[kywldcat01]

How about you go make your own thread about how bad Valley will be next year? :please:

Are you not reading a word I say? I've said time and time again SV will be a powerhouse within their region and are a legit top 10 team. Just because I say they don't have the same talent as the elite teams in the state, doesn't mean I'm calling them a bad team.

It's just IMO that when and if they play teams like Holmes, Scott co, Eastern, etc., you guys will realize that they just don't stack up to those teams' talent levels.

[wildcattoo]

SUMMER BALL:
June 4- at Clark Co. vs. Clark and Henry Clay

June 5- at Bath Co. vs. Scott and Bath Co

June 11-13- MSU team camp

June 15-17- Pikeville College Team Camp

June 18-20- AAU State Tourney

Season:
NOV. 21 Scrimmage TBA ----------- Away

NOV. 28 Fast Lane Classic------------ Sheldon Clark

DEC. 5 Lexington Paul L. Dunbar ---------- Home

DEC. 8 Sheldon Clark ---------------- Home

DEC. 12 Miller Grove GA ---------------- at Expo

DEC. 15 Pikeville------------------ Home

DEC. 18 Pike County Central ----------------- Away

DEC. 21 Johnson Central ---------------- Home

DEC. 22 Besty Layne -------------------- Away

DEC. 28-31 Kingdom Of The Sun Tourney--------------- Ocala,Fl

JAN. 5-9 WYMT-TV Tourney ----------------- Knott

JAN. 13-18 All "A" Region Tourney --------------- at Expo

JAN. 21 Phelps -------------------- Home

JAN. 22 Christian County ------------------ Home

JAN. 27-31 All "A" State Tourney ------------------- E.K.U

FEB. 2 Prestonsburg --------------- Away

FEB. 5 Belfry --------------- Away

FEB. 6 North Laurel --------------------- Home

FEB. 9 East Ridge ---------------------- Home

FEB. 12 Pikeville ---------------------- Away

FEB. 16 Lawrence Co ------------------------- Home

FEB. 19 Perry Co Central ------------------------ Away

Is the AAU summer ball roster the same as the regular season schedule. I heard Garrison was playing with them? Any truth???

[bballreporter]

What is the latest word on any transfers coming to Valley.

[bballreporter]

Has anyone heard that Timmy Knipp is still considering Valley.

[W.I.T.N.E.S.S]

Has anyone heard that Timmy Knipp is still considering Valley.

I haven't anything about it.

[kywldcat01]

Has anyone heard that Timmy Knipp is still considering Valley.

Knipp won't be at Valley....if he goes anywhere it'll be GRC or Warren Central. The only other possibility, if not Elliott Co, is Scott Co.

[TheRealVille]

Are you not reading a word I say? I've said time and time again SV will be a powerhouse within their region and are a legit top 10 team. Just because I say they don't have the same talent as the elite teams in the state, doesn't mean I'm calling them a bad team.

It's just IMO that when and if they play teams like Holmes, Scott co, Eastern, etc., you guys will realize that they just don't stack up to those teams' talent levels.

Agreed! To say SV ranks like the elite 5 or 6 teams in the state, you would have to compare schedules. I haven't saw Holmes or such schedules, but I will bank that they are pretty tough. The above schedule, for a team that is "touted" as one of the best in the state, is a cupcake schedule.

[kywldcat01]

Agreed! To say SV ranks like the elite 5 or 6 teams in the state, you would have to compare schedules. I haven't saw Holmes or such schedules, but I will bank that they are pretty tough. The above schedule, for a team that is "touted" as one of the best in the state, is a cupcake schedule.

Several teams would LOVE to have that schedule. :Thumbs:

The only team on there worth even mentioning is Christian Co.

[Mr.Rainman]

Several teams would LOVE to have that schedule. :Thumbs:

The only team on there worth even mentioning is Christian Co.

What about the Tournaments? I'm sure their wont be weak teams in the tournaments they're in. :Thumbs:

[kywldcat01]

What about the Tournaments? I'm sure their wont be weak teams in the tournaments they're in. :Thumbs:

The out of state tournaments usually have solid teams, but imo they don't help you any because it doesn't give you an idea of how you stack up against the best teams in state. It would have been much better for them to play in something like the KOB, Lexcath tourney, Defenders of the station tourney, or one of the other holiday tournaments in state.

