[bobcatlunatik]

Does anyone know how many rushing yds. Channing had for the season and how many rushing td's and how many receiving yds. this season and receiving td's. Also, how many rushing yards and touchdowns so far in his career.

he finished this year with 36 rushing td's 2 recieving td's 3047 rushing yars not that many recieving yards couple hundred. in his career he has around 6500 rushing yards and about 70 td's. he break the rushing record the td record will probably stand. how can the finch guy be better he didnt even have 2000 yards this year did he?

[bobcatlunatik]

This guy is the real deal, bull. I was told he was from Perry County, is this true? Does he still live there?

it doesnt matter if he moved here from CALIFORNIA the kid can run the ball deal with it. he is here to stay at breathitt. but for the info channing went to robinson in middle school and robinson doesnt have a high school so he came to breathitt and is now here.

[Midee1]

he finished this year with 36 rushing td's 2 recieving td's 3047 rushing yars not that many recieving yards couple hundred. in his career he has around 6500 rushing yards and about 70 td's. he break the rushing record the td record will probably stand. how can the finch guy be better he didnt even have 2000 yards this year did he?

Which rushing record are you talking about? Single season or career?

Single season is

3,361 Frank Jones (Bath County) 1969

Career is
8,224 Derek Homer (Fort Knox) 1993-96

[EKUAlum05]

he finished this year with 36 rushing td's 2 recieving td's 3047 rushing yars not that many recieving yards couple hundred. in his career he has around 6500 rushing yards and about 70 td's. he break the rushing record the td record will probably stand. how can the finch guy be better he didnt even have 2000 yards this year did he?

No he did not..but he also played his first 4 games with a significant injury. He also shared carries with numerous other backs, played superior competition, and typically never saw more than a series of playing time in the second half.
He also had the following stat line against the same Central defense that shut Fugate down aside from two carries:

12 carries, 185 yards, 3 TD

[FBALL]

Good lord. He played against weaker competition than Finch. Stats are not the whole story.

[bobcatlunatik]

Which rushing record are you talking about? Single season or career?

Single season is

3,361 Frank Jones (Bath County) 1969

Career is
8,224 Derek Homer (Fort Knox) 1993-96

im talking career i dont think that anyone will break that single season for along time thats a good chunk of yards. if channing would have played injury free all year he may have broken the single season record.

[bobcatlunatik]

Good lord. He played against weaker competition than Finch. Stats are not the whole story.

how can u say that he played weaker competition. ok channing fugate is not in a 6A school so of course he is not gonna play against 6A schools. i credit finch though i have heard alot but never seen him play. if channing had a 6A line he could rush for 4000 yards in a season. in breathitt we are lucky enough to have enough people to make a team. in ST. X they have to cut players

[phdballer]

apples and oranges trying to compare Fugate and Finch. Two different classes, two different schemes. I hav no problem with Finch getting it this year seeing as he is a senior and played one of the toughest schedules in the State. If Fugate repeats what he did this year then I am sure that he will get it next year. I would like to see Fugate in a 2 back I system though. He would be down right nasty dotting the eye 7 yards from the line of scrimmage. Could you imagine him as the fullback in that Central option scheme. They read the lineman and fake it to the fullback on nearly every run play. I would imagine with a back like Fugate they would be handing it to him a lot more. Wishful thinking I suppose. But he is as good as advertised.

[Midee1]

how can u say that he played weaker competition. ok channing fugate is not in a 6A school so of course he is not gonna play against 6A schools. i credit finch though i have heard alot but never seen him play. if channing had a 6A line he could rush for 4000 yards in a season. in breathitt we are lucky enough to have enough people to make a team. in ST. X they have to cut players

Not downgrading the kid at all but you have to think that if he was running behind a 6A line then he would be playing against 6A defenses which in turn would probably kill his stats.

[2educated]

Yay Central High! Don't want to say (okay I do!) "Told ya so!!!!"
Great season Breathitt and you guys have nothing to hang your heads about. The team is full of good kids and they are well coached.

2 Things

1. Central is not "JUST" fast. It takes more to win than just an idea of genetically dispersed ability that is dormant and uncultivated. It takes sacrifice and discipline. Talent and speed alone have left many teams at home watching highlights of state championship games or watching other teams celebrate across the field. Credit must be given to the student-athletes who sacrificed and dedicated themselves for a team goal. Some schools are mentioned (County Schools/Mountain Schools) and descriptions that accompany are hard-nosed, tough, effort, and desire. Central is mentioned and description that accompany are fast, talented, gifted, and natural ability as if the kids from Central sit around all year and roll out of bed and win state championships. The kids at Central work every bit as hard as those kids at the Catholic Schools and at schools in the County and in the Mountains. I think it is a discredit and race-tinged to continue to promote the idea that other teams work hard and Central just has natural gifts.

