[Coach]

A hard fought game by the Pirates but too much Gilbert in this one. I was extremely impressed by the Lions. They are only a single A team but except possibly Paintsville or Shelby Valley, in my opinion no team in the 15th region could stand a reasonable chance of beating this team. They were simply a better team than the Pirates. They were also a big team. Belfry played good defense as usual and forced alot of turnovers but couldn't capitalize on them. Belfry missed alot of layups again also. But the biggest factor in the game was just Gilbert's size. I don't know the final rebound totals or anything but I would venture to say that Gilbert doubled up Belfry's rebounds at least. I can remember 3 possessions in particular where they had to pick up like 5 offensive rebounds at in the same possession before finally scoring. Belfry just could not get rebounds and Gilbert was also very impressive on defense.

[Belfry Wins]

41-to 15 was rebounding total. Birchfield had 17. Gilbert is underated at 3 in WV. In my opinion Gilbert would win the 15th and that is no knock at anybody. Scary thing is Jeremy Brown is their only Senior. Jerry Miller, Gilbers coach is a class act. Belfry didnt play well, but Gilbert was the better team. Gilbert not only has size, but they are all fast and handle the ball well. Case led Belfry with 22.

[-STAT-]

Congrats Gilbert.

[Belfry Wins]

By the way Gilbert is 7-0 on the year, and has yet to play a close ballgame. Tonight was their closest game of the year. Gilbert went on a 21-0 run in the first half, but Belfr cut it to 5 by halftime.

[mrfootball03]

By the way Gilbert is 7-0 on the year, and has yet to play a close ballgame. Tonight was their closest game of the year. Gilbert went on a 21-0 run in the first half, but Belfr cut it to 5 by halftime.

It was a 26-1 run...
Belfry came out with a 15-4 lead, and Gilbert jumped back to take a 30-16 lead...

IMO, you guys are overhyping Gilbert... They are a good team no doubt, but they really arn't underrated at No. 3 in WV Class A.. They stand no chance of beating Charleston Catholic, or Wheeling Central Cathlolic..

Gilberts big man is OK at best.. He doesn't do anything on defense, and can't make layups unless they are uncontested on the offensive end.. He is supposed to be 6'8.. He shoud have had a 20 points, 15 or so rebounds tonight.. He didn't.. He isn't that good..

What tonights outcame boiled down to is Belfry didn't come to play, and alot of bad coaching errors.. When a team goes on 26-1 run.. its only common sense that you call a timeout.. Randy once again blunders.. IMHO, I believe that was the major turning point in the game..
Belfrys players got discouraged from that point on..
It was an off night for Jamie Case, and no one else on the team can step up offensively.. ESPECIALLY the post players...
Belfry's post play is going to have to step up if the Pirates are going to make a run at the 15th Region Championship.. Right now they are not going to get it done..

As for the comment made above about Paintsville having a shot, I do not think Paintsville is a better team than Belfry.. After watching Paintsville, I have come to the conclusion Belfry is the better team..

[mrfootball03]

41-to 15 was rebounding total. Birchfield had 17. Gilbert is underated at 3 in WV. In my opinion Gilbert would win the 15th and that is no knock at anybody. Scary thing is Jeremy Brown is their only Senior. Jerry Miller, Gilbers coach is a class act. Belfry didnt play well, but Gilbert was the better team. Gilbert not only has size, but they are all fast and handle the ball well. Case led Belfry with 22.

Of all the rebounds the big man had, were mostly offensive rebouds, Gilbert
couldn't seem to get the ball to go in the whole down low. There were several different periods where they missed 4 or 5 layups in one possesion.. A guy that
big should be drop stepping and taking it up strong.. Someone needs to show this cat some video of Patrick Patterson.. I say he is OK at best, because he could be so much better.. Hes just soft, and doesn't use his size.. But regardless, at 6'8 hes going to alter shots.. So you can't blame them for using him.. He just needs to develope his game more

[Playboy5]

I said Gilbert by 12..Oh well, lol...Congrats to both!

[BelfryJustice]

I think most of us saw this one coming. Gilbert is the better team.

