[uhavenoidea]

SV will play the Region 1 winner.

Which will more than likely be Heath(14-4) or Carlisle County(12-3).

Carlisle County, has a tremendous player, by the name of Caleb Hardy.

-6'5
-29.5ppg
-163/248 from the field, for 65.7%
-Attempted 189 FT's already (About 12 per game)
-193 rebounds (12.9 per game)
-Scored 45pts and grabbed 23 rebounds for good measure, against Reidland.
-Scored 39pts and had 25 rebounds, against Mayfield.
-Scored 36pts and had 10 rebounds, against Daviess Co.
-Scored 28pts and had 16 rebounds against Paducah Christian.
-Scored 25pts and had 14 rebounds against Hickman County.
-Scored 30pts and had 19 rebounds against Fulton City.

http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/kh...ts_31020_0

Nice Article on the young man. As his recruitment is starting to get heavy and intense.

http://www.allkyhoops.com/search?q=caleb+hardy

[Legendary]

Valley wins there game and the All A.

[mister... basketball]

ahh you cant tell anybody around here anything. according to people in the mountains shelby valley is untouchable. i was also wondering, does elisha have teammates? because i sure havent heard about any of them and also on the khsaa website it looks like hes the only one that scores if u look at the stats because hes the only one thats listed. check out this link:

http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/kh...ts_31196_0

[5timechamp]

Im sure SV players know they will face good teams and good players in the All A tourney in Richmond. I cant believe you found such mind blowing info. :flush:

[Creeker]

Cool... nice article about the Hardy kid. I like his height and his numbers speak for their self.

[Wall4president]

They will have a very tough time winning the All A this year!

[uhavenoidea]

Im sure SV players know they will face good teams and good players in the All A tourney in Richmond. I cant believe you found such mind blowing info. :flush:

Well yeah, the teams wouldn't be there unless they were good.


Just thought everyone would like to know such things. No need in getting all defensive about it, must have hit a nerve or assumed I said Valley would lose.

[The King]

No need in getting all defensive about it, must have hit a nerve or assumed I said Valley would lose.

I think your thread title is just strange... same as if you had said, Heath, In trouble 1st Round of State All "A"? or Carlisle County, In trouble 1st Round of State All "A"?...

[uhavenoidea]

I think your thread title is just strange... same as if you had said, Heath, In trouble 1st Round of State All "A"? or Carlisle County, In trouble 1st Round of State All "A"?...

Neither of those teams are ranked Top 10 in the state, nor have a potential Mr. Basketball according to others/media, although Hardy is a special player.

Sounds like your getting pretty defensive about it. Maybe, you think they could be in trouble, otherwise you wouldn't be so quick to jump the gun.

[5timechamp]

Uhavenoidea who they will play so wait until the full bracket comes out and then pick against them. Premature or immature? Ihavenoidea :moon:

[uhavenoidea]

Uhavenoidea who they will play so wait until the full bracket comes out and then pick against them. Premature or immature? Ihavenoidea :moon:

It's who will they play? Let's wait until the final bracket comes out and then pick the winner.

I didn't pick against them, nor did I pick them.

I just thought it would be something everyoe would like to talk about. Not something everyone from Valley would get mad about.

Valley has the potential to bring home another title. I didn't say theyy would or wouldn't.

[cardinal]

This game is sure to be an interesting one. Good luck to both teams!

[no drama mama]

Just curious....how can the great SHELBY VALLEY be All A state champs when they are to 2A school? The All A tournament would be really great if they weren't invited to the party. Someone please explain!

[BlackcatAlum]

Like I said in another thread, Valley plays team ball about as good as anyone. They've been playing together since they were kids, so they know everything there is to know about each others game.

[DortonWildcat5]

Just curious....how can the great SHELBY VALLEY be All A state champs when they are to 2A school? The All A tournament would be really great if they weren't invited to the party. Someone please explain!

That has been explained numerous times on here. They are 2A for football. There are no classes in basketball. The tournament sets the numbers for school who are allowed to participate. There are usually bigger schools than SV playing in the All "A".

