[Old School Hound]

The refs should have gotten the suspension . While they were huddled up and laughing with some South Laurel parents and fans ,and blocked from view of the players, it seems they all decided to conspire to get South Laurel a bunch freebie free throws before the game ever begun. From all the laughing going on by South officials at courtside, just prior to the T's being assessed, the whole thing seems very suspect and planned.

Too bad that the 50th District Tournament(in which Corbin will be the #1 seed) will be held at that Den of Thieves in South London.

[jetpilot]

^^^How could the refs conspire for Corbin to break the rules?

[Warriorhawk17]

Bottom line:
It's the rule
Coaches & players know the rule

[Old School Hound]

Bottom line:
It's the rule
Coaches & players know the rule

What's the rule?   If the refs are huddled up behind some cheerleaders and parents and a player dunks is it a foul ? Where do the refs have to be positioned in order for technicals to be called and the coach ejected and suspended for three additional games?  Are coaches expected to go looking for the refs in every nook and cranny of the gym? Why can't refs blow their whistles to announce their arrival?  Remember, dunking as allowed during warmups. When does it become a foul?  The rule should be changed to either no dunking at all or dunking allowed at all times .

[UKisN1]

Everybody knows at the 15th minute mark to shut it down. It is all on the players and coaches to stop it.

[MrBasketball78]

This has really become some sort of unhealthy obsession for some. The conspiratorial talk is up there with Elvis being alive and hidden out by the government. Just take some responsibility and move on. It’s high school basketball and while it’s fun to watch and follow and we all take pride in our schools, it’s not life and death and there’s a zero percent chance there was a premeditated attack on Corbin.

[Old School Hound]

This has really become some sort of unhealthy obsession for some.  The conspiratorial talk is up there with Elvis being alive and hidden out by the government.  Just take some responsibility and move on.  It’s high school basketball and while it’s fun to watch and follow and we all take pride in our schools, it’s not life and death and there’s a zero percent chance there was a premeditated attack on Corbin.

Pietrowski is pretty good, for those who don't know. Coach for over 20 years.  Hard to imagine he would stand there watching his kids slam 'em down with the refs in plain sight. In fact, I know he wouldn't.  I think there are some regions where the officials blow their whistles to signal their arrival.

[kai]

Bottom line:
It's the rule
Coaches & players know the rule

What's the rule?   If the refs are huddled up behind some cheerleaders and parents and a player dunks is it a foul ? Where do the refs have to be positioned in order for technicals to be called and the coach ejected and suspended for three additional games?  Are coaches expected to go looking for the refs in every nook and cranny  of the gym? Why can't refs blow their whistles to announce their arrival?  Remember, dunking as allowed during warmups. When does it become a foul?  The rule should be changed to either no dunking at all or dunking allowed at all times .

The rule is there is no dunking during warmups.   This is the rule it has nothing to do with when officials come on to the floor.  So the rule is simply ignored until officials coming on the floor, sort of like speeding 99% of us do it until we see and officer.

[jamesdeane]

Bottom line:
It's the rule
Coaches & players know the rule

What's the rule?   If the refs are huddled up behind some cheerleaders and parents and a player dunks is it a foul ? Where do the refs have to be positioned in order for technicals to be called and the coach ejected and suspended for three additional games?  Are coaches expected to go looking for the refs in every nook and cranny  of the gym? Why can't refs blow their whistles to announce their arrival?  Remember, dunking as allowed during warmups. When does it become a foul?  The rule should be changed to either no dunking at all or dunking allowed at all times .

The rule is there is no dunking during warmups.   This is the rule it has nothing to do with when officials come on to the floor.  So the rule is simply ignored until officials coming on the floor, sort of like speeding 99% of us do it until we see and officer.

This is the simplest and best explanation.

[fridaynightfights]

This has really become some sort of unhealthy obsession for some.  The conspiratorial talk is up there with Elvis being alive and hidden out by the government.  Just take some responsibility and move on.  It’s high school basketball and while it’s fun to watch and follow and we all take pride in our schools, it’s not life and death and there’s a zero percent chance there was a premeditated attack on Corbin.

Pietrowski is pretty good, for those who don't know. Coach for over 20 years.  Hard to imagine he would stand there watching his kids slam 'em down with the refs in plain sight. In fact, I know he wouldn't.  I think there are some regions where the officials blow their whistles to signal their arrival.

He also made sure Williamsburg started a district championship game with a technical for doing it a few years back, it goes both ways. It just is what it is.

[Granny Bear]

This has really become some sort of unhealthy obsession for some.  The conspiratorial talk is up there with Elvis being alive and hidden out by the government.  Just take some responsibility and move on.  It’s high school basketball and while it’s fun to watch and follow and we all take pride in our schools, it’s not life and death and there’s a zero percent chance there was a premeditated attack on Corbin.

