[BluegrassBuckeye]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/ne...&type=lgns

[BloodyHarlanVOL]

You guys are missing one point. Boise has an open challenge to go on the road and play any team in the country in 2011. They are not asking for a return game. There goes the money argument. Boise is the real deal and has been for some time. They dismantled Alabama last year and nobody wants a piece of that.

Boise didn't even play Alabama last year. That was Utah. So there goes that argument too.

[LeeCoUKFan]

Did you not read my post! Schedules are SET! The earliest this would get on anyones schedule would be THREE YEARS!

They've gone 44-4 in so far in 4 seasons. So that tells me that they can recruit good enough players to be good every year. IMO they're not gonna be like Hawaii. Boise State is the equivalent of Memphis in basketball!

[NYY10]

I would like to see them play with USC,

[BigBlueBobcatFan]

thank you BluegrassBuckeye for finding that story I couldnt remember where i read it thanks

[GRIFFIN]

Breathitt County would demolish Notre Dame

:lmao:

[LeeCoUKFan]

^I don't know about Breathitt but i bet that Highlands could give them a game!

[BigBlueBobcatFan]

Oh yeah Highlands or St. X would give them a go of it lol

[LeeCoUKFan]

Oh yeah Highlands or St. X would give them a go of it lol

Haha, I bet ESPN would offer to televise either of those games too!

[Panther Thunder]

thats true i never looked at it like that because some conference schools like florida, alabama and even USC has deals with smaller schools as part of a home and home deal because it brings in alot of money for the smaller schools and then you have the in state battles when people step out of conference
examples:
Florida-Florida state
Georgia-Georgia tech
USC-Notre Dame every year

I don't feel like looking up the exact numbers, but Florida has played one non-conference game outside of Florida since about 1990 and they lost and haven't played out of Fla since.

[BigBlueBobcatFan]

I don't feel like looking up the exact numbers, but Florida has played one non-conference game outside of Florida since about 1990 and they lost and haven't played out of Fla since

they would be scared to welcome in a Boise State team IMO i just said that cause i hate florida

[BloodyHarlanVOL]

Lane Kiffin was asked about playing Boise St. on his show Sunday.. He said he wants to keep playing quality out of conference opponents, which is obvious with the teams we've been playing and are signed to play in the near future. However, he said he wants to play in states where UT recruits. He said he has no plans of going to Idaho anytime soon. I'd say he's not the only coach out there who looks at it like that.

[OrangenowBlue]

Lane Kiffin was asked about playing Boise St. on his show Sunday.. He said he wants to keep playing quality out of conference opponents, which is obvious with the teams we've been playing and are signed to play in the near future. However, he said he wants to play in states where UT recruits. He said he has no plans of going to Idaho anytime soon. I'd say he's not the only coach out there who looks at it like that.

Why doesn't he play them in Knoxville. It is stated throughout this post and on the internet that Boise State stated they would travel to play the good teams without them having to return the favor.

[BigBlueBobcatFan]

Maybe some people in the sports world is not grasping the fact that they can play them at there house and dont have to return the favor the next year

[BloodyHarlanVOL]

Why doesn't he play them in Knoxville. It is stated throughout this post and on the internet that Boise State stated they would travel to play the good teams without them having to return the favor.

Not sure.. I was just sharing his thoughts. Honestly, I think the only chance Boise would have against a good team would be to play them on the blue turf or a neutral site, examples being Oregon this year and Oklahoma in their bowl game. Their performance at Georgia a few years ago kinda backs up why I don't think they can go into a hostile environment and win, but thats really all I can base that on. Before its all over though, I think someone out there will take the bait and will play them. Just not sure who.

[Playboy5]

This is nothing new. The Mid-Majors have been calling out the bigger schools forever.

But look what you put in your thread - "extended invitations to some big time schools for them to come play them on the blue turf". What MAJOR school in their right mind would give up a home game where they make $5-10M to go to BSU and get what - $150-250K. This is business. BSU, Utah, Hawaii -all these schools have thrown out the "I can't get the big schools to play me". That's BS, the big schools will play these teams, but the Big schools are not going to give away MILLIONS of dollars just to help the little school get some recognition. That's not being scared by the big school, that's not being STUPID! BSU was lucky and got Oregon to play them on their turf this year - know why - ESPN gave Oregon $3M to play on Thursday night to kick-off the season. That game was scheduled 2 years ago.

When the Mid-Majors can fill 100K stadium and offer teams $3M+ to come to their house to play, then teams will come there to play. Instead, Boise has a 50K stadium that grosses about $1M total per game, thus if Boise wants to play with the Big boys, then they will have to Travel - but that my friend is not what these schools want.

