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03-14-2025, 05:41 PM
(03-14-2025, 11:54 AM)SEKYFAN Wrote:Remember COVID? I will not be reading any of that MSNBC garbage anymore than you’d read a Fox News hyperlink I posted….(03-13-2025, 06:55 AM)Pop Alexandra Wrote:(02-16-2025, 06:25 PM)TD Hounds Wrote: https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/top...s-ceo-says
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-t...oductivity
Seems like I remember posting this as a likely scenario to the tariffs….
Thanks for sharing. That sounds like a reasonable scenario.
I still hope he'll back down, though.
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import machinery into the US
This is also what some claimed after the 2018 tariffs went into effect.
Where are all of the new manufacturing jobs that were promised? Research actually shows that the 2018 tariffs led to the direct loss of 75,000 manufacturing jobs, which does not count the losses incurred after the retaliatory tariffs imposed by other countries.
The Peterson Institute for International Economics estimates that, in the end, Trump’s steel tariffs cost taxpayers more than $900,000 each year for every job they saved or created.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...9435&ei=68
03-14-2025, 11:55 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-14-2025, 11:59 PM by TheRealThing.)
The US has gone braindead and Trump is trying to wake up the woke. America manufactures practically nothing these days. Lead smelting for many critical uses such as shielding for nuclear reactors on Naval vessels and radiological equipment in hospitals? Thanks to Obama's war on guns through the elimination of ammunition --- gone. Steel production and milling for everything from buildings to submarines --- gone. Aircraft grade aluminum for all kinds of aircraft --- gone. There is also a war being waged, again thanks to Obama, on all forms of fossil fuel driven energy. And with the elimination of fossils fuels will go transportation and plastics for everything in modern life from medial equipment to pool liners, to credit cards, many of our drugs, on down to the asphalt we all drive on. But hey, who really cares because there wouldn't be any gasoline anyway, right? There is a war being waged on farmers too, the list is nearly endless.
And for what? The ridiculousness of something the lefties call Climate Change.
Genesis 8:22
22 “While the earth remains,
Seedtime and harvest,
And cold and heat,
And summer and winter,
And day and night
Shall not cease.”
Who is sovereign over the earth and the rest of creation anyway? Carl Sagan or God? I submit to you that there is no question the answer to that is God. He says as long as this earth stands, the seasons and the weather and the orderly status quo of this universe WILL continue as it has always been. By the time America gives up on everything the liberals insist that we should, our enemies who btw are totally out there waiting for the US to complete their self inflicted cycle of idiotic self destruction, will take us largely without a shot I would guess.
And for what? The ridiculousness of something the lefties call Climate Change.
Genesis 8:22
22 “While the earth remains,
Seedtime and harvest,
And cold and heat,
And summer and winter,
And day and night
Shall not cease.”
Who is sovereign over the earth and the rest of creation anyway? Carl Sagan or God? I submit to you that there is no question the answer to that is God. He says as long as this earth stands, the seasons and the weather and the orderly status quo of this universe WILL continue as it has always been. By the time America gives up on everything the liberals insist that we should, our enemies who btw are totally out there waiting for the US to complete their self inflicted cycle of idiotic self destruction, will take us largely without a shot I would guess.
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03-15-2025, 01:42 AM
(03-14-2025, 11:55 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: The US has gone braindead and Trump is trying to wake up the woke. America manufactures practically nothing these days. Lead smelting for many critical uses such as shielding for nuclear reactors on Naval vessels and radiological equipment in hospitals? Thanks to Obama's war on guns through the elimination of ammunition --- gone. Steel production and milling for everything from buildings to submarines --- gone. Aircraft grade aluminum for all kinds of aircraft --- gone. There is also a war being waged, again thanks to Obama, on all forms of fossil fuel driven energy. And with the elimination of fossils fuels will go transportation and plastics for everything in modern life from medial equipment to pool liners, to credit cards, many of our drugs, on down to the asphalt we all drive on. But hey, who really cares because there wouldn't be any gasoline anyway, right? There is a war being waged on farmers too, the list is nearly endless.
And for what? The ridiculousness of something the lefties call Climate Change.
Genesis 8:22
22 “While the earth remains,
Seedtime and harvest,
And cold and heat,
And summer and winter,
And day and night
Shall not cease.”
