[Kayaker]

So I should expect the very same come Friday.

Matney said when he first arrived at JC that "Johnson Central had bigger ambitions than just beating Paintsville every year." Now since he has went to his second and third string in every game this year, for him not to use them would nullify that statement for me. I do believe that this game will be in hand by the first half and that you will see alot of subs in as early as mid-way through the 3rd quarter and the entire 4th quarter. This game will get ugly even with JC's backup in but will get atrocious if the starters never come out, which in my opinion it will.

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

Matney said when he first arrived at JC that "Johnson Central had bigger ambitions than just beating Paintsville every year." Now since he has went to his second and third string in every game this year, for him not to use them would nullify that statement for me. I do believe that this game will be in hand by the first half and that you will see alot of subs in as early as mid-way through the 3rd quarter and the entire 4th quarter. This game will get ugly even with JC's backup in but will get atrocious if the starters never come out, which in my opinion it will.

It was over at halftime last year, the starters were still in the game with 2 minutes to go in the. I have heard first hand Matney say he wanted to run the score up on Paintsville.

[Kayaker]

It was over at halftime last year, the starters were still in the game with 2 minutes to go in the. I have heard first hand Matney say he wanted to run the score up on Paintsville.

I didnt really remember, just know that is wasnt pretty. Then obviously he wants to win this game more than he lets on. I dont blame him for wanting to win, but to make a statement that JC has bigger ambitions than just beating Paintsville and then to play your starters in a game which really has no implications on your season doesnt make sense. I mean I would love to see JC hang 80 on Paintsville but I dont believe that this game should be treated any different than any of the other games and that means the starters should come out when the game is well in hand.

[Football FANatic]

Where did you hear Coach Matney say that?

[Golden Eagle]

It was over at halftime last year, the starters were still in the game with 2 minutes to go in the. I have heard first hand Matney say he wanted to run the score up on Paintsville.

It was just 22 to 6 in favor of Johnson Central last year at the half. I would say that the game was far from being over. First hand my butt, until you've heard Jim Matney say it himself it's not first hand. Care to tell when and where that you've heard him say that? Although I heard many JC fans say that they want to run it up I have yet to here coach Matney say anything like this. I've heard him many times already since Friday night say that he just wants to win the game. This poor pitiful me routine that your trying to pull on here to get everyone to feel sorry for your tigers is comical and it's a sharp contrast to the arrogance that was displayed by many of you the past couple of years.

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

It was just 22 to 6 in favor of Johnson Central last year at the half. I would say that the game was far from being over. First hand my butt, until you've heard Jim Matney say it himself it's not first hand. Care to tell when and where that you've heard him say that? Although I heard many JC fans say that they want to run it up I have yet to here coach Matney say anything like this. I've heard him many times already since Friday night say that he just wants to win the game. This poor pitiful me routine that your trying to pull on here to get everyone to feel sorry for your tigers is comical and it's a sharp contrast to the arrogance that was displayed by many of you the past couple of years.

OK know it all, I was running the chains the year before last during the Apple Bowl, and incase you didn't that was on JC's sideline. I watched and witnessed him tell his assistant coaches not to let up to keep poundin them. One of his assistant coaches even suggested taking Sean Music, Scotty McCoy and Ron Blume out of the game and he said "No". He even looked right at me and my chain partner (whose son played for PHS) and smiled at us. You wanna question me, come see me at the game and I will point out who my partner was and you can ask him too.

[Golden Eagle]

OK know it all, I was running the chains the year before last during the Apple Bowl, and incase you didn't that was on JC's sideline. I watched and witnessed him tell his assistant coaches not to let up to keep poundin them. One of his assistant coaches even suggested taking Sean Music, Scotty McCoy and Ron Blume out of the game and he said "No". He even looked right at me and my chain partner (whose son played for PHS) and smiled at us. You wanna question me, come see me at the game and I will point out who my partner was and you can ask him too.

Yea right I'm really going to believe that one. You've been spreading the big blue tinted tiger gospel since way back in the day when you were bald duck on the other site and now years later and several new user names your still doing the same. If that was true and I don't for the first minute think it is I wouldn't have pullled my starters either. If he'd pulled the starters at half time like you've wanted the past two years we wouldn't be witnessing this pity fest that's going on now by you and the other tiger deciples.

:kneel:

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

Yea right I'm really going to believe that one. You've been spreading the big blue tinted tiger gospel since way back in the day when you were bald duck on the other site and now years later and several new user names your still doing the same. If that was true and I don't for the first minute think it is I wouldn't have pullled my starters either. If he'd pulled the starters at half time like you've wanted the past two years we wouldn't be witnessing this pity fest that's going on now by you and the other tiger deciples.

