[mister... basketball]

Here is a kid that is only in the 8th grade that is and is going to be a monster. click here to see this kid from Lafayette HS.

he had a pretty nice dunk the other night against south floyd.

[LeeCoUKFan]

At least Lewis plays them too bad Lee Co. doesn't have any one that could do it.:lmao:

Obviously you have never heard or seen of Dontarius Pittman!

[LeeCoUKFan]

Not bashing the kid because all three of the Knipps are great kids (Chris, Sonny, Timmy), but look at the teams he's dunking on. I seem to remember him getting dunked on TWICE by Elijah Pittman last year at state. Pretty sure Adams of SV had a dunk over him last year in the All "A" as well.

There's more to getting a D1 scholarship than just being athletic and being able to dunk. Knipp is 6'7 so of course he's able to throw one down when he wants...there are plenty of 6'0-6'1 GUARDS in the 7th region that are doing the same things night in and night out though.

Let's see how he develops over the next two years before we start putting unfair pressure on the KID.

Please, name me all these 6'0''-6'1'' guards that are going through traffic and throwing down on a one step jump!

[LeeCoUKFan]

Here is a kid that is only in the 8th grade that is and is going to be a monster. click here to see this kid from Lafayette HS.

Did those dunks really win the contest? Those are just regular dunks, not very impressive.

[mister... basketball]

Please, name me all these 6'0''-6'1'' guards that are going through traffic and throwing down on a one step jump!

haha i wanna know who they are too.
there must be some real freak athletes
that we dont know bout here in the bluegrass lol

[kywldcat01]

Tell me how many 6'7'' kids have those kinds of moves and athletic ability especially in the mountains! Most kids especially in the montains that are used at the Center position have no athletic ability! Here he is going against smaller faster players and going right around them and dunking with really no speed built up, i would hate to think what his vertical has to be! And those are main qualities for D1 and then thats not even including the fact that he is leading the state in scoring! Oh yeah he will be a D1 players if he wants!

You do realize there's hundreds of 6'7 kids across the country doing that, right? Why do you think the college game has gone to bigger guards? I realize a kid like TK is rare in the mountains, but outside of the mountains that isn't rare at all. Elijah Pittman and Donovan Gibbs both come to mind without thinking about anyone else.

Again, look at the competition he's doing this again. Look at how he's fared agaisnt the better big men over the past two years (Pittman, Barnhill, Setty) and you'll understand why I say he has some work to do before he can play ATLEAST mid major ball. He can definetly play low D1 but his defense would have to improve tremendously to be considered higher than that. Pittman abused him last year in the state tournament to the tune of 23 pts and 12 rbs while holding Tk to I think 10 points. Barnhill has had big offensive outputs everytime they've went up against one another.

Offensively, TK is very good agaisnt the weak teams you're mentioning. But against the better teams he's gone up against the past few years with athletic big men, he's struggled to defend them. And the fact that TK takes around 25 shots per game has a lot to do with him leading the state in scoring.

You do realize that schools like EKU, Murry State, and Morehead are D-1 right?

If Dakotah Euton can go to Akron and play in the MAC, then im convinced that Timmy can play atleast in Confrence USA. Timmy has a lot of upside. Hes to big to get checked by a 2, but hes to athletic, and can play around the arc. So a 4 will have trouble keeping up.

I got to catch a game earlier this season, against Rowan co. In the first half the Vikings tried to guard Knipp with Darrell Cross(their RB in football, that runs a sub 4.5, 40 yard dash). Knipp scored 20+ in the first half. In the second they switched it up and tried to guard him with Adam Wing(their QB, who is a solid 6'4") Knipp finished the game with 39 points and around 15 rebounds. This game is a perfect example of how he will play D-1 basketball. He will create mis-matches for the next 6 years.

I said TK could play at the LOW D1 level...that's exactly what Murray, EKU, and Morehead are.

There's no comparison between Euton and T. Knipp. Euton is a much better outside shooter, stronger, better ball handler, and stronger in the paint. The only area that TK would get the nod is quickness and athleticism.. I do agree that Timmy has a lot of upside but you have to realize in college he won't be going against 6'1-6'4 kids. He'll be checked by a 6'6-6'7 kid with just as much quickness and athleticism. HE won't create as many mis-matches as you say. Playing weak teams like Rowan Co and playing against D1 caliber teams/players are two completely different levels. Look at how Tk fared against Pittman last year. Those are the types of players he'll see every night in college.

Please, name me all these 6'0''-6'1'' guards that are going through traffic and throwing down on a one step jump!