Who is sovereign over the earth and the rest of creation anyway? Carl Sagan or God? I submit to you that there is no question the answer to that is God. He says as long as this earth stands, the seasons and the weather and the orderly status quo of this universe WILL continue as it has always been. By the time America gives up on everything the liberals insist that we should, our enemies who btw are totally out there waiting for the US to complete their self inflicted cycle of idiotic self destruction, will take us largely without a shot I would guess.
Hear hear!
Everyone with more than 10 brain cells knows man-made climate change is a hoax. Nobody doing anything, just another fleecing the taxpayers scam.
Libtards screamed and cried for months when Trump dropped us out of the Paris climate accord lol. Somebody post some propaganda explaining what it has accomplished after all the billions fleeced from taxpayers.
From AI: [color=var(--YLNNHc)]Why did the Paris Agreement fail?[/color]
[color=var(--bbQxAb)]“The Paris Agreement is not enough. Even at the time of negotiation, it was recognized as not being enough,” says CFR's Hill. “It was only a first step, and the expectation was that as time went on, countries would return with greater ambition to cut their emissions.”[/color]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*dumbasses*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
04-03-2025, 05:10 PM
Lukas (computer) (3/AC)?
@SCHIZO_FREQ
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3h
My stance with the tariffs is basically
Everyone I know who's been wrong about literally everything for the last 10 years is SUPER pissed about them
So the 'inverse retard' indicator says it's probably fine
@SCHIZO_FREQ
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3h
My stance with the tariffs is basically
Everyone I know who's been wrong about literally everything for the last 10 years is SUPER pissed about them
So the 'inverse retard' indicator says it's probably fine
04-03-2025, 05:59 PM
(04-03-2025, 05:10 PM)jetpilot Wrote: Lukas (computer) (3/AC)?
@SCHIZO_FREQ
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3h
My stance with the tariffs is basically
Everyone I know who's been wrong about literally everything for the last 10 years is SUPER pissed about them
So the 'inverse retard' indicator says it's probably fine
Rand Paul seems to disagree with you.
Reporters at the U.S. Capitol asked Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) about his views on tariffs.
They’re not only bad economically. They’re bad politically. The number one reason I think the President Trump won was because of high prices from inflation under Biden,” he said. “What happens if we still have lingering inflation, which we do? You have increased prices, not inflation, but increased prices on things that you tariff. I don’t think it’s going to be good for us politically, but it’s not good for the country either.”
Kentucky’s senior U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) has also been critical of the president’s tariff policies.
04-03-2025, 08:34 PM
Jeff Carlson
@themarketswork
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4h
The same people losing their minds over Trump's tariffs were cheering for inflationary stimulus and catastrophic levels of national debt. They supported global lockdowns during Covid. They also couldn't care less about you.
Measuring the health of the US solely by current markets has always been a fallacy. In large part because those markets are dominated by large global companies (The Magnificent 7) who derive much of their revenue and profits abroad.
The markets have been massively overvalued with roughly $15-20 Trillion of fiscal stimulus pumped into them over the last four years. There was a correction already waiting.
Financial markets are an indicator but they provide little or no measure of the financial health for average Americans who are struggling to meet their monthly needs. A two tier economy of asset holders and those who are increasingly left behind.
We transferred Trillions in wealth to China and traded our entire blue collar class for "You want fries with that". Absolutely insane. We [intentionally] lost all sight of comparative advantage and threw away our inherent leverage as the country of destination.
We have to do something. We're already facing immense problems. Nearly $37 Trillion in debt coupled with terminal, perpetual trade deficits that only get worse over time.
We're facing short-term pain with a longer-term payoff. Recapturing our internal infrastructure is hard but we have to do something—particularly after being led down the path of globalist failure for decades.
@themarketswork
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The same people losing their minds over Trump's tariffs were cheering for inflationary stimulus and catastrophic levels of national debt. They supported global lockdowns during Covid. They also couldn't care less about you.
Measuring the health of the US solely by current markets has always been a fallacy. In large part because those markets are dominated by large global companies (The Magnificent 7) who derive much of their revenue and profits abroad.
The markets have been massively overvalued with roughly $15-20 Trillion of fiscal stimulus pumped into them over the last four years. There was a correction already waiting.
Financial markets are an indicator but they provide little or no measure of the financial health for average Americans who are struggling to meet their monthly needs. A two tier economy of asset holders and those who are increasingly left behind.
We transferred Trillions in wealth to China and traded our entire blue collar class for "You want fries with that". Absolutely insane. We [intentionally] lost all sight of comparative advantage and threw away our inherent leverage as the country of destination.