:igiveup:

[Coach]

I dunno..I watched Paintsville and Spring Valley yesterday and I was impressed. When they really locked down on defense it was something to see. And they do have more than one person that can score. That is whats killing Belfry..Belfry plays excellent defense, but other than Case, nobody else on the team can consistantly score. Justin Steele showed some signs at times tonight and Broodie Reed also but once again they didn't show any consistant play. Case didn't have a bad game really. He did have to throw up some three's at the end. But it seemed to me that for a while there Belfry was attempting to run plays and get the ball to other players. And that is what they'll need to win the region. But those other players must produce.

[kyr450]

I dunno..I watched Paintsville and Spring Valley yesterday and I was impressed. When they really locked down on defense it was something to see. And they do have more than one person that can score. That is whats killing Belfry..Belfry plays excellent defense, but other than Case, nobody else on the team can consistantly score. Justin Steele showed some signs at times tonight and Broodie Reed also but once again they didn't show any consistant play. Case didn't have a bad game really. He did have to throw up some three's at the end. But it seemed to me that for a while there Belfry was attempting to run plays and get the ball to other players. And that is what they'll need to win the region. But those other players must produce.

Case had 26, I dont really see how that is an off night, when Gilbert went on the 26-1 run it was basically case him self that got them back with in 5... I dont think Belfry was running plays to get the ball to other players, the fact is you have players on the team that dont want Jamie getting the ball and scoring, an until these players get there heads out of there asses an realize they have to utilize Case in everyway they can, Belfry isnt going to grow to the team they can be. They are some talented athletes on the team but if they dont stop being selfish, Belfry will not win the region... They can if they learn to play team ball an utilize the Best player in the 15th region...

[mrfootball03]

Case had 26, I dont really see how that is an off night, when Gilbert went on the 26-1 run it was basically case him self that got them back with in 5... I dont think Belfry was running plays to get the ball to other players, the fact is you have players on the team that dont want Jamie getting the ball and scoring, an until these players get there heads out of there asses an realize they have to utilize Case in everyway they can, Belfry isnt going to grow to the team they can be. They are some talented athletes on the team but if they dont stop being selfish, Belfry will not win the region... They can if they learn to play team ball an utilize the Best player in the 15th region...

Case had 22, that came from the official score keeper.. I didn't say Case had a bad night, just an off night.. As the team is right now, Belfry needs about 30 from Jamie in order to be successful.. If other players from the team would step up, you wouldn't need 30 from Jamie.. But you simply do not have the offensive fire power right now to depend on anyone else.. The reason I say Case had an off night, is that his percentage wasn't particular well.. Also, Case usually does a great job of getting other players involved and keeping the offense going.. but in this game, it looked like everyone was just standing there.. In shock of getting punched in the mouth after they came out to 15-4 lead.. Randy should have called a timeout somewhere at the beginning of that 26-1 run, and regrouped everyone.. And just like I have said time & time again, Belfry needs some role players.. Someone who can step up & hit shots.. Justin Steele & Dustin May shows signs at times, but arn't consistent.. In order for this team to reach success in the 15th, someone other than just Jamie is going to have step up..

[Showtime_05]

with about 30 seconds to go Gilbert was just letting Case shoot wide open layups and he got around 6 pts from that..

[kyr450]

with about 30 seconds to go Gilbert was just letting Case shoot wide open layups and he got around 6 pts from that..

Your point???

[Coach]

Case had 26, I dont really see how that is an off night, when Gilbert went on the 26-1 run it was basically case him self that got them back with in 5... I dont think Belfry was running plays to get the ball to other players, the fact is you have players on the team that dont want Jamie getting the ball and scoring, an until these players get there heads out of there asses an realize they have to utilize Case in everyway they can, Belfry isnt going to grow to the team they can be. They are some talented athletes on the team but if they dont stop being selfish, Belfry will not win the region... They can if they learn to play team ball an utilize the Best player in the 15th region...

