[SValley Fan]

WYMT Boys' Mountain Top Ten
Week 5: 12/29/06
Boys

1. South Laurel
2. Bell County
3. Shelby Valley
4. Hazard
5. Paintsville
6. Breathitt Co.
7. June Buchanan
8. Belfry
9. Clay Co.
10. Cumberland

[blackcatforever]

don't think hazard should have moved as far up and jbs moved so far down. understandable though i suppose. paintsville before breathitt... right now maybe, but not for long IMO.

[Panther#42]

Belfry should NOT be on the Top Ten, what happened to Pikeville?

[Moe]

Belfry should NOT be on the Top Ten, what happened to Pikeville?

Thats what I was thinking, replace Belfry with Pikeville, and Switch Clay Co and JBS and I would take it.

[Survivor]

don't think hazard should have moved as far up and jbs moved so far down. understandable though i suppose. paintsville before breathitt... right now maybe, but not for long IMO.

JBS has been overrated IMO. This looks about right. Hazard beat two good teams in Lexington (Madison Cent and Lafayette) and JBS lost big to two teams no better than the two Hazard beat, so that's why Hazard moved up and JBS dropped. IMO JBS cannot beat Hazard or Breathitt.

[Hoops Lover]

Why should Belfry not be in?? Going into today they had won 5 in a row...and Pikeville was destroyed by Milwaukee South last night...only scored 28 points...basing it on the Belfry-Pikeville game from two weeks ago?? Belfry is a TOTALLY different team than they were then...anyone who has seen them will tell you that..

[bball fan]

Why should Belfry not be in?? Going into today they had won 5 in a row...and Pikeville was destroyed by Milwaukee South last night...only scored 28 points...basing it on the Belfry-Pikeville game from two weeks ago?? Belfry is a TOTALLY different team than they were then...anyone who has seen them will tell you that..

Belfry and Pikeville are pretty even teams. Either one of them could be in the mountain top ten. But to compare them using the Milwaukee team is not fair. Pikeville played them without Tim Honaker. That is like Belfry playing them without Jamie case. I doubt if Belfry could have scored 28 against them without Case. Case is the only player for the Pirates that has a clue on the offensive end!!

[Hoops Lover]

Honaker is Pikeville's best player....without a doubt...but after the first quarter they seemed not to play as hard as I have seen them in the past.

[bball fan]

Honaker is Pikeville's best player....without a doubt...but after the first quarter they seemed not to play as hard as I have seen them in the past.

Very true!!

[3 points]

JBS has been overrated IMO. This looks about right. Hazard beat two good teams in Lexington (Madison Cent and Lafayette) and JBS lost big to two teams no better than the two Hazard beat, so that's why Hazard moved up and JBS dropped. IMO JBS cannot beat Hazard or Breathitt.

I didn't see KCC in there at all. Whats your opinion on that?

[warriorpride]

looks good to me.

[mrfootball03]

Belfry does deserve to be in the top 10.. Right now, Pikeville isn't too great..
Maybe when they get Honaker back.. then they can get back in the top 10.. But as of right now.. Pikeville isn't & shouldn't be the top 10. Right now, Belfry is better than Pikeville.

[mrfootball03]

Belfry and Pikeville are pretty even teams. Either one of them could be in the mountain top ten. But to compare them using the Milwaukee team is not fair. Pikeville played them without Tim Honaker. That is like Belfry playing them without Jamie case. I doubt if Belfry could have scored 28 against them without Case. Case is the only player for the Pirates that has a clue on the offensive end!!

Not true. Dustin May, Justin Steele has stepped up for Belfry since they play Pikeville..

[bball fan]

Belfry does deserve to be in the top 10.. Right now, Pikeville isn't too great..
Maybe when they get Honaker back.. then they can get back in the top 10.. But as of right now.. Pikeville isn't & shouldn't be the top 10. Right now, Belfry is better than Pikeville.

Obviously!!! As I said earlier, Pikeville's best player is out. Who would be the better team if Case was out right now for Belfry?? DUH!! The only way to compare the two teams is head-to-head match-ups when they were full strength..........Pikeville 61 Belfry 57

[bball fan]

Not true. Dustin May, Justin Steele has stepped up for Belfry since they play Pikeville..

I watched these two play about 3 hours ago and the way they shoot the ball I am not sure where they are stepping up!! Case is the whole show for the Pirates right now. You couldn't lock the rest of them up all night in the gym and score 20 points!! However, Pikeville is struggling without Honaker as well, so let's drop the Pikeville/Belfry talk. They don't play again so what's the use to compare them at this point in the season??

[Hoops Lover]

They didn't play well today I agree...but they have ben playing well as of late...they both have scored in double digits in many of the last few games...May is averaging around 13-14ppg...he is still getting the football out of him...his best basketball is ahead of him..as is Steele's...

[mrfootball03]

Obviously!!! As I said earlier, Pikeville's best player is out. Who would be the better team if Case was out right now for Belfry?? DUH!! The only way to compare the two teams is head-to-head match-ups when they were full strength..........Pikeville 61 Belfry 57

Belfry was not full strength hoss!!
Belfry was without Chad Steele.. get your facts right cat!