Pietrowski is pretty good, for those who don't know. Coach for over 20 years.  Hard to imagine he would stand there watching his kids slam 'em down with the refs in plain sight. In fact, I know he wouldn't.  I think there are some regions where the officials blow their whistles to signal their arrival.

Then he should know better with 20 years experience.
I've tried to find the rule so I could quote it here, but unless I pay for a downloadable pdf, I can't find it.  And I'm not paying for it either.  I've asked about half dozen folks that are officials about this rule. 4 of them say it's against the rules to dunk during warm ups, and if the officials catch them, they call a technical.  It's clear cut.  Also, there is NO rule about the officials announcing their arrival with a whistle blow!!  (really?)

Pietrowski as head coach allowed this to happen.  Period.  He suffered appropriate consequences.  I DO have to say that the consequences were pretty stiff but they were appropriate.

Stop whining about it.  It's over and done.  So until the rules change, I'm betting Corbin will not be dunking during warmups anymore.

[jetpilot]

^^^Exactly. Some people arrive at the conclusion to not break the rules (even if you don't agree with them) if it hurts your team, and others complain and arrive at every other conclusion except the logical one. LOL.

[Mountainparkway]

Sounds to me like a wrongfully attained technical bahahahah

[Old School Hound]

This has really become some sort of unhealthy obsession for some.  The conspiratorial talk is up there with Elvis being alive and hidden out by the government.  Just take some responsibility and move on.  It’s high school basketball and while it’s fun to watch and follow and we all take pride in our schools, it’s not life and death and there’s a zero percent chance there was a premeditated attack on Corbin.

Pietrowski is pretty good, for those who don't know. Coach for over 20 years.  Hard to imagine he would stand there watching his kids slam 'em down with the refs in plain sight. In fact, I know he wouldn't.  I think there are some regions where the officials blow their whistles to signal their arrival.

Then he should know better with 20 years experience.
I've tried to find the rule so I could quote it here, but unless I pay for a downloadable pdf, I can't find it.  And I'm not paying for it either.  I've asked about half dozen folks that are officials about this rule. 4 of them say it's against the rules to dunk during warm ups, and if the officials catch them, they call a technical.  It's clear cut.  Also, there is NO rule about the officials announcing their arrival with a whistle blow!!  (really?)

Pietrowski as head coach allowed this to happen.  Period.  He suffered appropriate consequences.  I DO have to say that the consequences were pretty stiff but they were appropriate.

Stop whining about it.  It's over and done.  So until the rules change, I'm betting Corbin will not be dunking during warmups anymore.

They've been dunking like crazy since that happened--- all over opponent's @sses !!!

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As for the whining, this topic has been one of the hot topics of conversation here in the Tri-County area for two weeks. The local sports editor wrote whiny editorial about it. I figured if it was okay "whine" on here about it. Btw, you will see dunking during warmups at most HS games.

[Granny Bear]

Oh, I read the editorial. It sounded like "how DARE any official to call a technical foul on Corbin!!!" I really thought perhaps YOU wrote it.

Dunk all you want. If it's during a game, it's legal. If it's during warmups, then nobody learned anything.......

You see looting at most riots anymore; still don't make it correct.

[i82much]

Here's my two cents and it's not even worth that....after spending over three decades in education including coaching (not basketball) and administration I can understand schools not wanting athletes to dunk during pregame. Most don't allow it during PE classes either. Excessive dunking and/or hanging on the rim can, over time, shorten the life of the equipment. Just like anything else there are varying levels of quality and in general, as others have stated, the quality of equipment has gotten better and immediate failure generally doesn't happen. But still, not all budgets allow for the best equipment. Maybe we leave it up to each school? Others will say that will just add to the confusion but I don't think so. Most coaches would understand and respect the rule if it's coming from the school system and not being mandated by the state. Respecting the schools property would not be dependent on whether an official is there or not. On a side note I kind of like to watch pre-game dunks but at times over the years I have seen it get out of hand, with even kids that can't dunk going up and hanging on the rim, guess they were just stretching.....

[Old School Hound]

Oh, I read the editorial.  It sounded like "how DARE any official to call a technical foul on Corbin!!!"  I really thought perhaps YOU wrote it.

Dunk all you want.  If it's during a game, it's legal.  If it's during warmups, then nobody learned anything.......

You see looting at most riots anymore; still don't make it correct.

No, I didn't write it.   I'm a better writer than Trevor.  lol

Throughout this thread, there was a plethora of interpretations as to what the rule actually was. Nobody seemed to really know for sure. Makes you wonder if the players and coaches even know.  Finally, someone posted that dunking in warmups is against the rules. The rule seems antiquated and dumb but ,if it's the rule,  refs need to enforce it ALL THE TIME ,  not just at South Laurel High School.