[Mr.Rainman]

The out of state tournaments usually have solid teams, but imo they don't help you any because it doesn't give you an idea of how you stack up against the best teams in state. It would have been much better for them to play in something like the KOB, Lexcath tourney, Defenders of the station tourney, or one of the other holiday tournaments in state.

Season:
NOV. 21 Scrimmage TBA ----------- Away

NOV. 28 Fast Lane Classic------------ Sheldon Clark

DEC. 5 Lexington Paul L. Dunbar ---------- Home

DEC. 8 Sheldon Clark ---------------- Home

DEC. 12 Miller Grove GA ---------------- at Expo

DEC. 15 Pikeville------------------ Home

DEC. 18 Pike County Central ----------------- Away

DEC. 21 Johnson Central ---------------- Home

DEC. 22 Besty Layne -------------------- Away

DEC. 28-31 Kingdom Of The Sun Tourney--------------- Ocala,Fl

JAN. 5-9 WYMT-TV Tourney ----------------- Knott

JAN. 13-18 All "A" Region Tourney --------------- at Expo

JAN. 21 Phelps -------------------- Home

JAN. 22 Christian County ------------------ Home

JAN. 27-31 All "A" State Tourney ------------------- E.K.U

FEB. 2 Prestonsburg --------------- Away

FEB. 5 Belfry --------------- Away

FEB. 6 North Laurel --------------------- Home

FEB. 9 East Ridge ---------------------- Home

FEB. 12 Pikeville ---------------------- Away

FEB. 16 Lawrence Co ------------------------- Home

FEB. 19 Perry Co Central ------------------------ Away

Looks like there are 4 in state tournaments. Not including the summer AAU STATE Tournament. 1 out of state tournament? hh:

[DortonWildcat5]

The Fast Lane Classic is not a tournament. Also, it is a preseason event.

[kywldcat01]

NOV. 28 Fast Lane Classic------------ Sheldon Clark

JAN. 5-9 WYMT-TV Tourney ----------------- Knott

JAN. 13-18 All "A" Region Tourney --------------- at Expo

JAN. 27-31 All "A" State Tourney ------------------- E.K.U

Looks like there are 4 in state tournaments. Not including the summer AAU STATE Tournament. 1 out of state tournament? hh:

Are you seriously trying to say those are tough tournaments?

Fast Lane Classic is just a scrimmage and the majority of the time the teams don't have all of their players because of football. NEXT!

WYMT-TV Tourney...are you serious? Not one top 20 team was even in it this past season.

All A Region Tourney, Shelby Valley will be playing teams like Betsy Lane, Prestonsburg, and Pikeville. You can't be serious in thinking that's a competitive tournament.

All A State tournament only had 3 teams in it that were sweet 16 teams and 2 of those teams didn't even make it to the finals of the all A state tournament. Again, another weak tournament.

If you'd actually re read my post you'd see I said nothing about them playing in in state tournaments throughout the season, but rather at Christmas time, instead of going to Florida it'd make more sense for them to play in one of the big in state tourneys to see how they fare against top 10 and top 15 competition. Until they start doing this, you'll see first round exits from the state tourney every year. hh:

[TheRealVille]

Are you seriously trying to say those are tough tournaments?

Fast Lane Classic is just a scrimmage and the majority of the time the teams don't have all of their players because of football. NEXT!

WYMT-TV Tourney...are you serious? Not one top 20 team was even in it this past season.

All A Region Tourney, Shelby Valley will be playing teams like Betsy Lane, Prestonsburg, and Pikeville. You can't be serious in thinking that's a competitive tournament.

All A State tournament only had 3 teams in it that were sweet 16 teams and 2 of those teams didn't even make it to the finals of the all A state tournament. Again, another weak tournament.

