[Old School Hound]

Every single American should be scared to death by this. But you know what?  I bet most Americans, including most all of the scholars on BGR, don't even know what happened late Friday night.

Even Methuselah, the GOP's 982 year-old senator, Chuck Grassley,  expressed concern over these firings of inspectors general. Trump is going to replace these  independent watchdogs with 17 of his loyalists. Not only is he not draining the swamp, the Mango Mussolini is filling up the swamp. Every single person who voted for this dictator wannabe should type out a formal apology in this thread.  Scary, scary stuff!!!  Congratulations, voters! Is this really what you were asking for?  Wait until they come for you and your family.

Since this was done in the cover of late night darkness on a weekend, open your eyes and read, BGR. My guess is that the indoctrination is too complete for it to matter to you.

The law requires a president to give Congress "substantive rationale, including detailed and case specific reasons" for the dismissals 30 days in advance.   America's wannabe autocrat gave none of that.

Read more here :

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-f...025-01-25/

[Hoot Gibson]

Adam Shiff? 

This sounds like a separation of powers issue. The president can fire anybody who reports to him in the executive branch. Inspectors General are political appointments. They work in the Executive Branch and Trump is the chief Executive. 

Democrats should sure Trump and let the Supreme Court decide about this executive action. That is not likely because they know the likely outcome.

[jetpilot]

"Every single American should be scared to death"
LOL libtards find 20 new things to be scared of daily. Trump has the power to fire them and glad he did. They were useless.

[Hoot Gibson]

The Supreme Court has ruled that the president's constitutional powers cannot be restricted by a Congressional action. Adam Schiff's law does not apply to any president who chooses to ignore it. 

Schiff needs to focus on following laws himself. Pam Bondi will not ignore his corruption the way that Merrick Garland did and Schiff cannot count on a Trump pardon to keep him out of jail.

[Maga Nuts]

Trump will have to pay those illegal firings of those independent inspectors. Didn't give a 30-day notice.
Lawyers are lining up to get involved.

[Hoot Gibson]

Trump can fire any political appointments that he wants to fire. They will receive no severance pay without Trump's approval. Liberals really are clueless when it comes to the U.S. Constitution and most other subjects.

[Maga Nuts]

Trump can fire any political appointments that he wants to fire. They will receive no severance pay without Trump's approval. Liberals really are clueless when it comes to the U.S. Constitution and most other subjects.

(b)

An Inspector General may be removed from office by the President. If an Inspector General is removed from office or is transferred to another position or location within an establishment, the President shall communicate in writing the reasons for any such removal or transfer to both Houses of Congress, not later than 30 days before the removal or transfer. Nothing in this subsection shall prohibit a personnel action otherwise authorized by law, other than transfer or removal.

[Hoot Gibson]

Trump can fire any political appointments that he wants to fire. They will receive no severance pay without Trump's approval. Liberals really are clueless when it comes to the U.S. Constitution and most other subjects.

(b)

An Inspector General may be removed from office by the President. If an Inspector General is removed from office or is transferred to another position or location within an establishment, the President shall communicate in writing the reasons for any such removal or transfer to both Houses of Congress, not later than 30 days before the removal or transfer. Nothing in this subsection shall prohibit a personnel action otherwise authorized by law, other than transfer or removal.

The law is unconstitutional and unenforceable. Watch and learn.

[Maga Nuts]

The Constitution says if both both houses pass a bill, and president signs the bill it becomes the law

Clause 2 Role of President
Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

[Hoot Gibson]

Unconditional laws are rendered moot all the time by the Supreme Court. If Democrats want to lose again, then they should sue Trump. He is doing the right thing by ignoring an unconditional infringement on his power to run the executive branch of government. Congress cannot diminish presidential power granted by the Constitution through legislation. 

Watch and learn. The Department of Justice will not enforce this unconditional law. Liberals are getting excited over nothing again.

[Maga Nuts]

It's not up to Trump's DOJ it will be up to the courts. Lawsuits are coming.
They have already stopped his Unconstitutional birthright citizenship crap

[Hoot Gibson]

Trump expected that the birthright citizenship would be decided by the Supreme Court. Everything is proceeding according to plan. 