:kneel:

You don't believe me, that's fine. Go watch the game tape and you will see me on JC's sideline as part of the chain gang. And remember this, when I played we beat JC. And you can go on and on about coaches all you want, "Humphries was horrible, Ross was horrible" it doesn't matter. Yeah they beat us my freshman and sophomore year in very close games when Musick was there, and we should have won both of them but we shot ourselves in teh foot with stupid mistakes. And your wrong about one thing, I wasn't Bald Duck, I was W_D_J. Bald Duck was a family member yeah, but it wasn't me. I didn't say anything about pulling the starters at halftime, I just said the game was over at halftime.

I will give you $20 if you can name the "several" usernames I have had in the past.

[Moose Nuck]

To be honest with you there, my older brother was on the JC sidelines at the time as a police officer and he did mention something about Matney saying that he wanted to put it on them, not sure exactly what was said or when it was said during the game, probably the start, because its been a while ago. But I do remember seeing parents, grandparents, toddlers, people rolled out on the field in hospital beds, the whole 9 yards, out on the field after beating them at Paintsville back in 2004, acting like they won the Super Bowl. Students are ok, but when you bring out 5-6 generations of your family to celebrate beating the 4th smallest class A school in the state with a football program, is a little excessive. I just can't wait until this week is over, so all of Johnson Co. can get back to normal, and everyone supporting one another on their District Title ambitions.

[Golden Eagle]

You don't believe me, that's fine. Go watch the game tape and you will see me on JC's sideline as part of the chain gang. And remember this, when I played we beat JC. And you can go on and on about coaches all you want, "Humphries was horrible, Ross was horrible" it doesn't matter. Yeah they beat us my freshman and sophomore year in very close games when Musick was there, and we should have won both of them but we shot ourselves in teh foot with stupid mistakes. And your wrong about one thing, I wasn't Bald Duck, I was W_D_J. Bald Duck was a family member yeah, but it wasn't me. I didn't say anything about pulling the starters at halftime, I just said the game was over at halftime.

I will give you $20 if you can name the "several" usernames I have had in the past.

I'm not disputing that you were a part of the chain gang I just don't believe you at ALL about the other part. I could care less that you beat JC when you played. You make it sound like that you were a perfect 4-0 by saying and I quote" And remember this, when I played we beat JC." when in reality you won two and lost two. I've not said anything about Humphries or Ross so I don't know where you got that one from. Let me ask you this what does the past have to do with anything? I was on teams that beat Paintsville as well but it don't mean squat today so why bring it up? You need to close the yearbook and quit reminiscing about back in the day because it doesn’t mean anything... ditto... squat now. I've always said that people who want to live in the past only do so when they are scared of the present.



PS: Just keep the 20 bucks and donate it to the PHS alumni fund because I don't need it but I here they do. You can even donate it in my name if you like. :Thumbs:

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

I'm not disputing that you were a part of the chain gang I just don't believe you at ALL about the other part. I could care less that you beat JC when you played. You make it sound like that you were a perfect 4-0 by saying and I quote" And remember this, when I played we beat JC." when in reality you won two and lost two. I've not said anything about Humphries or Ross so I don't know where you got that one from. Let me ask you this what does the past have to do with anything? I was on teams that beat Paintsville as well but it don't mean squat today so why bring it up? You need to close the yearbook and quit reminiscing about back in the day because it doesn’t mean anything... ditto... squat now. I've always said that people who want to live in the past only do so when they are scared of the present.



PS: Just keep the 20 bucks and donate it to the PHS alumni fund because I don't need it but I here they do. You can even donate it in my name if you like. :Thumbs:

LOL, hey you brought up the past before I did. I aint a bit scared of the present, I'm not playing anymore. I believe I did predict JC to win this game in a huge fashion. I took a big one on the chin last year when I predicted PHS to win in a close one and I took it like a man, even paid off my losing bet. You might not have said anything about the coaches in the past, but many JC fans have and blame the loss' on it. Me bringing up the past is my way of saying it doesn't matter to me anymore, I went out a winner. I would like to see PHS win but it just isn't gonna happen, hate to say it but it isn't. And I can't believe as well as you know me you haven't learned by now that I like throw a lil fuel to the fire when JC and PHS play in any sport.

