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10-03-2006, 10:09 PM
Change the name to "The Pikeville Thugs" what is this years record??
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10-03-2006, 10:20 PM
millertime Wrote:Change the name to "The Pikeville Thugs" what is this years record??
0-4
Got beat by Henderson State by a few TD's, St. Francis beat them 63-0, Campbellsville beat them by 10, and Union beat them this past weekend. Things aren't looking much better this coming weekend when they travel to Univ. of Cumberlands.
10-04-2006, 10:35 PM
so, why have all of those loser thugs?????????
10-05-2006, 02:01 PM
Mr. Right Wrote:I'm starting to feel like the administration at PC is to blame.
The football coaches they hire choose to do nothing but recruit, or give scholarships to players whose eligibility has run out elsewhere. Or their grades have faltered at a bigger school.
And it seems all of them are from S.C. Now, I'm no Rocker Scientist, but lets do some math. South Carolina is much more populated than Kentcuky, and I'd be willing to bet they have more NAIA schools competing in football. Now, why in the hell would these kids be coming to school in EKY if they were good enough to play at even the same level in S.C.?
Either they are trouble, or they aren't that good anyway.
Let me get to the point.......Pikeville College would have about the same record they have had since their existence if they just recruited in a 100 mile radius. Point blank, bottom line. And the sad part is, if they do this they would have a much better fan base, the school would make more money, and I wouldn't have to read about bozos from S.C. getting second and third offense arrests.
I could care less about Pikeville College, their past & former coaches, and those that hired the coaches. Until they get somebody in there with common sense to go with football knowledge they will continue to be a less than a mediocre program.
You can recruit around here for QB's and Lineman. But there is no speed around here like there is in SC, Georgia, and Florida. Coach Bryan's offense is a throwing offense, not a wishbone where you can use 4.8 forty, strong kids. You need guys that can run. Name me 10 guys here in eastern kentucky (receivers) that can run a LEGIT 4.7 forty. Not many. I have said this before. Eastern Kentucky boys do get recruited but they don't stay because they see they will not get to play as much as they did in high school. If you want to play college football you may have to pay for some of your school and redshirt a year, as does most of the kids at Pikeville College, and I know Georgetown College. So you guys can sit on here and complain all you want about how they need to recruit just Eastern Kentucky, but the truth is they do, the kids just don't make it. I played college ball and coached it, and trust me money has to be distributed throughout the team in NAIA cause you aren't given enough full scholarships. That is why I am still paying back loans that I owe.
10-05-2006, 02:08 PM
I've heard that the new coach brought in a bunch of kids he coached last season and apparently gave a bunch of them quite a bit of scholarship money...a lot of the kids are ineligible. So why give money to ineligible kids? It's just taking away from other kids that you know will get to class and make the grade. Pikeville has been natorious for recruiting kids and they are there one semester because they treat it as if it's a big party and flunk out. I have also heard that the last coach cut a bunch of kids money to give it to one player that no one else in the conference wanted to fool with. I may not be the smartest person in the world but it sounds to me that they are recruiting all wrong. There is plenty of talent within a 100 mile radius of Pikeville to put up a competitive team year in and year out. Look at Georgetown, Campbellsville, Cumberland...they all recruit kids in a local proximity. They do pretty good too, but why can't Pikeville???? Just blows my mind with some of the stuff I've heard.
10-05-2006, 06:49 PM
PC loves the thug life
10-05-2006, 08:45 PM
HazzBeen Wrote:You can recruit around here for QB's and Lineman. But there is no speed around here like there is in SC, Georgia, and Florida. Coach Bryan's offense is a throwing offense, not a wishbone where you can use 4.8 forty, strong kids. You need guys that can run. Name me 10 guys here in eastern kentucky (receivers) that can run a LEGIT 4.7 forty. Not many. I have said this before. Eastern Kentucky boys do get recruited but they don't stay because they see they will not get to play as much as they did in high school. If you want to play college football you may have to pay for some of your school and redshirt a year, as does most of the kids at Pikeville College, and I know Georgetown College. So you guys can sit on here and complain all you want about how they need to recruit just Eastern Kentucky, but the truth is they do, the kids just don't make it. I played college ball and coached it, and trust me money has to be distributed throughout the team in NAIA cause you aren't given enough full scholarships. That is why I am still paying back loans that I owe.