If you'd actually re read my post you'd see I said nothing about them playing in in state tournaments throughout the season, but rather at Christmas time, instead of going to Florida it'd make more sense for them to play in one of the big in state tourneys to see how they fare against top 10 and top 15 competition. Until they start doing this, you'll see first round exits from the state tourney every year. hh:

Booher is about the numbers. He don't care about getting them ready for March as long as his numbers stay up. He never schedules many quality teams. My guess is, that you'll see another first round exit this year. Nothing agianst the kids, they are great, it's just facts.

[kcc75]

I think they should be a top 10 team and probably should repeat as all A champs. Good luck to SV.

[DortonWildcat5]

Are you seriously trying to say those are tough tournaments?

Fast Lane Classic is just a scrimmage and the majority of the time the teams don't have all of their players because of football. NEXT!

WYMT-TV Tourney...are you serious? Not one top 20 team was even in it this past season.

All A Region Tourney, Shelby Valley will be playing teams like Betsy Lane, Prestonsburg, and Pikeville. You can't be serious in thinking that's a competitive tournament.

All A State tournament only had 3 teams in it that were sweet 16 teams and 2 of those teams didn't even make it to the finals of the all A state tournament. Again, another weak tournament.

If you'd actually re read my post you'd see I said nothing about them playing in in state tournaments throughout the season, but rather at Christmas time, instead of going to Florida it'd make more sense for them to play in one of the big in state tourneys to see how they fare against top 10 and top 15 competition. Until they start doing this, you'll see first round exits from the state tourney every year. hh:

Not every year. I agree for the most part with what you've said, but Valley will have a chance to win another game at Rupp this year, depending on the draw. Also, the All "A" State Tournament is not a weak tournament. Whoever wins it will have to beat at least a couple of really good teams.

[HollaBack]

Everyone on here acts like top 20 teams are begging to drive a minimum of 2.5 hours to eastern Kentucky to play the top teams in their area. They can drive 10 minutes and get the same competition with better refs. Everyone from the central part of the state feel they are going to get hosed when they come to eastern Kentucky. Therefore, they don't come. If any of you all can get any one to come play SV, KCC or Perry in a home and away 2 year deal, then please email their coaches.

[kywldcat01]

Booher is about the numbers. He don't care about getting them ready for March as long as his numbers stay up. He never schedules many quality teams. My guess is, that you'll see another first round exit this year. Nothing agianst the kids, they are great, it's just facts.

The sad thing is, Booher actually has a talented enough team to compete with top 15 and top 20 teams, but chooses not to so he can win.

If you look at the state champs over the past several years, you'll notice that almost all of them played atleast 5 top 20 teams throughout the season.

Booher is a good coach but does a poor job at preparing his team for the state tournament.

[HollaBack]

The sad thing is, Booher actually has a talented enough team to compete with top 15 and top 20 teams, but chooses not to so he can win.

If you look at the state champs over the past several years, you'll notice that almost all of them played atleast 5 top 20 teams throughout the season.

Booher is a good coach but does a poor job at preparing his team for the state tournament.

Again, Central Ky coaches do not want to play the better eastern ky teams because of the reasons I stated before. Plus, it looks bad in their communities and for their programs if they lose to eastern Ky teams. I don't believe Jefferson County is letting their schools even travel past a certain point this year because of mileage cost.

Elliott Co. (before they graduated everyone this year), Shelby Valley, Knott Co., Hazard, Paintsville (before they graduated everyone last year) cannot get top teams from central Ky. Plus during school nights, schools do not travel that far for a game.

I see SV is in Kingdom of the Sun in Fl. It is as good or better than any Ky tourney, probably most comparable to King of the Bluegrass. The WYMT traditionally has all the top teams from the mountains in it as well. SV will be fine and prepared.

For someone that acts like they are from Holmes or for Holmes, why in the world do you care so much about a team from a small town in eastern Kentucky?

[thetribe]

Was Justice held back in middle school?

[DortonWildcat5]

Was Justice held back in middle school?

Yes, 7th grade.

[PC_You_Know]

He'll still graduate at about the same age as me and I was never held back.

[thetribe]

He'll still graduate at about the same age as me and I was never held back.

I don't understand the point of this post. He will graduate at ABOUT the same age as you...Doesn't everyone graduate around the same age? 17-19 years old? I was just asking because I didn't know. I saw today that he was a 19 year old junior so that's why I asked.