5'10 Blake Bryan- Villa Madonna
5'11 Thomas Jackson- J'town
6'0 Jaylen Beckham- Lexcath
6'1 Delquan Thomas- Eastern
6'1 Ian Chiles- Ballard
6'1 Devante Parker- Ballard
6'2 Aaron Nance- Seneca
6'1 Jaleel Gray- Holmes
6'1 Chris Hayes- Holmes

Heck, Holmes has a 5'9 guard (Jaydale Herndon) that rose up and threw one down this year. Do I need to continue? Dunking is nice, but it's not as rare as some of you EKY folks are making it sound.

[welcometothejungle]

You do realize there's hundreds of 6'7 kids across the country doing that, right? Why do you think the college game has gone to bigger guards? I realize a kid like TK is rare in the mountains, but outside of the mountains that isn't rare at all. Elijah Pittman and Donovan Gibbs both come to mind without thinking about anyone else.

Again, look at the competition he's doing this again. Look at how he's fared agaisnt the better big men over the past two years (Pittman, Barnhill, Setty) and you'll understand why I say he has some work to do before he can play ATLEAST mid major ball. He can definetly play low D1 but his defense would have to improve tremendously to be considered higher than that. Pittman abused him last year in the state tournament to the tune of 23 pts and 12 rbs while holding Tk to I think 10 points. Barnhill has had big offensive outputs everytime they've went up against one another.

Offensively, TK is very good agaisnt the weak teams you're mentioning. But against the better teams he's gone up against the past few years with athletic big men, he's struggled to defend them. And the fact that TK takes around 25 shots per game has a lot to do with him leading the state in scoring.



I said TK could play at the LOW D1 level...that's exactly what Murray, EKU, and Morehead are.

There's no comparison between Euton and T. Knipp. Euton is a much better outside shooter, stronger, better ball handler, and stronger in the paint. The only area that TK would get the nod is quickness and athleticism.. I do agree that Timmy has a lot of upside but you have to realize in college he won't be going against 6'1-6'4 kids. He'll be checked by a 6'6-6'7 kid with just as much quickness and athleticism. HE won't create as many mis-matches as you say. Playing weak teams like Rowan Co and playing against D1 caliber teams/players are two completely different levels. Look at how Tk fared against Pittman last year. Those are the types of players he'll see every night in college.




5'10 Blake Bryan- Villa Madonna
5'11 Thomas Jackson- J'town
6'0 Jaylen Beckham- Lexcath
6'1 Delquan Thomas- Eastern
6'1 Ian Chiles- Ballard
6'1 Devante Parker- Ballard
6'2 Aaron Nance- Seneca
6'1 Jaleel Gray- Holmes
6'1 Chris Hayes- Holmes

Heck, Holmes has a 5'9 guard (Jaydale Herndon) that rose up and threw one down this year. Do I need to continue? Dunking is nice, but it's not as rare as some of you EKY folks are making it sound.

You must not have watched his state tourney performance last year. The kid was a beast. He made the all tourney team as a Sophmore. Tell me how many payers have done that over the years. And dont bring up that stuff that Pittman abused HIM last year. If you watched Elliott County play, and know basketball, you would have seen that Pittman had a good game against ELLIOTT CO. Timmy responsibilities on that team was far more than just guarding Pittman. Elliott County threw traps at everyone they played and it was everyones responbility to rotate to other players. Timmy prolly wasnt on Pittman half the game. Timmy will play at a higher level than Pittman does.

As a Junior, Timmy Knipp already has 4 D 1 offers. Radford, Tennessee Tech, The Citadel, and Missouri State. He is being recruited by enough mid major schools to make your head swirl and sevel high major schools are in contact with him or his high school coach often. I know I have heard Coach Adkins say it is frequent that he hears from Mr. Travis Ford down at Oklahoma St. Id says he prolly a sure fire D1 player.

[The Iceboxx]

Dakotah Euton does not have a better jump shot than Knipp, he also does not have better ball handling skills. These are my opinions of course, and everyone is intitled to their own.

Someone mentioned Donovon Gibbs earlier who is headed to IUPUI. The diffrence between Timmy Knipp and Donovon is that TK is more hungry with basketball. Gibbs is a senior who isnt even the leading scorer on his team. Gibbs is more athletic, got a better shot, can dunk better but he is so timid. I would take Knipp over Gibbs anyday, because Knipp tries to dunk on people, instead of just during warm ups.