I agree that there aren't many players around here that run a 4.7 forty, BUT look who Pikeville's BEST reciever is, Justin Lamb from Breathitt County. He is nowhere near as fast as the other recievers nor does he have the agility as the others but he gets open and he catches the ball. That is Pikeville's biggest problem in the recieving corps, none of them can catch a cold but Lamb. Last year Nick Jamerson from Prestonsburg was the best reciever and they hardly ever threw him the ball, but when they did he made big plays out of it. He took 2 screen passes for 60+ yard TD's in one game, he left about 10 jocks laying on the ground. It's not that the EKY boys aren't good enough to play, most of the time it's because they don't get a chance.
10-06-2006, 02:04 AM
Redneck Wrote:I agree that there aren't many players around here that run a 4.7 forty, BUT look who Pikeville's BEST reciever is, Justin Lamb from Breathitt County. He is nowhere near as fast as the other recievers nor does he have the agility as the others but he gets open and he catches the ball. That is Pikeville's biggest problem in the recieving corps, none of them can catch a cold but Lamb. Last year Nick Jamerson from Prestonsburg was the best reciever and they hardly ever threw him the ball, but when they did he made big plays out of it. He took 2 screen passes for 60+ yard TD's in one game, he left about 10 jocks laying on the ground. It's not that the EKY boys aren't good enough to play, most of the time it's because they don't get a chance.
Agreed. Last years QB, from the games I saw, looked directly at the receiver he was going to throw to after the ball was snapped. What does that mean? He already had his mind made up on who was getting the ball regardless of the defensive coverage. That's why he had around 15 interceptions for the season and they didn't win games against Cumberlands and Georgetown.
10-06-2006, 03:19 AM
HazzBeen Wrote:You can recruit around here for QB's and Lineman. But there is no speed around here like there is in SC, Georgia, and Florida. Coach Bryan's offense is a throwing offense, not a wishbone where you can use 4.8 forty, strong kids. You need guys that can run. Name me 10 guys here in eastern kentucky (receivers) that can run a LEGIT 4.7 forty. Not many. I have said this before. Eastern Kentucky boys do get recruited but they don't stay because they see they will not get to play as much as they did in high school. If you want to play college football you may have to pay for some of your school and redshirt a year, as does most of the kids at Pikeville College, and I know Georgetown College. So you guys can sit on here and complain all you want about how they need to recruit just Eastern Kentucky, but the truth is they do, the kids just don't make it. I played college ball and coached it, and trust me money has to be distributed throughout the team in NAIA cause you aren't given enough full scholarships. That is why I am still paying back loans that I owe.
At the college level the talent around here for RB is way above QB.
BTW.....You go 0-4 with the so-called fast, thug athletes from South Carolina and I'd go at least 2-2 with slow, corn-bred fed country boys from the 100 mile raidus.
That's about all I care to say on the matter, except I would like to know where you played and coached. Please don't tell me Pikeville. Anybody could coach there. As a matter of fact, most of the thugs who play there end up coaching because they are too sorry to work. So anyone could land that gig.
10-06-2006, 10:38 AM
Mr. Right Wrote:At the college level the talent around here for RB is way above QB.The talant at QB is there, but the coaching and the guidance at the QB position is not IMO.
BTW.....You go 0-4 with the so-called fast, thug athletes from South Carolina and I'd go at least 2-2 with slow, corn-bred fed country boys from the 100 mile raidus.
That's about all I care to say on the matter, except I would like to know where you played and coached. Please don't tell me Pikeville. Anybody could coach there. As a matter of fact, most of the thugs who play there end up coaching because they are too sorry to work. So anyone could land that gig.
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10-06-2006, 10:42 PM
a really good qb and reciever are hard to come by in eastern ky. mainly because of speed. But most college qb's are well over 6'0. and you don't see very many plaryers around here over 6'0, and if they are they usually make it to a lineman pos.
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10-08-2006, 10:30 PM
I for one was SHOCKED to learn that Pikeville beat Shorter AT Shorter yesterday in 3 OT's 27-24. Shorter is pretty solid, they beat the Cumberlands a couple of weeks ago. Congrats Bears on the victory, maybe that was the turnaround you needed to get rolling, IDK, I guess we will fing out this Saturday. I believe they play Cumberland University (Tenn) who they barely beat last year in OT at CU. I believe it's Homecoming week also in Pikeville.
