Madison Central

STATE CHAMP · 12-19-2009, 06:34 PM

Thunder Lips Wrote:Out of these names, I'll agree with kymom. Bert Browne gets the job over this group easily.

No disrespect to Browne but what makes him so special. His 4 year record at Perry Central is 20-23. He may be a great coach.. IDK? Oliver Lucas has a 21-22 record is his 4 yrs at Station is he not qualified? Three of the five coaches mentioned have college coaching experience. I know that is a BIG deal in Richmond.. Give all these coaches a shot at the job....

Thunder Lips · 12-19-2009, 08:45 PM

STATE CHAMP Wrote:No disrespect to Browne but what makes him so special. His 4 year record at Perry Central is 20-23. He may be a great coach.. IDK? Oliver Lucas has a 21-22 record is his 4 yrs at Station is he not qualified? Three of the five coaches mentioned have college coaching experience. I know that is a BIG deal in Richmond.. Give all these coaches a shot at the job....

You obviously do not know the background of Browne or the deep ties he has at Madison Central and Richmond in general. It is Browne's job to lose IMO.

College coaching experience will have no bearing whatsoever on who is hired. There are a lot of bad coaches in college that get hired in a high school and fail miserably. It has happend at both Central and Southern in Madison County.

KYcoalminer · 12-19-2009, 09:04 PM

I would have to agree, just because you coach college, doesnt make you a great coach in college or high school.

**Strikeout King** · 12-30-2009, 10:08 PM

according to KHSAA the application deadline is January 4th.

Xerxes · 12-31-2009, 12:48 PM

Thunder Lips Wrote:You obviously do not know the background of Browne or the deep ties he has at Madison Central and Richmond in general. It is Browne's job to lose IMO.

College coaching experience will have no bearing whatsoever on who is hired. There are a lot of bad coaches in college that get hired in a high school and fail miserably. It has happend at both Central and Southern in Madison County.

I thought Madison Central may be looking for a good coach, not a good old boy. By that I mean just because he has ties and background there doesn't make him a good coach. I would expect more from them.

JMEWLS · 12-31-2009, 03:43 PM

You people are acting like Bert is a terrible coach, well, he isn't. Is he the most likeable person in the world? No. But this guy knows the game, and most of his players like playing for him. He coaches an exciting brand of football and brings experience from the college level, and also some of the best high schools in the nation (LaGrange, Georgia). Bert is the hardest working football coach in southeastern Kentucky, and I think Madison Central would be lucky to get a guy like him.

ball4life · 12-31-2009, 04:20 PM

JMEWLS Wrote:You people are acting like Bert is a terrible coach, well, he isn't. Is he the most likeable person in the world? No. But this guy knows the game, and most of his players like playing for him. He coaches an exciting brand of football and brings experience from the college level, and also some of the best high schools in the nation (LaGrange, Georgia). Bert is the hardest working football coach in southeastern Kentucky, and I think Madison Central would be lucky to get a guy like him.

:worthy: I agree and believe that Browne will get the job. When will they make the announcement? I wonder what Perry Central will do? They have a lot of young talent in their sophomore and freshmen. It will be interesting. Tongue

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**Strikeout King** · 12-31-2009, 04:24 PM

ball4life Wrote::worthy: I agree and believe that Browne will get the job. When will they make the announcement? I wonder what Perry Central will do? They have a lot of young talent in their sophomore and freshmen. It will be interesting.irateSho

Browne will do a fine job at Cenral. don't know when the announcement will come out but the deadline for all applications is January 4th

JMEWLS · 12-31-2009, 05:21 PM

If I was Perry, I would hire Chuck Fugate, the OC at Hazard. I know Chuck pretty well, and I think he would be a great fit at Perry.

Jackson05 · 12-31-2009, 08:25 PM

Strikeout King Wrote:Browne will do a fine job at Cenral. don't know when the announcement will come out but the deadline for all applications is January 4th

How is a guy that went 7-4 and finished 3rd in his district considered a shoe-in? They didn't beat a team with a winning record all year (unless it's the team from WV, but judging by the score of that game, I doubt it). Not trying to be a downer, but what is so impressive?

KYcoalminer · 12-31-2009, 08:43 PM

I guess because he has "college experience" at a no name college that would let a lot of people coach for 3,000 a year. Also coached at Lagrange High School? If so, who cares if he coached there, they have like 10 D-1 recruits every year. That doesnt make him a great coach.

Jackson05 · 01-01-2010, 12:04 PM

What college was it?

KYcoalminer · 01-01-2010, 12:14 PM

East or West Georgia, Maybe, can't remember.

STATE CHAMP · 01-01-2010, 03:01 PM

KYcoalminer Wrote:I guess because he has "college experience" at a no name college that would let a lot of people coach for 3,000 a year. Also coached at Lagrange High School? If so, who cares if he coached there, they have like 10 D-1 recruits every year. That doesnt make him a great coach.

