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#1
What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?
#2
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?

Top 5 team based on talent?
What proven talent? Napier is a solid big man. He plays hard, takes charges and hustles. But he's under sized. Allen is a knock down shooter but isn't utilized that way. Keathley is Keathley and will keep the score close in most games. I think they are in a rebuilding era, that may last longer than 2 years.
#3
They aren’t playing well together right now because they do not like Braxton I’ve heard players say it and parents. He might work harder than everyone but basketball is a team game no kid should be shooting 25 shots a game I don’t care if your Stephen Curry. This is no offense to him but he needs to pass the ball and be a factor by not only scoring but makes plays and getting his teammates open. Kaden allen is a great 3 and D wing with his size like to see him get more touches and also Napier. Cade Nairn quit because he didn’t want to deal with Braxton anymore but he came back out because it’s his senior year. Need to bring back Doug let him try and fix what’s going on.

They are not top 5 in talent lol
#4
(12-19-2024, 03:00 PM)TheDick's-n-Karl's Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?

Top 5 team based on talent?
What proven talent? Napier is a solid big man. He plays hard, takes charges and hustles. But he's under sized. Allen is a knock down shooter but isn't utilized that way. Keathley is Keathley and will keep the score close in most games. I think they are in a rebuilding era, that may last longer than 2 years.

I think Napier is probably the best 5 in the district right now and Keithley is definitely the best 3 if he’s not the best player overall, no offense to Pente or Spriggs. Having two guys like that not even including the talent of Allen and Shutts who have both looked pretty solid should be enough to compete in a pretty small, pretty young 58th district. But they just don’t look competitive at all right now. Do you think there’s nothing they can do to compete? I just don’t see how you can have one of the best players in the region and not be competitive.
#5
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?
You and I agree on a lot of things, but there is no way we have a top five team based solely on talent. We only have 3-4 kids who are capable of playing varsity basketball from a physical standpoint. I just saw in another post where three or four people ranked Prestonsburg the worst team in the region. As you said Keithley should take fewer shots, but where is the production going to come from if he does start taking fewer shots? It's not like we have bench full of shooters or scores. I don't have the answer for this season, but if you want to start building a program, a coaching change must happen, and happen fast. There is zero excitement around the program, and I've been hearing from some who are close to the middle school program, there isn't much excitement there as well. I'm hoping they can get things turned around, but I'm afraid the coaching and talent isn't in place for that to happen. If we were to go with a new head coach after this year, you have to ask yourself, who would take the job? At this time it isn't a very attractive job, but it could be a good job with the right person. Hail Blackcats!
#6
(12-19-2024, 03:24 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?
You and I agree on a lot of things, but there is no way we have a top five team based solely on talent. We only have 3-4 kids who are capable of playing varsity basketball from a physical standpoint. I just saw in another post where three or four people ranked Prestonsburg the worst team in the region. As you said Keithley should take fewer shots, but where is the production going to come from if he does start taking fewer shots? It's not like we have bench full of shooters or scores. I don't have the answer for this season, but if you want to start building a program, a coaching change must happen, and happen fast. There is zero excitement around the program, and I've been hearing from some who are close to the middle school program, there isn't much excitement there as well. I'm hoping they can get things turned around, but I'm afraid the coaching and talent isn't in place for that to happen. If we were to go with a new head coach after this year, you have to ask yourself, who would take the job? At this time it isn't a very attractive job, but it could be a good job with the right person. Hail Blackcats!

Top 5 is probably a little bit over the top, I admit, but they still should be right in the mix for the 58th. 2 of the teams in the 58th are playing 8th graders a lot of the time as their 5's because they don't have anybody else! Pburg has 2 seniors that can play the 5. Floyd Central has been starting freshman Buck who is a great 3 as their 5! Napier is bigger, stronger and more skilled with the ball than the 5's on any of the other 3 teams, I think. He's not Maynard, Walters or Rose, but he's a good basketball player. I think the other 3 teams have a large advantage in guard play, certainly, but the Blackcats should own the paint in the 58th with their size, but they don't. We should outrebound every other team 2:1, but we don't. FC outrebounded Pburg 41-27 when they played and PG Taegen Slone led the team as with 8. The point guard! Napier only had 3. That's unbelievable, to me.
#7
Rather have pente and spriggs over him. I like team players not I play for myself type of kids

(12-19-2024, 03:42 PM)Red and Black Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:24 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?
You and I agree on a lot of things, but there is no way we have a top five team based solely on talent. We only have 3-4 kids who are capable of playing varsity basketball from a physical standpoint. I just saw in another post where three or four people ranked Prestonsburg the worst team in the region. As you said Keithley should take fewer shots, but where is the production going to come from if he does start taking fewer shots? It's not like we have bench full of shooters or scores. I don't have the answer for this season, but if you want to start building a program, a coaching change must happen, and happen fast. There is zero excitement around the program, and I've been hearing from some who are close to the middle school program, there isn't much excitement there as well. I'm hoping they can get things turned around, but I'm afraid the coaching and talent isn't in place for that to happen. If we were to go with a new head coach after this year, you have to ask yourself, who would take the job? At this time it isn't a very attractive job, but it could be a good job with the right person. Hail Blackcats!