We have to do something. We're already facing immense problems. Nearly $37 Trillion in debt coupled with terminal, perpetual trade deficits that only get worse over time.
We're facing short-term pain with a longer-term payoff. Recapturing our internal infrastructure is hard but we have to do something—particularly after being led down the path of globalist failure for decades.
04-03-2025, 08:51 PM
This is so easy to understand, even a liberal should get it.
Sean Davis
@seanmdav
America has become addicted to cheap foreign baubles and easy money (i.e., fake fiat currency) at the expense of its long-term economic health. We allowed ourselves to be transformed from a cast iron economy which made things into a largely paper economy which depends on the good graces of foreign nations for its own survival. This is a recipe for civilizational suicide.
We don’t make our own weapons, food, machines, vehicles, plastics, medicines, or computers. The whole COVID insanity, with its shutdowns and shortages and supply-chain chaos, was a blaring alarm warning us that the economy we thought was so strong was shockingly fragile.
Imagine a prosperous farmer, now surrounded by enemies and competitors, who over time outsourced most farming activities to his neighbors because they could do the work and provide the materials more cheaply than he could. He sold off his equipment and laid off his farm-hands because it was just easier and less expensive for others to do the work and maintain the machinery. But one day, his neighbors said no more, and now he finds himself in the position of being unable to fertilize his land, or plow his fields, or harvest his crops. Even if he had kept his old tractors and implements, he sold off all his welding equipment and spare parts and raw materials, so repairing anything would be impossible. On top of that, he doesn’t remember all that much about repairing the equipment anyway because he hasn’t done it for years.
So now he finds himself in control of once-fertile and productive land that he can’t utilize, and the people he used to rely on for help now refuse to lift a finger, because they see an opportunity to bankrupt their old neighbor and business partner, allowing them to buy up all that land for themselves at fire sale prices.
That’s where America now is as a country. We stripped our economy down and sold it for parts, happy to have the cash in our pockets and ignorant of the possibility the good times could ever end.
Trump has understood these dynamics for decades, and is trying to reset our priorities to give us an economy that isn’t built on a foundation of paper. That requires resetting all of our trade relationships and recreating the conditions that built an economy and civilization that together were the envy of the world.
There will of course be some short-term pain as part of that process. Muscles must ache before they grow stronger. And addicts have to go through withdrawal before they can come out clean on the other side. In fact, the angry reactions from self-styled “free traders” who have gotten rich off of our leaders mortgaging our country’s long-term economic health for short-term cash resemble the drug dealer enraged that one of his best customers is about to go clean. “You’ll never survive the withdrawal symptoms,” he says. “You want what I’m selling. You need it. You can’t live without it.”
The reality is we cannot survive if we continue to remain addicted to cheap foreign crap. We cannot survive if we are unable to make our own food and medicine and vehicles and weapons and computers. A farmer who is wholly dependent upon his enemies to plow and seed and fertilize and harvest his land is a farmer who will starve. Likewise, a nation that depends entirely on its enemies to power its economy is a nation destined to become history rather than shape it.
Sean Davis
@seanmdav
America has become addicted to cheap foreign baubles and easy money (i.e., fake fiat currency) at the expense of its long-term economic health. We allowed ourselves to be transformed from a cast iron economy which made things into a largely paper economy which depends on the good graces of foreign nations for its own survival. This is a recipe for civilizational suicide.
We don’t make our own weapons, food, machines, vehicles, plastics, medicines, or computers. The whole COVID insanity, with its shutdowns and shortages and supply-chain chaos, was a blaring alarm warning us that the economy we thought was so strong was shockingly fragile.
Imagine a prosperous farmer, now surrounded by enemies and competitors, who over time outsourced most farming activities to his neighbors because they could do the work and provide the materials more cheaply than he could. He sold off his equipment and laid off his farm-hands because it was just easier and less expensive for others to do the work and maintain the machinery. But one day, his neighbors said no more, and now he finds himself in the position of being unable to fertilize his land, or plow his fields, or harvest his crops. Even if he had kept his old tractors and implements, he sold off all his welding equipment and spare parts and raw materials, so repairing anything would be impossible. On top of that, he doesn’t remember all that much about repairing the equipment anyway because he hasn’t done it for years.
