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07-28-2008, 09:50 PM
1. Bring more players.
2. Teach them to not throw bats.:dontthink
2. Teach them to not throw bats.:dontthink
07-28-2008, 10:18 PM
jetpilot Wrote:1. Bring more players.
2. Teach them to not throw bats.:dontthink
First off... we DID have another player on the team who WAS NOT allowed to attend due to personal issues.
Secondly, We had 10 players until 1 was injured on the crappy grass hump/roll down the first base line....
Third..... The player did not THROW the bat. He is the most laid back child on the team and he tossed the bat. He did not say anything to the umpire and walked off the field with his head down. SO..... Just so you know... the kids are taught NOT to throw bats, helmets, or anything else for that matter..... and he did not THROW it.... (just so you know!!)
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07-28-2008, 10:36 PM
jetpilot Wrote:1. Bring more players.This is probably one of the umpires lol
2. Teach them to not throw bats.:dontthink
1.Teach umpires how to call games.
2.Teach umpires how to call games.
07-28-2008, 11:05 PM
PiratePride Wrote:This is probably one of the umpires lol
1.Teach umpires how to call games.
2.Teach umpires how to call games.
LMAO!!!!
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07-28-2008, 11:40 PM
jetpilot Wrote:1. Bring more players.
2. Teach them to not throw bats.:dontthink
1. Only comment about stuff you saw!
2. Get over yourself!
07-29-2008, 12:01 AM
jetpilot Wrote:1. Bring more players.This is funny
2. Teach them to not throw bats.:dontthink
07-29-2008, 12:06 AM
Yeah, Pirate Pride, hysterical! LOL
If only he knew what he was talking about....
If only he knew what he was talking about....
07-29-2008, 12:39 AM
PHS95 Wrote:Yeah, Pirate Pride, hysterical! LOL
If only he knew what he was talking about....
You said he didn't throw it, he tossed it. Teach them not to toss bats then.
You are supposed to be taught that your first day of peewee league.
07-29-2008, 12:53 AM
jetpilot Wrote:You said he didn't throw it, he tossed it. Teach them not to toss bats then.
You are supposed to be taught that your first day of peewee league.
Basically, he (the child NOR the coach) is NOT the one(s) to blame here. The umpires already were short fused because of being questioned by one of the coaches over a balk?? or balks??? The 3rd base umpire (and I am NOT exaggerating).... possibly popped a vessel in his neck screaming at the fans. They took out on the kids their frustrations towards the parents. Being impartial is part of calling a good game. IMHO both teams were cheated that night.....
Maybe if he had turned around.... handed the bat to Mr. Umpire ever so nicely and asked him to please give this to the next batter he would have stayed in the game..... NAAA...... they were gonna find a way and he just happened to be the scape goat!!!
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07-29-2008, 12:57 AM
phs1986 Wrote:Basically, he (the child NOR the coach) is NOT the one(s) to blame here. The umpires already were short fused because of being questioned by one of the coaches over a balk?? or balks??? The 3rd base umpire (and I am NOT exaggerating).... possibly popped a vessel in his neck screaming at the fans. They took out on the kids their frustrations towards the parents. Being impartial is part of calling a good game. IMHO both teams were cheated that night.....
Maybe if he had turned around.... handed the bat to Mr. Umpire ever so nicely and asked him to please give this to the next batter he would have stayed in the game..... NAAA...... they were gonna find a way and he just happened to be the scape goat!!!
It still hasn't dawned on you. Teach the players that you NEVER throw, toss, heave, or any other word you want to use, your bat. Simple as that. Everything bad that happened and the kid still doesn't know not to throw his bat.:eek:
07-29-2008, 01:01 AM
jetpilot Wrote:You said he didn't throw it, he tossed it. Teach them not to toss bats then.
You are supposed to be taught that your first day of peewee league.
He has played 11 yrs for LL, 2 travel ball teams, HS JV, and Varsity. It was his 3rd time playing in a State Tournment. Id say hes got the experience AND he's NEVER been thrown out of a game. He is as laid back as they come and If you knew this kid and/or seen the incident then you would know. How do people make a judgement call on something they did not wittness? Its a shame kids have to go through this kind of crap because of immature adults.
07-29-2008, 01:03 AM
jetpilot Wrote:It still hasn't dawned on you. Teach the players that you NEVER throw, toss, heave, or any other word you want to use, your bat. Simple as that. Everything bad that happened and the kid still doesn't know not to throw his bat.:eek:
What the heck do you know about this kid???????
