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Final

[Senters_93]

Ridiculous last 4 minutes for the Dawgs. "2 interceptions" They have shot theirselves in the foot the whole year and I'm afraid it's going to cost them come playoff time!!

[Patriot1]

Congratulations to Boyd County

[64SUR]

Congratulations Boyd County

[OutlawJoseyWales]

Not surprised by this at all. LC isn’t ready.

[lcgrad2002]

Isn’t ready for what exactly?

[OutlawJoseyWales]

LC is simply too young and too inexperienced This was a game to have made a statement. Home field advantage, 4A team that’s in a rebuild/reboot mode after losing a large senior class. But a win against an 4A opponent nevertheless would have been a confidence booster. Some young talent….but simply not ready to take the next step. This is a disappointing loss for LC. No ifs, ands or buts.

[Senters_93]

Not surprised by this at all.  LC isn’t ready.

I couldn't agree more. I said at the beginning of the year this team will be great but in a year or 2. There offense is really causing some issues with the mistakes

[16BBall Fan]

Really surprised by this one.

[SmashMouth17]

Isn’t ready for what exactly?

Might not even be ready for Knox Central next week in 1st round playoffs I know their going to have stop a solid rb.

[Hawks101]

Is LC running shotgun now or still under center

[Senters_93]

Is LC running shotgun now or still under center

Shotgun. But it doesn't work if lc can't complete passes

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Isn’t ready for what exactly?

Might not even be ready for Knox Central next week in 1st round playoffs I know their going to have stop a solid rb.

Lc has no problem with run defense.  They are ranked 2nd for holding teams to a low score. There offense is the one that has made some mistakes. It'll come with the maturity tho

[pjdoug]

way to go Boyd County.

[Harry Dawg]

LC defense still hasn't given up more than 14 in a game. Boyd had a safety and a pick 6 tonight. Once again, LC's offense moved the ball well most of the night, but continued to make costly mistakes (4 turnovers and a safety, I think). They got bit by the injury bug also. Looks like they might limp into the playoffs with some key players out or hobbled for the second straight year.

No doubt LC has some talent, but I think they're a couple years away from (maybe) being good. The sophomore and junior classes are small and not super talented. They lose alot up front and don't have a ton of talented linemen in the pipeline. They've got some skill to be excited about in 8th and 9th grade, but they've got a ton of work to do if they want to move beyond playing Belfry close for the district crown.

[Wildcat45]

Is LC running shotgun now or still under center

I caught some on NFHS.  I don’t think they even practice under center.  They had 4th and 2-3 inches at one point and still ran shotgun.  The play resulted in a 2 yard loss and turnover.  They’re not bad, but made some very questionable decisions.  Boyd got their safety on a play that LC decided to run an option on what looked like their own 2-3 yard line.  Then, later in the game, when LC took the lead, they scored a TD to make the score 13-9 pending PAT.  For some unknown reason, they kicked the PAT rather than go for 2.  I understand not chasing points early in the game, but this was a low scoring game in its 4th quarter.  You’ve got to know to go for 2 in that situation.  One last thing about LC, it doesn’t look like they practice 2 minute drill at all.  They seemed to be just throwing up prayers while they still had time to make a quick drive to the end-zone.  They only had like 40 yards to go with momentum and threw the pick 6 after a couple of tries pushing the ball down the field.  It just seemed like they were guessing rather than having an actual plan. 

As for Boyd, I felt they coached too conservative.  LC did a decent job of containing the QB at times, so give them some credit.  However, when the score was 9-7 for a while, it didn’t seem like there was any type of urgency to put another score on the board.  I would have liked to see them be more aggressive.  It worked out for them, but if the Lawrence QB gets in the end-zone on the long run where he came up about 6 inches short, it might have been different.  A few plays later LC fumbled (Another opportunity to try to go under center, but they didn’t).  They didn’t fumble the snap from what I could tell, but there are a lot less that can go wrong if you learn to QB sneak.

One last thing, what is with the Lawrence NFHS feed?  The scoreboard didn’t work at all.  There was no need to even have the graphic on there.  Also, It would be much better if they had someone manning a camera rather than the automatic one they were using.  Also, that field looks awesome!

[AADKINS]

The option under center needs to be in game plan.
Also 2 starters went down with a couple already on side line.
Hope these are not season ending.

[Senters_93]

What lc needs is someone to jerk a knot in there asses when they get outta line. Obviously the pass game isn't 110% right now. Coaching needs a new gameplan

[dbcooper]

Offensive play calling is, to put it kindly, puzzling.
The scheme doesn’t match the personnel and the decisions don’t match the situations. If the offensive approach were different, it’s arguable they would be 8-1 going into the final game, perhaps even 9-0.
As is, they are a total question mark for the games week to week.
Too bad. Talented kids, stout D, passionate fans, supportive community, and strong feeder program.