So now he finds himself in control of once-fertile and productive land that he can’t utilize, and the people he used to rely on for help now refuse to lift a finger, because they see an opportunity to bankrupt their old neighbor and business partner, allowing them to buy up all that land for themselves at fire sale prices.
That’s where America now is as a country. We stripped our economy down and sold it for parts, happy to have the cash in our pockets and ignorant of the possibility the good times could ever end.
Trump has understood these dynamics for decades, and is trying to reset our priorities to give us an economy that isn’t built on a foundation of paper. That requires resetting all of our trade relationships and recreating the conditions that built an economy and civilization that together were the envy of the world.
There will of course be some short-term pain as part of that process. Muscles must ache before they grow stronger. And addicts have to go through withdrawal before they can come out clean on the other side. In fact, the angry reactions from self-styled “free traders” who have gotten rich off of our leaders mortgaging our country’s long-term economic health for short-term cash resemble the drug dealer enraged that one of his best customers is about to go clean. “You’ll never survive the withdrawal symptoms,” he says. “You want what I’m selling. You need it. You can’t live without it.”
The reality is we cannot survive if we continue to remain addicted to cheap foreign crap. We cannot survive if we are unable to make our own food and medicine and vehicles and weapons and computers. A farmer who is wholly dependent upon his enemies to plow and seed and fertilize and harvest his land is a farmer who will starve. Likewise, a nation that depends entirely on its enemies to power its economy is a nation destined to become history rather than shape it.
04-03-2025, 09:33 PM
Walter Kirn
@walterkirn
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11h
The vision of the US as a giant bank served by a giant military and kept functioning by lots of poor people on bikes and in cars delivering food to the bankers and their adjuncts before returning to their rentals to enjoy crappy imported goods manufactured by the bankers' foreign clients has, well, failed to inspire.
@walterkirn
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11h
The vision of the US as a giant bank served by a giant military and kept functioning by lots of poor people on bikes and in cars delivering food to the bankers and their adjuncts before returning to their rentals to enjoy crappy imported goods manufactured by the bankers' foreign clients has, well, failed to inspire.
04-03-2025, 09:34 PM
Auron MacIntyre
@AuronMacintyre
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19h
WHY DO WE WANT TO MANUFACTURE ANTIBIOTICS IN THE UNITED STATES
THE YEAR IS 2025
Oh right because the pandemic revealed that allowing your geopolitical enemies to be the main source for critical items is retarded
@AuronMacintyre
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19h
WHY DO WE WANT TO MANUFACTURE ANTIBIOTICS IN THE UNITED STATES
THE YEAR IS 2025
Oh right because the pandemic revealed that allowing your geopolitical enemies to be the main source for critical items is retarded
04-03-2025, 09:35 PM
MAZE
@mazemoore
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23h
All these online economists are talking about how much reciprocal tariffs are going to hurt the economy.
Notice how none of them come out and say "arbitrary, massive trade imbalances are great for the American people"?
They have no problem with the people who sold us out, just with the guy trying to fix the problem.
@mazemoore
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23h
All these online economists are talking about how much reciprocal tariffs are going to hurt the economy.
Notice how none of them come out and say "arbitrary, massive trade imbalances are great for the American people"?
They have no problem with the people who sold us out, just with the guy trying to fix the problem.
04-03-2025, 09:36 PM
a newsman
@a_newsman
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Apr 2
I don’t know if the tariffs will work or not, but I do know all the worst people in American business, government and media who’ve happily sold out the working and middle class for as long as I’ve lived are uniformly against them and that has to count for something
@a_newsman
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Apr 2
I don’t know if the tariffs will work or not, but I do know all the worst people in American business, government and media who’ve happily sold out the working and middle class for as long as I’ve lived are uniformly against them and that has to count for something
04-03-2025, 09:42 PM
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Lomez
@L0m3z
Categories of tariff responses I've seen so far and my reactions to them:
1. Person who obviously has no idea what any of the implications are but really hates tariffs: dismissed
2. Person who obviously has no idea what any of the implications are but really loves tariffs: dismissed
3. Person who is smart and understands economics and really hates tariffs but also insists that we have to let in infinity immigrants to sustain the economy and has been consistently wrong on macro predictions over the last several years and in general has demonstrated he does not care about the things I care about: dismissed
4. Person who is smart and understands economics and really hates tariffs and generally cares about the things I care about but also has predicted the US economy is unsustainable as is, the dollar was headed for collapse anyway, and that China was inevitably going to eat our lunch: so it's a lose/lose, which then, at least we're trying something different
5. What is a tariff?: I feel you, brother
6. Person who is smart and understands economics who is open to the tariff policy but concerned the admin has not thought this all the way through and there are elements to the plan that seem half-baked and not up to meeting the particular circumstances we are currently in: Seems possible, but I'm guessing there is more to it than that.