[DortonWildcat5]

ahh you cant tell anybody around here anything. according to people in the mountains shelby valley is untouchable. i was also wondering, does elisha have teammates? because i sure havent heard about any of them and also on the khsaa website it looks like hes the only one that scores if u look at the stats because hes the only one thats listed. check out this link:

http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/kh...ts_31196_0

There are several teams in this tournament who could win it. SV just happens to be the highest ranked of them. I'm sure they know they can be beat down there. If they were half as cocky as people on here thought, they wouldn't be as good a team as they are.

[BlackcatAlum]

I'm not pointing fingers, but I don't know why everyone continues to get so upset when someone expresses their opinion on a player or team. In this case its Elisha Justice and his team Shelby Valley. Now I know some of the SV fans blow a lot of smoke, but its mostly the kids doing. There's nothing wrong with it at all, but you never see the wiser SV fans on here saying anything about Valley being #1 or winning the Sweet 16. Another thing is when someone says that Elisha Justice is basically flawless. I don't think that their is one member on this site that can show where anyone thinks he's this god like figure or does no wrong, because believe it or not he's human and a teenager. He's probably the best player we've seen in EKY since OJ Mayo & Bill Walker. Now I'm in no-way-shape-or-form comparing him to those two players. But he's the most talented player we've seen since those two played for Rose Hill and I think most of us can agree with that.

Now we all know anyone can lose on any given night. Heck, Lexington Christian knocked off Scott County just the other week and I don't think anyone predicted that outcome. It doesn't mean that SC is overrated or LCA is underrated. Its just the simple fact that anyone can lose on any given night. Point I'm really trying to make is that everyone gets so worked up over someone's opinion. If you're bashing a player or team then I'd understand someone getting upset, but when someone says something that you believe is almost unreal doesn't mean that you should just blast that particular person because they were only expressing their opinion.

Again, I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone or trying to get anyone worked up.

[Stardust]

I'm not pointing fingers, but I don't know why everyone continues to get so upset when someone expresses their opinion on a player or team. In this case its Elisha Justice and his team Shelby Valley. Now I know some of the SV fans blow a lot of smoke, but its mostly the kids doing. There's nothing wrong with it at all, but you never see the wiser SV fans on here saying anything about Valley being #1 or winning the Sweet 16. Another thing is when someone says that Elisha Justice is basically flawless. I don't think that their is one member on this site that can show where anyone thinks he's this god like figure or does no wrong, because believe it or not he's human and a teenager. He's probably the best player we've seen in EKY since OJ Mayo & Bill Walker. Now I'm in no-way-shape-or-form comparing him to those two players. But he's the most talented player we've seen since those two played for Rose Hill and I think most of us can agree with that.

Now we all know anyone can lose on any given night. Heck, Lexington Christian knocked off Scott County just the other week and I don't think anyone predicted that outcome. It doesn't mean that SC is overrated or LCA is underrated. Its just the simple fact that anyone can lose on any given night. Point I'm really trying to make is that everyone gets so worked up over someone's opinion. If you're bashing a player or team then I'd understand someone getting upset, but when someone says something that you believe is almost unreal doesn't mean that you should just blast that particular person because they were only expressing their opinion.

Again, I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone or trying to get anyone worked up.

Great post BCA. I have no dog in this fight, but your comments are well intended. Too often we have extremes that want to knock a player and then the otherside of the argument wants to defend, thus make their player sound better than he really is.

I see it happen more with schools than I do with players. I see way too often where the arguments go way overboard when discussing the rivalries between schools and everyone wants to knock the other side of the argument. There is a lot of knocking a team only for selfish purposes instead of constructive debate.

[BlackcatAlum]

Great post BCA. I have no dog in this fight, but your comments are well intended. Too often we have extremes that want to knock a player and then the otherside of the argument wants to defend, thus make their player sound better than he really is.

I see it happen more with schools than I do with players. I see way too often where the arguments go way overboard when discussing the rivalries between schools and everyone wants to knock the other side of the argument. There is a lot of knocking a team only for selfish purposes instead of constructive debate.

:Thumbs:

Exactly my friend.