[NYY10]

Shelby Valley should move up to #2 after beating Bell Co last night

[EKY Sportster]

No offense intended, but IMO Bell and SV are not the 2 and 3 teams in the mountains. Both teams have great records but little in the way of competitive schedules to-date.

Until proven differently, I would put Paintsville, Hazard, JBS, Belfry and Pikeville at full strength of course against SV or Bell Co. any day.

[#1TigerFan]

How is SV rated above Paintsville or any other 15th team?

Before the SV faithful jump on this post, I admit they are pretty good and look promising over the next few years. I also know the players don't schedule the games, but with their cupcake/pansy schedule, how are they rated above teams who have played REAL competition in bigger tourneys. At this point, I would rate JC above SV despite their current losing streak just b/c of the teams they've played. And trust me, it KILLS me to say that.

[the hustler]

shelby valley is probably a 15 to 20 point better team than johnson central and will prove it in the future. as for paintsville, they obviously have a nice team and will be a great matchup with sv, probably a tossup. sv has something special going and everyone they play will come to learn this when they play them.

[the hustler]

2 teams to watch work they way back up toward the top of this poll are cumberland and june buchanan. cumberland beat powell county on dec 19th 70-62 at powell with their big man (johnson) playing only a total of about 2 minutes of the 2nd half, then fouling out. then for some reason took an entire week off practice or games from dec 20th-26, during which time powell played 4 tough opponents in a row on the 20th, 21st 22nd, and 23rd going 2-2 clearly sharpening their team in the process. then on the 28th powell beat a flat and very rusty cumberland and caused a big drop in the poll. cumberland has played 2 games the last 2 nights and got decent wins and should be headed back to where they were before the layoff. as for june buchanan, they went north and played some of the best teams in the state in the 5th/3rd classic and lost a couple games by large margins, which will help make them a better team in the long run and caused them to drop, just like when hazard lost by 40 to paul dunbar in lexington and now have won a few games in a row and are working their way back up the poll.

[Larry Legend]

No offense intended, but IMO Bell and SV are not the 2 and 3 teams in the mountains. Both teams have great records but little in the way of competitive schedules to-date.

Until proven differently, I would put Paintsville, Hazard, JBS, Belfry and Pikeville at full strength of course against SV or Bell Co. any day.

Until Paintsville beats a good team they should remain below SV and Bell. You have no idea how good Bell is. The Slusher kid would dominate anyone in the 15th.

[Larry Legend]

I admit Paintsville has played some tough teams. The problem is they haven't beaten any of them.

[ComeFlyWithMe]

I admit Paintsville has played some tough teams. The problem is they haven't beaten any of them.

Exactly, just playing good teams doesn't mean you're a good team, playing a team like Bell and beating them, or P-burg by 60 shows you're a good team, not just saying, oh we played Scott and lost by 15, doesn't make you a good team, they could have pulled the starters and you closed the gap.

[EKY Sportster]

Until Paintsville beats a good team they should remain below SV and Bell. You have no idea how good Bell is. The Slusher kid would dominate anyone in the 15th.

Paintsville beat Alcoa Tennessee which won the hoops classic! What more do you want. They also have been in several games against teams that could beat SV or Bell Co.

And if the Slusher kid would dominate anyone in the 15th, then why didn't he dominate SV?? I don't care how good he is, you can't win with just one player. You have just been watching too many easy games and don't realize how good some of the other teams really are that Paintsville and other 15th teams have gone up against.

[EKY Sportster]

I admit Paintsville has played some tough teams. The problem is they haven't beaten any of them.

I admit that SV is a good team, but SV hasn't beaten anyone that is better than some of the teams that Paintsville has beaten or played close.

[EKY Sportster]

Exactly, just playing good teams doesn't mean you're a good team, playing a team like Bell and beating them, or P-burg by 60 shows you're a good team, not just saying, oh we played Scott and lost by 15, doesn't make you a good team, they could have pulled the starters and you closed the gap.

Look, first of all I don't consider Bell Co. that great of a team. Second Ballou DC blew P-burg out of the gym in the Tiger Hoops Classic by 60 points and they went 1-2 in the Hoops tourney, didn't even make it to the final four of the tourney, and went 0-2 in the King of the Bluegrass tourney. So that proves nothing. If anything, it just shows you that there are a lot of teams out there that can match SV's accomplishments but wouldn't be a top 25 team in the state. I'm serious, beating P-burg by 60 is not anything to brag about. And everyone on here acting like Bell Co. is #1 in the state is rediculous. Look at their schedule and scores on the KHSAA website. They have played a weak schedule and done very little to brag about.

Again, I am not saying that SV is not good, or that Paintsville would blow them out or anything like that. I am just making the case that they haven't proven themselves this season so far, at least to justify the hype being piled on these threads by the SV faithful. Lets just let them play and see where they end up. That way no one has to come back on here and say "told you so" later on.

[Koobeton]

Well, the way I've see it-- you've expressed your opinion just as much as the "SV faithfuls", but yet you are saying that we should just let them play and see where they end up so no one will have to say "I told you so" later on.

I think that the "SV faithfuls" have every right to make a fuss about their team; their undefeated (yeh--save the "cupcake" season speech, we've all heard it a thousand times), are probably the most stacked with talent in the 15th region, and just won a tournament in Corbin. That's huge--- no matter what you say. They deserve every bit of the "hype" they are getting.

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