07-29-2008, 01:05 AM
PiratePride Wrote:This is probably one of the umpires lol
1.Teach umpires how to call games.
2.Teach umpires how to call games.
:Clap:
07-29-2008, 01:06 AM
Pirates~R~Us Wrote:He has played 11 yrs for LL, 2 travel ball teams, HS JV, and Varsity. It was his 3rd time playing in a State Tournment. Id say hes got the experience AND he's NEVER been thrown out of a game. He is as laid back as they come and If you knew this kid and/or seen the incident then you would know. How do people make a judgement call on something they did not wittness? Its a shame kids have to go through this kind of crap because of immature adults.
DON'T. THROW. YOUR. BAT.
07-29-2008, 01:10 AM
Pirates~R~Us Wrote:[/color]
What the heck do you know about this kid???????
That he shouldn't throw his bat.
07-29-2008, 01:13 AM
jetpilot Wrote:That he shouldn't throw his bat.
Did you see this happen?
07-29-2008, 01:20 AM
Pirates~R~Us Wrote:Did you see this happen?
People on here said he tossed his bat and the News Express said he slammed his bat down. What did you see?
07-29-2008, 01:37 AM
PiratePride Wrote:Everything was addressed to the umpires our coach appealed to williamsport but the tourney director wouldnt do that. And isnt there supposed to be warnings issued before ejection is ever thought about.
Actually, most umpires when they have their meeting at home plate, will tell you that this is your warning. And. no they don't have to warn you about anything. Most do just as a courtesy. I am not taking sides of anyone. I was just answering the question.
07-29-2008, 01:38 AM
jetpilot Wrote:People on here said he tossed his bat and the News Express said he slammed his bat down. What did you see?The person in the News Express didnt even go to the game.
07-29-2008, 01:51 AM
Pirates~R~Us Wrote:He has played 11 yrs for LL, 2 travel ball teams, HS JV, and Varsity. It was his 3rd time playing in a State Tournment. Id say hes got the experience AND he's NEVER been thrown out of a game. He is as laid back as they come and If you knew this kid and/or seen the incident then you would know. How do people make a judgement call on something they did not wittness? Its a shame kids have to go through this kind of crap because of immature adults.
How is this possible if he is playing as a 14 yr old? :confused: lol
07-29-2008, 01:52 AM
PiratePride Wrote:The person in the News Express didnt even go to the game.
The article was by Justin Holbrook and there are pictures by Justin Holbrook. Again it doesn't matter who was at the game. Is it now your position that the ump made it all up, that the kid didn't throw/toss/heave/slam down his bat????
07-29-2008, 01:57 AM
jetpilot Wrote:The article was by Justin Holbrook and there are pictures by Justin Holbrook. Again it doesn't matter who was at the game. Is it now your position that the ump made it all up, that the kid didn't throw/toss/heave/slam down his bat????I know what happened at the game I was there I was on the field.
07-29-2008, 02:00 AM
PiratePride Wrote:I know what happened at the game I was there I was on the field.
So I will ask a very simple question again that you didn't answer. Is it your position that the kid didn't throw/toss/heave or slam down his bat?
07-29-2008, 02:03 AM
jetpilot Wrote:So I will ask a very simple question again that you didn't answer. Is it your position that the kid didn't throw/toss/heave or slam down his bat?For one thing im not 4
and no but it shouldnt be that umpires either but hes the one getting paid so thats all that matters to him.
Im not saying paid as in cheating.
07-29-2008, 02:13 AM
jetpilot Wrote:So I will ask a very simple question again that you didn't answer. Is it your position that the kid didn't throw/toss/heave or slam down his bat?Justin was at the game.
But what happened was he was called strike three and the walked twoard the dugout and slammed the bat down close to the fence, like almost right at the dugout. Slammed is probably best way to put it. Tossed would be more like a under hand heave lol. I would say toss the kid if he said something or tossed slammed threw whatever it twoard another player direction, because that would have been dumb. But he didn't and the bat was in no harms way. I seen that happen more than once at baseball games, pretty much every game you go to. From my view I thought it was a very bad call and should have never been made. To be honest I really dont even think that what happened deserved a warning. But a warning would be the most it did deserve.
And I never seen a ump get so mad at a coach for questioning a call as the one did on a balk. Sad thing is Belfry's coach was correct, the kid stepped off twoards first instead of back. And the Belfry coach called time and just walked up and asked, like you would go ask anybody a simple question.
A experienced ump would say no coach this is what the rules say and this is what I saw, and not go nuts.