[pjdoug]

^^^Geeezzz just don't break the rules...you're not a victim all the time OSH even though that's what you're told by liberal TV...If the rules say don't dunk in warmups don't don't in warmups, don't break the rules and cry foul when the rules are enforced...it's not complicated good Lord, oh my bad you think we came from nothing...hope to see you in the music threads...

I might posterize you if I ever see you.

[Hound05]

Aren't coaches supposed to get a "T" if they come out of the box? how many times do you see that? hardly ever unless the ref is just mad or they are jawing, most of the time nothing is said. I think it was granny bear or someone who said that they pick and choose what rules they want to enforce. It is a stupid rule in my book, but if you're going to enforce one rule, enforce every rule! Corbin violated the rules, but that whole game was a dog and pony show from the get go. South could have played the Lakers and still came out on top. But Karma got them the next game.

[Walt Longmire]

This has really become some sort of unhealthy obsession for some.  The conspiratorial talk is up there with Elvis being alive and hidden out by the government.  Just take some responsibility and move on.  It’s high school basketball and while it’s fun to watch and follow and we all take pride in our schools, it’s not life and death and there’s a zero percent chance there was a premeditated attack on Corbin.

Pietrowski is pretty good, for those who don't know. Coach for over 20 years.  Hard to imagine he would stand there watching his kids slam 'em down with the refs in plain sight. In fact, I know he wouldn't.  I think there are some regions where the officials blow their whistles to signal their arrival.

If he's been coaching for 20 years, then he should know that the officials come out onto the court 15 minutes before the game.  They don't sneak out at 18 minutes, they don't wait until 12 minutes.  They come out at 15 minutes. It's the same now, as it was 37 years ago when I was in high school.  Just like the officials check the official score book 10 minutes before the game.  If you add a player after that it is also a technical.  These have been rules forever.  We didn't worry about watching for the refs.  At 16 minutes, all dunking stopped.  You know what?  We never got a technical.

[Old School Hound]

Aren't coaches supposed to get a "T" if they come out of the box? how many times do you see that? hardly ever unless the ref is just mad or they are jawing, most of the time nothing is said. I think it was granny bear or someone who said that they pick and choose what rules they want to enforce. It is a stupid rule in my book, but if you're going to enforce one rule, enforce every rule! Corbin violated the rules, but that whole game was a dog and pony show from the get go. South could have played the Lakers and still came out on top. But Karma got them the next game.

I knew it would be . They (South) b***hed the entire game at Corbin the week before when they got their @sses handed to them. I knew we were in for something "special" up at that Den of Thieves in South London, and boy was I right.

[Warriorhawk17]

It's the rule DA

[pjdoug]

Bottom line:
It's the rule
Coaches & players know the rule

We know schools never ever break rules

[pjdoug]

Bottom line:
It's the rule
Coaches & players know the rule

We know schools never ever break rules

[pjdoug]

This has really become some sort of unhealthy obsession for some.  The conspiratorial talk is up there with Elvis being alive and hidden out by the government.  Just take some responsibility and move on.  It’s high school basketball and while it’s fun to watch and follow and we all take pride in our schools, it’s not life and death and there’s a zero percent chance there was a premeditated attack on Corbin.

If you don't think Elvis lives you don't think a'tall.

[Old School Hound]

It's the rule DA

Yeah, and most teams disregard it and are seldom called on it. Either enforce it all the time or never.

[Walt Longmire]

It's the rule DA

Yeah, and most teams disregard it and are seldom called on it. Either enforce it all the time or never.

Just curious. How many of those teams are dumb enough to do it after the 15 minutes before game time?  You know, the point that officials always come out onto the court.  I would imagine a coach that has been a head coach for 20 years should know when the officials come out on the floor.

[plantmanky]

Should be an ejection of the player if done in pregame, no reason for it.

[Old School Hound]

Should be an ejection of the player if done in pregame, no reason for it.

I would be okay with this. But it simply isn't enforced, much like the coach out of the coaching box isn't enforced. What I don't like is picking and choosing rare instances where the rule IS enorced. Eiher get rid of the dumb, antiquated rule, or else, enforce it when it is violated EVERY.SINGLE.TIME.

[13th]

Should be an ejection of the player if done in pregame, no reason for it.

I would be okay with this. But it simply isn't enforced, much like the coach out of the coaching box isn't enforced. What I don't like is picking and choosing rare instances where the rule IS enorced. Eiher get rid of the dumb, antiquated rule, or else, enforce it when it is violated EVERY.SINGLE.TIME.

Man you're just flat out wrong on this - let it go.  Every player knows you can only dunk the first few minutes of warmups.  Most teams has a coach that keeps a look out for officials and lets the kids know to quit.  Its been this way for decades.  Corbin screwed up, it sucks Coach P got suspended for it, but everyone that plays and coaches knows the rule.