[Harry Dawg]

Offensive play calling is, to put it kindly, puzzling.
The scheme doesn’t match the personnel and the decisions don’t match the situations. If the offensive approach were different, it’s arguable they would be 8-1 going into the final game, perhaps even 9-0.
As is, they are a total question mark for the games week to week.
Too bad. Talented kids, stout D, passionate fans, supportive community, and strong feeder program.

I agree with most of this.  That said, I think the old offensive scheme needed to go if LC is going to take a step forward.  I think we're seeing growing pains from a 180 degree shift in offensive philosophy.  The OC has never coached or called plays at the varsity level.  There's going to be a learning curve.  I think the change in philosophy will pay dividends in the future, but it's certainly been frustrating at times this year.

[Senters_93]

Offensive play calling is, to put it kindly, puzzling.
The scheme doesn’t match the personnel and the decisions don’t match the situations. If the offensive approach were different, it’s arguable they would be 8-1 going into the final game, perhaps even 9-0.
As is, they are a total question mark for the games week to week.
Too bad. Talented kids, stout D, passionate fans, supportive community, and strong feeder program.

I agree with most of this.  That said, I think the old offensive scheme needed to go if LC is going to take a step forward.  I think we're seeing growing pains from a 180 degree shift in offensive philosophy.  The OC has never coached or called plays at the varsity level.  There's going to be a learning curve.  I think the change in philosophy will pay dividends in the future, but it's certainly been frustrating at times this year.

First off let me say it was a great game, i made a facebook comment right bwfore the game that stated boyd county has plated some hard teams this year and that is going to help them.(it got shot down tho) 
I Can see where your coming from. The O play calling is iffy at times. It's like when they get in a tight spot the OC don't know what to call to bring them back out of it!! "This isn't middle school, you have some opponents that are like grown men out on the field!  If they can complete just 60% of passes they can win some games!! The defense plays outstanding football.. the offense just can't capitalize whenever the defense gives them chance after chance. It comes down to the offensive line too. We have some dudes up front but they got outmatched this game and the shelby valley game. Crum and McDavid not having any holes to hit was a major issue

[Glory_Days]

Is LC running shotgun now or still under center

I caught some on NFHS.  I don’t think they even practice under center.  They had 4th and 2-3 inches at one point and still ran shotgun.  The play resulted in a 2 yard loss and turnover.  They’re not bad, but made some very questionable decisions.  Boyd got their safety on a play that LC decided to run an option on what looked like their own 2-3 yard line.  Then, later in the game, when LC took the lead, they scored a TD to make the score 13-9 pending PAT.  For some unknown reason, they kicked the PAT rather than go for 2.  I understand not chasing points early in the game, but this was a low scoring game in its 4th quarter.  You’ve got to know to go for 2 in that situation.  One last thing about LC, it doesn’t look like they practice 2 minute drill at all.  They seemed to be just throwing up prayers while they still had time to make a quick drive to the end-zone.  They only had like 40 yards to go with momentum and threw the pick 6 after a couple of tries pushing the ball down the field.  It just seemed like they were guessing rather than having an actual plan. 

As for Boyd, I felt they coached too conservative.  LC did a decent job of containing the QB at times, so give them some credit.  However, when the score was 9-7 for a while, it didn’t seem like there was any type of urgency to put another score on the board.  I would have liked to see them be more aggressive.  It worked out for them, but if the Lawrence QB gets in the end-zone on the long run where he came up about 6 inches short, it might have been different.  A few plays later LC fumbled (Another opportunity to try to go under center, but they didn’t).  They didn’t fumble the snap from what I could tell, but there are a lot less that can go wrong if you learn to QB sneak.

One last thing, what is with the Lawrence NFHS feed?  The scoreboard didn’t work at all.  There was no need to even have the graphic on there.  Also, It would be much better if they had someone manning a camera rather than the automatic one they were using.  Also, that field looks awesome!

Great comments, you hit every point right on the mark! Especially LC not going for 2, no difference between 14-9 and 13-9 at that point.

[lcgrad2002]

They actually did practice under center during the week, as for not running it in the game I’m not sure. They do practice 2 minute drill as well, the results were because of the decision making by the quarterback. There were plays to be made but the qb struggled to make the throws. One INT was on him for not making an easy throw on a screen which resulted in the pick six. The other was due to a pulling lineman not getting a block, that resulted in an early throw and to the leading receiver on the team so I get what he was doing. He trusted the freshman to make a play but it was Holbrook who made the pick for Boyd.
As for the scoreboard for NFHS, the guy who broadcasts doesn’t use a computer so he doesn’t update the scoreboard, he only broadcasts the game.

