Belfry vs Johnson Central Srimmage

Mr. Right · 08-04-2006, 11:28 PM

I was unable to attend. How did both teams look?

Meaty · 08-04-2006, 11:30 PM

i am also curious to see the outcome of this scrimmage... it sounds like a good one

Meaty · 08-05-2006, 12:02 AM

I just heard Johnson Central dominated Belfry 27-3... I am shocked by this score

**BlackcatAlum** · 08-05-2006, 12:08 AM

Can anyone confirm this ?

sportsfreak2 · 08-05-2006, 12:15 AM

Don't be shocked at the score. If one thing that you learn from Haywood is that scrimmages are scrimmages. Belfry looked a little slow tonight, but give Johnson Central credit they can be a dangerous team this year. Belfry will be a contender in 2A this year. I will even say that the winner between Belfry and Russell will WIN 2A.

bball fan · 08-05-2006, 12:23 AM

SomersetJumpers_7 Wrote:I just heard Johnson Central dominated Belfry 27-3... I am shocked by this score

The reason that this shouldn't shock you....2 words....PRE-SEASON!!! Pre-season scores in any sport are worthless except for coaches and teams to get a good idea of what needs to be worked on. Both of these teams will be very good!! Belfry always starts slow. It sems like every year in the PC Bowl people say they are down, then by mid-season they are the same ole Belfry!!

easternkysportsguru · 08-05-2006, 12:27 AM

Belfry needs work regardless of a scrimmage just being a scrimmage. JC looked really good on both sides of the ball and Dials from JC ( LC transfer ) had a good game.

JD If U Please · 08-05-2006, 12:29 AM

Belfry looked like, well Belfry in the pre-season......

Johnson Central is going to be gooooood

TheGreatest · 08-05-2006, 12:39 AM

Good job JC...defintiely looking good

**Beef** · 08-05-2006, 01:11 AM

sportsfreak2 Wrote:Don't be shocked at the score. If one thing that you learn from Haywood is that scrimmages are scrimmages. Belfry looked a little slow tonight, but give Johnson Central credit they can be a dangerous team this year. Belfry will be a contender in 2A this year. I will even say that the winner between Belfry and Russell will WIN 2A.

I would love to see JC make some noise down state. They have a tough AAA region but they showed some promise last season just hope they can keep it up!!

~~Kayaker~~ · 08-05-2006, 01:41 AM

Sounds like Johnson Central is what i thought they would be. Although I can guarantee you that the Belfry team that you saw tonight at the scrimmage is not the Belfry team you will see come district play and come playoff time. JC shows balance in its offensive attack and will greatly help this teams chances of going where they have wanted to go for a while. Keep it up Eagles!

**Batpuff** · 08-05-2006, 01:58 AM

Well i bet they didnt run everything they have worked on bot sides that is, for the simple reason coaches from all over there to watch.

Meaty · 08-05-2006, 01:43 PM

bball fan Wrote:The reason that this shouldn't shock you....2 words....PRE-SEASON!!! Pre-season scores in any sport are worthless except for coaches and teams to get a good idea of what needs to be worked on. Both of these teams will be very good!! Belfry always starts slow. It sems like every year in the PC Bowl people say they are down, then by mid-season they are the same ole Belfry!!

Yes that is true. Johnson Central sounds like they are going to have a heck of a team this year. I look for both Belfry and JC to make a run this year.

All-American Lineman · 08-05-2006, 01:47 PM

good job JC that is impressive

**Poseidon** · 08-05-2006, 02:10 PM

easternkysportsguru Wrote:Belfry needs work regardless of a scrimmage just being a scrimmage. JC looked really good on both sides of the ball and Dials from JC ( LC transfer ) had a good game.

Pre-season or not, a team should have the mindset that they are there to win no matter what, This years Belfry team obviously needs some work in this area, but so do many other teams this time of year.

**BelfryJustice** · 08-05-2006, 02:19 PM

Belfry never has a good showing in preseason.

**Old School** · 08-05-2006, 02:47 PM

I know both coaches will say they have a lot of area's that need improvement, but what were some of the positives for both teams?

**MVP2** · 08-05-2006, 03:22 PM

Good Job JC

THUNDERCHILD · 08-05-2006, 03:42 PM

Im sure Haywood looked at alot of different players in positions too. If you ask Haywood 2 min's before the end of the teams last game of the season he'd tell you "We're still working to get better, there's some areas we need to improve in." His mind is always working.

BIG JOHN · 08-05-2006, 04:58 PM

Belfry looked really lathargic. J.C. picked them apart with the pass. JC did score 4 td's but the last one had a yellow hanky in the middle of the field for an obvious block in the back. But none the less J.C. looked really good. Lots of respect from both these squads for each other.

BIG JOHN · 08-05-2006, 05:01 PM

So true!!! I saw 2 from lawrence county, 1 from P-burg, and 2 from logan wv which will play J.C. later if I'm not mistaken. Scout coaches that is.