10-09-2006, 02:25 PM
is georgetown any good this year?
10-09-2006, 03:34 PM
Jimmy Dugan Wrote:is georgetown any good this year?
Always.
10-17-2006, 03:10 PM
Mr. Right Wrote:At the college level the talent around here for RB is way above QB.
BTW.....You go 0-4 with the so-called fast, thug athletes from South Carolina and I'd go at least 2-2 with slow, corn-bred fed country boys from the 100 mile raidus.
That's about all I care to say on the matter, except I would like to know where you played and coached. Please don't tell me Pikeville. Anybody could coach there. As a matter of fact, most of the thugs who play there end up coaching because they are too sorry to work. So anyone could land that gig.
Maybe you should start a team with slow, corn fed boys. You won't go 2 - 2, I promise you that. Not in the mid-south anyway. I will say this one more time and that's it. Eastern Kentucky kids are recruited, they just don't stay. Ex. Jamerson, Howard, Sullivans, Moore, the big tackle that played with Cullop from Belfry, the d-end who got defensive player of the year from Belfry. Bottom line is the coaching staff gets paid to win games, not to please you guys on here who think you know what is going on when you don't
10-17-2006, 04:10 PM
HazzBeen Wrote:Maybe you should start a team with slow, corn fed boys. You won't go 2 - 2, I promise you that. Not in the mid-south anyway. I will say this one more time and that's it. Eastern Kentucky kids are recruited, they just don't stay. Ex. Jamerson, Howard, Sullivans, Moore, the big tackle that played with Cullop from Belfry, the d-end who got defensive player of the year from Belfry. Bottom line is the coaching staff gets paid to win games, not to please you guys on here who think you know what is going on when you don't
They don't stay because coaches lie to them about the financial situations, or even worse, they give them a decent offer until they enroll and then take it away.
But lets talk about wins and losses. Pikeville damn sure isn't winning with the thugs they have on the team now, are they?
10-17-2006, 09:02 PM
HazzBeen Wrote:Maybe you should start a team with slow, corn fed boys. You won't go 2 - 2, I promise you that. Not in the mid-south anyway. I will say this one more time and that's it. Eastern Kentucky kids are recruited, they just don't stay. Ex. Jamerson, Howard, Sullivans, Moore, the big tackle that played with Cullop from Belfry, the d-end who got defensive player of the year from Belfry. Bottom line is the coaching staff gets paid to win games, not to please you guys on here who think you know what is going on when you don't
As Mr. Right said the kids are flat out lied to, and who in their right mind would want to be associated with the stuff that goes on over there?
They promise this money and that and then they say well if you red shirt we have to cut this amount.......
10-18-2006, 01:33 AM
JD If U Please Wrote:As Mr. Right said the kids are flat out lied to, and who in their right mind would want to be associated with the stuff that goes on over there?
They promise this money and that and then they say well if you red shirt we have to cut this amount.......
Very true happened to a buddy of mine.
Well my senior year 3 of our players went to play at P-ville. 2 quit and 1 was lied to about his payment for college. Joe Wyatt praciticed then quit said "it was a joke". Jermiah Damron said the same. And I don't wanna hear that well they just couldn't take it. Both are now proud members of the USMC.
10-18-2006, 01:34 AM
HazzBeen Wrote:Maybe you should start a team with slow, corn fed boys. You won't go 2 - 2, I promise you that. Not in the mid-south anyway. I will say this one more time and that's it. Eastern Kentucky kids are recruited, they just don't stay. Ex. Jamerson, Howard, Sullivans, Moore, the big tackle that played with Cullop from Belfry, the d-end who got defensive player of the year from Belfry. Bottom line is the coaching staff gets paid to win games, not to please you guys on here who think you know what is going on when you don't
Aren't you one of those big corn fed slow boys from eastern, Ky.?
10-18-2006, 10:41 AM
pillsburythrowboy Wrote:Very true happened to a buddy of mine.
Well my senior year 3 of our players went to play at P-ville. 2 quit and 1 was lied to about his payment for college. Joe Wyatt praciticed then quit said "it was a joke". Jermiah Damron said the same. And I don't wanna hear that well they just couldn't take it. Both are now proud members of the USMC.