7. Person who is smart and understands economics who is open to the tariff policy and trusts the admin is maintaining flexibility to respond to different potential outcomes from what is obviously a radical change in policy, both in the short and medium term, and understands there will be tradeoffs to this new policy that on the flip-side promote long term durability to prevent the outcome Person 4 was talking about: Ya, sounds right to me.
8. Trust the plan: Always.
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Lomez
@L0m3z
Categories of tariff responses I've seen so far and my reactions to them:
1. Person who obviously has no idea what any of the implications are but really hates tariffs: dismissed
2. Person who obviously has no idea what any of the implications are but really loves tariffs: dismissed
3. Person who is smart and understands economics and really hates tariffs but also insists that we have to let in infinity immigrants to sustain the economy and has been consistently wrong on macro predictions over the last several years and in general has demonstrated he does not care about the things I care about: dismissed
4. Person who is smart and understands economics and really hates tariffs and generally cares about the things I care about but also has predicted the US economy is unsustainable as is, the dollar was headed for collapse anyway, and that China was inevitably going to eat our lunch: so it's a lose/lose, which then, at least we're trying something different
5. What is a tariff?: I feel you, brother
6. Person who is smart and understands economics who is open to the tariff policy but concerned the admin has not thought this all the way through and there are elements to the plan that seem half-baked and not up to meeting the particular circumstances we are currently in: Seems possible, but I'm guessing there is more to it than that.
7. Person who is smart and understands economics who is open to the tariff policy and trusts the admin is maintaining flexibility to respond to different potential outcomes from what is obviously a radical change in policy, both in the short and medium term, and understands there will be tradeoffs to this new policy that on the flip-side promote long term durability to prevent the outcome Person 4 was talking about: Ya, sounds right to me.
8. Trust the plan: Always.
04-04-2025, 06:29 AM
(04-03-2025, 05:59 PM)SEKYFAN Wrote:My opinions aren't assigned to me like you guys.(04-03-2025, 05:10 PM)jetpilot Wrote: Lukas (computer) (3/AC)?
@SCHIZO_FREQ
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3h
My stance with the tariffs is basically
Everyone I know who's been wrong about literally everything for the last 10 years is SUPER pissed about them
So the 'inverse retard' indicator says it's probably fine
Rand Paul seems to disagree with you.
Reporters at the U.S. Capitol asked Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) about his views on tariffs.
They’re not only bad economically. They’re bad politically. The number one reason I think the President Trump won was because of high prices from inflation under Biden,” he said. “What happens if we still have lingering inflation, which we do? You have increased prices, not inflation, but increased prices on things that you tariff. I don’t think it’s going to be good for us politically, but it’s not good for the country either.”
Kentucky’s senior U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) has also been critical of the president’s tariff policies.
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Cernovich
@Cernovich
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[url=https://x.com/Cernovich/status/1907970056509898979]7h
Yes! Two issues that have been talked about, with no action.
- Trade deficit.
- National debt.
Mitch McConnell has been in office almost my entire life, what has he done about either? Made them worse!
04-04-2025, 06:30 AM
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Howard Lutnick
@howardlutnick
Trump’s been right on trade for 35 years. Washington sold out our workers. That ends today.
https://x.com/howardlutnick/status/1907569355434381751
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Howard Lutnick
@howardlutnick
Trump’s been right on trade for 35 years. Washington sold out our workers. That ends today.
https://x.com/howardlutnick/status/1907569355434381751
04-04-2025, 06:34 AM
Kurt Schlichter
@KurtSchlichter
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5h
I can’t tell if you Trump’s plan will work and repair America’s economy and strategic industrial capacity.
But I do know that the current situation where we have a bad economy and declining strategic industrial capacity is entirely the result of the same establishment people who are crying about tariffs right now, people who have not been right about a single thing in three decades.
You’re free to point out their triumphs, whether of the economy, foreign policy, or culture, in the last 30 years. Or even just one triumph.
Their incompetence has been so complete and so sustained that the mere fact that they oppose Trump’s plans supports his plans.