There is a lot of great coaches out there wanting this job. "Lets hope that none of the other applicants have been assistants at the college level and have coached at great HS programs and won a few at no name high school in KY". The "good ol boy" Bert Browne may WIN this polital race. However, it is a valuable asset to parents to have someone that you know coaching the kids so you can help tell him what he should do from the stands.:thatsfunn

nopainnogain · 01-01-2010, 03:49 PM

Browne is all about "what Browne done" not what the kids he's coaching can possibly do. Everyone who's played for him knows this. His practices consist of 3/4 listening endlessly to things "HE" did but never what "the boys" need to do. But you are right, the political scene will win this and the political scene will rule what goes on at this facility just like it did at the "NO NAME Mountain School" he left and then came back to only to leave again. He had the talent to go much farther and win more games than he did but refused to listen to his coaches or use the talent he had.

Jackson05 · 01-01-2010, 05:21 PM

East and West Georgia aren't even a big deal in Georgia, so I don't know why they would be thought of as good jobs.

warmachine · 01-01-2010, 11:52 PM

Bert Browne has done a remarkable job at a BASKETBALL SCHOOL. The best ATHLETES in the school dont even play football. He had a winning record and was almost able to win every game this year except for the game against Whitley County. Perry got beat in a close one to Harlan County, had Letcher Central Beat, and almost beat Final Four contestant Pulaski County. Bert Browne flat out knows the game of football and he is a great guy as well. And anywhere you go in Georgia, football is a BIG DEAL. If Madison Central dont hire Browne then they are a bunch of fools.

Jackson05 · 01-02-2010, 12:33 AM

warmachine Wrote:Bert Browne has done a remarkable job at a BASKETBALL SCHOOL. The best ATHLETES in the school dont even play football. He had a winning record and was almost able to win every game this year except for the game against Whitley County. Perry got beat in a close one to Harlan County, had Letcher Central Beat, and almost beat Final Four contestant Pulaski County. Bert Browne flat out knows the game of football and he is a great guy as well. And anywhere you go in Georgia, football is a BIG DEAL. If Madison Central dont hire Browne then they are a bunch of fools.

I didn't say football wasn't a big deal...just not at East and West Georgia. You can find many high school coaches in Georgia that could coach at that level or better. Not to say Mr. Browne isn't a good coach, but his time as a college coach shouldn't be held in the highest regard.

JMEWLS · 01-02-2010, 03:17 PM

warmachine Wrote:Bert Browne has done a remarkable job at a BASKETBALL SCHOOL. The best ATHLETES in the school dont even play football. He had a winning record and was almost able to win every game this year except for the game against Whitley County. Perry got beat in a close one to Harlan County, had Letcher Central Beat, and almost beat Final Four contestant Pulaski County. Bert Browne flat out knows the game of football and he is a great guy as well. And anywhere you go in Georgia, football is a BIG DEAL. If Madison Central dont hire Browne then they are a bunch of fools.

:rockon:

Jumper Dad · 01-02-2010, 09:01 PM

STATE CHAMP Wrote:Bert Browne- Perry Co Central HC
Jay Cobb- Former Somerset coach walked out on his team
Oliver Lucas- Former Bryan Station Coach
ShaDon Brown- Rowan County HC
Johnny Poynter- Bourbon County HC

These names are the only ones that I have heard around town.

Jay Cobb didn't walk out on his team the way you say it. Jay had issues with the Admin and thought the only way the team would get the support it needed is if he "Fell on the sword" for the team. He knew the team was preparred and ready for the season when he left. Very very few parents or players resented what he did at the time. He had the support of nearly every single person that mattered to this team....the players, the coaches and the parents.

FYI don't be surprised if the new coach up there is from the Somerset / Pulaski area.....Supt Floyd is from Somerset and knows all of the local coaches very well.

ball4life · 01-03-2010, 01:28 AM

The way "people" were talking at the PCC/Buckhorn game tonight Browne's already making moving plans and pretty confident he'll get this position. Sounds like PCC will be looking for yet "another" football coach which is sad because they have a lot of talented freshmen and sophomores. Hope this doesn't cause a lot of discouragement amongst the players.

Thunder Lips · 01-03-2010, 12:37 PM

Jackson05 Wrote:How is a guy that went 7-4 and finished 3rd in his district considered a shoe-in? They didn't beat a team with a winning record all year (unless it's the team from WV, but judging by the score of that game, I doubt it). Not trying to be a downer, but what is so impressive?

Perry Central has had a football team since 1995 (15 seasons) and they've only had 3 winning seasons...all led be Bert Browne.

I don't know if Browne will get the Madison Central job or not, but anyone that doesn't think he is one of the top 2 or 3 candidates is sadly mistaken. Assistants from Bell Co., head coaches from Pulaski/Somerset, head coaches from Rowan, Lexington schools, and Bourbon Co. are all fighting an uphill battle against Browne.

**nky** · 01-03-2010, 09:21 PM

Thunder Lips Wrote:Perry Central has had a football team since 1995 (15 seasons) and they've only had 3 winning seasons...all led be Bert Browne.