Top 5 is probably a little bit over the top, I admit, but they still should be right in the mix for the 58th. 2 of the teams in the 58th are playing 8th graders a lot of the time as their 5's because they don't have anybody else! Pburg has 2 seniors that can play the 5. Floyd Central has been starting freshman Buck who is a great 3 as their 5! Napier is bigger, stronger and more skilled with the ball than the 5's on any of the other 3 teams, I think. He's not Maynard, Walters or Rose, but he's a good basketball player. I think the other 3 teams have a large advantage in guard play, certainly, but the Blackcats should own the paint in the 58th with their size, but they don't. We should outrebound every other team 2:1, but we don't. FC outrebounded Pburg 41-27 when they played and PG Taegen Slone led the team as with 8. The point guard! Napier only had 3. That's unbelievable, to me.

Floyd central has out rebounded every game this season. Lucas howard is a rebounding machine. Floyd has more size that any team in the 58th and they really ain’t much size in it.
#8
(12-19-2024, 03:44 PM)TheTruth! Wrote: Rather have pente and spriggs over him. I like team players not I play for myself type of kids

Both great senior basketball players, no doubt. I mean no disrespect to them. Do you think Keithley plays for himself because he feels like he doesn't have enough talent around him? Do you think it's coaching? Or do you think that's just how he's gonna play no matter what?
#9
(12-19-2024, 03:46 PM)Red and Black Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:44 PM)TheTruth! Wrote: Rather have pente and spriggs over him. I like team players not I play for myself type of kids

Both great senior basketball players, no doubt. I mean no disrespect to them. Do you think Keithley plays for himself because he feels like he doesn't have enough talent around him? Do you think it's coaching? Or do you think that's just how he's gonna play no matter what?

I wouldn’t say talent because Allen and Napier is good players don’t get me wrong. I could say it’s coaching because it’s what I’ve seen and heard but I do think that’s how he is going to player because he wants his. He needs to trust Allen and Napier more I don’t think he trusts his teammates and he thinks he can do it on his own. Just got to get it figured out.
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(12-19-2024, 03:46 PM)Red and Black Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:44 PM)TheTruth! Wrote: Rather have pente and spriggs over him. I like team players not I play for myself type of kids

Both great senior basketball players, no doubt. I mean no disrespect to them. Do you think Keithley plays for himself because he feels like he doesn't have enough talent around him? Do you think it's coaching? Or do you think that's just how he's gonna play no matter what?

The team had to change the whole offense because the staff realized Keathley wasn’t going to pass. And to answer one of your questions about “Keathley shooting less”: I think saying shooting less is not the correct phrase. He needs to take higher percentage shots. If he shoots 100 shots and is making 55%, not sure there’s an argument. But because the team sees his wild shots, they tend to take bad shots because they know they have to shoot before he gets it back or else they’ll not touch the ball again. Again, stats don’t lie and there’s not a single stat out there that says Keathley deserves the ball in his hands. The argument could be made that Napier should be shooting 114 shots because he’s at 65% on the season and Braxton shoot the least. 

Having been around this program and analyzing nearly every bit of game film (that’s what coaches do), it’s easy to see Keathley has a high ceiling, but give anyone else on the team as many shots as he takes by himself and they’d average 27 as well. And that’s not an assumption. Percentages state that as fact.

To expand on rebounding: watch what the team does. Everyone wants to talk about “boxing out” but that’s why Prestonsburg struggles rebounding. The minute a shot goes up, the team instantly turns away from the ball to find someone to put a body on. They have no awareness to the flight path of the ball. They don’t “crash” the glass like they should because previous coaches have shoved “box out” down their throat. It’s just not appropriate to always box out. You have athletic wings. Watch the ball and you’ll have a good indication of how it’s going to bounce off the rim. This team was never taught that and now find themselves in bad positions to rebound.
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(12-19-2024, 04:00 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:46 PM)Red and Black Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:44 PM)TheTruth! Wrote: Rather have pente and spriggs over him. I like team players not I play for myself type of kids

Both great senior basketball players, no doubt. I mean no disrespect to them. Do you think Keithley plays for himself because he feels like he doesn't have enough talent around him? Do you think it's coaching? Or do you think that's just how he's gonna play no matter what?

