Wrote:I hope he stays as well. Personally, I feel that Coach Booher doesn't get enough credit because this team is so talented. It takes a good coach to keep a good team focused and to have good chemistry. Several of SV's players could be the best player on another team in the region so I think he has done a good job keeping them playing as a team and sharing the ball so well. The boys deserved a lot of credit as well because of their hard work and unselfishness.

I have said all year that he is a great salesman. He gets the players to play team ball and buy into his system. Look what great things can happen when no one cares who gets the credit. All five starters would be stars on any other team in the region, but they have excepted their roles. Lets not forget the parents have accepted them as well and that says a lot about them as well. Congrats and bring home the Sweet 16 title.

So everyone knows I am from Pikeville not Shelby Valley.
#48
Greg Newsome and Robert Newsome deserve alot of credit as well.Those kids were winning big before Booher came there.I am talking about AAU and Grade school state champs.Those kids have always played together.AGAIN gREG DESERVES SO MUCH CREDIT!!
#49
Commanche Wrote:I have said all year that he is a great salesman. He gets the players to play team ball and buy into his system. Look what great things can happen when no one cares who gets the credit. All five starters would be stars on any other team in the region, but they have excepted their roles. Lets not forget the parents have accepted them as well and that says a lot about them as well. Congrats and bring home the Sweet 16 title.

So everyone knows I am from Pikeville not Shelby Valley.

Excellent post. Sometimes ego gets the best of people. Good luck SV!
#50
bluebloodedcatfan Wrote:I heard Beltner from Dorton is being recruited by a big time school down state is this a remurs

If hes almost 7'0 and didnt win his county gradeschool championship, theres something very wrong with that picture. He must not be too dominant since they didnt even win the county championship! Im not degrading the young man but come on?
#51
catfan1 Wrote:If hes almost 7'0 and didnt win his county gradeschool championship, theres something very wrong with that picture. He must not be too dominant since they didnt even win the county championship! Im not degrading the young man but come on?

The other two teams that were in the running for the county champs had very good teams with very good guards. The only thing wrong with the picture is that you must not be too tuned in to the channel of what it takes to win at the game of basketball. He is very dominant at his position.
#52
I have heard that Booher is going to an adminstrative job in the school system. I have heard that Rodney Rowe's brother will be taking the boys team. I have also heard the Clay Campbell is getting out at Phelps. His decision, not being forced. I have heard that the ax will fall this week at Sheldon Clark. Not a big Harless fan either but this whole deal stinks and I hope the parents over there raise ten kinds of **** about it. I have also heard that Johnny Martin wont be back at Pike Central next year either. All of this is talk I have heard dont no how true any of it is. I dont think that SV will be that far down next year. The rest of the region is not that good. The reserves for SV got alot of playing time this year with there margins of victory especially in the region. So I see them being as competitive as any one else next year. I think some of these coaches have eased up the last couple of years with SV's success and it is time for them to get back in the game.
#53
catfan1 Wrote:If hes almost 7'0 and didnt win his county gradeschool championship, theres something very wrong with that picture. He must not be too dominant since they didnt even win the county championship! Im not degrading the young man but come on?


You clearly do not understand what it takes to win basketball games.
#54
pirate4287 Wrote:Why in the world would he leave SV for another 15th region school? SV has a gym full of talent coming up.

Like I said in a earlier post, he might not be coaching next year.Confusedhh:
#55
Rodney Rowe was the best that Valley ever had or will ever have.
#56
The reason I posted what I did is because I agree with EOE I feel Rodney was a great coach, I feel his name comes up in the discussion when you talk about great coaches in the 15th region. Alot of people say that winning is what coaches ares suppose to do. Well at the time of Rodney's departure Shelby Valley was winning. With this being said I feel that Lonnie Rowe deserves his shot at the job he was commited to the job for years and has really worked to make sure the talent will continue to be at Valley.
#57
trufan Wrote:The other two teams that were in the running for the county champs had very good teams with very good guards. The only thing wrong with the picture is that you must not be too tuned in to the channel of what it takes to win at the game of basketball. He is very dominant at his position.
You're right on Trufan......good post.
#58
Heard through the grapevine today from a VERY reliable source that Coach Booher will not be returning next year to Shelby Valley or anywhere for that matter. They told me he was going to give up coaching alltogether and that he might even be moving to another state. My own personal opinion, I hope he stays but we will just have to wait and see how it plays out.
#59
The Icon Wrote:The reason I posted what I did is because I agree with EOE I feel Rodney was a great coach, I feel his name comes up in the discussion when you talk about great coaches in the 15th region. Alot of people say that winning is what coaches ares suppose to do. Well at the time of Rodney's departure Shelby Valley was winning. With this being said I feel that Lonnie Rowe deserves his shot at the job he was commited to the job for years and has really worked to make sure the talent will continue to be at Valley.

So your saying Rodney's brother should get the job because hes the brother of a good coach and he is commited. My brother is a vet and I love horses, but for some reason no one lets me operate on them. Side note: Did not the best player from like 3 diff schools transfer in to Valleys girls for bout 3 years, two of which are seniors now and loose the district to ERHS a school from which one of the girls came? Again this is a question i dont know if its factual. But he did win a region with the boys. But still has no bearing on whether his brother is a good coach
#60
No, actually I said Lonnie Rowe deserves a shot at the job because he is a good coach. If I am not mistaken his brother was the assistant when they won the region, so he does have some experience with winning. It just so happens he is the brother of another good coach. As far as the girls issue goes I have no idea on that but Rodney has proven his self in the boy's ranks, and you can't take that away from him.

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