[RavenBoy]

Gilispie couldn't coach a good high school team. First it was Gardener - Webb and now VMI. This team won't even be a eight seed and may not make the tournament. Maybe I start rooting got Uof L.:ChairHit:

Go ahead, they lost today also.

[courtdog]

U of L lost today?

[batter08]

billy g. may be good at getting good players to come to uk but he don't know how to use them. he is getting 3 top 100 recuits next year but for him they will sitting the bench.

[batter08]

good for louisville.

[courtdog]

who beat them?

[thetribe]

Back on topic, please make another thread if need be.


I'm not turning my back on UK because of one game. If they didn't win a game all season I'd still be here. There was a lot to learn from that game and hopefully BCG picks up on it and uses it to our advantage. That's all I will say.

[Braves_Fan_26]

Yeah there was alot to learn but people should have learned it last season. Gillispie couldnt coach an elementary team. He is absolutely horrible, wont take a timeout when they are down big, wont use the press, doesnt know how to put a lineup together. I dont care what anyone says, but Tubby never lost to these kinds of teams. When are you people going to realize this guy is horrible. I know I said in earlier posts that I thought they could beat UNC, well I take that back. They will get destroyed, and I for one cant wait to see it. As for him not using Patterson, he was in foul trouble anyway, and even if he hadnt been, he sucks too. The only reason Patterson got where he is, is because of O.J. Mayo. I hope he does leave next year, I will be saying goodbye and good riddance. Same goes for coach numbnuts. Tribe, what is so wrong with people voicing their opinions on the loss tonight, cant you handle the truth that they just plain suck, get used to it because things arent going to get any better. Oh and for the person that said Louisville lost, yeah they did but it was in football not basketball. Cincinnati beat them.

[RavenBoy]

Yeah there was alot to learn but people should have learned it last season. Gillispie couldnt coach an elementary team. He is absolutely horrible, wont take a timeout when they are down big, wont use the press, doesnt know how to put a lineup together. I dont care what anyone says, but Tubby never lost to these kinds of teams. When are you people going to realize this guy is horrible. I know I said in earlier posts that I thought they could beat UNC, well I take that back. They will get destroyed, and I for one cant wait to see it. As for him not using Patterson, he was in foul trouble anyway, and even if he hadnt been, he sucks too. The only reason Patterson got where he is, is because of O.J. Mayo. I hope he does leave next year, I will be saying goodbye and good riddance. Same goes for coach numbnuts. Tribe, what is so wrong with people voicing their opinions on the loss tonight, cant you handle the truth that they just plain suck, get used to it because things arent going to get any better. Oh and for the person that said Louisville lost, yeah they did but it was in football not basketball. Cincinnati beat them.

Tubby was worse than Billy G. Lville is a football school so it means more.

[RavenBoy]

well we wont have no trouble scoring this year like everyone thought. The only problem is we cant play defense.

[-STAT-]

Back on topic, please make another thread if need be.


I'm not turning my back on UK because of one game. If they didn't win a game all season I'd still be here. There was a lot to learn from that game and hopefully BCG picks up on it and uses it to our advantage. That's all I will say.

Same here, very good post. I posted earlier saying "Wow" because I didn't even know they had gotten beat, just in shock. I agree if it's not going to stay on topic then start a new thread!

[jetpilot]

Very very poor coaching effort by Gillispie. Patterson had 4 shots the whole game...and VMI had 1 player taller than 6'4, and he was only 6'6...

Dumb.

[ukbadmammajamma]

Watching Billie G coach tonight reminded me of Stephen Butcher in last years girls regional championship. It was like he did not know what the heck was going on and made no adjustments. Wasn't all BIlly G's fault though the team just played absolutley HORRIBLE.

I think the thing that annoys me most (other than full-scale game day practices) is how he smiles while they are getting the **** beat out of them by a team that will finish 3rd or 4th in the Big South at best. I never thought I'd say this but last night I was so missing Tubby's scowl and how his eyes got so huge when he was mad-the whites of his eyes looked GINORMOUS! I mean, act like it freakin' matters that you are losing to a team you should be beating, no disrespect to VMI.

[Spartan4Life]

Porter, should be replaced by Liggens, Miller should start for Harris. Maybe then they will have a chance against a strong UNC Team.