2. Channing Fugate is a heck of an athlete. Even better in person than I saw on film. However, I believe perceptions of him are skewed because of the competition he plays and the ability that surrounds him. I believe he deserves some good looks from some good college programs. Is he the best back in the state? No. Is he in the top tier of football players in the state? Yes. It is tough sometimes to compare talent across such a large continuum. What you can compare is him to his competition and "hands down" he is the best player in his region. Across the board he is in the 75 percentile of players in the state. I think you put some players from Jefferson County in the Mountains and they would have similar numbers to his this year. I think you put Fugate in Jefferson County, he would be one of the better backs in the county, but not the best. He is good but sometimes limited vision and personal connectedness skews perspective. Let's not forget that Chance Hughes had 169 yards rushing and 2 touchdowns in the "Battle of 28's" as compered to Fugates 133 yards. Granted Fugate had tough sledding against the Central "D" but Deuce Finch played against the same "D" and had over 180 yards (FYI Central QB Chris King had 209 yards rushing against St. X). The point is Fugate is a good, athletic football player but let's not put undo expectations and weight on his shoulders as more than what he is.

See you next year! Is there already a three-peat buzz? Centralllll...Central High!

[MonsterMan]

Put a UK jersey on him and watch what he will do!

[Crossbones]

Big difference playing this schedule
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SCORESTATS?Aug 29, 08Johnson Centralhome14- 26(L)noKRMC Honey BowlSep 5, 08Prestonsburgaway20- 27(L)noSep 12, 08Boyd Countyhome41- 6(W)noSep 19, 08Estill Countyhome7- 6(W)noSep 26, 08Harlan Countyaway47- 7(W)noOct 3, 08OpenhomeOct 10, 08Fleming Countyaway48- 6(W)noOct 17, 08Lexington Christianhome40- 26(W)noOct 24, 08Powell Countyhome55- 13(W)noOct 31, 08Lawrence Countyaway37- 14(W)noNov 7, 08Shelby Valleyhome49- 22(W)noNov 14, 08Garrard Countyhome28- 13(W)noClass 3A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron BowlNov 21, 08Harlan Countyhome62- 34(W)noClass 3A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron BowlNov 28, 08Estill Countyhome39- 7(W)noClass 3A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron BowlDec 5, 08Belfryaway14- 12(W)noClass 3A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron BowlDec 12, 08Centralat Papa John's Cardinal Stadium, Louisville19- 40(L)noClass 3A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl

Than there is playing this schedule
2008 Football Schedule and ResultsDATE OPPONENT RESULT/TIME RECORD/TICKETS August 31at Louisville W 27-21-0 (0-0)September 6Norfolk State W 38-32-0 (0-0)September 13Middle Tennessee State W 20-143-0 (0-0)September 27Western Kentucky W 41-34-0 (0-0)October 4at No. 2 Alabama L 17-144-1 (0-1)October 11South Carolina L 24-174-2 (0-2)October 18Arkansas W 21-205-2 (1-2)October 25at No. 10 Florida L 63-55-3 (1-3)November 1at Mississippi State W 14-136-3 (2-3)November 8No. 13 Georgia L 42-386-4 (2-4)November 15Vanderbilt L 31-246-5 (2-5)November 29at Tennessee L 28-106-6 (2-6)January 2vs. East Carolina* 5:00 PM ET

[KyGurl]

Contrats Nice Job!!!

[Leonidas]

I watched the 3A and the 4A state title games on TV yesterday, and the best back I saw on TV was McCarthy from Bullitt East.

[Crazy Horse]

Which rushing record are you talking about? Single season or career?

Single season is

3,361 Frank Jones (Bath County) 1969

Career is
8,224 Derek Homer (Fort Knox) 1993-96

Channing will break the career record next year.

[Breathitt Bobcat]

Good lord. He played against weaker competition than Finch. Stats are not the whole story.

