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Kentucky Wildcats 2023 Tourney Thread
#1
Let's talk about the Wildcats as they soon begin SEC , and then, NCAA tourney play.

What player(s) do you think is key to a successful postseason run?

Do you think they will advance to the chmpionship of the SEC tourney or see a premature exit?

Wht seed do you think they will land in the Big Dance?



Remember this lady?  She's a big college BB fan. She predicts the Cats will win the NCAA title.

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(02-28-2023, 12:24 AM)Old School Hound Wrote: Let's talk about the Wildcats as they soon begin SEC , and then, NCAA tourney play.

What player(s) do you think is key to a successful postseason run?

Do you think they will advance to the chmpionship of the SEC tourney or see a premature exit?

Wht seed do you think they will land in the Big Dance?



Remember this lady?  She's a big college BB fan. She predicts the Cats will win the NCAA title.

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If you think Sis J is off her rocker with her prediction, consider that she's 23 years older than the POTUS and 33 years older than our Granny Bear.
#2
I love Sister Jean, and she's 103, almost 33 years older than I. Our birthdays are within a week of each other.
#3
I think Cason Wallace is absolutely key to this team moving forward. When he's dishing and driving and taking care of the ball, this team is super efficient on offense. We saw what a struggle it was when Wheeler was trying (unsuccessfully) to direct this team. As Cason goes, so go the Cats... hopefully to the FF.
#4
If Cal doesn't pull Wallace and Reeves, we might have a chance at the Sweet Sixteen. I don't expect to go any farther than that. Hope I'm wrong.
#5
I've seen a couple of bracketology sites that have us projectedc as high as a #5 seed. One of the KSR guys was even throwing out the possibility of a #4. I think that is unlikely. I see us landing on the 6-7 seed line with an outside shot of #5 if we win out in the regular season and SEC tourney.
#6
Bye bye 4 or 5 seed. Cats aren't very good when Wallace isn't running the offense and Reeves can't hit a shot. Unfortunately, a loss to Arkansas and poor SEC tourney showing probably puts them back on the 8/9 seed line and a potential early exit.
#7
Cats = no tourney.
#8
(03-01-2023, 11:21 PM)plantmanky Wrote: Cats = no tourney.


You're weird.

Cats will likely be on the  5/6 seed line with at least one win in Nashville.

UK Wildcats with at least 37 points in a game in March:

- Antonio Reeves

- De’Aaron Fox

- Tayshaun Prince

- Melvin Turpin

- Jack Givens

- Dan Issel

- Cliff Hagan

- Bill Spivey

- Alex Groza
#9
How do you guys and gals think the Cats will fare in the SEC tourney? I could see them advancing to the championship game on Sunday or I could see them falling to Vandy tonight. Never know which box of chocolates you're gonna get with these bunch of Cats. What do say, Granny , Hoot, Jet , VH ? How many wins do the Cats get this weekend... 0 , 1, 2, or 3?
#10
Not to change the subject. But saw something this morning that made me think of this.
I saw a uk health care pic of the uk teams in 96,97,98
Showed every guy on all 3 teams and I knew them all the second I saw them.
If I saw a picture of the uk teams the last 3 years I would bet I wouldn’t know half of them.
#11
(03-10-2023, 10:20 AM)14th region fanman Wrote: Not to change the subject. But saw something this morning that made me think of this.
I saw a uk health care pic of the uk teams in 96,97,98
Showed every guy on all 3 teams and I knew them all the second I saw them.
If I saw a picture of the uk teams the last 3 years I would bet I wouldn’t know half of them.
That's interesting.  Do you think that's more due  to the fact that there is a greater flux of players moving in and out after one year than they were back then  or that you aren't as engaged in the games as you were a quarter century ago? I would probably recognize more from those '96-98 teams,too .
#12
I don’t really know
I know there was a time I would never miss a uk game no matter what
And now i don’t watch a lot of them.
And I’m a huge uk fan.

I just really enjoyed those teams in the the 90’s.
Especially Pitino’s first couple of teams.
#13
(03-10-2023, 03:43 PM)14th region fanman Wrote: I don’t really know
I know there was a time I would never miss a uk game no matter what
And now i don’t watch a lot of them.
And I’m a huge uk fan.

I just really enjoyed those teams in the the 90’s.
Especially Pitino’s first couple of teams.

I agree with all of your points. My dad is the same way. Now, I have to remind him that they are even playing. Do you find that the losses don't affect you as much as they used to? I love UK aand I am still a big fan but I can now shake off a loss very quickly, whereas back 25 or 30 years ago, a loss would haunt me for days or even weeks.