I dont know how experienced the ump was behind the plate, but usualy if things like that happen the ump is pretty young, because a veteraned ump never tries to affect the outcome of the game. Its kind of like a Rookie State Trooper and a vet one. A young one will pull you over for thinking of speeding while the older will give you leadway.
07-29-2008, 02:18 AM
BTW congrats to Bowling Green they were a classy bunch of kids. I don't blame them a bit for taking the victory the way they did, Belfry or any other team would have to. But they did it with much class as possible and were men enough to admit it was wrong and should have never happened. They werent clapping celebrating or nothing, that is a great ammount of class.
07-29-2008, 02:24 AM
Belfry Wins Wrote:Justin was at the game.
But what happened was he was called strike three and the walked twoard the dugout and slammed the bat down close to the fence, like almost right at the dugout. Slammed is probably best way to put it. Tossed would be more like a under hand heave lol. I would say toss the kid if he said something or tossed slammed threw whatever it twoard another player direction, because that would have been dumb. But he didn't and the bat was in no harms way. I seen that happen more than once at baseball games, pretty much every game you go to. From my view I thought it was a very bad call and should have never been made. To be honest I really dont even think that what happened deserved a warning. But a warning would be the most it did deserve.
And I never seen a ump get so mad at a coach for questioning a call as the one did on a balk. Sad thing is Belfry's coach was correct, the kid stepped off twoards first instead of back. And the Belfry coach called time and just walked up and asked, like you would go ask anybody a simple question.
A experienced ump would say no coach this is what the rules say and this is what I saw, and not go nuts.
I dont know how experienced the ump was behind the plate, but usualy if things like that happen the ump is pretty young, because a veteraned ump never tries to affect the outcome of the game. Its kind of like a Rookie State Trooper and a vet one. A young one will pull you over for thinking of speeding while the older will give you leadway.
Sounds like the ump had an agenda and was looking for a reason...I hope those guys stay together and keep playing and go back to state next year. Stay calm and act like the umps aren't even there...London probably won't have the tournament for awhile, which is good. I wasn't picking on the kid, just don't give the umps any reason at all to take it from you...
07-29-2008, 02:54 AM
jetpilot Wrote:Sounds like the ump had an agenda and was looking for a reason...I hope those guys stay together and keep playing and go back to state next year. Stay calm and act like the umps aren't even there...London probably won't have the tournament for awhile, which is good. I wasn't picking on the kid, just don't give the umps any reason at all to take it from you...I agree 100 percent with that. When something happens like it did the half inning before with the ump yelling, you have to say to yourself that you better be very careful. Its sad for the kids, because who knows what would have happened. But best advice to be given is as bad as it stinks take it, because nothing you can do about it, learn from it and move on. Most of all let it grow inside of you the hunger to capture something as big as a state tournament. You guys have proven twice 11-2 and 13-14 that you are amongst the top teams period in Kentucky for your age. Stay together and work hard and by the time you guys are junior and seniors in high school you could really make a mark on Belfry baseball in a way that never has been made before. But in order for that to happen, you have to keep the fire burning and let your desire and work ethic take you beyond what your skills can.
07-29-2008, 08:45 AM
Belfry Wins Wrote:I agree 100 percent with that. When something happens like it did the half inning before with the ump yelling, you have to say to yourself that you better be very careful. Its sad for the kids, because who knows what would have happened. But best advice to be given is as bad as it stinks take it, because nothing you can do about it, learn from it and move on. Most of all let it grow inside of you the hunger to capture something as big as a state tournament. You guys have proven twice 11-2 and 13-14 that you are amongst the top teams period in Kentucky for your age. Stay together and work hard and by the time you guys are junior and seniors in high school you could really make a mark on Belfry baseball in a way that never has been made before. But in order for that to happen, you have to keep the fire burning and let your desire and work ethic take you beyond what your skills can.
:thumpsup: :thumpsup:
07-29-2008, 09:45 AM
Belfry Wins Wrote:But best advice to be given is as bad as it stinks take it, because nothing you can do about it, learn from it and move on. Most of all let it grow inside of you the hunger to capture something as big as a state tournament. You guys have proven twice 11-2 and 13-14 that you are amongst the top teams period in Kentucky for your age. Stay together and work hard and by the time you guys are junior and seniors in high school you could really make a mark on Belfry baseball in a way that never has been made before. But in order for that to happen, you have to keep the fire burning and let your desire and work ethic take you beyond what your skills can.
This is the attitude that everyone needs to take, adults and kids alike. The entire event was terrible to experience but it's over and time to move on. We all need to learn the lessons that this experience taught us. There are bigger and better things in store for Belfry baseball!
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