Again, while I have questions about tariffs, why would I ever blindly believe that finally, after decades, they’ve gotten something right this time?
@KurtSchlichter
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5h
I can’t tell if you Trump’s plan will work and repair America’s economy and strategic industrial capacity.
But I do know that the current situation where we have a bad economy and declining strategic industrial capacity is entirely the result of the same establishment people who are crying about tariffs right now, people who have not been right about a single thing in three decades.
You’re free to point out their triumphs, whether of the economy, foreign policy, or culture, in the last 30 years. Or even just one triumph.
Their incompetence has been so complete and so sustained that the mere fact that they oppose Trump’s plans supports his plans.
Again, while I have questions about tariffs, why would I ever blindly believe that finally, after decades, they’ve gotten something right this time?
04-04-2025, 06:39 AM
Sean Davis
@seanmdav
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7h
We were told that new markets would be opened for American manufacturers, and that America would also export freedom and democracy as part of its new trade deals.
What actually happened was those countries dumped heavily subsidized crap into our markets at below-cost prices, drove our manufacturers out of businesses, allowed us into their markets just long enough to steal our intellectual property, and then instead of America exporting freedom and democracy, we imported communism and social credit ideology and infrastructure into our economic and cultural bloodstream.
And if weren’t bad enough that our leaders transformed us from the world’s sole economic superpower into an economic vassal of communist China, it was our money that powered the rise of the Chinese military, which now threatens us and our allies across the globe.
The architects of those results now have the audacity to tell you you’re too stupid to understand why the exact opposite of what they promised is actually awesome.
@seanmdav
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We were told that new markets would be opened for American manufacturers, and that America would also export freedom and democracy as part of its new trade deals.
What actually happened was those countries dumped heavily subsidized crap into our markets at below-cost prices, drove our manufacturers out of businesses, allowed us into their markets just long enough to steal our intellectual property, and then instead of America exporting freedom and democracy, we imported communism and social credit ideology and infrastructure into our economic and cultural bloodstream.
And if weren’t bad enough that our leaders transformed us from the world’s sole economic superpower into an economic vassal of communist China, it was our money that powered the rise of the Chinese military, which now threatens us and our allies across the globe.
The architects of those results now have the audacity to tell you you’re too stupid to understand why the exact opposite of what they promised is actually awesome.
04-04-2025, 10:42 AM
Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes
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8h
1) 1996 Nancy Pelosi encourages all of Congress to back reciprocal tariffs
2) 2008 Bernie Sanders wants tariffs, says jobs are going overseas
3) 2018 Barack Obama calls for reciprocal tariffs
4) 1988 Donald Trump says foreign countries must pay tariffs
Only 1 hasn’t sold out
@WallStreetApes
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8h
1) 1996 Nancy Pelosi encourages all of Congress to back reciprocal tariffs
2) 2008 Bernie Sanders wants tariffs, says jobs are going overseas
3) 2018 Barack Obama calls for reciprocal tariffs
4) 1988 Donald Trump says foreign countries must pay tariffs
Only 1 hasn’t sold out
04-05-2025, 08:47 AM
Feni? Ammunition
@FenixAmmunition
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22h
The most enjoyable part of the tariff war will be the American public finding out just how many "American businesses" are nothing more than a lavish US-based home office for the marketing and logistics teams with warehouse space to store their Chinese imports.
No equipment, no machines. No factory.
Creating NOTHING.
Inventing NOTHING.
Building NOTHING.
Just a clever logo and a distribution chain.
Watch any episode of Shark Tank and you'll see it for yourself.
"Your margins are ONLY 60%?!? How can I possibly invest in you, there's nothing in it for me! We gotta make that product in China or you'll never attract private equity!"
Lmao. **** outta here.
@FenixAmmunition
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22h
The most enjoyable part of the tariff war will be the American public finding out just how many "American businesses" are nothing more than a lavish US-based home office for the marketing and logistics teams with warehouse space to store their Chinese imports.
No equipment, no machines. No factory.
Creating NOTHING.
Inventing NOTHING.
Building NOTHING.
Just a clever logo and a distribution chain.
Watch any episode of Shark Tank and you'll see it for yourself.
"Your margins are ONLY 60%?!? How can I possibly invest in you, there's nothing in it for me! We gotta make that product in China or you'll never attract private equity!"
Lmao. **** outta here.