[Panther Thunder]

Tubby was worse than Billy G. Lville is a football school so it means more.

Worse in what aspect? In recruiting? Sure. In Coaching? No way in the world. Billy G may get top recruits but it doesn't do you any good if a team is getting just as good, or better recruits as you and you can't coach. Tubby beat the teams he was supposed to. He could even get his teams up to play up to other competition. I would take that all day right now.

[ImagineThat!]

Before I go any further with this post, I want people to know that I am a huge UK fan. You people crack me up. First of all, you get on here and talk trash about UofL about just beating Georgetown by 6 and UK will destroy UofL. Now, UK loses to VMI and everyone wants to lynch BCG (who everyone thougth was the best thing since sliced bread when he was hired) and now Tubby wasn't all that bad. Kinda sounds like Rich Brooks, doesn't it.
Talk about FAIR WEATHER FANS! I know it sucks to lose to a team like VMI, but it is better to do it now and learn from it, make adjustments and be ready come tournament time.
Yes, I agree that BCG could have made adjustments just to win the game, but he obviously has a plan and sees the bigger picture. I'm sure most of you would take a loss to VMI now to be in the running for an SEC championship and eventually a national championship.

[Panther Thunder]

Before I go any further with this post, I want people to know that I am a huge UK fan. You people crack me up. First of all, you get on here and talk trash about UofL about just beating Georgetown by 6 and UK will destroy UofL. Now, UK loses to VMI and everyone wants to lynch BCG (who everyone thougth was the best thing since sliced bread when he was hired) and now Tubby wasn't all that bad. Kinda sounds like Rich Brooks, doesn't it.
Talk about FAIR WEATHER FANS! I know it sucks to lose to a team like VMI, but it is better to do it now and learn from it, make adjustments and be ready come tournament time.
Yes, I agree that BCG could have made adjustments just to win the game, but he obviously has a plan and sees the bigger picture. I'm sure most of you would take a loss to VMI now to be in the running for an SEC championship and eventually a national championship.

I never thought Tubby should have been fired. Just to be clear. And I have never drank the CBCG kool-aid.

[RavenBoy]

I never thought Tubby should have been fired. Just to be clear. And I have never drank the CBCG kool-aid.

Tubby wasent fired, Billy G wouldnt have lost last night if it wasent for Tubby and his horrible players he left Billy G.

[ImagineThat!]

Tubby wasent fired, Billy G wouldnt have lost last night if it wasent for Tubby and his horrible players he left Billy G.

I will give that, Tubby wasn't the best recruiter in the world and BCG is having to get players that fit into his system. That's why I think that everyone needs to lay off of BCG for a while. He needs to be given 4-5 years to get his first recruiting class through and then everyone can lynch him if he loses to a team like VMI. lol

[TheONLY1]

The starting lineup should be patterson, stevenson, miller, meeks, and liggins. Harris can't dribble the ball and porter just plays to slow. He thinks to much and just doesn't react. The patterson couldn't ever get in a groove is because he was in foul trouble alot of the night from committing stupid fouls. If he gets in foul trouble against UNC UK will get blowed out.

[RavenBoy]

What kills me is that 1 or 2 weeks ago everyone loved him and now he cant coach a lick.

[Panther Thunder]

Tubby wasent fired, Billy G wouldnt have lost last night if it wasent for Tubby and his horrible players he left Billy G.

What would you consider it? Very few coaches would have complied with the outrageoues demands made by the Athl. Dept.

[BlueSky]

Any time you play a senior team that can shoot the 3 watch out

[RavenBoy]

What would you consider it? Very few coaches would have complied with the outrageoues demands made by the Athl. Dept.

He took over the best team and players in the country and left us with the worst players. Billy G or Billy D couldnt do good with those players.
This is his second year at UK. Your blaming the loss on Billy G. When your talking about Tubby your blaming the athletic dept.
Seems like someone is alittle rascist.

Anyways VMI leads the country in steals and 3pts last year and this year.

[Panther Thunder]

He took over the best team and players in the country and left us with the worst players. Billy G or Billy D couldnt do good with those players.
This is his second year at UK. Your blaming the loss on Billy G. When your talking about Tubby your blaming the athletic dept.
Seems like someone is alittle rascist.