I dont think Knipp has a major D-1 game, but Marshall, MTSU, Toledo ETC. Is within his capabilities. He is only a junior btw

[LeeCoUKFan]

You do realize there's hundreds of 6'7 kids across the country doing that, right? Why do you think the college game has gone to bigger guards? I realize a kid like TK is rare in the mountains, but outside of the mountains that isn't rare at all. Elijah Pittman and Donovan Gibbs both come to mind without thinking about anyone else.

Again, look at the competition he's doing this again. Look at how he's fared agaisnt the better big men over the past two years (Pittman, Barnhill, Setty) and you'll understand why I say he has some work to do before he can play ATLEAST mid major ball. He can definetly play low D1 but his defense would have to improve tremendously to be considered higher than that. Pittman abused him last year in the state tournament to the tune of 23 pts and 12 rbs while holding Tk to I think 10 points. Barnhill has had big offensive outputs everytime they've went up against one another.

Offensively, TK is very good agaisnt the weak teams you're mentioning. But against the better teams he's gone up against the past few years with athletic big men, he's struggled to defend them. And the fact that TK takes around 25 shots per game has a lot to do with him leading the state in scoring.



I said TK could play at the LOW D1 level...that's exactly what Murray, EKU, and Morehead are.

There's no comparison between Euton and T. Knipp. Euton is a much better outside shooter, stronger, better ball handler, and stronger in the paint. The only area that TK would get the nod is quickness and athleticism.. I do agree that Timmy has a lot of upside but you have to realize in college he won't be going against 6'1-6'4 kids. He'll be checked by a 6'6-6'7 kid with just as much quickness and athleticism. HE won't create as many mis-matches as you say. Playing weak teams like Rowan Co and playing against D1 caliber teams/players are two completely different levels. Look at how Tk fared against Pittman last year. Those are the types of players he'll see every night in college.




5'10 Blake Bryan- Villa Madonna
5'11 Thomas Jackson- J'town
6'0 Jaylen Beckham- Lexcath
6'1 Delquan Thomas- Eastern
6'1 Ian Chiles- Ballard
6'1 Devante Parker- Ballard
6'2 Aaron Nance- Seneca
6'1 Jaleel Gray- Holmes
6'1 Chris Hayes- Holmes

Heck, Holmes has a 5'9 guard (Jaydale Herndon) that rose up and threw one down this year. Do I need to continue? Dunking is nice, but it's not as rare as some of you EKY folks are making it sound.

I was just talking about Kentucky when i was referring to how many 6'7'' kids do you see that have those kinds of skills because you've got UK, Louisville, Western Kentucky, EKU, Morehead State, and Murray State who are all D1 schools and NKU will be D1 in the next year or two and a kid from Kentucky with those kind of skills and attributes a great chance of going to any these schools!

As far as these small guards going through heavy traffic and throwing it down on a one step jump, I would really have to see it to believe it! Because you very rarely see it happen in college and not much in the NBA either so i highly doubt that central kentucky is a breeding ground for freakish athletes!

[kywldcat01]

You must not have watched his state tourney performance last year. The kid was a beast. He made the all tourney team as a Sophmore. Tell me how many payers have done that over the years. And dont bring up that stuff that Pittman abused HIM last year. If you watched Elliott County play, and know basketball, you would have seen that Pittman had a good game against ELLIOTT CO. Timmy responsibilities on that team was far more than just guarding Pittman. Elliott County threw traps at everyone they played and it was everyones responbility to rotate to other players. Timmy prolly wasnt on Pittman half the game. Timmy will play at a higher level than Pittman does.

Elijah Pittman and Ricardo Johnson both made the Sweet 16 all tourney team as sophomores.Go back and look at recent sweet 16 all tourney teams and you'll see that it's happened more often than you think.

And I did watch the Holmes/EC game...over and over again. Pittman posted Knipp up, took him off the dribble and dunked twice, and hit a few mid range jumpers with his hand in his face. Don't believe me? You can re-watch the game on either ihigh.com under the KY link or on the khsaa video page. Knipp was on Pittman more than you're thinking. Nobody else could match up with him.

As far as Knipp playing at a higher level than Pittman, that is probably correct but not because of talent, but rather Pittman doesn't have the grades to play D1 RIGHT NOW. Coach Cal, Bob Huggins, Mick Cronin, and the Oklahoma coach have all been on record though as saying they'd love to have Pittman and would offer him when he becomes eligible to play at a D1 program. Get your facts straight before you post something like that. All of the above coaches that I just listed have asked the JUCO's that they have close ties to, to recruit Pittman so they can sign him.