Let me say this. I love championships and I hope UK wins another one soon. However, for me, the journey each UK team takes me on is as important, or more important, than the end of season result. I will say I have had quite a bit of fun watching the games this season. There have been some miserable moments, for sure(SC loss at home was totally unacceptable) , but this team's resurrection from the near-dead after SC and then, after GA, has been a lot of fun. I think Cal struggled to get this team's mind where it needed to be the for the first couple of months but I think he has done a very admirable job the last six or eight weeks. Their resurgence has been surprising and pretty entertaining, at times.  I wouldn't be surprised to see them advance to the FF and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them bow out after the first game.

Without losses to SC, UGA, and Vandy at home and they would probably be playing this weekend for a #3 or #4 seed. I think they are probably on the 6/7 line right now but have an outside shot at a 5 seed if everything falls in place over the weekend. A # 6  seed is probably the best bet. That would allow them to avoid the #1 and #2 seeds for the first two games of the tourney. This UK team has the talent to beat anyone in the country on a given night but could also lose to anyone, at any time.  Overall, it's been frustrating at times but pretty enjoyable. Sweeping Tennessee and Florida and bending Bruce Pearl over has been kinda fun.  GO CATS!!!
#14
Oh yea, when they use to lose. It would ruin my whole night. Now it doesn’t even bother me.
I guess that was my point this morning, I was really young when the 90’s teams were playing and I cared and now I just don’t care very much.
Didn’t know if others felt the same way.
#15
(03-10-2023, 05:11 PM)14th region fanman Wrote: Oh yea, when they use to lose. It would ruin my whole night. Now it doesn’t even bother me.
I guess that was my point this morning, I was really young when the 90’s teams were playing and I cared and now I just don’t care very much.
Didn’t know if others felt the same way.


I think a lot of people feel the way you do. I think the one and done thing has had a lot to do with it. Back when I was young, the players were around for four years and you got to really know them over that period of time. Now, you barely have time to get to know a player before he moves on.  Just a thought.
#16
Coach Calipari simply has to start making his free throws!

Vandy wanted this one more... Bottomline.
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#17
Three losses to Vandy in four months(1 FB & 2BB) , and all were essentially home court/field advantages.


Vandy not only owns KY in SAT scores but athletics, too, apparently. I think if we practice really hard we can get to where we beat Vandy in FB and BB again.
#18
This team is SOS ---Sybil on Steroids.
While I like how this team has responded when its back is to the proverbial wall, they don't seem to act like there is any sense of urgency, even now. It's a weird, weird team. They are truly capable of beating anyone and just as capable of losing to anyone. With their penchant for inconsistency, I'm not confident they can string together four straight wins, not to mention six wins to win it all.

Cal mentioned in post-game presser that Jacob Toppin did not practice last week. Jack Pilgrim then asked Toppin about his "ailment"? Besides not knowing what the word "ailment" meant(Vandy players would have handled that one with ease), Jacob acted like he didn't know what in the hell Pilgrim was referring to about being hurt and not practicing. Did he practice or did he not? Who knows? Is Wheeler done or is he not? Who knows? They could have used him to stop the guard penetration of Vandy. Just weird, weird stuff.

One thing is clear. Vandy REALLY wanted this game. They wanted it WAY more than the UK players. I'm not saying that the KY kids didn't want to win because I think they did but Vandy wanted it a lot more. They played with a real sense of urgency. I like their team . They've gone from 9-12 to now 19-13 and one of the hottest teams in the country. They are also doing it without their best player, their big 7-footer , Liam Robbins.

Credit goes to Stackhouse. His guys have really bought in. They lost by 57 points to Alabama(that's right ---57 !!! ) and now they've beaten Kentucky twice in a little over a week before a mass of blue & white clad Cat fans. Congrats to the Commodores. Would love to see them win the SEC Tourney. Go 'Dores!!!
#19
This Kentucky team has a near zero chance of winning an NCAA championship this season. It has been a long time since the SEC was as weak in basketball as it was this season. A third place regular season finish, no SEC tournament wins, and a head coach well past his prime do not bode well for the Cats' NCAA tournament chances. I wish that UK could afford to fire Calipari.
#20
(03-11-2023, 08:11 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: This Kentucky team has a near zero chance of winning an NCAA championship this season. It has been a long time since the SEC was as weak in basketball as it was this season. A third place regular season finish, no SEC tournament wins, and a head coach well past his prime do not bode well for the Cats' NCAA tournament chances. I wish that UK could afford to fire Calipari.


If UK fired him at the end of this  season,  he would be owed  39,750,000 + .75 N  , where N is the amount of his salary from the time of his firing until 6/29/23 . In other words, he would be owed about 42MM . There are slightly more than 3.4 million adults(over 18) living in Kentucky.  It would cost each KY citizen over 18 about $12.31 to buyout Cal's contract when their season comes to an end  a week to three weeks from now. 

As a big tax and spend progressive-minded gent, let me propose thie following. The KY legislature could pass a "Cal Buyout Tax"  to help the UK pay Cal.  Jet, Granny , VH  and other BGR Kentuckians, would you be willing to shell out $12  to help buy Cal out of Lexington ?
#21
I’ll pay $1212, $12 for me and $1200 for 100 people who think Cal is doing a great job and are happy with the state of the program.