Yeah;weaker;like RUSSELL

[Breathitt Bobcat]

Big difference playing this schedule
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SCORESTATS?Aug 29, 08Johnson Centralhome14- 26(L)noKRMC Honey BowlSep 5, 08Prestonsburgaway20- 27(L)noSep 12, 08Boyd Countyhome41- 6(W)noSep 19, 08Estill Countyhome7- 6(W)noSep 26, 08Harlan Countyaway47- 7(W)noOct 3, 08OpenhomeOct 10, 08Fleming Countyaway48- 6(W)noOct 17, 08Lexington Christianhome40- 26(W)noOct 24, 08Powell Countyhome55- 13(W)noOct 31, 08Lawrence Countyaway37- 14(W)noNov 7, 08Shelby Valleyhome49- 22(W)noNov 14, 08Garrard Countyhome28- 13(W)noClass 3A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron BowlNov 21, 08Harlan Countyhome62- 34(W)noClass 3A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron BowlNov 28, 08Estill Countyhome39- 7(W)noClass 3A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron BowlDec 5, 08Belfryaway14- 12(W)noClass 3A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron BowlDec 12, 08Centralat Papa John's Cardinal Stadium, Louisville19- 40(L)noClass 3A KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl

Than there is playing this schedule
2008 Football Schedule and ResultsDATE OPPONENT RESULT/TIME RECORD/TICKETS August 31at Louisville W 27-21-0 (0-0)September 6Norfolk State W 38-32-0 (0-0)September 13Middle Tennessee State W 20-143-0 (0-0)September 27Western Kentucky W 41-34-0 (0-0)October 4at No. 2 Alabama L 17-144-1 (0-1)October 11South Carolina L 24-174-2 (0-2)October 18Arkansas W 21-205-2 (1-2)October 25at No. 10 Florida L 63-55-3 (1-3)November 1at Mississippi State W 14-136-3 (2-3)November 8No. 13 Georgia L 42-386-4 (2-4)November 15Vanderbilt L 31-246-5 (2-5)November 29at Tennessee L 28-106-6 (2-6)January 2vs. East Carolina* 5:00 PM ET

Whatever point your trying to make here is moot.

[Breathitt Bobcat]

Not downgrading the kid at all but you have to think that if he was running behind a 6A line then he would be playing against 6A defenses which in turn would probably kill his stats.

Or may improve his stats.:Angry07:

[cj2561]

Channing will break the career record next year.

Channing got 4779 yards and 65 tds. I added the 133 yards he got again Central, does any one know if he have a tds in that game. Does he have any rushing yards or tds as a fr. Right now he need 3445 yards to break the career rushing yards records, if he get that he will also have the season record. He need 45 tds to tie the records. Good luck next year, hope to see someone from the mountains break the records.

[Crossbones]

Whatever point your trying to make here is moot.

I can't believe I have to explain this, but here it goes. Monsterman said "put a UK jersey on him and watch what he does" I simple showed Breathitt's schedule and UK's schedule. Fugate can not and will not get the same kind of stats against top teir SEC teams he got against high school teams. Which I highly doubt he will play for an SEC school. Pretty simple, maybe you should read the whole thread before you reply.

[Midee1]

Yeah;weaker;like RUSSELL

What brought Russell into this discussion?

Seriously. Take off your bobcat goggles and look at the competition that Finch has faced. There are very few 3A schools that can offer that level of consistent competition.

Plus I don't see how playing behind a 6A line would improve his stats unless of course said 6A school was playing 1A schools. Face it Breathitt does not play the same level as Trinity and St. X.

No one is saying he is bad. Just giving scenarios and opinions. No need to take it so personal.

[MonsterMan]

I can't believe I have to explain this, but here it goes. Monsterman said "put a UK jersey on him and watch what he does" I simple showed Breathitt's schedule and UK's schedule. Fugate can not and will not get the same kind of stats against top teir SEC teams he got against high school teams. Which I highly doubt he will play for an SEC school. Pretty simple, maybe you should read the whole thread before you reply.

I did not get it either. I do know the difference between UK and high school. I still say PUT A UK JERSEY ON HIM AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! You must not be from Eastern Kentucky or a UK fan!

[Crossbones]

I did not get it either. I do know the difference between UK and high school. I still say PUT A UK JERSEY ON HIM AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! You must not be from Eastern Kentucky or a UK fan!

I am both, from Eastern Kentucky and a UK fan. Has nothing to do with the fact that this young man would NOT and could NOT rack up those same kind of stats against college competition. I'm just being realitic here, unlike you all that are looking through Breathitt Blue colored glasses. Fugate is a good, no excellent high school running back against the competition Breathitt has played. But against a D1 defense. I don't know how simpler I can explain it.

[MonsterMan]

I am both, from Eastern Kentucky and a UK fan. Has nothing to do with the fact that this young man would NOT and could NOT rack up those same kind of stats against college competition. I'm just being realitic here, unlike you all that are looking through Breathitt Blue colored glasses. Fugate is a good, no excellent high school running back against the competition Breathitt has played. But against a D1 defense. I don't know how simpler I can explain it.