[Harry Dawg]

They actually did practice under center during the week, as for not running it in the game I’m not sure. They do practice 2 minute drill as well, the results were because of the decision making by the quarterback. There were plays to be made but the qb struggled to make the throws. One INT was on him for not making an easy throw on a screen which resulted in the pick six. The other was due to a pulling lineman not getting a block, that resulted in an early throw and to the leading receiver on the team so I get what he was doing. He trusted the freshman to make a play but it was Holbrook who made the pick for Boyd.
As for the scoreboard for NFHS, the guy who broadcasts doesn’t use a computer so he doesn’t update the scoreboard, he only broadcasts the game.

Good points here as well.  Coaches look like geniuses when the kids make plays.  I hear a lot of fans in the stands complaining about the playcalling, but most of the time it's an execution problem, not a play call problem.   

Fact of the matter is, LC is a decent team.  Not good, not bad, just decent.  We knew that going in, but with the new offense, new turf, and an influx of talent coming off a MS state championship alot of folks bought into the hype.  Shelby Valley was a bad loss, but otherwise they're about where they ought to be.

[Old School 18]

Kinda suprised. But good win for Boyd county. I watched them at the beginning of the year against Bell County and came away with the impression that there Run defense was horrible not knowing what a menace daniel thomas was gonna be for opposing defenses at the time. At the same time i was very impressed with there offense putting up 40 something on Bell and turning the ball over multiple times past the 50 yard line while doing so.

[lcgrad2002]

And Lawrence had success running on them. In my opinion, from what I saw, it was execution. Boyd executed better offensively and made the plays when they needed to and Lawrence County did not. Both teams played hard, defenses were solid outside of a few plays.

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Also, the Bulldogs turned it over four times, one fumble and three interceptions. You take those away and this is a completely different game but Boyd made the plays so all the credit goes to them. They are well coached and play hard.

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Rhett Holbrook was on for BC too, he completed 10/13 for 182 yards and 1 TD, that’s 77% and he also ran for 37 yards, but that was on 17 rushes.

If you would have told me after the game that LC had sacked Rhett 6 times, I would have told you that the Bulldogs won big but that wasn’t the case. Hats off to BC!

[Upnorth]

They actually did practice under center during the week, as for not running it in the game I’m not sure. They do practice 2 minute drill as well, the results were because of the decision making by the quarterback. There were plays to be made but the qb struggled to make the throws. One INT was on him for not making an easy throw on a screen which resulted in the pick six. The other was due to a pulling lineman not getting a block, that resulted in an early throw and to the leading receiver on the team so I get what he was doing. He trusted the freshman to make a play but it was Holbrook who made the pick for Boyd.
As for the scoreboard for NFHS, the guy who broadcasts doesn’t use a computer so he doesn’t update the scoreboard, he only broadcasts the game.

Good points here as well.  Coaches look like geniuses when the kids make plays.  I hear a lot of fans in the stands complaining about the playcalling, but most of the time it's an execution problem, not a play call problem.   

Fact of the matter is, LC is a decent team.  Not good, not bad, just decent.  We knew that going in, but with the new offense, new turf, and an influx of talent coming off a MS state championship alot of folks bought into the hype.  Shelby Valley was a bad loss, but otherwise they're about where they ought to be.

This loss and the loss to shelby valley tell me LC is average to below average. Boyd county is not a good team but a bigger school. I think LC is putting too much on a MS state championship.  That doesn’t always carry over. I would love to see LC be back to the level they were in the 90s but right now their not there.

[lcgrad2002]

As a Bulldog fan, I agree that we do put a lot on that MS state title because it was the first ever and you are right, that doesn’t always mean success at the high school level. I wouldn’t say they are below average by any means, they are a work in progress. Once the offense gets going then they will be a tough out.

[dbcooper]

I don’t think anyone expected middle school kids to come up and go 10-0 and steamroll to a state title, so there’s that.
I also think they’re better than average this season and that’s whether they win next Friday or not.
Kids do have to execute, that’s indisputable. But to lay their 3 losses on execution is throwing them under the bus without reason.
It is a coach’s job to put kids in position to win games, to improve their skill and execution over a season, and have a plan in place that the kids can digest and pull off against all but overwhelming opposing talent.
That’s not happening on offense for LC.
But in fairness, it is the offensive guys’ first varsity season with only some of the best coaches in KY history to compete against (Belfry, for example). So all told, the season has been fruitful no matter what they do in the playoffs.
The three losses have been tough to watch, but a process usually is painful if it produces anything

[Upnorth]

They lost to a Boyd Co that will end their season 5-5. Their best win would probably be Perry co who is 5-4. I’m not sure they have beat another team with a winning record. To me that makes them below average. But they have loads of talent and potential. I do expect them to beat Mason.

[dbcooper]

Fair enough. If you expected more going into the season starting so many freshmen and first year contributors, then I guess you would be disappointed.
The only loss so far that really disappointed me was Valley. Should’ve beaten the brakes off of them.
Otherwise, they’re about what I thought they’d be - only better defensively.
That said, go Dawgs! Beat Mason!