Are you kidding me? I thought Tubby got a raw deal. How is that racist? Dick Vitale is now racist? All other who feel the same way are racist? Billy G has some of his players in. You can't tell me that you think VMI had more talent on the floor last night. It was a poor coaching job. We beat UT last year becuase Bruce Pearl, who can recruit, can't coach at ALL. Remind you of anyone? I'm saying you need a good balance, you can't have a guy who can only recruit or a guy that can only coach. If you are lucky enough to get one who can do both, Coach K, Roy Williams etc... Then you are lucky. I'll even take a shot at my school. Leonard Hamilton is one of the best recruiters in the nation, just picked up another 5 star guard yesterday. He hasn't done much with the talent he has been getting.

[OffTheHook]

Total Shocker.

[If...Then]

Sickening

[alfus21]

Tubby wasent fired, Billy G wouldnt have lost last night if it wasent for Tubby and his horrible players he left Billy G.

So your explanation for the loss is that VMI has superior talent to that of what the product is at UK right now? Bullcrap dude. VMI doesn't have any 3-5 star recruits, I'm pretty positive Gardner Webb didn't, or about San Diego last season at Rupp too?

I can pretty much agree with everything Panther Thunder is saying on this thread as well.

There is no excuse in the book to lose this game to VMI at home. Just look at the powerhouse teams that have came in and beat us at Rupp in the young Coach G era. It's an absolute joke.

It's the same stuff as last year that hurts this team (no adjustments on defense) Why as a coach would you NEVER run a zone defense? You're just setting yourself up for failure.

Word has it the team had a hard paced two hour practice before the game as well. Tell me how much sense it makes to run your team ragged before the game against a team that loves to run up and down the floor.

I love UK Basketball and I'll support the team the best I can, but don't expect things to get a lot better in the Billy Gillispie era here. He can recruit pretty good, but if you have no idea what to do with it then you're hurting.

And trust me guys, we have had superior talent to teams like G-Webb, San Diego, and VMI. Who should the blame be put on? You have to have your team prepared for every game. So far BCG hasn't done that, and refuses to make any adjustments.

We have to give him time, but similar to when the hire was made I'm still going to be skeptical about him. I just want to see in game adjustments, and actual coaching.

I do think it is hilarious though that fans on here thought we were amazing after beating a couple of terrible teams in scrimmages while Louisville was squeaking by them, and now everybody knew we weren't that great all along.

We'll get better, but most fans once again had unrealistic expectations coming into the year.

[BCF4L]

It's the same stuff as last year that hurts this team (no adjustments on defense) Why as a coach would you NEVER run a zone defense? You're just setting yourself up for failure.

Dude, I know you know basketball better than this. How are you going to run any kind of effective zone against a team that can nail a 3 as soon as they cross the timeline. You can't run a 3-2 zone when all 5 guys on the court can shoot. You will get killed from the corner with a defense like that. We all know a 2-3 won't work. The most effective defense against a team like VMI is straight up man to man. No help side crap like we ran yesterday. The minute you go to help on defense, you are leaving someone else open for a 3. The best thing to do is to play straight up with no weakside help. The worst thing that can happen is a 2 pointer; and with a 3 point shooting team like VMI, I would be tickled with matching 2's instead of 3's.

[Panther Thunder]

Don't play it the whole game. But play it some. In a zone you get a lot more help and don't have to constantly be running around tiring yourself out. Man wasn't even working, so what evidence does that give to stay in it? Now if you go zone and they beat you worse then by all means go back to Man, but at least try to stop them.

[BCF4L]

Don't play it the whole game. But play it some. In a zone you get a lot more help and don't have to constantly be running around tiring yourself out. Man wasn't even working, so what evidence does that give to stay in it? Now if you go zone and they beat you worse then by all means go back to Man, but at least try to stop them.

That's the problem is the help defense. That's what was killing UK last night. They were playing a sagging man to man with help. When VMI would start to drive, you would have help, and leave a man wide open from the perimeter. That is exactly what a zone defense will give you. The only defense that would have worked last night would have been a man defense with no help. Just play straight up. Anything else would have been an even worse 3 point fest.