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12-12-2007, 11:30 AM
DevilsWin Wrote:That's pure insanity. Rudy is the only person in the entire field that knows less about Foreign Policy than Bush did in 2000. He's flip flopped on nearly every issue and his lifestyle is as hypocritical as they come. Giuliani is like Bush ver 2.0 but with less experience. His judgement in choosing personel is the worst, whether it be his wives or his Police Commisioners. Choose Rudy in the Primary and the Democrats could elect Moth-Man if they choose.
I agree with everything you said except for the first and last sentences.
Rudy polls better than anyone else in nationwide polls for the GE. Thats a fact. Whether he's the best or not is debateable, but its 'insanity' to say that he's not the best hope for the republican party. I personally would rather have Lucifer in the Whitehouse. But if I'm wanting a republican in there, its going to have to be Rudy.
Poll after poll after poll shows that Rudy is our last 'best hope'.
Huckabee. He's the most liberal republican since Nelson Rockafeller. He's a RINO.
The only thing going for him is his tax plan. The FairTax. By far the greatest program ever.
12-12-2007, 11:32 AM
DevilsWin Wrote:That's pure insanity. Rudy is the only person in the entire field that knows less about Foreign Policy than Bush did in 2000. He's flip flopped on nearly every issue and his lifestyle is as hypocritical as they come. Giuliani is like Bush ver 2.0 but with less experience. His judgement in choosing personel is the worst, whether it be his wives or his Police Commisioners. Choose Rudy in the Primary and the Democrats could elect Moth-Man if they choose.
Just curious, you say that Rudy knows less about foreign policy than anyone else. Where did Huckabee, Romney, etc... get their foreign policy experience from? What IS there foreign policy?
Its posts like this that destroy your credibility. And your manic obsession with disagreeing with me is becoming somewhat alarming. :confused:
12-12-2007, 11:33 AM
ronald_reagan Wrote:I agree with everything you said except for the first and last sentences.
Rudy polls better than anyone else in nationwide polls for the GE. Thats a fact. Whether he's the best or not is debateable, but its 'insanity' to say that he's not the best hope for the republican party. I personally would rather have Lucifer in the Whitehouse. But if I'm wanting a republican in there, its going to have to be Rudy.
Poll after poll after poll shows that Rudy is our last 'best hope'.
Huckabee. He's the most liberal republican since Nelson Rockafeller. He's a RINO.
The only thing going for him is his tax plan. The FairTax. By far the greatest program ever.
Exactly, I'm a Democrat and I'd vote for Huckabee if Edwards didn't get the nomination.
12-12-2007, 11:36 AM
DevilsWin Wrote:Exactly, I'm a Democrat and I'd vote for Huckabee if Edwards didn't get the nomination.
I'm a democrat too.
12-12-2007, 11:37 AM
ronald_reagan Wrote:Oh no you're not. You are a spy.:p
I'm a democrat too.
12-12-2007, 11:39 AM
DevilsWin Wrote:Oh no you're not. You are a spy.:p
I've done it before... thats a fact.
12-12-2007, 11:50 AM
As the CATO institute has said... if you liked "Dubya"........ you'll LOVE Huckabee.
12-12-2007, 11:53 AM
ronald_reagan Wrote:I've done it before... thats a fact.Done what?
12-12-2007, 12:02 PM
DevilsWin Wrote: Done what?
"spied"
its part of my job.
12-12-2007, 12:35 PM
Never send a Ferret to do a Weasel's job, right?
12-12-2007, 12:41 PM
:rockon:
DevilsWin Wrote:Never send a Ferret to do a Weasel's job, right?
12-12-2007, 12:50 PM
Well, Im a Republican, and Ill be honest..I'd be dissapointed with Rudy in the White House..I dont like his morals, and his past lifestyle points that out..he doesnt have any standards. Now I know that politicians arent known for the standards that they carry into the White House, but for ME, in order to get my vote, I will cast it for someone who carries moral weight..Yes, Rudy was a huge figure during 9/11, but Im still not sold on his politics and his John Kerry wishy-washy ways of changing his mind on important matters either..I respect John McCain for being a Vietnam Veteran, for being a POW, and he's a good man, but I dont like his politics. Im hoping Fred Thompson will make a huge surge from now until then, and solidifies a solid candidate, until then though, it looks bleak. On the Democratic side, the only one I'd even consider voting for is John Edwards, and thats it..I wasnt a fan of Hillary when she ran the country for 8 years then, and my opinion of her hasnt changed now, lol.. and Obama, oh please..
