[SEKYFAN]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sig...2ca9&ei=10

If not Hegseth, who takes the fall for this unbelievable security breach?  Fortunately, no disaster came from this, but going forward, it's pretty scary.

[Hoot Gibson]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sig...2ca9&ei=10

If not Hegseth, who takes the fall for this unbelievable security breach?  Fortunately, no disaster came from this, but going forward, it's pretty scary.

 Who resigned when Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and other high level Democrats were caught repeatedly discussing top secret classified material on personal email accounts and using personal accounts to avoid FOIA disclosures. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Democracy is threatened! 

You have no clue how hypocritical you sound, do you? 

[jetpilot]

^^^And dumb. The propagandist "journalist" didn't receive any war plans. This event wasn't 1/1000000th as bad as the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal that got a bunch of people killed and $Billions worth of weapons left behind for the Taliban, and the brainwashed and ignorant libtards never complained. They bat 1.000 at looking like fools every time they speak. Oops I meant cut and paste from far-left propaganda sites.

[Hoot Gibson]

The real scandal here is that a member of Trump's inner circle has a reporter from The Atlantic in his contacts list.

[jetpilot]

The real scandal here is that a member of Trump's inner circle has a reporter from The Atlantic in his contacts list.

Exactly. Waiting for an explanation on that one.

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DNI Tulsi Gabbard confirms no classified information was shared with The Atlantic journalist in the Signal group chat.

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Karoline Leavitt

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Jeffrey Goldberg is well-known for his sensationalist spin. Here are the facts about his latest story:

1. No “war plans” were discussed.

2. No classified material was sent to the thread.

3. The White House Counsel’s Office has provided guidance on a number of different platforms for President Trump’s top officials to communicate as safely and efficiently as possible.

As the National Security Council stated, the White House is looking into how Goldberg’s number was inadvertently added to the thread.

Thanks to the strong and decisive leadership of President Trump, and everyone in the group, the Houthi strikes were successful and effective. Terrorists were killed and that’s what matters most to President Trump.

[SEKYFAN]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...89a3&ei=70

The Washington Examiner seems to believe that it's a big deal and are they not a conservative newspaper?  The Maga media doesn't seem to care though, at least publicly.

A MINDBOGGLING MISSTEP: As blunders go, this one is a doozy. But let’s be clear at the outset, the mistake by national security adviser Mike Waltz was not accidentally adding a journalist to a classified text message discussion. It was a violation of the most basic operational security precautions by conducting a group chat about real-world, real-time war plans over a commercial messaging app, Signal.

“What I will say, in order to illustrate the shocking recklessness of this Signal conversation, is that the Hegseth post contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing."

He was texting attack plans, when targets were going to be targeted, how they were going to be targeted, who was at the targets, when the next sequence of attacks were happening.”

[Old School Hound]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sig...2ca9&ei=10

If not Hegseth, who takes the fall for this unbelievable security breach?  Fortunately, no disaster came from this, but going forward, it's pretty scary.

It's gonna get worse. WAY worse...

[plantmanky]

Havent we been discussing blowing up Yemen since 2001?

[jetpilot]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sig...2ca9&ei=10

If not Hegseth, who takes the fall for this unbelievable security breach?  Fortunately, no disaster came from this, but going forward, it's pretty scary.

It's gonna get worse. WAY worse...

Worse than what? When the Biden administration pulled out of Afghanistan and got a bunch of people killed and left $$$ Billions of weapons behind for Taliban and other terrorist groups? Worse than sending hundreds of $$$ Billions to to Ukraine and getting zillions of people killed with no path to peace or victory? Taking the side of Hamas? Only idiots think it will be worse. Waiting for your counter argument which as always will never come...

[jetpilot]

Catturd ™
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Reminder ....

The Biden regime got 13 service members killed in the botched Afghanistan withdrawal, left 84 billion dollars of weaponry behind, left Americans behind and didn't even care - and not a single person was fired.

[jetpilot]

^^^And none of the libtards on here detected a problem. They have been exposed as ignorant on here time after time after time

[Shogun]

Discussing ANYTHING related to ongoing war plans through an unauthorized platform or with unauthorized personnel is an OPSEC violation. Make no mistake, if a lower enlisted had done this then they would be on the block. Troops are technically not allowed to even discuss when and where they will be deploying, much less active operations. I served in the military and held a TS clearance. I'm not saying Hegseth should resign, and we really don't know how commonplace acts like this have been in the past, but the whole situation just reeks of incompetence and needs to be addressed.