The team had to change the whole offense because the staff realized Keathley wasn’t going to pass. And to answer one of your questions about “Keathley shooting less”: I think saying shooting less is not the correct phrase. He needs to take higher percentage shots. If he shoots 100 shots and is making 55%, not sure there’s an argument. But because the team sees his wild shots, they tend to take bad shots because they know they have to shoot before he gets it back or else they’ll not touch the ball again. Again, stats don’t lie and there’s not a single stat out there that says Keathley deserves the ball in his hands. The argument could be made that Napier should be shooting 114 shots because he’s at 65% on the season and Braxton shoot the least. 

Having been around this program and analyzing nearly every bit of game film (that’s what coaches do), it’s easy to see Keathley has a high ceiling, but give anyone else on the team as many shots as he takes by himself and they’d average 27 as well. And that’s not an assumption. Percentages state that as fact.

I hadn't heard that they had changed the offense this week. That's good news. Anybody telling him that he could be D1 is just setting him up for failure. He's a great basketball talent, but D1 players are just built different than anybody in the 15th region right now. I don't think Watts and Onkst aren't even D1 players and they're both way better than everybody else around here. Hopefully the team will respond well to the offense change, but I still don't think that's enough. Tackett should probably start sitting Keithley for a few minutes when he starts going rogue, which he hasn't done so far. Keithley seems to snowball when he feels pressure to score and just starts jacking up bad shots every time he touches it. If Tackett sits him and talks to him before he starts to snowball then I think it will pay off for the team in the long run.
#12
(12-19-2024, 04:11 PM)Red and Black Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 04:00 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:46 PM)Red and Black Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:44 PM)TheTruth! Wrote: Rather have pente and spriggs over him. I like team players not I play for myself type of kids

Both great senior basketball players, no doubt. I mean no disrespect to them. Do you think Keithley plays for himself because he feels like he doesn't have enough talent around him? Do you think it's coaching? Or do you think that's just how he's gonna play no matter what?

The team had to change the whole offense because the staff realized Keathley wasn’t going to pass. And to answer one of your questions about “Keathley shooting less”: I think saying shooting less is not the correct phrase. He needs to take higher percentage shots. If he shoots 100 shots and is making 55%, not sure there’s an argument. But because the team sees his wild shots, they tend to take bad shots because they know they have to shoot before he gets it back or else they’ll not touch the ball again. Again, stats don’t lie and there’s not a single stat out there that says Keathley deserves the ball in his hands. The argument could be made that Napier should be shooting 114 shots because he’s at 65% on the season and Braxton shoot the least. 

Having been around this program and analyzing nearly every bit of game film (that’s what coaches do), it’s easy to see Keathley has a high ceiling, but give anyone else on the team as many shots as he takes by himself and they’d average 27 as well. And that’s not an assumption. Percentages state that as fact.

I hadn't heard that they had changed the offense this week. That's good news. Anybody telling him that he could be D1 is just setting him up for failure. He's a great basketball talent, but D1 players are just built different than anybody in the 15th region right now. I don't think Watts and Onkst aren't even D1 players and they're both way better than everybody else around here. Hopefully the team will respond well to the offense change, but I still don't think that's enough. Tackett should probably start sitting Keithley for a few minutes when he starts going rogue, which he hasn't done so far. Keithley seems to snowball when he feels pressure to score and just starts jacking up bad shots every time he touches it. If Tackett sits him and talks to him before he starts to snowball then I think it will pay off for the team in the long run.

It wasn’t this week. It was changed after the first couple of games but it still hasn’t worked. If I’m Coach: bench him for a game. What does it hurt? You’re winless. The team is miserable. He likely transfers anyway whether now or at the end of the season.
#13
(12-19-2024, 04:15 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 04:11 PM)Red and Black Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 04:00 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:46 PM)Red and Black Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:44 PM)TheTruth! Wrote: Rather have pente and spriggs over him. I like team players not I play for myself type of kids

Both great senior basketball players, no doubt. I mean no disrespect to them. Do you think Keithley plays for himself because he feels like he doesn't have enough talent around him? Do you think it's coaching? Or do you think that's just how he's gonna play no matter what?

The team had to change the whole offense because the staff realized Keathley wasn’t going to pass. And to answer one of your questions about “Keathley shooting less”: I think saying shooting less is not the correct phrase. He needs to take higher percentage shots. If he shoots 100 shots and is making 55%, not sure there’s an argument. But because the team sees his wild shots, they tend to take bad shots because they know they have to shoot before he gets it back or else they’ll not touch the ball again. Again, stats don’t lie and there’s not a single stat out there that says Keathley deserves the ball in his hands. The argument could be made that Napier should be shooting 114 shots because he’s at 65% on the season and Braxton shoot the least. 

Having been around this program and analyzing nearly every bit of game film (that’s what coaches do), it’s easy to see Keathley has a high ceiling, but give anyone else on the team as many shots as he takes by himself and they’d average 27 as well. And that’s not an assumption. Percentages state that as fact.