[Golden Eagle]

To be honest with you there, my older brother was on the JC sidelines at the time as a police officer and he did mention something about Matney saying that he wanted to put it on them, not sure exactly what was said or when it was said during the game, probably the start, because its been a while ago. But I do remember seeing parents, grandparents, toddlers, people rolled out on the field in hospital beds, the whole 9 yards, out on the field after beating them at Paintsville back in 2004, acting like they won the Super Bowl. Students are ok, but when you bring out 5-6 generations of your family to celebrate beating the 4th smallest class A school in the state with a football program, is a little excessive. I just can't wait until this week is over, so all of Johnson Co. can get back to normal, and everyone supporting one another on their District Title ambitions.

Its funny when Paintsville wins over Johnson Central you never hear about the enrollment of Paintsville but then JC wins it usually one of the first excuses you hear. Why would I take your word on the running up the score issue either? You and ole PC_U_KNOW_98 are thick as soup. You like PC 98 have been spreading the blue tinted gospel for years on the other site. Am I correct Blackcat or was it Mongoose? No wait it was both. You can say that it was the super bowl and stretch the truth about 5-6 generations being on the field all you want but we both no that game was the turning point of this Apple Bowl rivalry as we know it today. That game marked the beginning of what I believe will be absolute dominance in this rivalry and there’s nothing that the tigers can do about it. The proof is in the pudding. Good night all I'm going to bed. We'll pick this back up tomorrow.

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

Its funny when Paintsville wins over Johnson Central you never hear about the enrollment of Paintsville but then JC wins it usually one of the first excuses you hear. Why would I take your word on the running up the score issue either? You and ole PC_U_KNOW_98 are thick as soup. You like PC 98 have been spreading the blue tinted gospel for years on the other site. Am I correct Blackcat or was it Mongoose? No wait it was both. You can say that it was the super bowl and stretch the truth about 5-6 generations being on the field all you want but we both no that game was the turning point of this Apple Bowl rivalry as we know it today. That game marked the beginning of what I believe will be absolute dominance in this rivalry and there’s nothing that the tigers can do about it. The proof is in the pudding. Good night all I'm going to bed. We'll pick this back up tomorrow.

What did I say about the enrollment, lol? And you are wrong about that anyways, when Paintsville beats JC everyone makes fun of the fact that JC is triple, maybe even quadruple the size of Paintsville . You're right though, as long as JC keeps the numbers up like they have these past couple of seasons, I don't see PHS competing with them. Some say they shouldn't have this game anymore, I dissagree. This game has too much tradition and history to end regaurdless of how dominant either team is. I love the atmosphere, all the trash talking etc. the week leading up to this game. Like right now, I am having a blast. But in all honesty GE, Matney did do that, I wouldn't lie.

[Moose Nuck]

Its funny when Paintsville wins over Johnson Central you never hear about the enrollment of Paintsville but then JC wins it usually one of the first excuses you hear. Why would I take your word on the running up the score issue either? You and ole PC_U_KNOW_98 are thick as soup. You like PC 98 have been spreading the blue tinted gospel for years on the other site. Am I correct Blackcat or was it Mongoose? No wait it was both. You can say that it was the super bowl and stretch the truth about 5-6 generations being on the field all you want but we both no that game was the turning point of this Apple Bowl rivalry as we know it today. That game marked the beginning of what I believe will be absolute dominance in this rivalry and there’s nothing that the tigers can do about it. The proof is in the pudding. Good night all I'm going to bed. We'll pick this back up tomorrow.