They could take it, they were not good enough. They were told from the beginning that they were walk ons, I know this cause I know the guy that coached them in high school real well pillsbury. Yes I am one of those slow, corn fed white boys. My point is these guys that play will tell you every excuse in the world why they quit. " I got lied to, my knee is hurt, etc." It is hard for kids to come from being a superstar to being a scout teamer.
10-18-2006, 10:00 PM
I played college ball for several years and I did have to hang them up due to a knee injury. I don't think it's a problem with kids not being a superstar it's whether or not they can get adjusted to college life(i.e. going to class and not flunking out). I do know kids that played there personally that did have money cut from them or wasn't given to at all. Sure they go down south and bring up kids and that's fine, but until they do heavy recruiting in-state and around WV, VA, TN they will not have a large crowd basis and will continue to have a bad reputation. I would much rather see local boys get compete at the next level...win or lose.... than a group from GA or SC.
10-20-2006, 12:35 PM
IRISH4 Wrote:I played college ball for several years and I did have to hang them up due to a knee injury. I don't think it's a problem with kids not being a superstar it's whether or not they can get adjusted to college life(i.e. going to class and not flunking out). I do know kids that played there personally that did have money cut from them or wasn't given to at all. Sure they go down south and bring up kids and that's fine, but until they do heavy recruiting in-state and around WV, VA, TN they will not have a large crowd basis and will continue to have a bad reputation. I would much rather see local boys get compete at the next level...win or lose.... than a group from GA or SC.
I agree 100%.
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10-22-2006, 06:57 PM
Justin Lamb broke the school record for recieving yards in a game with 159 yards yesterday in the loss to UVA-Wise, 2 TD's and a 2 point conversion to go along with those yards. How about that, the slowest reciever on the team who is from Breathitt County (Eastern Kentucky) leading the team in yards and receptions, not to mention going into last week he was like 5th in the NATION in receptions per game. Congrats Lamb, you deserve it.
10-22-2006, 10:44 PM
IRISH4 Wrote:I played college ball for several years and I did have to hang them up due to a knee injury. I don't think it's a problem with kids not being a superstar it's whether or not they can get adjusted to college life(i.e. going to class and not flunking out). I do know kids that played there personally that did have money cut from them or wasn't given to at all. Sure they go down south and bring up kids and that's fine, but until they do heavy recruiting in-state and around WV, VA, TN they will not have a large crowd basis and will continue to have a bad reputation. I would much rather see local boys get compete at the next level...win or lose.... than a group from GA or SC.
Not so much of a group of down south boys..more like a group of D-1 flunks..
10-22-2006, 11:39 PM
Redneck Wrote:Justin Lamb broke the school record for recieving yards in a game with 159 yards yesterday in the loss to UVA-Wise, 2 TD's and a 2 point conversion to go along with those yards. How about that, the slowest reciever on the team who is from Breathitt County (Eastern Kentucky) leading the team in yards and receptions, not to mention going into last week he was like 5th in the NATION in receptions per game. Congrats Lamb, you deserve it.
I'm really glad to hear that. Congrats to Justin Lamb.:thumpsup:
10-23-2006, 12:36 AM
I looked at the roster yesterday and I believe that only 11 players are from the state of Kentucky and I believe 23 players were from South Carolina. The rest of the kids coming from NC, GA, FL, and even a few from Califorina. How in the world do kids hear of little ole Pikeville from California??? Doesn't make sense. Wise had a big roster and atleast 95% of their players came from in-state.
However, congrats to Lamb...he deserves everything he gets.
However, congrats to Lamb...he deserves everything he gets.
10-23-2006, 12:40 AM
IRISH4 Wrote:I looked at the roster yesterday and I believe that only 11 players are from the state of Kentucky and I believe 23 players were from South Carolina. The rest of the kids coming from NC, GA, FL, and even a few from Califorina. How in the world do kids hear of little ole Pikeville from California??? Doesn't make sense. Wise had a big roster and atleast 95% of their players came from in-state.
However, congrats to Lamb...he deserves everything he gets.
Don't forget about Alabama. BUT, those kids are good students and good kids. Brad Pounds starts on the O-Line and Sean McKinnley starts LB (averaging double figure tackles per game).
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