I am a JC fan and looking through black and gold glasses and saw him play. Come on here guys, the kid has had a great year and is a great propect. The kid is good and needs to get the credit. Do not try and justify if he would be good in your area, THE KID CAN PLAY ANYWHERE AND BE GREAT IN KY PERIOD. These kids work hard and all they can do is read comments from people who do not know football on sites like this is sick! I should not call him a kid, he is a man! We have some great running backs at JC, but I gaurantee Mr. Fugate is plenty good enough to play for us anytime or against any 5A teams we played.

Would you be a Belfry fan? Not many running backs get a victory at the CAM. Fugate did!

[Crossbones]

I am a JC fan and looking through black and gold glasses and saw him play. Come on here guys, the kid has had a great year and is a great propect. The kid is good and needs to get the credit. Do not try and justify if he would be good in your area, THE KID CAN PLAY ANYWHERE AND BE GREAT IN KY PERIOD. These kids work hard and all they can do is read comments from people who do not know football on sites like this is sick! I should not call him a kid, he is a man! We have some great running backs at JC, but I gaurantee Mr. Fugate is plenty good enough to play for us anytime or against any 5A teams we played.

Would you be a Belfry fan? Not many running backs get a victory at the CAM. Fugate did!

To answer your ?. Yes, I am a Belfry fan. I am first and foremost a football fan. Fugate did not get a win at the Cam, Breathitt County did. Doug Howard of Belfry was a better back, but he was not a D1, especially SEC material. I have not once said Fugate was not a good running back. Shoot, I would be tickled to death seeing him play for Belfry. I also love to see these young athletes make the big time. I am simply calling it from my viewpoint. I am not a scout or anything of the nature. But I have seen a few great football players and Fugate is one of them. But as it stands right now, from what I have seen. He is NOT a D1 dominate back. First and foremost: Speed, then field vision, and then size. That is how D1 backs are scouted IMO. As I said, He has another year, who knows? You all are talking as though I am downing him. I am not. I don't believe Belfry has any D1 caliber players either. David Jones was faster and had better field vision than Fugate and was not recruited as a RB. His speed got him recruited as a DB.

[Breathitt Bobcat]

I can't believe I have to explain this, but here it goes. Monsterman said "put a UK jersey on him and watch what he does" I simple showed Breathitt's schedule and UK's schedule. Fugate can not and will not get the same kind of stats against top teir SEC teams he got against high school teams. Which I highly doubt he will play for an SEC school. Pretty simple, maybe you should read the whole thread before you reply.

Like I said the point is moot until you see him in UK blue.He could be the best ever but we will have to wait and see.

[Breathitt Bobcat]

What brought Russell into this discussion?

Seriously. Take off your bobcat goggles and look at the competition that Finch has faced. There are very few 3A schools that can offer that level of consistent competition.

Plus I don't see how playing behind a 6A line would improve his stats unless of course said 6A school was playing 1A schools. Face it Breathitt does not play the same level as Trinity and St. X.

No one is saying he is bad. Just giving scenarios and opinions. No need to take it so personal.

There you go again.What brought Russell in was a response to a quote made by your neighbor.We have played em' before so I guess they and Belfry and everyone we play is weak.Just agreeing with you.I didn't say a 6A line by the way........I said a St.X line.Just like Finch.

[Breathitt Bobcat]

To answer your ?. Yes, I am a Belfry fan. I am first and foremost a football fan. Fugate did not get a win at the Cam, Breathitt County did. Doug Howard of Belfry was a better back, but he was not a D1, especially SEC material. I have not once said Fugate was not a good running back. Shoot, I would be tickled to death seeing him play for Belfry. I also love to see these young athletes make the big time. I am simply calling it from my viewpoint. I am not a scout or anything of the nature. But I have seen a few great football players and Fugate is one of them. But as it stands right now, from what I have seen. He is NOT a D1 dominate back. First and foremost: Speed, then field vision, and then size. That is how D1 backs are scouted IMO. As I said, He has another year, who knows? You all are talking as though I am downing him. I am not. I don't believe Belfry has any D1 caliber players either. David Jones was faster and had better field vision than Fugate and was not recruited as a RB. His speed got him recruited as a DB.

Fugate is twice better than Chapman was and he was recruited by UK as a Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....RB.We would throw the ball 95 yards then Jon would run it in and get the credit.

[Crossbones]

Fugate is twice better than Chapman was and he was recruited by UK as a Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....RB.We would throw the ball 95 yards then Jon would run it in and get the credit.

And how did he do when he played?

[FBALL]

Yeah;weaker;like RUSSELL

Yeah, Duh.

Russell is definitely weaker and played a much weaker schedule than St. X.