Yeah I was Mongoose and it was Blackcatfan, not blackcat and I don't really care, glad that you can remember that though. Spreading the gospel, do I think they will win??? NO, I just hope it is competitive there What Do I know. Find one post on here where I said Paintsville is going to win this game I haven't, so I don't know how its spreading anything. I said from the get go that JC will go 13-1, I've told everyone that. Do I still live for this rivalry, no, I've got the Keg of Nails and Black-Out Thursday to look forward to when the Cards take on Cincy and West Virginia. I said many times if I root for any team its going to be JC because my cousin goes to school over there. If I was speaking through my blue tinted gospel would I have given some JC players advice about what to run and expect in the game against Paintsville? No I wouldn't have, but I did, so if you don't believe me on that, ask Tommy Taylor if I did? Yeah me and PC are thick as soup, bloods thicker than water, and he is my cousin. But I do remember my oldest brother telling me that and why would he lie, he hates Paintsville sports thats why he never played. If you say it didn't happen I'd like to see you take it up with him, he'll tell you it did happen so don't shoot the messenger. Paintsville's talent is down and everyone knows that, it may be a while until they get it built back up to the teams they used to have, so yeah I agree JC may dominate this rivalry for a while. And yeah I probably did stretch the 5-6 generation thing, its more like 3-4. The Ashland Daily ran an article about when Bill Tom Ross came to JC it said that one of the main reasons he was hired was because his winning tradition against Paintsville back in his days at Raceland. I don't see Paintsville bringing in coaches that traditionally beats Central. 3 years, 3 different coaches, 3 new systems is hard on any kids. Maybe that is why Central was in the dumps a few years back because they changed coaches like underwear. I'm glad they got one, and a good one, and are sticking with him. I hope he stays there until his toes point up, because if he does good things will definately continue to happen. Why most people bring up the size factor about when Paintsville beats Central because it should embarrass Central for letting a school with about 100 boys 7-12 beat a team that has about a 5:1 ratio in that department, if they beat them they are supposed to. I just wish they'd do away with the game, nothing but trouble comes out of it. One year a coach got his tires burnt, chickens let loose on JC's field, practice sleds get burnt up, schools get painted. No, I never took part in any of this, I thought it was rediculous, and after the games I didn't go celebrate I went home, it was just no big deal to me and never got caught up in the hype. Why don't they just use this week to have an Apple Day Classic to take place for the departed Big Sandy Bowl. Cut the Barrell in half, let each school have their emblem and all their colored plaques and be done with it. It'd save this same old stuff from happening every year. Most of the people that get fired up about this game are the fans not the players. No one can sit there and say that Steve Trimble and Steve Whitaker doesn't live to beat Paintsville. I remember when we were practicing Trimble would drive by all the time to watch us, sure he may go to Church behind the field, but I know churches don't have revivals every week Monday-Friday. So if you all want to get your rocks off saying how bad JC will beat Paintsville and hoping they hang 100 on the board, go ahead. This rivalry has turned into something much more and its a shame. People from JC will use their victories and sit around on the front porch and talk about it when they are 80 saying remember when we beat Paintsville. Paintsville people I'm sure will do the same, its just a game, and all this hog wash has taken the fun out of it from a spectator/former player's point of view. Let the kids play. You have your 4 years of high school to do something about it, but it should stop right there and not be carried on down the line and kept with you until the day you die. That's why I really could give two scoops of poopy less about if Central or Paintsville wins the next 100 in a row. Doesn't matter to me, I went 2-2 during my time at Paintsville and I'm leaving it at that. 4 good games, friendships, and memories is what I'm taking with me, but the hatred for the opposition stopped after that Apple Bowl night back in 2002. I just hope most people will start to do the same, and come and rally behind both respectful clubs that our county as a whole has to offer.

[Once King Now Prince]

All of you guys whining about Matney running up the score is funny. I mean, whining about running up the score when you should be saying your team has a chance of winning. I guess you have noticed the reality of things when I say Paintsville will probably NEVER win another game against JC again. :thatsfunn


And if Matney wanted to run up the score last year there late in the game, he would have kept giving it to Blume and try and let him bust a big one. And two years ago, he was trying to run out the clock by sending Blume right up the middle and Paintsville couldn't stop a 165 pounder from running over them and into the endzone! :thatsfunn I remember laughing from the stands. Cause I could tell Blume almost didn't want to score by the way he stepped into the endzone.

[TRAIN85]

Whoever told you that if full of alot of BS. Daniel Pugh is the MOST competitive kid I have ever seen, he hates losing more than ANYTHING.

And what's the remark about Pikeville kids needing to go to JC if they wanna play football, they have a pretty darn good football program, always have. Why did they get brought into any of this talk between Paintsville/JC.

it was meant to say paintsville not pikeville.
sorry just a read a different post before and got miscued.

[Youngerthandirt]

Sitting here in my office and reading all the words being fired from both sides is kind of funny, but interesting. It's good that there is such a rival between the two schools. The competition factor drives both to be a good as they can be. They want to top the other in academics, sports, who's coach is better, who's fan are better, and who's done the best in the past. This is good for both schools, neither will fall and crumble because they lost or won a football game. I hope both teams play hard, compete to their fullest and the game goes without injury. I hope the game is a good one and I hope all the fans get home safe and enjoy the next weeks festival.
I do have to make one comment, did I read (and I don't want to go back and re-read all the verbage) that someone said Paintsville would never beat Johnson Central again? Didn't I read that same headline in the Paintsville Herald in 1994 or 95 from their basketball coach. I believe Paintsville won the next 17 games, and he ended up in Texas or somewhere. I'm not saying Paintsville will win 17 straight football games, I'm just saying never say never.
Good Luck to my Tigers and I hope you play the game with heart and play to win. Good Luck to Johnson Central and as I said earlier, may both teams play with injury. See you all at the game.