I hadn't heard that they had changed the offense this week. That's good news. Anybody telling him that he could be D1 is just setting him up for failure. He's a great basketball talent, but D1 players are just built different than anybody in the 15th region right now. I don't think Watts and Onkst aren't even D1 players and they're both way better than everybody else around here. Hopefully the team will respond well to the offense change, but I still don't think that's enough. Tackett should probably start sitting Keithley for a few minutes when he starts going rogue, which he hasn't done so far. Keithley seems to snowball when he feels pressure to score and just starts jacking up bad shots every time he touches it. If Tackett sits him and talks to him before he starts to snowball then I think it will pay off for the team in the long run.

It wasn’t this week. It was changed after the first couple of games but it still hasn’t worked. If I’m Coach: bench him for a game. What does it hurt? You’re winless. The team is miserable. He likely transfers anyway whether now or at the end of the season.

I haven't' seen film from Pineville or Lawrence, so I haven't seen it yet, but if Tackett is telling him to do something and he refuses to do it, then he should definitely be sitting. Should be no players bigger than the coach.
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#14
(12-19-2024, 03:24 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?
You and I agree on a lot of things, but there is no way we have a top five team based solely on talent. We only have 3-4 kids who are capable of playing varsity basketball from a physical standpoint. I just saw in another post where three or four people ranked Prestonsburg the worst team in the region. As you said Keithley should take fewer shots, but where is the production going to come from if he does start taking fewer shots? It's not like we have bench full of shooters or scores. I don't have the answer for this season, but if you want to start building a program, a coaching change must happen, and happen fast. There is zero excitement around the program, and I've been hearing from some who are close to the middle school program, there isn't much excitement there as well. I'm hoping they can get things turned around, but I'm afraid the coaching and talent isn't in place for that to happen. If we were to go with a new head coach after this year, you have to ask yourself, who would take the job? At this time it isn't a very attractive job, but it could be a good job with the right person. Hail Blackcats!

I’ve said it in other threads but after this season, give it to Doug Hopkins. I’ve been told by multiple people that the reason I’ve not been allowed to help (outside of probably spouting off on here Big Grin) is because my son plays. If that’s the case, I’d gladly step back on the sideline next season to help Doug. I don’t want to be a head coach. I thought I did but I don’t have the time with work and kids. But I’d gladly help Doug try and assemble a respectable program again.
#15
Some of the reasonings here, are as comical as the Jets grading players by their Madden ratings. No wonder both are shitshows.
#16
(12-19-2024, 06:29 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:24 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?
You and I agree on a lot of things, but there is no way we have a top five team based solely on talent. We only have 3-4 kids who are capable of playing varsity basketball from a physical standpoint. I just saw in another post where three or four people ranked Prestonsburg the worst team in the region. As you said Keithley should take fewer shots, but where is the production going to come from if he does start taking fewer shots? It's not like we have bench full of shooters or scores. I don't have the answer for this season, but if you want to start building a program, a coaching change must happen, and happen fast. There is zero excitement around the program, and I've been hearing from some who are close to the middle school program, there isn't much excitement there as well. I'm hoping they can get things turned around, but I'm afraid the coaching and talent isn't in place for that to happen. If we were to go with a new head coach after this year, you have to ask yourself, who would take the job? At this time it isn't a very attractive job, but it could be a good job with the right person. Hail Blackcats!

I’ve said it in other threads but after this season, give it to Doug Hopkins. I’ve been told by multiple people that the reason I’ve not been allowed to help (outside of probably spouting off on here Big Grin) is because my son plays. If that’s the case, I’d gladly step back on the sideline next season to help Doug. I don’t want to be a head coach. I thought I did but I don’t have the time with work and kids. But I’d gladly help Doug try and assemble a respectable program again.

Doug Hopkins, Justin Allen and Brandon Geartheart??????

(12-20-2024, 12:26 AM)TheTruth! Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 06:29 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:24 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?
You and I agree on a lot of things, but there is no way we have a top five team based solely on talent. We only have 3-4 kids who are capable of playing varsity basketball from a physical standpoint. I just saw in another post where three or four people ranked Prestonsburg the worst team in the region. As you said Keithley should take fewer shots, but where is the production going to come from if he does start taking fewer shots? It's not like we have bench full of shooters or scores. I don't have the answer for this season, but if you want to start building a program, a coaching change must happen, and happen fast. There is zero excitement around the program, and I've been hearing from some who are close to the middle school program, there isn't much excitement there as well. I'm hoping they can get things turned around, but I'm afraid the coaching and talent isn't in place for that to happen. If we were to go with a new head coach after this year, you have to ask yourself, who would take the job? At this time it isn't a very attractive job, but it could be a good job with the right person. Hail Blackcats!