12-12-2007, 01:03 PM
TidesHoss32 Wrote:Well, Im a Republican, and Ill be honest..I'd be dissapointed with Rudy in the White House..I dont like his morals, and his past lifestyle points that out..he doesnt have any standards. Now I know that politicians arent known for the standards that they carry into the White House, but for ME, in order to get my vote, I will cast it for someone who carries moral weight..Yes, Rudy was a huge figure during 9/11, but Im still not sold on his politics and his John Kerry wishy-washy ways of changing his mind on important matters either..I respect John McCain for being a Vietnam Veteran, for being a POW, and he's a good man, but I dont like his politics. Im hoping Fred Thompson will make a huge surge from now until then, and solidifies a solid candidate, until then though, it looks bleak. On the Democratic side, the only one I'd even consider voting for is John Edwards, and thats it..I wasnt a fan of Hillary when she ran the country for 8 years then, and my opinion of her hasnt changed now, lol.. and Obama, oh please..
I agree. Rudy would be a disaster for the republican party... He's a liberal nor'easter.
However, I'd pick him over any candidate the democrats could ever come up with. John Edwards could die a horrible death, and no tears would be shed on my part. He's a pure communist that seeks socialization of our nation. He makes Rudy look like Barry Goldwater.
12-12-2007, 01:33 PM
ronald_reagan Wrote:I agree. Rudy would be a disaster for the republican party... He's a liberal nor'easter.I was basically saying that if a Democrat made it to the White House, I'd much rather have him than Hillary or Obama..
However, I'd pick him over any candidate the democrats could ever come up with. John Edwards could die a horrible death, and no tears would be shed on my part. He's a pure communist that seeks socialization of our nation. He makes Rudy look like Barry Goldwater.
12-12-2007, 01:33 PM
ronald_reagan Wrote:I agree. Rudy would be a disaster for the republican party... He's a liberal nor'easter.
However, I'd pick him over any candidate the democrats could ever come up with. John Edwards could die a horrible death, and no tears would be shed on my part. He's a pure communist that seeks socialization of our nation. He makes Rudy look like Barry Goldwater.
You couldn't be more wrong or misleading. You sound like Tucker Carlson.
12-12-2007, 04:32 PM
DevilsWin Wrote:You couldn't be more wrong or misleading. You sound like Tucker Carlson.
Tucker You should have went with Pat B, thats who I feel most like.
I'll say it once more... John Edwards is closer to Lenin than Marx was.
12-12-2007, 04:34 PM
Show us Edwards conservative views, dw. You might convert me.
12-12-2007, 05:05 PM
Liberalism doesn't equate to Communisim any more or less than Conservatism equates to Fascism.
Now lets quit the cheap shots Gipper and find some common ground to build on.
Whadda ya Say?
:High5: The choice is yours:yesno:
Now lets quit the cheap shots Gipper and find some common ground to build on.
Whadda ya Say?
:High5: The choice is yours:yesno:
12-12-2007, 05:33 PM
DevilsWin Wrote:Liberalism doesn't equate to Communisim any more or less than Conservatism equates to Fascism.
Now lets quit the cheap shots Gipper and find some common ground to build on.
Whadda ya Say?
:High5: The choice is yours:yesno:
You're exactly right. Fascism is socialism as well. Stalin and Hitler would agree on many things.
The correct comparison would be conservatism and Chilean Government Junta.
Fascism is built on the foundation of socialism. Those who try to compare fascism with conservatism have been watching too many moveon.org commercials.
12-12-2007, 05:57 PM
ronald_reagan Wrote:You're exactly right. Fascism is socialism as well. Stalin and Hitler would agree on many things.You're just wrong on this one. Thought you knew your Political Science.................
The correct comparison would be conservatism and Chilean Government Junta.
Fascism is built on the foundation of socialism. Those who try to compare fascism with conservatism have been watching too many moveon.org commercials.
12-12-2007, 11:20 PM
DevilsWin Wrote: You're just wrong on this one. Thought you knew your Political Science.................
Thanks for your explanation.
Go read the 25 points. Read the Nazi party platform. Read Mein Kempf. All 3 openly call for nationalization, for land restribution, profit sharing, old age pension, the end to 'unearned' income, a strong public education and cultural grooming, authortarian power, objection to classical liberal economics.....
12-13-2007, 12:30 AM
My vote will go like this..
Rep:
Mitt Romney
Mike Huckabee
Fred Thompson
Ron Paul
Rudy Guliani
Dem:
John Edwards
Barack Obama
____________ write in anyone here lol
Hilary Clinton-main last
I am a registered democrat, but after seeing this poor showing for the upcoming presidency.. I think I will change to Republican. The democrats dont have anyone worth voting for.