Congrats to TK on the offers, but none of those are exactly high profile programs. I have a relative who currently plays for The Citadel. And jsut because a kid is receiving interest from a school doesn't mean they're going to offer. Travis Ford recruits A LOT in Kentucky because of his ties to the state. I'm pretty sure Vinny Zollo already holds an offer from Mr. Ford, as does Jaylen Beckham in the sophomore class.

I didn't wanna bring this up, but let's not forget that Timmy is also a hold back. He should be a senior right now.

[quote=The Iceboxx]Dakotah Euton does not have a better jump shot than Knipp, he also does not have better ball handling skills. These are my opinions of course, and everyone is intitled to their own.

Someone mentioned Donovon Gibbs earlier who is headed to IUPUI. The diffrence between Timmy Knipp and Donovon is that TK is more hungry with basketball. Gibbs is a senior who isnt even the leading scorer on his team. Gibbs is more athletic, got a better shot, can dunk better but he is so timid. I would take Knipp over Gibbs anyday, because Knipp tries to dunk on people, instead of just during warm ups.

I dont think Knipp has a major D-1 game, but Marshall, MTSU, Toledo ETC. Is within his capabilities. He is only a junior btw

I don't know when the last time was that you saw Euton but that kid can stroke it from outside. He has been recruited the way he has because of his shooting ability. He must be better than you're giving him credit for considering as soon as he de-committed from UK, Oregon St, Oklahoma St, Akron, EKU, and Western all offered within two weeks.

As far as Gibbs, he doesn't have to be as aggressive as TK because he has another D1 prospect next to him in 6'5 Jermaine Jackson as well as several other good guards like Sam Tolliver. Knipp is relied on by his team to do a lot of scoring because they don't really have anyone else at Elliott Co to consistently score like Timmy.

You just named several different qualities about Gibbs that are better than Knipp but yet you'd take Knipp over Gibbs because Knipp tries to dunk over poeple? :thatsfunn Gibbs is a much better prospect because of his demeanor on the court, ability to play inside or outside, and the fact that he plays more within the team than TK does...all while also being more athletic and able to defend better.

I was just talking about Kentucky when i was referring to how many 6'7'' kids do you see that have those kinds of skills because you've got UK, Louisville, Western Kentucky, EKU, Morehead State, and Murray State who are all D1 schools and NKU will be D1 in the next year or two and a kid from Kentucky with those kind of skills and attributes a great chance of going to any these schools!

As far as these small guards going through heavy traffic and throwing it down on a one step jump, I would really have to see it to believe it! Because you very rarely see it happen in college and not much in the NBA either so i highly doubt that central kentucky is a breeding ground for freakish athletes!

1. NKU won't be D1 within the next year or two. It's in their TEN YEAR plan to be D1 though. They can't go D1 until all of their club teams (hockey in particular) become ceritfied through the NCAA. This will be atleast a 5 year process. They'll have a football team before they go D1. Basketball is the only D1 facility that they have. Soccer is next, then baseball, then a hockey facility, then football, then you'll see basketball and other sports go D1.

Again, dunking by smaller guards may be rare in EKY, but it happens all the time outside of the mountains. Look at what Arrez Henderson of Holmes did in the state tourney in 08. He was 6'1 at best.

Don't believe me though? Watch the Scott Co/Ballard game on wazoo and you'll see both Devante Parker (6'1) and Ian Chiles (6'1) throw it down in traffic. Parker has 2 or 3 dunks that game with 2 being alley oops. Find Jaylen Beckham on youtube and you'll see several dunks by him in traffic too.

Just because you don't see it in the mountains doesn't mean it doesn't happen in other areas around the state. There's two different sources above to prove my point.

[Benchwarmer]

Dude, your fighting a losing battle when you go against kw01's vast knowledge of D-1 prospects. One more thing Knipp is from EKY. No way is he D-1 material:eyeroll: My opinion the boy will go D-1 easily.

I agree.

[Benchwarmer]

kywldcat01's
You do realize there's hundreds of 6'7 kids across the country doing that, right? Why do you think the college game has gone to bigger guards? I realize a kid like TK is rare in the mountains, but outside of the mountains that isn't rare at all. Elijah Pittman and Donovan Gibbs both come to mind without thinking about anyone else.


So the mountain kids don't have any good players because TK players are rare in the mountains.

[Benchwarmer]

kywldcat01
"Just because you don't see it in the mountains doesn't mean it doesn't happen in other areas around the state. There's two different sources above to prove my point."

So we need to get out of the holler to see guards dunk?
Has Shelby Valley Justice have any dunks this year? I think so
KCC has a 6 foot guard that can through one down.