If the Democrats are not tired off losing yet, then they can sue Trump over not following an unconstitutional law when he fired 18 Inspectors General without giving Congress advance notice. 

Watch and learn. There is no need for anybody to look like a fool forever. Trump is delivering some valuable lessons on how a real president governs.

[Old School Hound]

Besides my good friend, MAGA Nuts, and SEKY Fan , I am not interested in hearing anything other than a written apology from anyone on here that voted for an Fascist oligarchy headed up by the crazed Trump. I know MAGA Nuts and SEKY didn't vote for this mess and don't approve of these illegal and unethical firings.

For those who did vote the orange turd who rapes women, tries to overthrow a legitimately elected government, and continues to fill up the swamp, along with his ginormous pockets, please begin your letter of apology this way:

Dear OSH,

You were right about Trump all along. Please accept my apology for being so stupid and allowing my indoctrination into this horrible cult to affect what little rational thinking skills I possessed to begin with. I am truly, truly sorry for being an enemy of democracy. I promise to never support anything this evil orange-faced fascist wants, ever again...

[Hoot Gibson]

This is a politics and current events forum not a high school creative writing class. Only one of the forum's contributors confuse the two. I have no interest in reading the musings of imaginary friends or childish ad hominem attacks.

[jetpilot]

Libtards who were already borderline unstable before 1/20 are already needing a straightjacket after only one week of America first policies. Many will be confined to rubber rooms long before the next election. Especially ones who eat all their meds and have to wait half a month to get refills. Fun times. And the same people who never had one complaint the last 4 years. Imagine that. Like the great Catturd said, every day Trump is president feels like the 4th of July.

[Old School Hound]

Trump demands unquestioned loyalty but he has loyalty to no one. Those who worship him the most are the very people he secretly loathes. I'd like to know how many times he has called one of his MAGAt disciples an ignorant hillbilly. Those are probably the only times he has even spoken something that's true.

[Hoot Gibson]

Trump's VP has hillbilly roots and played an instrumental role in Trump's landslide win over Commie Kamala Harris. Trump has more respect for Corbin's residents than certain BGR members have for their neighbors.

[jetpilot]

Trump demands unquestioned loyalty but he has loyalty to no one. Those who worship him the most are the very people he secretly loathes.  I'd like to know how many times he has called one of his MAGAt disciples an ignorant hillbilly. Those are probably the only times he has even spoken something that's true.

1. What happens when a Dem disagrees with a Dem? We don't know because it's never happened. Dems don't demand loyalty? LOL!
2. You are a hillbilly.
3. You are ignorant.
4. That makes you an ignorant hillbilly.
5. You think Dems care about hillbillies, ignorant or not? LOL!
6. Go back to #4, you are now stuck in an idiot loop.

[Old School Hound]

Trump demands unquestioned loyalty but he has loyalty to no one. Those who worship him the most are the very people he secretly loathes.  I'd like to know how many times he has called one of his MAGAt disciples an ignorant hillbilly. Those are probably the only times he has even spoken something that's true.

1. What happens when a Dem disagrees with a Dem? We don't know because it's never happened. Dems don't demand loyalty? LOL!
2. You are a hillbilly.
3. You are ignorant.
4. That makes you an ignorant hillbilly.
5. You think Dems care about hillbillies, ignorant or not? LOL!
6. Go back to #4, you are now stuck in an idiot loop.

Not all Corbinites are hillbillies. A substantial part of them, sure.  There are a few critical thinking, erudite, Corbin natives, Old School being one of those.     Trump hates most Corbinites. Makes fun of them for idolizing his six-time bankrupt, twice divorced, two -time impeached,  34-time convicted felon ass.

[jetpilot]

Trump demands unquestioned loyalty but he has loyalty to no one. Those who worship him the most are the very people he secretly loathes.  I'd like to know how many times he has called one of his MAGAt disciples an ignorant hillbilly. Those are probably the only times he has even spoken something that's true.

1. What happens when a Dem disagrees with a Dem? We don't know because it's never happened. Dems don't demand loyalty? LOL!
2. You are a hillbilly.
3. You are ignorant.
4. That makes you an ignorant hillbilly.
5. You think Dems care about hillbillies, ignorant or not? LOL!
6. Go back to #4, you are now stuck in an idiot loop.