I don't know if Browne will get the Madison Central job or not, but anyone that doesn't think he is one of the top 2 or 3 candidates is sadly mistaken. Assistants from Bell Co., head coaches from Pulaski/Somerset, head coaches from Rowan, Lexington schools, and Bourbon Co. are all fighting an uphill battle against Browne.

I'm I reading this right? He's only had 3 winning seasons in 15 years?and he hasn't been fired yet?

Harry Doyle · 01-03-2010, 09:35 PM

nky Wrote:I'm I reading this right? He's only had 3 winning seasons in 15 years?and he hasn't been fired yet?

He hasn't always been the coach at Perry Central. Central has had a few.

**nky** · 01-03-2010, 09:36 PM

Harry Doyle Wrote:He hasn't always been the coach at Perry Central. Central has had a few.

oh I see

RoShamBo · 01-04-2010, 12:19 PM

Isn't Tommy Floyd, the former principal at Somerset and former Somerset football player, the current Super for the Madison County School District? If so I definitely could see Cobb getting the job, Floyd always seemed to be a big fan of Coach Cobb's and what he did with the football program while Floyd was principal at Somerset. Whether Cobb would take the job is another story.

**Strikeout King** · 01-04-2010, 03:21 PM

RoShamBo Wrote:Isn't Tommy Floyd, the former principal at Somerset and former Somerset football player, the current Super for the Madison County School District? If so I definitely could see Cobb getting the job, Floyd always seemed to be a big fan of Coach Cobb's and what he did with the football program while Floyd was principal at Somerset. Whether Cobb would take the job is another story.

you are correct.

William Muney · 01-05-2010, 11:28 AM

It amazes me that Browne is being considered the favorite for this job. He is not a very good coach. I have seen his teams play many times over the years during his two stints with PCC and they have never looked like a "WELL COACHED TEAM." Their special teams and defense are HORRIBLE. They do move the ball some on offense but seem to struggle against the good teams.

Jackson05 · 01-05-2010, 01:13 PM

As evidenced by the fact that he beat 7 teams with losing records this year and that's supposed to be a big accomplishment.

warmachine · 01-05-2010, 03:49 PM

Well lets take a look and see what Bert Browne has done.

Aug 28, 09 Casey County home 57 - 0 (W) Teco Coal Commodore Bowl
* This was a good first opponent for a basketball school like Perry.

Sep 4, 09 Knott County Central away 57 - 6 (W) Knott was probably a little bit better than Casey. Two basketball powers clashing here. Perry is evidently a lot more well rounded than Knott Central. Browne has about the same set up as Knott Central. Beder has coached Hazard and Leslie County when Tim Couch played. Looks like Bert proved to be the better of the two coaches.

Sep 11, 09 Breathitt County away 37 - 14 (W) Everyone forgot about this win didnt they? Breathitt almost beat state runner-up Somerset. Perry handed them a butt whipping. The same Breathitt team beat HAZARD without Channing Fugate playing. I guess Bert cant coach huh?
Sep 18, 09 Logan, WV home 50 - 18 (W) Black Gold Bowl - Good oppenent for Perry. Perry didnt know much about them and wore them out.

Sep 25, 09 Letcher County Central away 32 - 35 (L) Bert Browne versus a school with a head coach making near $100,000 a year along with 7 very high paid assistant coaches. Bert is the only football coach at Perry Central. Perry had a shot to win but didnt. Would MC Napier of beaten LCC back when Bill Dixon coached???? **** NO!!!!!!!!!!! He wouldnt of even played a Hillard Howard coached team would have he NAVAJO4LIFE?????

Oct 2, 09 North Laurel away 20 - 14 (W) Once again went on the road and beat a team that pays their staff a ton of money to coach and have top notch facities. North Laurel had a heck of team as well. May of had a losing record but they were pretty darn good.

Oct 9, 09 Clay County home 14 - 0 (W) What other coach besides Bert Browne in PERRY COUNTY history has beaten Clay County not once BUT TWICE? Nobody!

Oct 16, 09 Harlan County away 14 - 15 (L) Once again lost a nail biter to a school that forks out a ton of funding to their coaches and will be a major football school if Larkey stays around. Perry should of won. Browne cant run it and throw it for them.

Oct 23, 09 Whitley County home 18 - 63 (L) All I got to say here is that Perry Central had some sick kids and a bunch of guys out. They didnt want to play and it showed. Might as well say they went through the motions and got it laid on them. I dont think it would of mattered if Bob Stoopes coached Perry that night.

Oct 30, 09 Leslie County home 53 - 16 (W) Good win for Perry againt a school with more football tradition and better facilities than Perry. Not sure if they put much money into the program though but Perry wore them out.

Nov 6, 09 Pulaski County away 21 - 35 (L) Class 5A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl - Pulaski County made it to the Final 4 of class 5A only to lose to the NUMBER 3 team in the Nation if Fort Thomas Highlands. Perry played right with Pulaski County and didnt get the breaks they needed to win.

Is Bert Browne a good coach?????????????????? Lets see what else we can dig up????