[Benchwarmer]

How about congrats TK for that great dunk. Throw it down young feller.

[The Iceboxx]

Hold on, Jermaine Jackson is a stretch at 6'2", and he is not a D-1 prospect. At what level do you see him playing, Gibbs is playing at 6'7" and he is the best athlete in the 6th. Gibbs signed a LOI to play at IUPUI.....so where do you see Jackson playing, He's a 6'2" PF. He just can shoot the three ball is where his points come from.

Timmy Knipps demeanor is exactly why I would take him over Gibbs. I watched Gibbs play multiple times, Hes a horse on his team, but he sees himself as a Roll Player. (Refrence Darius Miller, about to get benched for Dodson, Miller has no emotion, and hes scared. This attitude holds him back). I would take Knipp for his attitude, a shooter/dunker/slasher.

Physical ability is not everything, a players desire to win, and to attitude to be the best player on the court has something to do with the show. Iroquois should have won the 6th last year, but Gibbs played his worst game of the year against the scary, much shorter but aggressive Ridge Wilson.

[kywldcat01]

So the mountain kids don't have any good players because TK players are rare in the mountains.

Where did I ever say TK wasn't any good because he plays in the mountains? Quit jumping to conclusions and implying things that aren't there. If you read my posts you'd see I said he was very gifted offensively but when he goes against better players he struggles and his weaknesses show, especially on defense.

You can say what you want about what I post but the numbers I provide back up my statements. It's not just a personal opinion.

Again, TK WILL PLAY D1. If he wants to play higher than a low-mid major though, he has a lot of improving to do.

[LeeCoUKFan]

Elijah Pittman and Ricardo Johnson both made the Sweet 16 all tourney team as sophomores.Go back and look at recent sweet 16 all tourney teams and you'll see that it's happened more often than you think.

And I did watch the Holmes/EC game...over and over again. Pittman posted Knipp up, took him off the dribble and dunked twice, and hit a few mid range jumpers with his hand in his face. Don't believe me? You can re-watch the game on either ihigh.com under the KY link or on the khsaa video page. Knipp was on Pittman more than you're thinking. Nobody else could match up with him.

As far as Knipp playing at a higher level than Pittman, that is probably correct but not because of talent, but rather Pittman doesn't have the grades to play D1 RIGHT NOW. Coach Cal, Bob Huggins, Mick Cronin, and the Oklahoma coach have all been on record though as saying they'd love to have Pittman and would offer him when he becomes eligible to play at a D1 program. Get your facts straight before you post something like that. All of the above coaches that I just listed have asked the JUCO's that they have close ties to, to recruit Pittman so they can sign him.




Congrats to TK on the offers, but none of those are exactly high profile programs. I have a relative who currently plays for The Citadel. And jsut because a kid is receiving interest from a school doesn't mean they're going to offer. Travis Ford recruits A LOT in Kentucky because of his ties to the state. I'm pretty sure Vinny Zollo already holds an offer from Mr. Ford, as does Jaylen Beckham in the sophomore class.

I didn't wanna bring this up, but let's not forget that Timmy is also a hold back. He should be a senior right now.



I don't know when the last time was that you saw Euton but that kid can stroke it from outside. He has been recruited the way he has because of his shooting ability. He must be better than you're giving him credit for considering as soon as he de-committed from UK, Oregon St, Oklahoma St, Akron, EKU, and Western all offered within two weeks.

As far as Gibbs, he doesn't have to be as aggressive as TK because he has another D1 prospect next to him in 6'5 Jermaine Jackson as well as several other good guards like Sam Tolliver. Knipp is relied on by his team to do a lot of scoring because they don't really have anyone else at Elliott Co to consistently score like Timmy.

You just named several different qualities about Gibbs that are better than Knipp but yet you'd take Knipp over Gibbs because Knipp tries to dunk over poeple? :thatsfunn Gibbs is a much better prospect because of his demeanor on the court, ability to play inside or outside, and the fact that he plays more within the team than TK does...all while also being more athletic and able to defend better.



1. NKU won't be D1 within the next year or two. It's in their TEN YEAR plan to be D1 though. They can't go D1 until all of their club teams (hockey in particular) become ceritfied through the NCAA. This will be atleast a 5 year process. They'll have a football team before they go D1. Basketball is the only D1 facility that they have. Soccer is next, then baseball, then a hockey facility, then football, then you'll see basketball and other sports go D1.

Again, dunking by smaller guards may be rare in EKY, but it happens all the time outside of the mountains. Look at what Arrez Henderson of Holmes did in the state tourney in 08. He was 6'1 at best.