As some of you mentioned already though, the real concern should be how an unauthorized person made it into this group without anyone noticing. I saw something early that mentioned it was a Mike Waltz staffer who added the reporter to the group, so you've got an (potentially) unauthorized person adding an unauthorized person into a group chat where at the very least sensitive information is being discussed, all on an unauthorized platform. This particular situation is not the end of the world, but you better believe that our adversaries knowing this happened will embolden them to probe these platforms moving forward.

[SEKYFAN]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sig...2ca9&ei=10

If not Hegseth, who takes the fall for this unbelievable security breach?  Fortunately, no disaster came from this, but going forward, it's pretty scary.

It's gonna get worse. WAY worse...

Maybe not.  I heard a rumor that Hegseth told Trump that he couldn't drink and text at the same time........so he has decided to give up texting.

[Old School Hound]

I am not a fan of Mr Hegseth. I think he and Mr Trump will involve us in some dangerous activities before their eventual and inevitable demises.

[Old School Hound]

This is Joe Biden's fault, dammit to hell !!!!

[Hoot Gibson]

The only positive thing that can be said of Joe Biden's presidency is that he left office with a barely detectable pulse. 

Planning and successfully executing military operations, such as the one in Yemen, were way beyond the capability of Biden and his handlers.

[jetpilot]

Discussing ANYTHING related to ongoing war plans through an unauthorized platform or with unauthorized personnel is an OPSEC violation. Make no mistake, if a lower enlisted had done this then they would be on the block. Troops are technically not allowed to even discuss when and where they will be deploying, much less active operations. I served in the military and held a TS clearance. I'm not saying Hegseth should resign, and we really don't know how commonplace acts like this have been in the past, but the whole situation just reeks of incompetence and needs to be addressed.

As some of you mentioned already though, the real concern should be how an unauthorized person made it into this group without anyone noticing. I saw something early that mentioned it was a Mike Waltz staffer who added the reporter to the group, so you've got an (potentially) unauthorized person adding an unauthorized person into a group chat where at the very least sensitive information is being discussed, all on an unauthorized platform. This particular situation is not the end of the world, but you better believe that our adversaries knowing this happened will embolden them to probe these platforms moving forward.

Democrats were a lot happier when guys in the military were wearing dresses and Biden removed the Houthis' global terrorism organization designation.

[jetpilot]

Remember when Sec Def Lloyd Austin was off the job for two weeks last year, didn't tell anybody and nobody even noticed? Fun times.

[jetpilot]

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
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FLASHBACK: Gen Mark Milley said he would tell China ahead of time if the US was planning to attack, and had secret calls with China behind Trump’s back.

Was the media outraged about this???

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Stephen L. Miller
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Lloyd Austin gave the go ahead to drone strike a car full of kids in Kabul then went missing for three weeks and no one said a word because the president couldn't remember his own name.
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No SecDef would survive this in any other admin, and Hegseth may not. But unlike another admin it won’t happen bc lawmakers of said party publicly demand it but bc the prez gets irritated by media coverage portraying his people as clowns x.com/alexthomp/stat…

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"If the biggest scandal of the Trump administration is that a journalist found out in real time that we were killing terrorists, I think we're doing a pretty good job."
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@MichaelDuncan

[jetpilot]

Discussing ANYTHING related to ongoing war plans through an unauthorized platform or with unauthorized personnel is an OPSEC violation. Make no mistake, if a lower enlisted had done this then they would be on the block. Troops are technically not allowed to even discuss when and where they will be deploying, much less active operations. I served in the military and held a TS clearance. I'm not saying Hegseth should resign, and we really don't know how commonplace acts like this have been in the past, but the whole situation just reeks of incompetence and needs to be addressed.

As some of you mentioned already though, the real concern should be how an unauthorized person made it into this group without anyone noticing. I saw something early that mentioned it was a Mike Waltz staffer who added the reporter to the group, so you've got an (potentially) unauthorized person adding an unauthorized person into a group chat where at the very least sensitive information is being discussed, all on an unauthorized platform. This particular situation is not the end of the world, but you better believe that our adversaries knowing this happened will embolden them to probe these platforms moving forward.

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Alexa Henning


@alexahenning

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This story is stupid.

Widespread use started under Biden as the CIA Director testified yesterday, Signal was on his work device and desktop.

At ODNI when I got my phone, it was pre-installed.

The notion that “can you imagine if the Biden admin did this.”

Yea, bc they did.
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POLITICO

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Gabbard says Signal comes ‘pre-installed’ on government devices http://ow.ly/c2Jl1063Ab9

[Shogun]

Yeah like I said, I’m not surprised this isn’t the first time that it’s been used, but it is still not an approved platform for even controlled unclassified information, much less top secret information. No open source mobile app is, and I think after the last two days the reasons for that are pretty obvious.