Not all Corbinites are hillbillies. A substantial part of them, sure.  There are a few critical thinking, erudite, Corbin natives, Old School being one of those.     Trump hates most Corbinites. Makes fun of them for idolizing his six-time bankrupt, twice divorced, two -time impeached,  34-time convicted felon ass.

If you are a critical thinker I'm the Easter Bunny. If you had ever shown even one instance of critical thought process on here I wouldn't know what you are going to say every single time on every single subject. You have no original thought, everything you say has already been said on far left media propaganda sites. Your opinions are assigned to you.

[Hoot Gibson]

Trump demands unquestioned loyalty but he has loyalty to no one. Those who worship him the most are the very people he secretly loathes.  I'd like to know how many times he has called one of his MAGAt disciples an ignorant hillbilly. Those are probably the only times he has even spoken something that's true.

1. What happens when a Dem disagrees with a Dem? We don't know because it's never happened. Dems don't demand loyalty? LOL!
2. You are a hillbilly.
3. You are ignorant.
4. That makes you an ignorant hillbilly.
5. You think Dems care about hillbillies, ignorant or not? LOL!
6. Go back to #4, you are now stuck in an idiot loop.

Not all Corbinites are hillbillies. A substantial part of them, sure.  There are a few critical thinking, erudite, Corbin natives, Old School being one of those.     Trump hates most Corbinites. Makes fun of them for idolizing his six-time bankrupt, twice divorced, two -time impeached,  34-time convicted felon ass.

If you are a critical thinker I'm the Easter Bunny. If you had ever shown even one instance of critical thought process on here I wouldn't know what you are going to say every single time on every single subject. You have no original thought, everything you say has already been said on far left media propaganda sites. Your opinions are assigned to you.

You are not the Easter Bunny. Everything that you said in your post is true. Anybody can spend a few minutes watching CNN or MSNBC each day and know exactly what opinions are held by the rabid BGR left-wingers. There's not a single original thought among the lot of them.

[Old School Hound]

Trump demands unquestioned loyalty but he has loyalty to no one. Those who worship him the most are the very people he secretly loathes.  I'd like to know how many times he has called one of his MAGAt disciples an ignorant hillbilly. Those are probably the only times he has even spoken something that's true.

1. What happens when a Dem disagrees with a Dem? We don't know because it's never happened. Dems don't demand loyalty? LOL!
2. You are a hillbilly.
3. You are ignorant.
4. That makes you an ignorant hillbilly.
5. You think Dems care about hillbillies, ignorant or not? LOL!
6. Go back to #4, you are now stuck in an idiot loop.

Not all Corbinites are hillbillies. A substantial part of them, sure.  There are a few critical thinking, erudite, Corbin natives, Old School being one of those.     Trump hates most Corbinites. Makes fun of them for idolizing his six-time bankrupt, twice divorced, two -time impeached,  34-time convicted felon ass.

If you are a critical thinker I'm the Easter Bunny. If you had ever shown even one instance of critical thought process on here I wouldn't know what you are going to say every single time on every single subject. You have no original thought, everything you say has already been said on far left media propaganda sites. Your opinions are assigned to you.

You are not the Easter Bunny. Everything that you said in your post is true. Anybody can spend a few minutes watching CNN or MSNBC each day and know exactly what opinions are held by the rabid BGR left-wingers. There's not a single original thought among the lot of them.

I don't watch CNN or MSNBC.  I do watch the two seditionists on here who get their news from litter box sources and far right conspiracy theory sites. So, it's easy to know what's false. Just watch what the democracy-hating tandem posts and know the opposite is true.

Right, MAGA Nuts???

[jetpilot]

You lie or somehow by a billion miracles you always say the exact same sh!t they do every single time. You still can't grasp the very basic truth that everything bad in this country is not the fault of one political party in Washington DC. Anyone with an IQ or 7 or higher who isn't totally bat sh!t crazy brainwashed understands that. Until you at least get to that point (you can't) you come across as an ignorant buffoon to anyone with a lick of sense...