I dont know how selfish Belfry's players are or anything like that. I don't remember too many times that Case is open and they don't get it to him. The other players have to shoot some. I just wish they'd start producing. I agree that Jamie Case might be the best in the region..but if he shoots the ball everytime Belfry will lose. A great player can win a game, but a team wins championships. Even if Belfry's role players continue to screw up they still need to keep shooting because that is what it will take to win. In order for Belfry to have a chance in the region, Steele, May, and Reed must step up and produce. So far they really haven't. But if they dont shoot at all and they give it up and let Case shoot everytime than opposing defenses will shut him down. I don't remember Case calling for the ball any and not getting it. I understand the frustration that people are feeling at Belfry's games when our role players are missing layups time and time again. But we all have to hope they'll step it up because those layups are still much better shots than the 3 or 4 3's a game Case launches from 8 feet behind the arc. He can take it to the rim anytime he wants. I think he should concentrate more on that. He can get the other team in foul trouble..get layups for himself or free throws...and when the defense collapses on him he can get open shots for others.

[HARLEY]

with about 30 seconds to go Gilbert was just letting Case shoot wide open layups and he got around 6 pts from that..

Was we at the same game? With about 3 minutes to go Gilbert backed the ball out and held it, ran there offense as long as they could, then when Belfry came out to guard them, they drove to the bucket and shoot layups. I never did see them give an open lane to Case. I remeber one layup late in the fourth that Case made. Belfry stopped fouling at about 20 seconds. Gilbert shot a layup. The ball was given to Case and Randy told him to hold it. Case works his but off to get shots. That is why he has to shot deep 3's. It is hard for him to get open behind the arc.
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[HARLEY]

Case had 26, I dont really see how that is an off night, when Gilbert went on the 26-1 run it was basically case him self that got them back with in 5... I dont think Belfry was running plays to get the ball to other players, the fact is you have players on the team that dont want Jamie getting the ball and scoring, an until these players get there heads out of there asses an realize they have to utilize Case in everyway they can, Belfry isnt going to grow to the team they can be. They are some talented athletes on the team but if they dont stop being selfish, Belfry will not win the region... They can if they learn to play team ball an utilize the Best player in the 15th region...

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Come to the game before you make a judgement. Case for sure did not have his best night. He did end up with 22 but missed alot of shots he usually makes. He should have had 30. Steele and Case both are struggling behind the arc. Both are capable of hitting 5 to 6 threes a game. In the summer they did. I don't know if they have lost confidence or if it is the weight lifting. Case would rather score 10 and win the region than score 30 and lose. He knows other players has to score. He played on Brad Lowes team growing up and was always second in scoring. Matt Maynard was leading scorer last year. He does not have a problem with that. But until other players start hitting there shots he has to shot to keep the game close. May has been playing with a cracked rib since the Tolsia game. He is very capable of scoring 20 a game. I just hope it all comes together before Region.

[kyr450]

I dont know how selfish Belfry's players are or anything like that. I don't remember too many times that Case is open and they don't get it to him. The other players have to shoot some. I just wish they'd start producing. I agree that Jamie Case might be the best in the region..but if he shoots the ball everytime Belfry will lose. A great player can win a game, but a team wins championships. Even if Belfry's role players continue to screw up they still need to keep shooting because that is what it will take to win. In order for Belfry to have a chance in the region, Steele, May, and Reed must step up and produce. So far they really haven't. But if they dont shoot at all and they give it up and let Case shoot everytime than opposing defenses will shut him down. I don't remember Case calling for the ball any and not getting it. I understand the frustration that people are feeling at Belfry's games when our role players are missing layups time and time again. But we all have to hope they'll step it up because those layups are still much better shots than the 3 or 4 3's a game Case launches from 8 feet behind the arc. He can take it to the rim anytime he wants. I think he should concentrate more on that. He can get the other team in foul trouble..get layups for himself or free throws...and when the defense collapses on him he can get open shots for others.

Case averages between 13 an 15 shots per game, he has to shoot it a few more times than that...

[mrfootball03]

Case averages between 13 an 15 shots per game, he has to shoot it a few more times than that...

Why does he have to?..
You can't depend on one person.. Or else a team can shut Case down, and spread the game wide open..

[.B.A.L.L.I.N.]

Why does he have to?..
You can't depend on one person.. Or else a team can shut Case down, and spread the game wide open..

The thing is, if the other players on the team are not producing, then yes you do have to depend on the player that is getting the job done...

[mrfootball03]

The thing is, if the other players on the team are not producing, then yes you do have to depend on the player that is getting the job done...

Well.. thats when the coach comes in.. If you can't get the best out of players, your not doing your job..