So, with that said, where would I like to see Boise TRAVEL too:

SEC: Florida, Bama, LSU - see what speed is all about

Big 10: Penn St., OSU - See what power is all about

Big 12: Texas, Oklahoma (OK had no motivation 2 years ago after they were snubbed in their BCS game, thus they didn't care in the Bowl game) - let BSU play a game that means something during the season.

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My God, you nailed that right on the head in every aspect! I just wish Boise would open up with ANY SCHOOL from the S.E.C. so we would not have to hear about them in the BCS later..Fist game of the season to shut the talk about BOISE every year for going 12-0 and beating the likes of Utah State's 36-17 EVERY GAME!!! Great post as always Stardust!

[OrangenowBlue]

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My God, you nailed that right on the head in every aspect! I just wish Boise would open up with ANY SCHOOL from the S.E.C. so we would not have to hear about them in the BCS later..Fist game of the season to shut the talk about BOISE every year for going 12-0 and beating the likes of Utah State's 36-17 EVERY GAME!!! Great post as always Stardust!

So why doesn't some of the SEC schools schedule them at home. You guys are criticizing Boise State when they made the correct challenge. They stated they would travel to another school without them having to play a return game. Why doesn't Tennessee schedule them instead of a Murray State. Why doesn't UK schedule them instead of Louisiana Monroe or Norfolk State. Guys(and girls) if they are so overrated and out of their league, why doesn't these bigger conferences just play Boise State on homecoming night. If they continuously get beat soundly, then you can shut up the Boise State fans. It seems to me that we have several posters that are ignoring the fact that Boise State stated they would travel WITHOUT a return game at their home field the following year.

[Stardust]

So why doesn't some of the SEC schools schedule them at home. You guys are criticizing Boise State when they made the correct challenge. They stated they would travel to another school without them having to play a return game. Why doesn't Tennessee schedule them instead of a Murray State. Why doesn't UK schedule them instead of Louisiana Monroe or Norfolk State. Guys(and girls) if they are so overrated and out of their league, why doesn't these bigger conferences just play Boise State on homecoming night. If they continuously get beat soundly, then you can shut up the Boise State fans. It seems to me that we have several posters that are ignoring the fact that Boise State stated they would travel WITHOUT a return game at their home field the following year.

Because in 3 years, when these big schools schedule opens up there is nothing based on history of these types of schools that say's Boise be be any good. Why is it that no one gets that Boise can't schedule a game NEXT year. All of these teams non-conference schedules are comleted 2-3 years out in advance. Then the Conference set's the IN conference games based on match-ups and travel.

[Playboy5]

So why doesn't some of the SEC schools schedule them at home. You guys are criticizing Boise State when they made the correct challenge. They stated they would travel to another school without them having to play a return game. Why doesn't Tennessee schedule them instead of a Murray State. Why doesn't UK schedule them instead of Louisiana Monroe or Norfolk State. Guys(and girls) if they are so overrated and out of their league, why doesn't these bigger conferences just play Boise State on homecoming night. If they continuously get beat soundly, then you can shut up the Boise State fans. It seems to me that we have several posters that are ignoring the fact that Boise State stated they would travel WITHOUT a return game at their home field the following year.

Because the S.E.C. schools aren't getting anything out of it whatsoever. It is doing NOTHING BUT benefitting Boise and that is why nobody will be stupid enough to take it. The S.E.C. has a tough enough schedule to get themselves into BCS games with the conference schedule that it doesn't need a chance of losing to Boise when it can play a lesser opponent..Very simple.

[OrangenowBlue]

So your point is on one hand you are stating that Boise State is overrated and not any good but on the other hand the SEC is not getting anything out of it and it only benefits Boise State. If Boise gets their butts kicked like you guys have stated, how are they getting anything out of it except money. 2 or 3 years down the road they might not be as good but the odds are they will be better then Murray State, Louisiana Monroe, Norfolk State or Miami(Ohio). What does the SEC get out of playing these schools. Nothing.

[Stardust]

So your point is on one hand you are stating that Boise State is overrated and not any good but on the other hand the SEC is not getting anything out of it and it only benefits Boise State. If Boise gets their butts kicked like you guys have stated, how are they getting anything out of it except money. 2 or 3 years down the road they might not be as good but the odds are they will be better then Murray State, Louisiana Monroe, Norfolk State or Miami(Ohio). What does the SEC get out of playing these schools. Nothing.