[Hoot Gibson]

1. What happens when a Dem disagrees with a Dem? We don't know because it's never happened. Dems don't demand loyalty? LOL!
2. You are a hillbilly.
3. You are ignorant.
4. That makes you an ignorant hillbilly.
5. You think Dems care about hillbillies, ignorant or not? LOL!
6. Go back to #4, you are now stuck in an idiot loop.

Not all Corbinites are hillbillies. A substantial part of them, sure.  There are a few critical thinking, erudite, Corbin natives, Old School being one of those.     Trump hates most Corbinites. Makes fun of them for idolizing his six-time bankrupt, twice divorced, two -time impeached,  34-time convicted felon ass.

If you are a critical thinker I'm the Easter Bunny. If you had ever shown even one instance of critical thought process on here I wouldn't know what you are going to say every single time on every single subject. You have no original thought, everything you say has already been said on far left media propaganda sites. Your opinions are assigned to you.

You are not the Easter Bunny. Everything that you said in your post is true. Anybody can spend a few minutes watching CNN or MSNBC each day and know exactly what opinions are held by the rabid BGR left-wingers. There's not a single original thought among the lot of them.

I don't watch CNN or MSNBC.  I do watch the two seditionists on here who get their news from litter box sources and far right conspiracy theory sites. So, it's easy to know what's false. Just watch what the democracy-hating tandem posts and know the opposite is true.

Right, MAGA Nuts???

I don't believe you because I don't believe in coincidences

[SEKYFAN]

Trump expected that the birthright citizenship would be decided by the Supreme Court. Everything is proceeding according to plan. 

If the Democrats are not tired off losing yet, then they can sue Trump over not following an unconstitutional law when he fired 18 Inspectors General without giving Congress advance notice. 

Watch and learn. There is no need for anybody to look like a fool forever. Trump is delivering some valuable lessons on how a real president governs.

You are really okay with Trump trying to go around all of the checks and balances that are in place for a reason.   The reason being to prevent someone like Trump from having unchecked power.  Trump is certainly making fools of a segment of his voters who are not on board for this.  They only voted for him due to eggs being too expensive and not to make him some kind of Autocratic Leader.

[Hoot Gibson]

Trump expected that the birthright citizenship would be decided by the Supreme Court. Everything is proceeding according to plan. 

If the Democrats are not tired off losing yet, then they can sue Trump over not following an unconstitutional law when he fired 18 Inspectors General without giving Congress advance notice. 

Watch and learn. There is no need for anybody to look like a fool forever. Trump is delivering some valuable lessons on how a real president governs.

You are really okay with Trump trying to go around all of the checks and balances that are in place for a reason.   The reason being to prevent someone like Trump from having unchecked power.  Trump is certainly making fools of a segment of his voters who are not on board for this.  They only voted for him due to eggs being too expensive and not to make him some kind of Autocratic Leader.

Once again, you show your extreme political bias. Trump is following the proper process to have the constitutionality of birthright citizenship determined by the courts. He signed an executive order, based on his legal staff's opinion that the 14th Amendment was never intended to cover children in cases where neither parent is in the country legally. Predictably, Democrats filled suit in a friendly federal jurisdiction to prevent the EO from taking effect. Now, the Judicial branch of our government will decide the issue. That is how our constitutional republic has worked since Marbury v. Madison was decided.

Your interpretation of Trump's action shows both your extreme political bias and your lack of understanding of the checks and balances of our Constitution. How many times did you object to Biden's EOs when the federal courts ruled them unconstitutional? If your answer is not "never," then cite a couple of examples  where you posted objections? I will eagerly await your response.

[Old School Hound]

Trump expected that the birthright citizenship would be decided by the Supreme Court. Everything is proceeding according to plan. 

If the Democrats are not tired off losing yet, then they can sue Trump over not following an unconstitutional law when he fired 18 Inspectors General without giving Congress advance notice. 

Watch and learn. There is no need for anybody to look like a fool forever. Trump is delivering some valuable lessons on how a real president governs.

You are really okay with Trump trying to go around all of the checks and balances that are in place for a reason.   The reason being to prevent someone like Trump from having unchecked power.  Trump is certainly making fools of a segment of his voters who are not on board for this.  They only voted for him due to eggs being too expensive and not to make him some kind of Autocratic Leader.

Ha Ha !!!     