I’ve said it in other threads but after this season, give it to Doug Hopkins. I’ve been told by multiple people that the reason I’ve not been allowed to help (outside of probably spouting off on here Big Grin) is because my son plays. If that’s the case, I’d gladly step back on the sideline next season to help Doug. I don’t want to be a head coach. I thought I did but I don’t have the time with work and kids. But I’d gladly help Doug try and assemble a respectable program again.

Doug Hopkins, Justin Allen and Brandon Geartheart?????? Sounds like a good coaching crew to me. 
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(12-20-2024, 12:26 AM)TheTruth! Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 06:29 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:24 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?
You and I agree on a lot of things, but there is no way we have a top five team based solely on talent. We only have 3-4 kids who are capable of playing varsity basketball from a physical standpoint. I just saw in another post where three or four people ranked Prestonsburg the worst team in the region. As you said Keithley should take fewer shots, but where is the production going to come from if he does start taking fewer shots? It's not like we have bench full of shooters or scores. I don't have the answer for this season, but if you want to start building a program, a coaching change must happen, and happen fast. There is zero excitement around the program, and I've been hearing from some who are close to the middle school program, there isn't much excitement there as well. I'm hoping they can get things turned around, but I'm afraid the coaching and talent isn't in place for that to happen. If we were to go with a new head coach after this year, you have to ask yourself, who would take the job? At this time it isn't a very attractive job, but it could be a good job with the right person. Hail Blackcats!

I’ve said it in other threads but after this season, give it to Doug Hopkins. I’ve been told by multiple people that the reason I’ve not been allowed to help (outside of probably spouting off on here Big Grin) is because my son plays. If that’s the case, I’d gladly step back on the sideline next season to help Doug. I don’t want to be a head coach. I thought I did but I don’t have the time with work and kids. But I’d gladly help Doug try and assemble a respectable program again.

Doug Hopkins, Justin Allen and Brandon Geartheart??????

(12-20-2024, 12:26 AM)TheTruth! Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 06:29 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:24 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?
You and I agree on a lot of things, but there is no way we have a top five team based solely on talent. We only have 3-4 kids who are capable of playing varsity basketball from a physical standpoint. I just saw in another post where three or four people ranked Prestonsburg the worst team in the region. As you said Keithley should take fewer shots, but where is the production going to come from if he does start taking fewer shots? It's not like we have bench full of shooters or scores. I don't have the answer for this season, but if you want to start building a program, a coaching change must happen, and happen fast. There is zero excitement around the program, and I've been hearing from some who are close to the middle school program, there isn't much excitement there as well. I'm hoping they can get things turned around, but I'm afraid the coaching and talent isn't in place for that to happen. If we were to go with a new head coach after this year, you have to ask yourself, who would take the job? At this time it isn't a very attractive job, but it could be a good job with the right person. Hail Blackcats!

I’ve said it in other threads but after this season, give it to Doug Hopkins. I’ve been told by multiple people that the reason I’ve not been allowed to help (outside of probably spouting off on here Big Grin) is because my son plays. If that’s the case, I’d gladly step back on the sideline next season to help Doug. I don’t want to be a head coach. I thought I did but I don’t have the time with work and kids. But I’d gladly help Doug try and assemble a respectable program again.

Doug Hopkins, Justin Allen and Brandon Geartheart?????? Sounds like a good coaching crew to me. 

Sad thing is, Prestonsburg had Gearheart and Allen and then let Gearheart go after one season. They'd be wise to reach out to him to see if he'd want it back. Its no secret I've been a fan of Justin Allen's since he played for Prestonsburg so if you could get him as an assistant, it's a no brainer. Sadly, no brainers seem to stump Floyd County athletics quite often.
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(12-20-2024, 01:04 AM)P. Fanning Wrote:
(12-20-2024, 12:26 AM)TheTruth! Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 06:29 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:24 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:47 PM)Red and Black Wrote: What do the Blackcats need to do to turn this season around? They’re probably one of the top 5 teams in the region based solely on talent, yet they’re 0-5 and dead last in the 15th according to pretty much everybody. I don’t think just saying “Keithley should take fewer shots” is the answer. I think the problem is deeper than that. This team just looks uninspired to be a team. They aren’t playing well together right now. The coaches on the bench have watched and coached more basketball than most (if not all) other coaching staffs in the 15th. I admit that I’ve been hitting the panic button pretty hard on them, but there is still a whole lot of basketball games left to be played and as of right now they’re only 0-1 in their district. There’s still time for this team to maximize its potential and make a run at the 58th, but what needs to happen for them to do so?
You and I agree on a lot of things, but there is no way we have a top five team based solely on talent. We only have 3-4 kids who are capable of playing varsity basketball from a physical standpoint. I just saw in another post where three or four people ranked Prestonsburg the worst team in the region. As you said Keithley should take fewer shots, but where is the production going to come from if he does start taking fewer shots? It's not like we have bench full of shooters or scores. I don't have the answer for this season, but if you want to start building a program, a coaching change must happen, and happen fast. There is zero excitement around the program, and I've been hearing from some who are close to the middle school program, there isn't much excitement there as well. I'm hoping they can get things turned around, but I'm afraid the coaching and talent isn't in place for that to happen. If we were to go with a new head coach after this year, you have to ask yourself, who would take the job? At this time it isn't a very attractive job, but it could be a good job with the right person. Hail Blackcats!