[kywldcat01]

Valley won't be tested until they meet either the 9th or 10th region winner in the finals.

I'm saying the final will be one of the two:

Shelby Valley v Brossart
Shelby Valley v Newport

[Scotty doesn't know]

I dont know why people have to bring the size of the school into question. The comment that the tourney would be better with out a team like Valley... I mean come on, that does not belong here. The All A tourney gives a fair shot for kids in small schools (which usually do not have the same type of athletes as bigger schools-have more students to pick from), and lets them compete on a statewide stage. Valley would not be playing if the school was not of appropriate enrollment for the "A" status.

[The King]

Sounds like your getting pretty defensive about it. Maybe, you think they could be in trouble, otherwise you wouldn't be so quick to jump the gun.

Not getting defensive... just pointing out the stupidity of your thread title. I don't disagree that SV could have their hands full with alot of teams in the tournament...

[PC_You_Know]

Not getting defensive... just pointing out the stupidity of your thread title. I don't disagree that SV could have their hands full with alot of teams in the tournament...

You're absolutely right in your disagreement with the title.

[Colonel Kill]

I dont know why people have to bring the size of the school into question. The comment that the tourney would be better with out a team like Valley... I mean come on, that does not belong here. The All A tourney gives a fair shot for kids in small schools (which usually do not have the same type of athletes as bigger schools-have more students to pick from), and lets them compete on a statewide stage. Valley would not be playing if the school was not of appropriate enrollment for the "A" status.

Good post. I agree the All A gives some small schools a chance to compete on a big stage. The teams that represent their region in Richmond usually have no or little chance at doing the same come March in Rupp. It just happens that the 15th region is mad up of mostly smaller schools so the chance is greater that the same team wins both. The All A classification is not the same as what the KHSAA sets for football. Just about every team in the 15th has played in the All A except JC, Belfry & Pike Central. I am not a die hard Valley fan but do think they are a very good team and I support any team that represents our region in any tourny. I think Valley has a great shot at winning it all and will be a tough out for any team. I also think there are going to be a few teams that Valley will have a hard time putting out. Competition, that is why I love going to this tournament every year.

[cardinal]

Agree with you on that one: we should support any school representing our region or area.

I am a graduate from a Pike County school, and I remember just a few years ago when Belfry won their state title in football. Of course some people were not supportive of the Pirate's victory, but I was proud that a team from Pike County had accomplished something that amazing, even though I didn't go there.

[Panther Thunder]

Consolidation allows bigger schools to compete in the All "A". It is or used to be something like the "X Smallest schools" With consolidation, that eliminates 3-4 small schools, so a bigger school drops into the category. The only solution would be to make "X" a smaller number.

[Lleyton21]

They will have a very tough time winning the All A this year!

as if it were a cake walk last year. whichever team wins it will have a tough time. there are so many factors that play into competing in a tourney like this, not the least of which is winning 4 games in 4 consecutive days.

[Legendary]

ahh you cant tell anybody around here anything. according to people in the mountains shelby valley is untouchable. i was also wondering, does elisha have teammates? because i sure havent heard about any of them and also on the khsaa website it looks like hes the only one that scores if u look at the stats because hes the only one thats listed. check out this link:

http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/kh...ts_31196_0

Of course he does. and that is why they re winning the All A

[ky wildcats]

Has the 15th all-a already played or is VALLEY just been given the 15th trophey before its finished

[Scotty doesn't know]

Good post. I agree the All A gives some small schools a chance to compete on a big stage. The teams that represent their region in Richmond usually have no or little chance at doing the same come March in Rupp. It just happens that the 15th region is mad up of mostly smaller schools so the chance is greater that the same team wins both. The All A classification is not the same as what the KHSAA sets for football. Just about every team in the 15th has played in the All A except JC, Belfry & Pike Central. I am not a die hard Valley fan but do think they are a very good team and I support any team that represents our region in any tourny. I think Valley has a great shot at winning it all and will be a tough out for any team. I also think there are going to be a few teams that Valley will have a hard time putting out. Competition, that is why I love going to this tournament every year.

Thank you. I completely agree and I am the same way about the mountain teams. It is just a different skill set.