But, since I’m a conservative and don’t give away other people’s money without a fight, I would offer him half and if he refused I would pass a resolution making him assistant equipment manager and put him on the far end of the bench.
#22
Then I would fire everyone involved in awarding the contract in the first place.
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(03-11-2023, 01:54 PM)jetpilot Wrote: I’ll pay $1212, $12 for me and $1200 for 100 people who think Cal is doing a great job and are happy with the state of the program.

But, since I’m a conservative and don’t give away other people’s money without a fight, I would offer him half and if he refused I would pass a resolution making him assistant equipment manager and put him on the far end of the bench.


LOL  Did you know Cal can quit as coach after next season and still make money at UK?

There is a clause in Cal's contract allowing him to opt-out after 2023-24  and become a "special assistant" to the AD.  How much would he make in his "SA" role?   A cool $950,000 a year.  That "special Assistant gig would pay more than 7 times the average salary of  a professor at UK  and about 14 times the average salary of UK employees.  Who all at UK had to sign Cal's contract to enforce it?  Sounds like a bunch of big tax and spenders in leadership at UK.  lol



Cal is the highest paid state employee in the USA .


In addition to his pay, Cal's contrct has the following perks:

In addition to his pay, Calipari is entitled to the following, per his contract:

**Two “late model, quality automobiles” for his official and personal use
**20 lower-level tickets to all home and away men’s basketball games
**tickets to all home football games
**10% university contribution to his retirement account
**20 paid vacation days per year
**University-paid membership to a local golf or country club

Damn liberals!!!
#24
(03-11-2023, 09:17 AM)Old School Hound Wrote:
(03-11-2023, 08:11 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: This Kentucky team has a near zero chance of winning an NCAA championship this season. It has been a long time since the SEC was as weak in basketball as it was this season. A third place regular season finish, no SEC tournament wins, and a head coach well past his prime do not bode well for the Cats' NCAA tournament chances. I wish that UK could afford to fire Calipari.


If UK fired him at the end of this  season,  he would be owed  39,750,000 + .75 N  , where N is the amount of his salary from the time of his firing until 6/29/23 . In other words, he would be owed about 42MM . There are slightly more than 3.4 million adults(over 18) living in Kentucky.  It would cost each KY citizen over 18 about $12.31 to buyout Cal's contract when their season comes to an end  a week to three weeks from now. 

As a big tax and spend progressive-minded gent, let me propose thie following. The KY legislature could pass a "Cal Buyout Tax"  to help the UK pay Cal.  Jet, Granny , VH  and other BGR Kentuckians, would you be willing to shell out $12  to help buy  Cal out of Lexington ?
I understand that, OSH. It is why I voted not to fire Coach Cal in another thread. My vote was not an endorsement of the overpaid recruiter. He would probably do well coaching high school basketball and poaching from other teams' rosters but because of the heavy long-term investment that Kentucky's taxpayers made in Calipari, IMO, he is the worst hire the University has ever made.

As I said, I am not in favor of firing Coach Cal. Fortunately, I have not paid one cent of Calipari's salary and don't plan to pay anything to fire him.
#25
Note below --- He gets 20 lower-level tickets for BB and 8 tickets fot FB.

In addition to his pay, Calipari is entitled to the following, per his contract:
  • Two “late model, quality automobiles” for his official and personal use

  • 20 lower-level tickets to all home and away men’s basketball games

  • 8 tickets to all home football games

  • 10% university contribution to his retirement account

  • 20 paid vacation days per year

  • University-paid membership to a local golf or country club
#26
This is what always happens to other people’s money.
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#27
I don't blame our HOF coach or signing that contract. If someone's gonna give you that kind of loot... TAKE IT!!! You only live once!!!
#28
^^^You are the only person who cares about the HOF thing. Everybody beating  Cal the last 4 years certainly doesn’t care. Especially the St. Peter’s coach who was probably making $14 an hour lol. That and $5 won’t get you a crappy Starbucks coffee.

You are so easy to read OSH. The only reason you take up for Cal is because he’s a liberal. If he were a Republican you would be calling for him to be fired, and jailed, and all of his assets confiscated. And everybody on here knows it.
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(03-11-2023, 04:18 PM)jetpilot Wrote: ^^^You are the only person who cares about the HOF thing. Everybody beating  Cal the last 4 years certainly doesn’t care. Especially the St. Peter’s coach who was probably making $14 an hour lol. That and $5 won’t get you a crappy Starbucks coffee.

You are so easy to read OSH. The only reason you take up for Cal is because he’s a liberal. If he were a Republican you would be calling for him to be fired, and jailed, and all of his assets confiscated. And everybody on here knows it.
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#30
Crazed liberal on tilt alert!!!
Back to name calling and false labels his leaders assigned to his brain, which is no longer able to think on its own.

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