If the players on the court arn't producing, you either figure out what you have to do, to get it happening, or you put someone else on the floor

[warriorpride]

Congrats to too Lions.

[Showtime_05]

Case averages between 13 an 15 shots per game, he has to shoot it a few more times than that...

:thatsfunn you have got to be kidding

[NYY10]

sucks to see a WV team beat one of our mountain teams

[HARLEY]

Well.. thats when the coach comes in.. If you can't get the best out of players, your not doing your job..

If the players on the court arn't producing, you either figure out what you have to do, to get it happening, or you put someone else on the floor

What you are seeing in a game may be the best some players have to offer. A coach can not make adjustments if a guy can not catch the ball or make a layup 2 out of 3 times. Those are things a high school player should be able to do. We all know Belfry's bench is week. We lost three great sophmore players this season. Two transfered and one just decided he didn't not want to play. They would have helped and played alot this year. I would love to know who you are going to put on the court instead of the players that are playing. Most Freshmen and Sophmore's are physically not strong enough to play on the Varisty level. We only have two Juniors that don't get much playing time. So once again who you going to play.

[mrfootball03]

What you are seeing in a game may be the best some players have to offer. A coach can not make adjustments if a guy can not catch the ball or make a layup 2 out of 3 times. Those are things a high school player should be able to do. We all know Belfry's bench is week. We lost three great sophmore players this season. Two transfered and one just decided he didn't not want to play. They would have helped and played alot this year. I would love to know who you are going to put on the court instead of the players that are playing. Most Freshmen and Sophmore's are physically not strong enough to play on the Varisty level. We only have two Juniors that don't get much playing time. So once again who you going to play.

Yes, what your saying all correct.. But, Some of these players do have more to offer.. You know Justin Steele, & Dustin May can do better.. They are just going to have to step up.. They are a vital part of this team..

[kyr450]

:thatsfunn you have got to be kidding

No I am not kidding, you Mr. West has everyones official stats, as of the Gilbert game wich was the last game played, Case is averaging 14.1 shots per game... Know what you are talking about before you post... Case is also averaging 25.1 points per game wich is 8th in the state accourding to khsaa.org///

[kyr450]

Yes, what your saying all correct.. But, Some of these players do have more to offer.. You know Justin Steele, & Dustin May can do better.. They are just going to have to step up.. They are a vital part of this team..

My point exactly, but until these players step it up, an play like they can they are going to have to give Case the ball more, and let him carry the team like he can. When Belfry is down in the fourththey always seem to get him the ball more. an Case is going to have to drive to the hole more, he started out doing it alot in the first few games, but he has kinda went away from it so much an making unnessasary passes... With Brodie quiting the team, I see Chad Steele moving into the starting possition, Chad can bring alot to the table for the Pirates, if he can stay out of foul trouble...

[HARLEY]

Yes, what your saying all correct.. But, Some of these players do have more to offer.. You know Justin Steele, & Dustin May can do better.. They are just going to have to step up.. They are a vital part of this team..

I agree 100%.

[mrfootball03]

My point exactly, but until these players step it up, an play like they can they are going to have to give Case the ball more, and let him carry the team like he can. When Belfry is down in the fourththey always seem to get him the ball more. an Case is going to have to drive to the hole more, he started out doing it alot in the first few games, but he has kinda went away from it so much an making unnessasary passes... With Brodie quiting the team, I see Chad Steele moving into the starting possition, Chad can bring alot to the table for the Pirates, if he can stay out of foul trouble...

I dunno?.. I love Chad to death.. But I just don't think he has the skill to contribute anything major.. He can do better than what hes been doing, but he just lacks alot of skill.. Don't get me wrong.. I love this kid, hes a good kid.. Basketball just isn't his sport.. But he does have really good size, he just needs to learn how to use it.. He can help tho, and in order to make a run at the 15th title, hes going to have to

[Showtime_05]

I dunno?.. I love Chad to death.. But I just don't think he has the skill to contribute anything major.. He can do better than what hes been doing, but he just lacks alot of skill.. Don't get me wrong.. I love this kid, hes a good kid.. Basketball just isn't his sport.. But he does have really good size, he just needs to learn how to use it.. He can help tho, and in order to make a run at the 15th title, hes going to have to

I agree..