Don't believe me though? Watch the Scott Co/Ballard game on wazoo and you'll see both Devante Parker (6'1) and Ian Chiles (6'1) throw it down in traffic. Parker has 2 or 3 dunks that game with 2 being alley oops. Find Jaylen Beckham on youtube and you'll see several dunks by him in traffic too.

Just because you don't see it in the mountains doesn't mean it doesn't happen in other areas around the state. There's two different sources above to prove my point.

Thanks for the info on NKU.

But, as far as these small guards dribbling through traffic and going up off one foot and throwing it down I still don't believe it until I see it so if you could please send me some links or something that would be appreciated!

Now as far as never seeing I wasn't just referring to the mountains i said you hardly ever see players that size doing it in college! I have seen my fair share of high school basketball which includes eastern and central kentucky as well as games in the Knoxville, TN area as well as games in the metro Boston, MA area and I have never seen a guard 5'10''-6'1'' throw it down in traffic! There's some pretty good talent in those areas and like i said before I'm not seeing these small guys fly up over 3 or 4 defenders.

[AshamedLCParent]

Obviously you have never heard or seen of Dontarius Pittman!

Who?:lmao:

[Benchwarmer]

[QUOTE=kywldcat01;954366]Where did I ever say TK wasn't any good because he plays in the mountains? Quit jumping to conclusions and implying things that aren't there. If you read my posts you'd see I said he was very gifted offensively but when he goes against better players he struggles and his weaknesses show, especially on defense.

You can say what you want about what I post but the numbers I provide back up my statements. It's not just a personal opinion.

Again, TK WILL PLAY D1. If he wants to play higher than a low-mid major though, he has a lot of improving to do.[/QUOTE]

Do you realize I just restated your comment?hh:

[kywldcat01]

Hold on, Jermaine Jackson is a stretch at 6'2", and he is not a D-1 prospect. At what level do you see him playing, Gibbs is playing at 6'7" and he is the best athlete in the 6th. Gibbs signed a LOI to play at IUPUI.....so where do you see Jackson playing, He's a 6'2" PF. He just can shoot the three ball is where his points come from.

I think you may be mistaking Jermaine for someone else. Idk when the last time was that you saw him but he is a legit 6'5. He is almost big as Gibbs and if you had saw them recently, you'd know this. And he also isn't known for his 3 point shot either. He is a banger down low that also has a nice mid range game and can step out and hit the occasional 3. Gibbs signed with IUPUI because of the opportunity to play right away. He had interest from other schools as well. As far as where Jackson will play, I could see him playing at a low major D1 program.

Timmy Knipps demeanor is exactly why I would take him over Gibbs. I watched Gibbs play multiple times, Hes a horse on his team, but he sees himself as a Roll Player. (Refrence Darius Miller, about to get benched for Dodson, Miller has no emotion, and hes scared. This attitude holds him back). I would take Knipp for his attitude, a shooter/dunker/slasher.

You're missing the point. Gibbs doesn't have to be as aggressive because he has a much better supporting cast. Therefor, he isn't reliied on to score the way Knipp is. Despite this though, he still averages close to a double doulbe at 16 ppg and 9 rpg. Credit Timmy for being the man on his team and carrying them but if you saw Gibbs play over the summer with Shining Stars, you'd see where I'm coming from. When Gibbs isn't playing within the "team concept" he is very tough t handle. He's as good as they come with his ability to take his man off the dribble, hit a jumpshot, or dominate down low with his size and athleticism. That attitude of Timmy's that you talk about though has also gotten him in trouble over the past two years on the court...much like Elijah Pittman his junior year.

Physical ability is not everything, a players desire to win, and to attitude to be the best player on the court has something to do with the show. Iroquois should have won the 6th last year, but Gibbs played his worst game of the year against the scary, much shorter but aggressive Ridge Wilson.

I don't know who you've been talking to, but physical ability is definetly something a coach looks at. Look at EJ for example. If the kid was 6'3 he'd have every coach in American after him. I do agree though that desire and attitude play a part in the recruiting process. Coaches want winners and kids who believe they can excell and win at any level whether on the court or in the classroom. And Ridge Wilson is a D1 athlete. He's currently playing football at UK right now and is a physical specimen so I don't see how you can fault Gibbs for not having one of his better games. Ridge Wilson also isn't much smaller. He is a legit 6'5 and absolutely rocked up.

[Benchwarmer]

This has turned into "why has Homes has better dunker's and players thread."

[kywldcat01]

This has turned into "why has Homes has better dunker's and players thread."