I’ve said it in other threads but after this season, give it to Doug Hopkins. I’ve been told by multiple people that the reason I’ve not been allowed to help (outside of probably spouting off on here Big Grin) is because my son plays. If that’s the case, I’d gladly step back on the sideline next season to help Doug. I don’t want to be a head coach. I thought I did but I don’t have the time with work and kids. But I’d gladly help Doug try and assemble a respectable program again.

Doug Hopkins, Justin Allen and Brandon Geartheart??????

(12-20-2024, 12:26 AM)TheTruth! Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 06:29 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 03:24 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote: You and I agree on a lot of things, but there is no way we have a top five team based solely on talent. We only have 3-4 kids who are capable of playing varsity basketball from a physical standpoint. I just saw in another post where three or four people ranked Prestonsburg the worst team in the region. As you said Keithley should take fewer shots, but where is the production going to come from if he does start taking fewer shots? It's not like we have bench full of shooters or scores. I don't have the answer for this season, but if you want to start building a program, a coaching change must happen, and happen fast. There is zero excitement around the program, and I've been hearing from some who are close to the middle school program, there isn't much excitement there as well. I'm hoping they can get things turned around, but I'm afraid the coaching and talent isn't in place for that to happen. If we were to go with a new head coach after this year, you have to ask yourself, who would take the job? At this time it isn't a very attractive job, but it could be a good job with the right person. Hail Blackcats!

I’ve said it in other threads but after this season, give it to Doug Hopkins. I’ve been told by multiple people that the reason I’ve not been allowed to help (outside of probably spouting off on here Big Grin) is because my son plays. If that’s the case, I’d gladly step back on the sideline next season to help Doug. I don’t want to be a head coach. I thought I did but I don’t have the time with work and kids. But I’d gladly help Doug try and assemble a respectable program again.

Doug Hopkins, Justin Allen and Brandon Geartheart?????? Sounds like a good coaching crew to me. 

Sad thing is, Prestonsburg had Gearheart and Allen and then let Gearheart go after one season. They'd be wise to reach out to him to see if he'd want it back. Its no secret I've been a fan of Justin Allen's since he played for Prestonsburg so if you could get him as an assistant, it's a no brainer. Sadly, no brainers seem to stump Floyd County athletics quite often.
I know personally that Brandon Gearheart would love to coach again. All those guys are good fellas though
#19
A Hopkins, Allen, Gearheart staff might bring out some big time athletes next year who usually only lift weights in the winter. Could be the shot in the arm that this program needs.
#20
This team has no identity, a true team identity. Every time someone mentions them, it's all Keathley all the time. They have some decent young players that don't get talked about much, if any at all, then you have Napier & Allen who are your veteran players, they get talked about more but not like they should.

It all boils down to coaching, bc this team doesn't have it. I've seen them play once thus far against FC, and you can tell there's a ton of dissention on this team, for obvious reasons, but it looks like from an outsiders perspective that Tackett doesn't have a grip on anything when it comes to team chemistry, trying to find a resolution to these problems. Like mentioned already, I guess a new offense was installed to try and fix those issues, but haven't worked any, if that's not going to work, then nothing will, but the fact that they're having to change things such as that just a few games into the season? Not a good sign at all. You really hate it for the Seniors on this team, but by the looks & sounds of it, they don't want to even be there anyways. It's easy to say ohhh you can't blame the Keathley kid, he's a kid, young and he thinks he can win every game 1-5, but at a certain point you have to start throwing it to him, am I right? In no way am I bashing the kid and I don't want anyone to think that's what I am trying to do, but he is a sophomore in high school now, he isn't in the 6-7th grade, at some point, someone has to pull him aside and say hey, you have to make some sacrifices for the betterment of this team, but at the same time it may just be too late to even attempt something like that, he is so accustomed to playing how he plays, sure would be tough for him to change now. I was honestly surprised he even went back to Pburg to begin with, but I think he will transfer after this season.

Maybe I am wrong or completely off base with all this, but to move the program forward you have to hire a head coach who would be motivated to turn things around, have a great rapport w/ the feeder schools and develop a good program w/ those coaches for the players coming up. Only thing you worry about is parents or anyone else not staying out of your way and not giving the adequate time to try and rebuild. Administration knocked it out of the park with the football HC hire, but they've obviously whiffed on basketball.
#21
(12-20-2024, 11:43 AM)-STAT- Wrote: This team has no identity, a true team identity. Every time someone mentions them, it's all Keathley all the time. They have some decent young players that don't get talked about much, if any at all, then you have Napier & Allen who are your veteran players, they get talked about more but not like they should.