[*access*]

I want to wish both teams good luck and hopefully it will be a good injury free game. I know I heard that Paintsville had some starters out with injury's and JC has starting QB out. Seems like Welch and I think his name is Dillion has done a great job picking up the QB position for JC. JC is bigger stronger and favored to win. But you never know what will happen. Both teams have a great coaching staff and a bunch of great players. I am not from Johnson Co. but love the Apple bowl and the great turnout that comes from it.
I know JC has a few back up QB does Paintsville? Ive seen Pugh limping at a few games hope he is alright! What do both teams have coming up next year? As far as freshman or 8th grade. Will the odds be closer next year?
Who holds the most win's in the Apple Bowl

[Whos next?]

I want to wish both teams good luck and hopefully it will be a good injury free game. I know I heard that Paintsville had some starters out with injury's and JC has starting QB out. Seems like Welch and I think his name is Dillion has done a great job picking up the QB position for JC. JC is bigger stronger and favored to win. But you never know what will happen. Both teams have a great coaching staff and a bunch of great players. I am not from Johnson Co. but love the Apple bowl and the great turnout that comes from it.
I know JC has a few back up QB does Paintsville? Ive seen Pugh limping at a few games hope he is alright! What do both teams have coming up next year? As far as freshman or 8th grade. Will the odds be closer next year?
Who holds the most win's in the Apple Bowl

it will be worse imho.

[crazytaxidriver]

Over the past two years JC has had a big advantage on the number of players, but historically JC has averaged 30 to 35 players about the same as P'ville with both schools using 14 or 15 players each game.
Here's a question if a 3A or 4A school has about the same number of players and play about the same number of kids as a 2A or 1A school Do they have a advantage over a smaller school just because they have a higher enrollment.

i think they do.. because they have more to choose from, and the one's who want to play football, will actually come out and play some football. but if the school doesn't care about the sport then neither will the players.

[15thRegionCrazy]

Johnson Central

[IRISH4]

Paintsville holds the most wins in the history of the Apple Bowl. Any truth to this is the last year for the game?

[BlackcatAlum]

Thursday Night or Friday Night ???

[Ridge Runner]

Friday @ PHS. So who ever plans on going better go early if they want a seat.

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

Me and some boys will be at Hillbilly's Pizza in Auxier a couple hours before the game if any Paintsville fans wanna come join us for a few slices and a couple brewskies. Hell JC's are welcome too, I got alot friends that went to JC, be happy to have ya.

[THUNDERCHILD]

Paintsville holds the most wins in the history of the Apple Bowl. Any truth to this is the last year for the game?

I don't know if there’s any truth to it or not. Personally I don't think that (other than the gate) Johnson Central benefits from this game. I think it may hurt the Golden Eagle program more than help it.

[IRISH4]

I agree. Next season JC will be 5A I assume and Paintsville will be 1A. It's a no win situation for the Eagles though like a lot of people have already said. They win, well they are supposed to win. They lose, and well they suck...plain and simple. JC takes this one and will have the edge for as long as Matney is there. Things have finally shapped up for JC since the hiring of him and I look for great things to continue to happen for this bunch. Paintsville is rebuilding this season and it's rough for any team to be under the reign of a 3rd coach in as many years. Give it time and they'll be back to where they usually are in their Region. Good luck to both teams friday night.

[PC_U_KNOW_98]

Paintsville is rebuilding this season and it's rough for any team to be under the reign of a 3rd coach in as many years.

Technically you're right IRISH. But if you think about it like I have been for 20 minutes, this group of Seniors are under their 4th coach in 4 seasons. David LeMaster their Freshman year, Chuke Williams their Sophomore year, Runyon their Junior year and now Allen their Senior year. I know Chuke didn't have the headline as "Head Coach" but he might as well have been, he called all the shots and brought in a totally different offense as to what these boys have been running thier whole lives.

[IRISH4]

That is true. From what I remember that year at the Apple Bowl it was Williams making all the play calling from that manila folder he carried on the sidelines. His offense was like Coach Boone from "Remember the Titans" run 6 plays like novacaine...always works, he's always been like that even in his days coaching at Magoffin Co. and Prestonsburg.

[The College One]

JC -63

Pb-0

This should be an easy game and should be a blow out get the youngsters in early get the some playin time