You do realize not one person in this thread, including myself, has mentioned a Holmes dunk right? I said one thing about Pittman dunking over Knipp last year twice and that was it. Not one time did I saw anyone had a better dunk or anything to that nature.

This whole second page has been about 6'0 and 6'1 guards who are dunking and doing the same things as Knipp at 6'7...while also discussing why Donovan Gibbs and several other players at Knipp's size are doing the same things as him and against better competition. This whole thread has been about Knipp and his ability to play D1: strengths/weaknesses.

Take off your blinders and realize not every thing I post is about Holmes or their players. Unlike yourself, I actually get out of my area and have a wide knowledge of players in other areas of the state. Sit back and take a second to think about what you're about to say next time.

[PC_You_Know]

You do realize not one person in this thread, including myself, has mentioned a Holmes dunk right? I said one thing about Pittman dunking over Knipp last year twice and that was it. Not one time did I saw anyone had a better dunk or anything to that nature.

This whole second page has been about 6'0 and 6'1 guards who are dunking and doing the same things as Knipp at 6'7...while also discussing why Donovan Gibbs and several other players at Knipp's size are doing the same things as him and against better competition. This whole thread has been about Knipp and his ability to play D1: strengths/weaknesses.

Take off your blinders and realize not every thing I post is about Holmes or their players. Unlike yourself, I actually get out of my area and have a wide knowledge of players in other areas of the state. Sit back and take a second to think about what you're about to say next time.

No you don't...you watch the games on the internet and on the tube.

[kywldcat01]

No you don't...you watch the games on the internet and on the tube.

Who are you to question who I have and haven't seen?

This year alone, I've been to the following parts of the state and seen the following KENTUCKY teams in person:

King of the Bluegrass @ Fairdale
Holmes, Ballard, Trinity, Clark Co, Seneca, Iroquois, Shelby County, Warren Central, Tates Creek, Eastern, Knott Co Central, Fairdale

US Bank Classic @ Mason Co
Deming, Greenup County, Mason Co, Holmes

Kentucky/Tennessee Shootout @ Warren Central:
Christian Co, Warren Central, Holmes

Lloyd Invitational
Campbell Co, Newport, Conner, North Laurel, Villa MAdonna, Pendleton Co, Bryan station, Deming, Bellevue

Other NKY teams I've seen in person:
Ryle, Dixie, Boone, Highlands, St. Henry, Covcath, Newcath, Holy Cross, Beechwood, Newport, Dayton

Teams I've watched on the internet/tv:
Shelby Valley, Scott Co, Lexington Christian, Bowling Green

Also saw Lexcath at the beginning of the season at Covcath.

Considering the amount of teams I've seen in person this year compared to the ones I've seen on the internet, you'd be wise to keep your comments to yourself next time considering you have no idea what you're talking about.

[PC_You_Know]

Who are you to question who I have and haven't seen?

This year alone, I've been to the following parts of the state and seen the following KENTUCKY teams:

King of the Bluegrass @ Fairdale
Holmes, Ballard, Trinity, Clark Co, Seneca, Iroquois, Shelby County, Warren Central, Tates Creek, Eastern, Knott Co Central, Fairdale

US Bank Classic @ Mason Co
Deming, Greenup County, Mason Co, Holmes

Kentucky/Tennessee Shootout @ Warren Central:
Christian Co, Warren Central, Holmes

Lloyd Invitational
Campbell Co, Newport, Conner, North Laurel, Villa MAdonna, Pendleton Co, Bryan station, Deming, Bellevue

NKY teams I've seen in person:
Ryle, Dixie, Boone, Highlands, St. Henry, Covcath, Newcath, Holy Cross, Beechwood, Newport, Dayton

Teams I've watched on the internet/tv:
Shelby Valley, Scott Co, Lexington Christian, Bowling Green

Also saw Lexcath at the beginning of the season at Covcath.

Considering the amount of teams I've seen in person this year compared to the ones I've seen on the internet, you'd be wise to keep your comments to yourself next time considering you have no idea what you're talking about.

Lol, you're always right. You're seriously the most arrogant person on this board. You've not been wrong one time on this site yet. Even when you might be wrong, there's some reason outside of your control that keeps you from being wrong.

And here's what wrong with EVERYTHING you deal with on this site. You deal with Valley a LOT, but you haven't seen them live one time this year...you sir are the one who has no idea what you're talking about. Please, quit contradicting yourself, you do it quite too much on here.

[kywldcat01]

Lol, you're always right. You're seriously the most arrogant person on this board. You've not been wrong one time on this site yet. Even when you might be wrong, there's some reason outside of your control that keeps you from being wrong.