04-05-2025, 09:24 AM
Catturd ™
@catturd2
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Liberals on X with $17.86 in their savings accounts, 12 credit cards maxed out at 23% interest rate, a 10 year car loan with an 18% interest rate, and a 30 year mortgage with no money down at a 7.8% interest rate ... want you to know why the self-made billionaire President's tariffs won't work, and why the richest man on the planet doesn't know how to cut waste and abuse.
@catturd2
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Liberals on X with $17.86 in their savings accounts, 12 credit cards maxed out at 23% interest rate, a 10 year car loan with an 18% interest rate, and a 30 year mortgage with no money down at a 7.8% interest rate ... want you to know why the self-made billionaire President's tariffs won't work, and why the richest man on the planet doesn't know how to cut waste and abuse.
04-05-2025, 10:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-05-2025, 10:52 AM by TheRealThing.)
Rand Paul and his father before him think everything could be solved if we went back on the gold standard and adhered to a budget based on the value of whatever amount of physical gold America has. IMHO, they do not understand what money is.
Money is just an idea and it is based on the things we need to live, and the scarcity or abundance or those things. Gold, petroleum, silver, gypsum, salt, diamonds, coal, rare earth minerals and metals, iron ore and on and on and on it goes. All of these things mankind requires, God has placed ln the ground. And we mine or drill to get our hands on them. What distinguishes gold to be so much more valuable than coal? Apart from being an excellent conductor, gold is worthless as far as sustaining life goes. Coal on the other hand fueled the industrial revolution, provided the electricity and heat that made America the leader of the world. Things have a perceived value, and changes in that perception changes the value. If people were starving they'd give a wheel barrel load of god for a cup of coffee and a donut.
THE REAL PROBLEM-
We went off the gold standard because well, money is just an idea. I mean, has anybody noticed how easily a dollar bill spends in comparison to a silver dollar which is a precious metal? It's the same. But during the Johnson Administration we decided to 'buy' folks out of poverty in this land. And since then we've managed to buy more-- than we can ever hope to pay for. Owing to the exponential nature of such foolish monetary policy we have therefore, been unable to live within our means. We called it "The Great Society Initiative.' And since that time the numbers of those who work and who are self sufficient have proportionally diminished relative to the numbers of those who do not until now, the equation is upside down. More people live on government subsidies than there are people working to pay for it all.
Compounding the issue is the inescapable fact that we have outsourced everything from energy, to food, to clothing to military hardware, to foreign lands. Trump is trying to undo the idiotics of expecting life to be door dashed to your government provided front door.
Despite the fact that all we're seeing here as far as unrest is concerned are the manifestations of the tax payer funded 'Resistance", over the next year or so we will see where all of this is going. Frankly I do not believe anybody KNOWS. I know what I am hoping.
Money is just an idea and it is based on the things we need to live, and the scarcity or abundance or those things. Gold, petroleum, silver, gypsum, salt, diamonds, coal, rare earth minerals and metals, iron ore and on and on and on it goes. All of these things mankind requires, God has placed ln the ground. And we mine or drill to get our hands on them. What distinguishes gold to be so much more valuable than coal? Apart from being an excellent conductor, gold is worthless as far as sustaining life goes. Coal on the other hand fueled the industrial revolution, provided the electricity and heat that made America the leader of the world. Things have a perceived value, and changes in that perception changes the value. If people were starving they'd give a wheel barrel load of god for a cup of coffee and a donut.
THE REAL PROBLEM-
We went off the gold standard because well, money is just an idea. I mean, has anybody noticed how easily a dollar bill spends in comparison to a silver dollar which is a precious metal? It's the same. But during the Johnson Administration we decided to 'buy' folks out of poverty in this land. And since then we've managed to buy more-- than we can ever hope to pay for. Owing to the exponential nature of such foolish monetary policy we have therefore, been unable to live within our means. We called it "The Great Society Initiative.' And since that time the numbers of those who work and who are self sufficient have proportionally diminished relative to the numbers of those who do not until now, the equation is upside down. More people live on government subsidies than there are people working to pay for it all.
Compounding the issue is the inescapable fact that we have outsourced everything from energy, to food, to clothing to military hardware, to foreign lands. Trump is trying to undo the idiotics of expecting life to be door dashed to your government provided front door.
Despite the fact that all we're seeing here as far as unrest is concerned are the manifestations of the tax payer funded 'Resistance", over the next year or so we will see where all of this is going. Frankly I do not believe anybody KNOWS. I know what I am hoping.
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