My final vote?.. I will be voting for Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee if either make it, Also if Fred Thompson makes it. I wouldn't vote for a woman president no matter what.
Rep:
Mitt Romney
Mike Huckabee
Fred Thompson
Ron Paul
Rudy Guliani
Dem:
John Edwards
Barack Obama
____________ write in anyone here lol
Hilary Clinton-main last
I am a registered democrat, but after seeing this poor showing for the upcoming presidency.. I think I will change to Republican. The democrats dont have anyone worth voting for.
My final vote?.. I will be voting for Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee if either make it, Also if Fred Thompson makes it. I wouldn't vote for a woman president no matter what.
12-13-2007, 12:36 AM
mrfootball03 Wrote:My vote will go like this..Romney has done more flip flops than Marry Lou Retton. How can you support a guy that changes his mind on issues like Madonna changes costumes at a concert.
Rep:
Mitt Romney
Mike Huckabee
Fred Thompson
Ron Paul
Rudy Guliani
Dem:
John Edwards
Barack Obama
____________ write in anyone here lol
Hilary Clinton-main last
I am a registered democrat, but after seeing this poor showing for the upcoming presidency.. I think I will change to Republican. The democrats dont have anyone worth voting for.
My final vote?.. I will be voting for Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee if either make it, Also if Fred Thompson makes it. I wouldn't vote for a woman president no matter what.
If he had decided to run for re-election as governor he would be on the opposite side of nearly all the issues.
12-13-2007, 12:40 AM
DevilsWin Wrote:Romney has done more flip flops than Marry Lou Retton. How can you support a guy that changes his mind on issues like Madonna changes costumes at a concert.
If he had decided to run for re-election as governor he would be on the opposite side of nearly all the issues.
:Thumbs:
12-13-2007, 12:43 AM
ronald_reagan Wrote:Thanks for your explanation.Yes they both are extremely nationalistic, and totalitarian. The National Socialists concentrate all the power and wealth under the ruling class. If you're not Blond haired and Blue eyed you get nothing.
Go read the 25 points. Read the Nazi party platform. Read Mein Kempf. All 3 openly call for nationalization, for land restribution, profit sharing, old age pension, the end to 'unearned' income, a strong public education and cultural grooming, authortarian power, objection to classical liberal economics.....
Communism on the other hand not Stalin-ism distributes all the money equally amongst everyone but most importantly the working class.
Similar in some ways, yet polar opposites in others.
Bourgeoisie vs Proletariat
12-13-2007, 12:47 AM
DevilsWin Wrote:Yes they both are extremely nationalistic, and totalitarian. The National Socialists concentrate all the power and wealth under the ruling class. If you're not Blond haired and Blue eyed you get nothing.
Communism on the other hand not Stalin-ism distributes all the money equally amongst everyone but most importantly the working class.
Similar in some ways, yet polar opposites in others.
Bourgeoisie vs Proletariat
Go read the 25 points and the Nazi Platform. Then post again. You're getting closer to the truth.
12-13-2007, 12:54 AM
ronald_reagan Wrote:Go read the 25 points and the Nazi Platform. Then post again. You're getting closer to the truth.I have already read them.
12-13-2007, 12:56 AM
The Central Goverment gives out Huge Contracts to Private Companies that do the bidding of the Central Government. Isn't that what I've been saying all along.
12-13-2007, 01:03 AM
DevilsWin Wrote:The Central Goverment gives out Huge Contracts to Private Companies that do the bidding of the Central Government. Isn't that what I've been saying all along.
No.
And thats not what I've been talking about anyways.
I made a point that you disagreed with, but now agree. Fascism is BASED on socialism. Its socialistic in nature.
Central banks.
Abolishing unearned income.
Public education.
Property redistristibution.
Profit sharing.
Creating 'classes' of people.
Rejection of classical liberal economics and free markets.
Price Control.
etc.
12-13-2007, 01:08 AM
ronald_reagan Wrote:No.I'll agree that is had socialistic traits but I wouldn't say a socialistic base.
And thats not what I've been talking about anyways.
I made a point that you disagreed with, but now agree. Fascism is BASED on socialism. Its socialistic in nature.
Central banks.
Abolishing unearned income.
Public education.
Property redistristibution.
Profit sharing.
Creating 'classes' of people.
Rejection of classical liberal economics and free markets.
Price Control.
etc.
And BTW since you're a Duke Fan. Nothing you say matters anyway.
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