And here's what wrong with EVERYTHING you deal with on this site. You deal with Valley a LOT, but you haven't seen them live one time this year...you sir are the one who has no idea what you're talking about. Please, quit contradicting yourself, you do it quite too much on here.

I'm not arrogant at all. I simply state my opinion and a lot of you don't like it because it goes against what you think. And trust me, I've been wrong plenty of times and stated it.

And I don't deal with Valley as much as you say. Matter of fact, this thread is about Elliott Co's Timmy Knipp so why are you even bringing up Valley? I didn't. And the fact that I haven't seen them live has nothing to do with anything. Watching them on tv/internet is doing the same thing that some of the Valley fans do when they comment on a SV game so how are they right, but my opinion is criticized because I didn't see them in person? come on dude, you're contradicting yourself there because you've watched them on the net plenty of times. There's no difference...I see the same things as someone in person does.

BTW, didn't you say after the SV/EC game last year that you could care less about Valley since you are no longer affiliated with them? For some one who doesn't care, you sure do get awful defensive and try to turn many threads in to SVJustice threads. hh:

Oh and before you say I like to bash Justice or SV, see one of my recent posts in this thread. You'll see that I say if Justice was 6'3 , every coach in America would be after him.

Come better next time junior. Your nit-picking is getting old.

[PC_You_Know]

And please, don't say "You don't have to see someone live to judge them". If not, then college coaches could just sit there in their offices all day and watch numerous amounts of tape. But that's not what happens is it? They go to the games and watch the kids play. And no, like you're going to say, it's not to talk to the kids and that's it, if it was, they could just video conference with them or something along those lines.

[PC_You_Know]

I'm not arrogant at all. I simply state my opinion and a lot of you don't like it because it goes against what you think. And trust me, I've been wrong plenty of times and stated it.

And I don't deal with Valley as much as you say. Matter of fact, this thread is about Elliott Co's Timmy Knipp so why are you even bringing up Valley? I didn't. And the fact that I haven't seen them live has nothing to do with anything. Watching them on tv/internet is doing the same thing that some of the Valley fans do when they comment on a SV game so how are they right, but my opinion is criticized because I didn't see them in person? come on dude, you're contradicting yourself there because you've watched them on the net plenty of times. There's no difference...I see the same things as someone in person does.

BTW, didn't you say after the SV/EC game last year that you could care less about Valley since you are no longer affiliated with them? For some one who doesn't care, you sure do get awful defensive and try to turn many threads in to SVJustice threads. hh:

Oh and before you say I like to bash Justice or SV, see one of my recent posts in this thread. You'll see that I say if Justice was 6'3 , every coach in America would be after him.

Come better next time junior. Your nit-picking is getting old.

Told you that you would say something like that. Predictable.

Dude, the "why did you have to bring up Valley" thing is getting old, you've transformed so many threads into Holmes' praising it's sickening. CONTRADICTING.

Someone's gotta defend Valley on here. Everyone else is too scared to because they don't want to be banned. You just add fire to the flames, I was done with it all once "letthebighogroot" got over SV/EC, but here came you after we all thought it was over with.

And honestly, the only reason you're allowed to rant like this and get away with it is because Stardust backs you like no other.

[PC_You_Know]

Wow, look at this, before kywildcat01 came along, I actually showed praise for Holmes.

[ame="http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55949"]Holmes ranked #26 on Rivals 100 - Kentucky Sports Forum - BlueGrassRivals[/ame]

kywildcat, you try to knock me so much, but you really just don't have a clue.

[kywldcat01]

And please, don't say "You don't have to see someone live to judge them". If not, then college coaches could just sit there in their offices all day and watch numerous amounts of tape. But that's not what happens is it? They go to the games and watch the kids play. And no, like you're going to say, it's not to talk to the kids and that's it, if it was, they could just video conference with them or something along those lines.

Actually, college coahces show up to see a kid so they're aware that the coach is interested and cares by being there.More often than not, a head coach has an assistant there with him to take notes and the head coach just enjoys the game.

After the game however, the coach will get film and go back and rewatch it over and over because it's easier to evaluate through film than in person considering you can rewind, pause, fastforward, etc to break down plays.

Despite what you think, I'm very familiar with the recruiting scene. I've personally went through the recruitment process at the D1 level and also have spoke to several college basketball coaches over the years, most notably Bob Huggins, Mick Cronin, Tom Crean, and Rick Pitino at this past summer's Adidas It Takes Five tourney.