Yeah, price of eggs is always their reason. They are not about to come out of the closet with the real reason--- that they are democracy -hating fascists, who get aroused every time orange guy lets a stinky fart. Don't anyone be fooled by the price of eggs thing they throw out. They idolize the Mango Mussolini because he's doing the very autocratic, anti-democracy things that wet their dreams. 100% of them support a Trump oligarchy. 100% of them would vote to re-elect him in 2028 and 2032, and not worry a bit about the unconstitutionality of their actions.  You will not hear a single one of those people on here, from Bowling Green to Pikeville,  from Covington to Corbin come out and say that this action, or ANY action, from Trump is a terrible thing.

They want an autocrat Trump stomping on the very freedoms their daddies and grandaddies fought to preserve. They are scared shitless that America is becoming too brown and they are losing their comfy, privileged way of life and maybe, even, their new gas guzzling SUV or their prized EDC X9 Wilson Combat handgun.  They want to gather at their local places of worship, (I mean places of gossip)on Sundays, where they can propagate stories about how Mrs Johnson next door has the audacity to date a man from Venezuela.  Oh yeah, price eggs, it's a real big thing, alright--- a big fat red herring!!!

[Hoot Gibson]

My previous post applies to Trump's EO regarding birthright citizenship, but his decision to fire 18 Solicitors General was also an appropriate action by Trump. Recent Supreme Court decisions have confirmed that Congress may not make laws that restrict presidential powers bestowed to the president by the Constitution. 

A president has the Constitutional right to his and fire employees of the executive branch, subject to the provisions of the U.S. Constitution, and the Constitution does not require Trump to notify Congress in advance. Democrats (or Congressional Republicans) are free to file suits in federal court if they disagree with that position. 

Trump has a duty to assert the constitutional powers of the presidency when Congress attempts to usurp those powers, just as Congress has the duty to protect it's own constitutional authority. Checks and balances on the power of each branch of the federal government exist for good reason.

[SEKYFAN]

Trump is manufacturing imaginary emergencies to bypass the rule of law, so I guess this is okay for you as well?   Are you still going to be a fan when they take away your job?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...a90d&ei=11


"By invoking the powers that come with the declaration of a national emergency, a president gains the ability, usually with just a signature on an executive order, to bypass laws and regulations," she wrote. "But at times, these proclamations are not tools for dealing with an actual crisis. Instead, they are used to sweep away impediments to a chief executive’s political agenda."


For instance, Trump is declaring an "energy emergency" even though oil production is now higher than it was when he left office — and a "border emergency" even though crossings are likewise down from what they were when former President Joe Biden took over.

"Given Trump’s hold over the GOP, it is hard to imagine that a Congress where both chambers are in Republican hands will do much to constrain him," she concluded. "So, expect to hear more manufactured emergencies coming from the Trump White House — each one chipping at the guardrails that limit presidential power."

[Hoot Gibson]

Trump is manufacturing imaginary emergencies to bypass the rule of law, so I guess this is okay for you as well?   Are you still going to be a fan when they take away your job?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...a90d&ei=11


"By invoking the powers that come with the declaration of a national emergency, a president gains the ability, usually with just a signature on an executive order, to bypass laws and regulations," she wrote. "But at times, these proclamations are not tools for dealing with an actual crisis. Instead, they are used to sweep away impediments to a chief executive’s political agenda."


For instance, Trump is declaring an "energy emergency" even though oil production is now higher than it was when he left office — and a "border emergency" even though crossings are likewise down from what they were when former President Joe Biden took over.

"Given Trump’s hold over the GOP, it is hard to imagine that a Congress where both chambers are in Republican hands will do much to constrain him," she concluded. "So, expect to hear more manufactured emergencies coming from the Trump White House — each one chipping at the guardrails that limit presidential power."

Worry about your own job, if you have one. I am not worried about mine. In 45 years, I have been unemployed for a total of one month. I have skills that are in high demand.

Biden created emergencies and Trump is cleaning up the many messes that he left. Biden was such a weak, corrupt, and ineffective president that he had to resort to blanket pardons to keep his family and himself out of jail.

You could have complained about Biden's daily colossal screw-ups, but instead you are attacking Trump for fixing things. Your lack of patriotism and bitter partisanship is pathetic.