[PC_You_Know]

Just figured it was another shot at Justice, didn't really see any reason to ask about the hold back, everyone pretty much knows about it by now.

[kywldcat01]

Again, Central Ky coaches do not want to play the better eastern ky teams because of the reasons I stated before. Plus, it looks bad in their communities and for their programs if they lose to eastern Ky teams. I don't believe Jefferson County is letting their schools even travel past a certain point this year because of mileage cost.

You're way off base with this comment. First off, why would a central ky team travel 2.5 hours to Eastern KY when the majority of the top 20 teams are actually in Central KY in the Lexington and L'ville area? I doubt very seriously central ky coaches who are competing in the 6th, 7th, and 11th regions fear traveling to EKY. It'd be pointless for them to make the travel when there's better competition in their own area.

Elliott Co. (before they graduated everyone this year), Shelby Valley, Knott Co., Hazard, Paintsville (before they graduated everyone last year) cannot get top teams from central Ky. Plus during school nights, schools do not travel that far for a game.

Actually Hazard has played Holmes 3 of the past 4 years...all losses. Knott Co played Boone Co this past season and lost by 24. It's the other way around there chief...the EKY schools aren't trying to travel outside of the mountains but yet expect teams to bang down their door to come there, despite the fact that central and nky have better competition. Look up the teams records that you mention against nky and eky teams, and you'll find out it isn't very good. I know for a fact that both Holmes and Boone co tried getting a home and away series with EC this past season and they said thanks, but no thanks because they didn't want to return the trip. BTW, a lot of teams are playing on Saturday afternoons now, so the school night excuse holds little validity.

I see SV is in Kingdom of the Sun in Fl. It is as good or better than any Ky tourney, probably most comparable to King of the Bluegrass. The WYMT traditionally has all the top teams from the mountains in it as well. SV will be fine and prepared.

The KOB and LIT are nationally recognized tournaments. I've never even heard of the Kingdom of the Sun tourney in Florida. The big out of town tourneys are in Coco Beach, Fl, Myrtle Beach, and there are several in Texas that are nationally recognized. As far as the WYMT, it may be a good mountain tournament, but it attracts no where near the level of talent that central ky and nky tournaments attract.

For someone that acts like they are from Holmes or for Holmes, why in the world do you care so much about a team from a small town in eastern Kentucky?

I could care less honestly...but when you EKY folks get on here touting your teams up like they're the greatest thing since sliced bread, when they've done nothing to earn it, someone needs to step in and bring you guys back down to earth. EKY basketball is very weak. Why do you think the 16th, 15th, and 14th regions years in and year out are rated as the 4 or 5 worst regions in the state? Win a state championship then you can talk EKY basketball up.

[DortonWildcat5]

I don't understand the point of this post. He will graduate at ABOUT the same age as you...Doesn't everyone graduate around the same age? 17-19 years old? I was just asking because I didn't know. I saw today that he was a 19 year old junior so that's why I asked.

He is not 19 years old. That would make him ineligible for next year. He is 18 and won't turn 19 until well into his senior year.

[Uncle Fester]

He is not 19 years old. That would make him ineligible for next year. He is 18 and won't turn 19 until well into his senior year.

Just people trying to ruffle feathers DW5, what else is new? :popcorn:

[DortonWildcat5]

Just people trying to ruffle feathers DW5, what else is new? :popcorn:

You're probably right. Just setting the record straight.

[Hondo]

I don't understand the point of this post. He will graduate at ABOUT the same age as you...Doesn't everyone graduate around the same age? 17-19 years old? I was just asking because I didn't know. I saw today that he was a 19 year old junior so that's why I asked.

Tribe,

I don't know where you get your information, but take it from someone who KNOWS. For the record, Elisha is currently 18 years old and will not turn 19 until December of this year.

This "urban legend" of Elisha being a 20 years old or older and still in high school is ridiculously crazy.

[PC_You_Know]

Yes Tribe, where did you "see" that he was 19, did he write it down on a piece of paper for you, or was this some kind of source that is making things up?