It all boils down to coaching, bc this team doesn't have it. I've seen them play once thus far against FC, and you can tell there's a ton of dissention on this team, for obvious reasons, but it looks like from an outsiders perspective that Tackett doesn't have a grip on anything when it comes to team chemistry, trying to find a resolution to these problems. Like mentioned already, I guess a new offense was installed to try and fix those issues, but haven't worked any, if that's not going to work, then nothing will, but the fact that they're having to change things such as that just a few games into the season? Not a good sign at all. You really hate it for the Seniors on this team, but by the looks & sounds of it, they don't want to even be there anyways. It's easy to say ohhh you can't blame the Keathley kid, he's a kid, young and he thinks he can win every game 1-5, but at a certain point you have to start throwing it to him, am I right? In no way am I bashing the kid and I don't want anyone to think that's what I am trying to do, but he is a sophomore in high school now, he isn't in the 6-7th grade, at some point, someone has to pull him aside and say hey, you have to make some sacrifices for the betterment of this team, but at the same time it may just be too late to even attempt something like that, he is so accustomed to playing how he plays, sure would be tough for him to change now. I was honestly surprised he even went back to Pburg to begin with, but I think he will transfer after this season.

Maybe I am wrong or completely off base with all this, but to move the program forward you have to hire a head coach who would be motivated to turn things around, have a great rapport w/ the feeder schools and develop a good program w/ those coaches for the players coming up. Only thing you worry about is parents or anyone else not staying out of your way and not giving the adequate time to try and rebuild. Administration knocked it out of the park with the football HC hire, but they've obviously whiffed on basketball.

I absolutely love Harold as a person and have zero problems with him being the coach. I knew going into this, however, how challenging this was going to be if you didn’t make a “splash” hire. I understand the need for continuity at Prestonsburg because my son has played for 4 coaches in 5 years. But continuity will come if they make one call. I think you have people waiting for this opportunity who wouldn’t go anywhere and it’s coaches that have already had the support of these parents before.
#22
I see that Doug Hopkins is a popular name to possibly be the next coach. My question is, not knowing a lot about him, what does he bring to the table? I know that he coached the Betsy Layne High School girls team for a couple of years, and coached at the elementary and middle school level. Other than that, I'm not to familiar with him.
#23
(12-20-2024, 01:49 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote: I see that Doug Hopkins is a popular name to possibly be the next coach. My question is, not knowing a lot about him, what does he bring to the table? I know that he coached the Betsy Layne High School girls team for a couple of years, and coached at the elementary and middle school level. Other than that, I'm not to familiar with him.

Very good basketball mind. Took the middle school to back to back final 4’s and a state championship.
#24
(12-20-2024, 01:49 PM)Blackcat 4 Life Wrote: I see that Doug Hopkins is a popular name to possibly be the next coach. My question is, not knowing a lot about him, what does he bring to the table? I know that he coached the Betsy Layne High School girls team for a couple of years, and coached at the elementary and middle school level. Other than that, I'm not to familiar with him.

I'll reserve my thoughts about Dougie. I understand that he would definitely be the one call they'd have to make, but the administration should broaden their horizons if they are going a new direction for next season, I'll just leave it at that.
#25
What happened with Doug at Betsy Layne? Did he resign suddenly? Genuinely asking.
#26
I’m hearing rumblings of a big time 15th region name next year. Would send ripples through the 15th if it comes true.
#27
(12-20-2024, 01:19 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-20-2024, 11:43 AM)-STAT- Wrote: This team has no identity, a true team identity. Every time someone mentions them, it's all Keathley all the time. They have some decent young players that don't get talked about much, if any at all, then you have Napier & Allen who are your veteran players, they get talked about more but not like they should.

It all boils down to coaching, bc this team doesn't have it. I've seen them play once thus far against FC, and you can tell there's a ton of dissention on this team, for obvious reasons, but it looks like from an outsiders perspective that Tackett doesn't have a grip on anything when it comes to team chemistry, trying to find a resolution to these problems. Like mentioned already, I guess a new offense was installed to try and fix those issues, but haven't worked any, if that's not going to work, then nothing will, but the fact that they're having to change things such as that just a few games into the season? Not a good sign at all. You really hate it for the Seniors on this team, but by the looks & sounds of it, they don't want to even be there anyways. It's easy to say ohhh you can't blame the Keathley kid, he's a kid, young and he thinks he can win every game 1-5, but at a certain point you have to start throwing it to him, am I right? In no way am I bashing the kid and I don't want anyone to think that's what I am trying to do, but he is a sophomore in high school now, he isn't in the 6-7th grade, at some point, someone has to pull him aside and say hey, you have to make some sacrifices for the betterment of this team, but at the same time it may just be too late to even attempt something like that, he is so accustomed to playing how he plays, sure would be tough for him to change now. I was honestly surprised he even went back to Pburg to begin with, but I think he will transfer after this season.