[jetpilot]

It's now gone from war plans to not war plans but classified, from classified to not classified but sensitive, now to controlled unclassified whatever the hell that is. It's not a nothing burger but it is time to learn from it and move on. But of course the Dems won't because it's all they got; they can't talk about their policies because the vast majority of the population hates them.

[TD Hounds]

It's now gone from war plans to not war plans but classified, from classified to not classified but sensitive, now to controlled unclassified whatever the hell that is. It's not a nothing burger but it is time to learn from it and move on. But of course the Dems won't because it's all they got; they can't talk about their policies because the vast majority of the population hates them.

Let the dems stew in their own juices, if the libs on here and the others I’ve talked to haven’t gotten the memo let em keep doubling down on their very unpopular platform…. The only party in history crying over an administration cleaning up waste fraud abuse and these liberal judges aren’t doing anything but pissing people off, you know the majority that voted for all these things they’re trying to stop….

[Shogun]

It's now gone from war plans to not war plans but classified, from classified to not classified but sensitive, now to controlled unclassified whatever the hell that is. It's not a nothing burger but it is time to learn from it and move on. But of course the Dems won't because it's all they got; they can't talk about their policies because the vast majority of the population hates them.

What was discussed was definitely "war plans" and should have been classified, probably to a secret level. Controlled Unclassified Information is just information that has not been classified but still must be protected. The fact that senior officials in our government use the Signal app for communication would technically be Controlled Unclassified Information because adversaries could use that information to infiltrate state discussions. "War plans" is just what the media is throwing out because that's basically what they were and I guess it sounds sexier than operations briefings. Classified is what they should have been, and then there are levels to classification based on the potential for damage caused to equipment, personnel, or operations. The fact that senior US officials use the signal app for communication is, in my opinion, not a big deal, but it all comes down to the information being shared on there. Yes it is encrypted and the messages on it are not stored anywhere and eventually deleted (which is a completely separate, potential FOIA issue), but it is not US government controlled and as we have seen over the past few days can easily be compromised by simply adding an approved user to a group.

[jetpilot]

It's now gone from war plans to not war plans but classified, from classified to not classified but sensitive, now to controlled unclassified whatever the hell that is. It's not a nothing burger but it is time to learn from it and move on. But of course the Dems won't because it's all they got; they can't talk about their policies because the vast majority of the population hates them.

What was discussed was definitely "war plans" and should have been classified, probably to a secret level. Controlled Unclassified Information is just information that has not been classified but still must be protected. The fact that senior officials in our government use the Signal app for communication would technically be Controlled Unclassified Information because adversaries could use that information to infiltrate state discussions. "War plans" is just what the media is throwing out because that's basically what they were and I guess it sounds sexier than operations briefings. Classified is what they should have been, and then there are levels to classification based on the potential for damage caused to equipment, personnel, or operations. The fact that senior US officials use the signal app for communication is, in my opinion, not a big deal, but it all comes down to the information being shared on there. Yes it is encrypted and the messages on it are not stored anywhere and eventually deleted (which is a completely separate, potential FOIA issue), but it is not US government controlled and as we have seen over the past few days can easily be compromised by simply adding an approved user to a group.

I stopped reading after that, now we're all the way down to "should have" and "probably to" lol...




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So, let’s me get this straight. The Atlantic released the so-called “war plans” and those “plans” include: No names. No targets. No locations. No units. No routes. No sources. No methods. And no classified information.

Those are some really shitty war plans.

This only proves one thing: Jeff Goldberg has never seen a war plan or an “attack plan” (as he now calls it). Not even close.

As I type this, my team and I are traveling the INDOPACOM region, meeting w/ Commanders (the guys who make REAL “war plans”) and talking to troops.

We will continue to do our job, while the media does what it does best: peddle hoaxes.

[Hoot Gibson]

In a nutshell, those who participated in the group chat screwed up by using a fully encrypted Signal session instead of using Microsoft Teams on the NIPR (non-classified) network. The mistake did not cause anybody to suffer death or injury. The only reason that this story is still in the news is the Democrats' desperation to drive down President Trump's job approval rating.

Comparing this mistake to past screw-ups like Benghazi, the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, or Hillary Clinton's use of a personal server to store classified documents and then destroy records that were subject of subpoenas is ridiculous.

[jetpilot]

Also, there has to be a better way to control who is in the chat than "Hey, somebody tag JG."