But they won't be in-state. State run University's are required to schedule at least one in-state small school each year. These big schools don't do it out of the goodness of their heart or just to get the easy win, they have to. This was a huge story about ten years ago when the state of Florida gave several million dollars for stadium renovations. The requirement was for FSU to bump their mandated 1 school per year to 2. This is to generate money for the other "State" funded schools and to keep the money "In State". It's not as easy to scheudle as everyone makes it out to be and the media does no justice by telling the minnions the story that they want them to hear so they can all feel sorry for the unfairly treated schools that don't get to be recognized with the big boys........

[OrangenowBlue]

What has that got to do with my post. The three latter schools I listed are out of state schools UK played in the last couple of years. Murray State or Western has played Tennessee. I believe Virginia Tech is playing Boise next year. There is no reason some of the other major schools cannot pick them up every now and then down the road.

[Playboy5]

So your point is on one hand you are stating that Boise State is overrated and not any good but on the other hand the SEC is not getting anything out of it and it only benefits Boise State. If Boise gets their butts kicked like you guys have stated, how are they getting anything out of it except money. 2 or 3 years down the road they might not be as good but the odds are they will be better then Murray State, Louisiana Monroe, Norfolk State or Miami(Ohio). What does the SEC get out of playing these schools. Nothing.

Exactly my point...SEC playing these schools is a break after playing the BEST OF THE BEST. We play the best in the nation EVERY WEEK during conference scheduling.

[Playboy5]

Teams like Va. Tech might need to play Boise since there conference is CAKE. SEC teams doesn't need to play anyone out of conference to show what they are made of.

[Stardust]

What has that got to do with my post. The three latter schools I listed are out of state schools UK played in the last couple of years. Murray State or Western has played Tennessee. I believe Virginia Tech is playing Boise next year. There is no reason some of the other major schools cannot pick them up every now and then down the road.

So every happy go lucky, dime a dozen team who has 2-3 years of success and then disappears off the face of the map, deserves to get on a perrenial powerhouse schedule every year....... BSU will be forgotten in 2 years. Just like Hawaii, Wyoming, Marshall, Fresno State, BYU for the 20 stretch.

C'mon, get real. Go do your own wikepedia top 25 search for the last 20 years and tell me what happens to these "get lucky for2 years" teams. Why should a big school waste their time with these schools who find lightening in a bottle for a couple of years then get slammed with reality and disappear, just like the rest.......

[OrangenowBlue]

So every happy go lucky, dime a dozen team who has 2-3 years of success and then disappears off the face of the map, deserves to get on a perrenial powerhouse schedule every year....... BSU will be forgotten in 2 years. Just like Hawaii, Wyoming, Marshall, Fresno State, BYU for the 20 stretch.

C'mon, get real. Go do your own wikepedia top 25 search for the last 20 years and tell me what happens to these "get lucky for2 years" teams. Why should a big school waste their time with these schools who find lightening in a bottle for a couple of years then get slammed with reality and disappear, just like the rest.......

I do agree with you on Hawaii. Marshall's success was in another division. Lets take a good look at the "two years" of success that Boise State has.

1999-2000 10-3
2000-2001 10-2
2001-2002 8-3
2002-2003 12-1
2003-2004 13-1
2004-2005 11-1
2005-2006 9-3
2006-2007 13-0
2007-2008 10-3
2008-2009 12-1
2009-2010 9-0

I do believe they have been successful enough to garner the attention of some of the BCS teams to play in non-conference play or do these schools actually do fear losing to Boise State. It doesn't appear according to their records for the last ten years, that they are going anywhere, anytime soon.

[BigBlueBobcatFan]

they could not hang with a descent achieving SEC team examples UK-Georgia-UT-South Carolina and maybe Vandy Boise is not that good

[cougarpride08]

This year's Boise State would demolish Notre Dame.....

I agree!

[OrangenowBlue]

they could not hang with a descent achieving SEC team examples UK-Georgia-UT-South Carolina and maybe Vandy Boise is not that good

I agree but this is all speculation. If one of these teams would play and whip Boise State instead of playing pitiful teams or teams from other divisions it would remove all speculation and shut up the Boise State fateful. If you keep avoiding them and not playing them and Boise keeps putting up big numbers in the win column, it appears that the big dogs have a little fear that Boise may be capable of beating them and they do not want the humiliation. It has been argued that they have only been a "two year and done" team when they have been very successful for a decade now. I know SEC teams need some easy games due to the strengh of their schedule, but if Boise is going to be an easy win like many of the posters insinuate, then why not schedule them down the road. I am a UK fan but I do believe Boise State is better then UK and Vandy both. They would be in trouble with most other SEC teams.

[cj2561]

I would like to see Boise St. and TCU in a better conference. Boise St. #2 in win since 2000. I think USC is ahead of them.
TCU is for real, last year when OK score 56+ points a game. TCU hold them to there 2nd fewless points last year.