Maybe I am wrong or completely off base with all this, but to move the program forward you have to hire a head coach who would be motivated to turn things around, have a great rapport w/ the feeder schools and develop a good program w/ those coaches for the players coming up. Only thing you worry about is parents or anyone else not staying out of your way and not giving the adequate time to try and rebuild. Administration knocked it out of the park with the football HC hire, but they've obviously whiffed on basketball.

I absolutely love Harold as a person and have zero problems with him being the coach. I knew going into this, however, how challenging this was going to be if you didn’t make a “splash” hire. I understand the need for continuity at Prestonsburg because my son has played for 4 coaches in 5 years. But continuity will come if they make one call. I think you have people waiting for this opportunity who wouldn’t go anywhere and it’s coaches that have already had the support of these parents before.

(12-20-2024, 11:34 PM)averagejoe01 Wrote: I’m hearing rumblings of a big time 15th region name next year. Would send ripples through the 15th if it comes true.

Like who?
#28
(12-20-2024, 11:34 PM)averagejoe01 Wrote: I’m hearing rumblings of a big time 15th region name next year. Would send ripples through the 15th if it comes true.
Ah, the infamous "hearing" post yet again. Would love to know what you heard, or is that too much to ask?
#29
(12-21-2024, 12:43 AM)P. Fanning Wrote:
(12-20-2024, 11:34 PM)averagejoe01 Wrote: I’m hearing rumblings of a big time 15th region name next year. Would send ripples through the 15th if it comes true.
Ah, the infamous "hearing" post yet again. Would love to know what you heard, or is that too much to ask?

It’s not true. I don’t even know what it is and I already know it’s not true. This is Harold’s job until he doesn’t want it anymore. I’m not gonna lie and act like I know what he’s going to do but I’d be shocked if he worked this hard to get back at Prestonsburg to only coach for one season.
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(12-21-2024, 12:08 AM)TheTruth! Wrote:
(12-20-2024, 01:19 PM)BCF4L Wrote:
(12-20-2024, 11:43 AM)-STAT- Wrote: This team has no identity, a true team identity. Every time someone mentions them, it's all Keathley all the time. They have some decent young players that don't get talked about much, if any at all, then you have Napier & Allen who are your veteran players, they get talked about more but not like they should.

It all boils down to coaching, bc this team doesn't have it. I've seen them play once thus far against FC, and you can tell there's a ton of dissention on this team, for obvious reasons, but it looks like from an outsiders perspective that Tackett doesn't have a grip on anything when it comes to team chemistry, trying to find a resolution to these problems. Like mentioned already, I guess a new offense was installed to try and fix those issues, but haven't worked any, if that's not going to work, then nothing will, but the fact that they're having to change things such as that just a few games into the season? Not a good sign at all. You really hate it for the Seniors on this team, but by the looks & sounds of it, they don't want to even be there anyways. It's easy to say ohhh you can't blame the Keathley kid, he's a kid, young and he thinks he can win every game 1-5, but at a certain point you have to start throwing it to him, am I right? In no way am I bashing the kid and I don't want anyone to think that's what I am trying to do, but he is a sophomore in high school now, he isn't in the 6-7th grade, at some point, someone has to pull him aside and say hey, you have to make some sacrifices for the betterment of this team, but at the same time it may just be too late to even attempt something like that, he is so accustomed to playing how he plays, sure would be tough for him to change now. I was honestly surprised he even went back to Pburg to begin with, but I think he will transfer after this season.

Maybe I am wrong or completely off base with all this, but to move the program forward you have to hire a head coach who would be motivated to turn things around, have a great rapport w/ the feeder schools and develop a good program w/ those coaches for the players coming up. Only thing you worry about is parents or anyone else not staying out of your way and not giving the adequate time to try and rebuild. Administration knocked it out of the park with the football HC hire, but they've obviously whiffed on basketball.

I absolutely love Harold as a person and have zero problems with him being the coach. I knew going into this, however, how challenging this was going to be if you didn’t make a “splash” hire. I understand the need for continuity at Prestonsburg because my son has played for 4 coaches in 5 years. But continuity will come if they make one call. I think you have people waiting for this opportunity who wouldn’t go anywhere and it’s coaches that have already had the support of these parents before.

(12-20-2024, 11:34 PM)averagejoe01 Wrote: I’m hearing rumblings of a big time 15th region name next year. Would send ripples through the 15th if it comes true.

Like who?
I was told by a very good source that there was mutual interest between Pburg and Hicks. Like I said it’s a rumor but it’s from someone pretty high up in Prestonburg.

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