Hoops Lover · 08-05-2006, 08:35 PM

Hey gang...both of the state chmpionship teams looked bad in the preseason too...so this year's "mindset" is no different than from years past...the main thing in a scrimmage is to get better...and to evaluate individual personnel so as to find out who can play where..some coaches treat them like the Superbowl...the Belfry staff treats them like scrimmages..always have...just like they treat the summer passing leagues...Belfry may have NEVER even won a single one of those things..they DO need work...have big holes to fill...and filling them with young players takes time..

LUMBERJACK'06 · 08-06-2006, 08:23 AM

not to step on anyones toes or nuttin but it sounds like to me the belfry fans are makin excuses for the poor showin, come one huys its BELRY theyll get it right and make thier run for that state title as always.....

LUMBERJACK'06 · 08-06-2006, 08:24 AM

congrats to Jc on a early win against a tough team good luck this year to both teams

**BelfryJustice** · 08-06-2006, 10:21 AM

LUMBERJACK'06 Wrote:not to step on anyones toes or nuttin but it sounds like to me the belfry fans are makin excuses for the poor showin, come one huys its BELRY theyll get it right and make thier run for that state title as always.....

You are so wrong my friend. We are just telling how it is and has been at Belfry for many year. We will be ready when the time comes. Preseason doesn't go down as a W or L. Belfry will use this as a learning tool and that is all. They will be fine when the season starts.

Hoops Lover · 08-06-2006, 02:21 PM

Making excuses??? Wow...nice try pal...I guess you count scrimmages as part of your team's win-loss total...if I am not mistaken, JC has beaten Belfry the last three times they have scrimmaged..I'll take playoff wins over scrimmage wins ANYTIME.

~~Kayaker~~ · 08-06-2006, 03:13 PM

Hoops Lover Wrote:Making excuses??? Wow...nice try pal...I guess you count scrimmages as part of your team's win-loss total...if I am not mistaken, JC has beaten Belfry the last three times they have scrimmaged..I'll take playoff wins over scrimmage wins ANYTIME.

I agree. Like I said I know for a FACT that Belfry doesnt play all of its starters in scrimmages and i am a JC follower. When I played for JC a couple years back we always beat Belfry in the scrimmages but they always had better seasons than we had. This is used to determine where you team stands and where the team needs to improve. I think both teams are going to be very solid teams this year but the Belfry followers are not making excuses i assure you that cause i played against them in this scrimmages for JC.

Tough Turf · 08-06-2006, 04:44 PM

LUMBERJACK'06 Wrote:not to step on anyones toes or nuttin but it sounds like to me the belfry fans are makin excuses for the poor showin, come one huys its BELRY theyll get it right and make thier run for that state title as always.....

Yea really...... When another team plays another team
you have to be jack up wanting to win. my god it is in full pads people going 100 miles an hour. I would want to win everything from passing game to football game.....I guess I have a win attiude.

**BelfryJustice** · 08-06-2006, 08:01 PM

Tough Turf Wrote:Yea really...... When another team plays another team
you have to be jack up wanting to win. my god it is in full pads people going 100 miles an hour. I would want to win everything from passing game to football game.....I guess I have a win attiude.

Preseason is a learning tool at Belfry. We save the winning attitude for the real thing.

Tongue

irateSho

Sarrr · 08-07-2006, 01:12 AM

I'll say this: as a former lineman, Belfry REALLY needs to work on the O-line. They were just porous the other night. When your QB gets hit faking a handoff on a play action pass, something is way wrong. Also, the RBs weren't really running THAT hard. I don't know if they were just slow in the heat, slow in the preseason, or if they've slowed down this year, but both Maydo and CC looked a lil sloppy compared to last year. Phil looked great though. I'd have liked to have seen more of Heath with the first string offense, but I can't take anything away from how Phil ran when he had the opportunity. He had a great run and would have scored but barely stepped out.

Defensively, we did well other than against the pass, and 2 running plays. Either JC scored on the run, or we shut them down completely. IIRC they ran for 2 TDs, and all the rest of their running plays were stopped at the line or behind it. Also, they exploited a certain sophomore DE who shall remain nameless, but who should have been pass rushing and not covering recievers in the first place.

TBH though, I was only disappointed in the O-line. Now, if JC has 3 or 4 first team D-linemen when all state is announced, then I will not be nearly as disappointed in the big guys then as I am now.

If any of our O-linemen read this, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Advice I'd give you is to work on being quicker off the snap. You should aim for hitting the D-line while they are still in their stance. Do that and you own them, no matter how much they bench, squat, or weigh. Get Ryan in the groove of calling plays on something other than 1 to help you out. If the D-line anticipates a play on 1 and you always run plays on 1, then they've taken away your 2nd biggest advantage. At least they still don't know yet where the ball is going though. Also, gotta hold 'em up for a little bit on a screen pass. I always counted to 3 in my head.